posted September 18, 2012 08:24 AM            

See: asc Libra - venus in 9H

Would it mean the effort towards the NN would have to be "doubled" ?

Does the sign where in the house that rules the chart also plays a part in this ?

posted September 18, 2012 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by flowerpower:
What is the house that rules your chart is also where your south node is ... ? it seems incoherent :-)

See: asc Libra - venus in 9H

Would it mean the effort towards the NN would have to be "doubled" ?

Does the sign where in the house that rules the chart also plays a part in this ?

(Sorry I did not have time to read the whole thread yet)

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No FP
The Chart Ruler is the planet which rules the sign on the ASC! So, I am a Libra ASC. my chart ruler is Venus. Do you see?

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posted September 18, 2012 10:59 PM            

I meant

What IF the house that rules your chart is also where your south node is ... ? it seems incoherent :-)

See: asc Libra - venus in 9H

Would it mean the effort towards the NN would have to be "doubled" ?

Does the sign where in the house that rules the chart also plays a part in this ?

posted September 20, 2012 09:04 PM            

Ruler of the 1st House in Houses

Ruler of the 1st house in the 1st house

woman with crownThe activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 1st house. Here, behavior, attitude and appearance serve themselves. The orientation to life is self-centered. You do things for your own satisfaction. Creating a persona is the first step to navigating through life. You are preoccupied with appearance and presence. Developing awareness helps you present a better image self-image. By being in tune with the image you project, you develop self-awareness. Lack of awareness of your behavior hinders your ability to get through life the way you want to. Your appearance affects your behavior. You express yourself through the way you look. You express yourself through clothing and makeup. You take on different personae to affect different mannerisms and behavior. You try on different personalities. Creating a persona helps or hinders your approach life. The image you project affects your ability to navigate through life. You create a mask of self-awareness. By developing self-awareness you get noticed. By becoming aware of your behavior and mannerisms you make a better first impression.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 2nd house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 2nd house. Life is oriented to discovering personal values and creating self-esteem. Your outer behavior derives from your experience of money, possessions and physical reality. Life is oriented toward obtaining physical security. Life is oriented toward addressing survival needs. You approach life by defining your survival needs. You gain a sense of self-awareness from the things that you own. Appearance is a source of security issues. The personality seeks expression through its values. The personality seeks expression through possessions. The personality seeks expression through a grounded, natural relationship with the body. You do what you do to ground yourself in the physical world. The way you look depends on your self-esteem. The way you look depends on how much money you have. Developing self-awareness helps develop self-esteem. Developing self-awareness helps you discover your personal values.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 3rd house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 3rd house. Life is oriented toward communicating, gathering information and daily interactions. You have an everyday persona. Your outer behavior affects the way you read write and speak. You outer behavior affects your sibling relationships and everyday interactions. You may seem like “the girl (or boy) next door.” You create a persona through writing, daily conversation, gossiping, teaching and daily activities. Your approach to life is directed toward daily interactions and communication. Your approach accommodates the everyday. You know your town like the back of your hand. Everyday conversation and gossip determine your behavior. Attitude can help or hinder your ability to communicate. Your attitude can make communicating easier or harder. Your behavior is determined by your siblings. Self-awareness helps your communication skills. You develop an image to help communicate certain information. Self-expression focuses on communicating through the spoken or written word. Your persona is defined by the way you communicate. Appearance is something to talk about. You gossip about the way people look. You present yourself as someone who has information to communicate. Developing self-awareness helps your ability to speak and think clearly. You create a persona to assimilate information. You look to your siblings to see what type of personae you should develop.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 4th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 4th house. You create a persona through family involvement, giving yourself enough private time, putting down roots, and by being involved in cultural or family traditions. Your outer behavior is directed toward your experience of relationships with actual family members or people who feel like family. Your outer behavior derives from your relationship to your country or cultural heritage. Your personality requires privacy to express itself. Your personality expresses itself best when you feel emotionally secure. Your approach is to behave as if you are interacting with family. Your attitude can make family life easier or harder. Your behavior is determined by your parents. Self-awareness helps you build a solid emotional foundation. Life is oriented toward privacy, emotional comfort and the known. Your self-expression is focused on making yourself, and other people, feel emotionally safe. You dress and style yourself for emotional security. Developing self-awareness helps family relationships. Creating a persona helps you navigate family interactions. You express your personality best when you are surrounded by family. You are geared toward creating a family of your own (an actual family, or collecting people who feel life family). Your view of life orients itself toward domesticity.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 5th house

Johnny Depp wearing a crownThe activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 5th house. You create a persona by being creative and giving yourself over to pleasurable activities. Your approach is oriented to having fun. Attitude to life forms from lighthearted self-expression. Your personality finds an outlet in being playful and entertaining. Your approach is to behave as if you are on stage. Self-awareness helps your self-expression. Your self-expression is focused on the arts. You use your appearance to entertain people. Creating a persona helps you navigate creative projects. You express your personality best when you are relaxing or taking risks. Your view of life orients itself toward the dramatic and romantic. Personal self-expression is paramount.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 6th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 6th house. Life is oriented toward self-analysis and body awareness. You have to adjust your attitude to find employment. You have to adjust your attitude to fit in with co-workers. You must adjust your persona to fit in at work. Your approach to life helps or hinders your ability to be healthy and meet your body’s needs. Your attitude develops from interactions with co-workers and employees. Your attitude develops from daily work activities. Developing self-awareness can improve your health. Developing self-awareness can improve your work performance. You create a persona through daily activities and habits. Attitude to life forms from everyday habits. Your personality finds expression through daily work. Your personality finds expression through interaction with animals. Your personality finds expression through body-consciousness. Self-awareness helps you create good daily habits. Your appearance depends on your health.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 7th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 7th house. Life is oriented toward partnership, cooperation, competition and mirroring. Your appearance is based on mirroring other people. Your appearance is based on competing with other people. You groom yourself to meet your partner’s wants. You adapt your personality to meet the needs of the other. Your appearance depends on your partner. Your behavior serves the needs of other people. Your behavior is to keep the peace. Outer behavior is cooperative and placating. Our approach is to act as if you are interacting with a client or marriage partner. Attitude develops interactions with significant people. Attitude develops from spouses and significant others. You bring your behaviors and attitudes to significant relationships. You bring your mask to your relationships. Developing self-awareness improves your significant relationships. Developing awareness helps you accept your shadow. Developing awareness helps you know what you have in common with the ‘enemy.’

Ruler of the 1st house in the 8th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 8th house. Life is oriented toward transformation, deep involvements with others and dealing with repressed emotions. Your personality transforms and regenerates. Your outer behavior derives from your experience of emotional intensity, sexual activities, death and intense interactions. Your personality expresses itself best when you are exploring the hidden and taboo. Your approach is to behave as if everything is a matter of life or death. Your attitude can make unconscious emotional issues harder or easier. Self-awareness helps you let go of emotional baggage. Self-awareness helps you discover hidden gifts and talents. Self-awareness helps you discover the hidden motivations of other people. Self-awareness helps you transform and regenerate. Life is oriented toward digging through the unknown. You dress and style yourself to transform. Creating a persona helps you navigate the taboo.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 9th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 9th house. Life is oriented toward expanding horizons. Your outer behavior derives from your experiences with people who have different cultural traditions, religious beliefs and life philosophies. Your outer behavior derives from your experiences of other countries. Your attitude derives from experiences of religion and mysticism. Your personality requires freedom to express itself. Your personality expresses itself best when you feel expansive and free. Your approach is to behave as if you are interacting with the divine. Your attitude can make relationships with foreign people and concepts easier or harder. Your behavior is determined by your beliefs. Self-awareness helps you build a personal belief system. Life is oriented toward exploration and the search for meaning. Your self-expression is focused on learning more about distant people, places and concepts. You dress and style yourself for adventure. Becoming aware of your behavior and mannerisms helps you while traveling. Developing self-awareness helps create opportunities for travel and exploration. Creating a persona helps you interact with foreign cultures. Creating a persona helps you navigate the mystical.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 10th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 10th house. You create a persona to interact with the outer world. Your outer behavior derives from your social standing, relationship with authority and reputation. Your outer behavior derives from your sense of parental approval and approval from authorities. Your outer behavior derives from your relationship with your parents. Your personality requires structure to express itself. Your personality expresses itself best when you are in an authoritative position. Your approach is to behave as if you are interacting with professionals. Your attitude can make professional life easier or harder. Self-awareness helps you succeed in the outside world. Life is oriented toward public and professional life. Your self-expression is focused on keeping up appearances and preserving your reputation. You dress and style yourself to appear professional and authoritative. Developing self-awareness helps your career objectives. Creating a persona helps you navigate the professional arena. You are geared toward creating a vocation for yourself.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 11th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 11th house. You create a persona through involvement with causes, and associations with people who have similar interests. Your outer behavior derives from your experiences with like-minded people. Your outer behavior derives from your relationships with friends and fans. Your personality requires that you share your interests. Your personality expresses itself best when you share your creativity with other people. Your approach is to behave as if you are interacting with friends. Your attitude can make friendships easier or harder. Your attitude can make achieving long term goals easier or harder. Your behavior is determined by your friends. Self-awareness helps you build friendships. Self-awareness helps you achieve long term goals. Life is oriented toward group interactions. Your self-expression is focused on making friends. You dress and style yourself to fit in with your group. Creating a persona helps you navigate among people with the same interests. You express your personality best when you are surrounded by people with similar interests, yet, who give you the freedom to be who you are. You want to create group in which you can share your creative vision.

Ruler of the 1st house in the 12th house

The activities of the 1st house serve the agenda of the 12th house. You create a persona based on your dreams, fears and secrets. Your outer behavior derives from your experiences of merging with something greater than yourself. Your personality requires solitude to express itself. Your personality expresses itself best when you merge with the greater whole. Your personality expresses itself best when you dream, sleep, meditate, involve yourself in charity and spend time alone. Your approach is to behave as if you are an escape artist. Your approach is to behave as if you are locked in your own private cell. Your approach is to behave as if you carry a secret. Your attitude can make dealing with secrets and escapist tendencies easier or harder. Self-awareness helps you come to terms with fears and family secrets. Self-awareness helps you embrace solitude. Life is oriented toward helping those in need. Your self-expression is focused on helping people acknowledge fears in order to bring them to light. You dress to hide yourself or your fears. Creating a persona helps you navigate secluded places. You express your personality best when you are alone

posted September 20, 2012 09:10 PM            

Yes, I 9th house themes are part of my dreams, mainly the part about being in contact with foreign cultures :-) still, doesnt seem easy to me - it is a bit confusing, as the north node is in sagittarius I mean, separating what is the "past" and what is that I have to develop in myself.

posted September 22, 2012 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by flowerpower:
Hi Ami Anne,

I meant

What IF the house that rules your chart is also where your south node is ... ? it seems incoherent :-)

See: asc Libra - venus in 9H

Would it mean the effort towards the NN would have to be "doubled" ?

Does the sign where in the house that rules the chart also plays a part in this ?

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Awww I am too confused by the question lol
I can't put all those parts together, for some reason. Maybe, someone else can

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posted September 22, 2012 02:42 PM            

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posted September 22, 2012 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You are doing a wonderful job, DL

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im not doing any jobs lately but thanks XD

but this will change after tommorow...once you finish my test

posted September 23, 2012 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by RedIce:
Haha yes please, I finally figured out how to not let the link expire and I'm DYING to know what mine says. xD

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il read yours as soon as i wake up

but im off to bed

posted September 24, 2012 08:15 AM            

ruler of 1st house in 12- was childhood diffucult for you? were you noticed and treated well? do you belive you have a deeper connection to yourself and your spirituality than others? do you take spirituality and your emotional development more seriously then others?

do you seem to others like an "old soul"?

ruler of the 2nd in 3rd- did your relatives help you get money? did you get money from teaching/media ? do you appreciate a person ability to express himself with words?

ruler of 3rd in 2nd- do money business keep coming in conversations with you? do you often express your values in conversations? do you keep lots of small bits of information like a little werehouse?

ruler of 4th in 2nd- was your family well off financially? did your parent put a lot of attention to teach you to hold your values? is your family materialistic? do you want to have exspensive furniture to show off your taste?

ruler of 5th in 1st- do you express yourself through your appearance? do you enjoy doing "makeovers" to yourself and change your appearnce?

ruler of 6th in 12th- do you often help people with their personal problems? do you usually get very little in return? do you have health problems?

rule rof 7th in 12th-do you want a "soul level" relationship? are you attracted to people who can see your true self and not the outer mask? do you see vulnerability as attractive in another? did you have problematic to horrible relationships? sttraction to the "wrong types"?

ruler of 8th house in the 11th- are you closely connected to your friends? do you share many deep feelings with them? is reaching deep levels of intimacy (not only physical one) with another something you strive for?

ruler of 9th in 12th-was your education problematic? did you travel at all? if you did was a deeply changing experience for you? do you seek spirituality outside formal religion?

euler of 10th in 12- do you seek to help others in your proffesion? maybe counseling? do you want to work in a job that actually makes a difference to someone and not just work for the money?

ruler of 11th in 12- are your friends few but special? did you have a friend who caused you great sorrow? did someone made you think your dreams will never come true? did a gruop or an organization hurt you in any way?

ruler of 12 in 12-reaching a strong connection to spirituality will require you to take a deep look inside yourself.
religion might not be the path for you and so you might have to do your own soul search for your connection with the higher spirit

posted September 24, 2012 12:26 PM            

Ruler of the 1st in 12th

My childhood definately wasn't easy, a lot of bullying and hatred
against me for my appearance (because of stereotypes), back then I
didn't have a clue why.. sadly.

I'm definately connected to myself more, spiritually as well and yes, I
do take it more seriously than others.

Mmm.. actually I feel they might see that, also most of my friends

don't know I listen to older music, but I'm sure they would think that
if they knew, I listen to music from different decades but I will
always prefer older music, it has a rather "familiar" feel to me.

There were times I felt suicidal but I always said to myself, I will go

through this no matter how hard it can get, most people that commit
suicide can't handle inner suffering, I can, and oddly enough, I
always have this feeling that tells me I've been through this before.

Ruler of the 2nd in 3rd

I have no siblings. Since I don't have a career yet, I can't answer
that one yet (getting money from media/teaching), yes, I defiantely
appreciate it when a person can express him/herself with words.
It's
also easy on my part since it gives me a bit more time to think up what
to say. Though, talking in person seems to be getting a easier for me
slowly...

Ruler of the 3rd in 2nd

If by money business you mean talking about money then yes, definately
comes in my conversations. xD Yes, I express my values in conversations
often, keeping small bits of info like a little warehouse? Mmm.. not sure.

Ruler of 4th in 2nd

Mmm.. at first we kinda were but things just got worse as the years
went by.

Despite the bullying/hate others had for me problem I had as a
kid, yes, my parents (my mother especially) did teach me to hold my
values. Oh, lord YES!!! DEFINATELY materialistic they are! Mmm.. nah, I
prefer to save as much money as possible and not be a show off to people.

Ruler of 5th in 1st

Mmm..not sure about this one, I just wear casual stuff, I'm simple, in Placidus, Mars is in 12th, what does
it say about Ruler of 5th in 12th?

Ruler of 6th in 12th

Yes, I'm always willing to listen to other's problems and maybe help
them IF I can somehow. Yes, I usually get very little in return, almost
to nothing.

Mmm.. I'm not at an older age yet so can't say, unless you
count my messed up sleep pattern but that's mostly because of my afflicted moon I think.

Ruler of 7th in 12th

YES!!! MOST DEFINATELY YES!!!! I love it when people can see me for who
I truly am on the inside, I DESPISE superficial people with a might.
Yes, I see vulnerability attractive.

Never been in a relationship
before, unfortunately..,. , attraction to the wrong types? Mmm... if by that you mean what others consider "bad" people to society than no, there are no bad females I find attractive. xD I find them repulsive.

Ruler of 8th in 11th

Lemme put it simple on this one, everything you mentioned= YES!

Ruler of 9th in 12th

I'm repeating high school currently for the 2nd time, so yeah, kind of.

:/ Mm.. a couple of times, and no, no changing experience from them.

And yes, because I don't believe religion has all the answers I'm
looking for, I'm 100% sure reincarnation IS real, and I believe the
answer is your own self, because ask yourself, why are you stuck in a
body you never chose to begin living a life that you also never chose.

It's like playing a video game and the game forces you to play as a
random character on hard or easy mode depending how you played before.

And when the game (life) is over, the game resets and you play as

another random character. It just doesn't make sense to me that you

only play the game once and you never get to play it again, which is what a lot of religion say it is. (this is my opinion, anyone that's in a religion pls don't get angry at me or something)

Ruler of 10th in 12th

Mmm.. I'm considering going for psychology but I'm not entirely sure yet. Since I have other goals in my mind.

Ruler of 11th in 12th

Yes, I have few friends I consider special, Mmm.. no, never had one
that caused me great sorrow. Nope, infact, they all encourage me to go
for it and no, never had a group hurt me and I don't work for any organization.

Ruler of 12th in 12th

Everything you mentioned here makes sense to me, as I mentioned before,

I don't believe religion holds the answers to what life is hiding from
everyone on earth regarding life and death. After doing a lot of
research, I believe I'm pretty close.

is repression,weakness and a deep spiritual seacrh for self improvement a theme in your life?

It seems so, all of what you mentioned... the 12th house sure seems rather bleak though, I have no
idea what I did in my immediate past life to have so many things
involving the 12th house in my chart.

I wish I had ATLEAST an idea what might've happened since I can't do past life regression at the moment. Plus I've had so many dreams in my life that I can't even think about ones that seem to stand out from the rest.

posted September 24, 2012 12:47 PM            

ruler of 5th in 12th usually exspress very little of themselves while having great depth...personally i belive that this ruler placement could lead one to be an artist...if additional influences are seen too

you said you were bullied...i think that is in a way being hurt by a group

although the 12th house seems bleak...its depth is so great and unique astrology is yet to understand fully

i dont think you did anything bad in your past life...only that your cycle is reaching to an end...and all those placements are partially touching the next world...if you wish to name it such

posted September 24, 2012 08:00 PM            

Love you

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posted September 26, 2012 02:20 AM            

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ruler of the 7th in the 12th House (well, at the cusp, behaving as in the 12th).

1. Do you want a "soul level" relationship? preferably, if something like that really exists
2. are you attracted to people who can see your true self and not the outer mask?
yes, but it is scary, maybe the true self won't be good enough
3. do you see vulnerability as attractive in another?
yes, let's be vulnerable together !
4. did you have problematic to horrible relationships?
I also had none. But it is probably due to more than this placement.
5. sttraction to the "wrong types"?
Attraction to the types that are not interested, are taken, are married, or don't approve me in the quality test for several reasons :-) including the implications of the fact I have never had a relationship - And, to types that are very different from me....

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