posted February 22, 2012 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
what bout dis? d 1st part at the very top..
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7

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Oooo I like this page I can't believe I missed that there. I have that site bookmarked to my phone. Guess I didn't look hard enuf huh. Thank u.

posted February 23, 2012 12:29 AM            

Your Mars is actually in the 4th house, not the 5th.

As far as your rulers, you have:
Ruler of 1st in 4th
Ruler of 2nd in 6th
Ruler of 3rd in 6th
Ruler of 4th in 3rd
Ruler of 5th in 6th
Ruler of 6th in 6th
Ruler of 7th in 6th
Ruler of 8th in 7th
Ruler of 9th in 5th
Ruler of 10th in 6th
Ruler of 11th in 8th
Ruler of 12th in 9th

posted February 23, 2012 07:20 AM            

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posted February 23, 2012 10:00 AM            

I want to go on to the next step with House Rulers. If you have read my first three articles, in this series, you should be able to do the first step, which is the easiest. You should be able to identify the ASC and the ruler of the ASC, which is called the Chart Ruler. For a quick review. The ASC is the cusp on the First House.If you have a Scorpio ASC, your Chart Ruler would be Pluto.Pluto is the planet that rules the sign of Scorpio. Then, you can see the House in which Pluto resides. That House will, always, be one of the most important spheres of life, for you.

We will go on. House Rulers is a system which shows which spheres of life are important to each person. More so, certain spheres of life “serve” other spheres of life. This is the ESSENCE of chart rulers. I will try to explain what I mean, in general. Then, I will go on, with examples. We will take a Players Chart for an example of how Houses serve other Houses. With a player, he will have a full 5th house, the house of quick romances and fun. He will have, at least, three planets in the Fifth House, usually. So, Rulers of OTHER Houses are situated in the Fifth. We can say that these other Houses are serving the Fifth. For example, Players will often have the Ruler of the Tenth, Ruler of the 8th, Ruler of the 7th and Ruler of the 5th in the 5th house.

This translates to four Houses serving his need for romance, play and fun, which is what the 5th House rules. So, if we look at Ruler of the 10th in the 5th, we can interpret it like this.The man takes his drive for a career and a place in the general society and subsumes it to his drive for fun( the 5th House). If Ruler of the 8th is in the 5th, the man takes his need for soul mate emotional bonding and soul mate sex and subsumes it into his drive for fun and romance( the 5th). If Ruler of the 7th is in the 5th, the man takes his natural desire for one loyal committed partner, which is the 7th house, and subsumes that drive to his drive for fun and romance. I hope you can see how House Rulers work, from this example.

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posted February 23, 2012 10:03 AM            

I want to piggy back on the House Rulers of Players. The Player will have a full 5th House( the House of Play). What if a person has a full 7th House( the House of Marriage)? That would mean that other Houses are SERVING the 7th House. We need to see which Houses serve the 7th to see the thrust of the natives life. I will give some examples. Ruler of the 8th in the 7th would make the native bring soul mate emotions and soul mate sexuality TO the marriage. This would be indicative of a person who would want a loyal committed partner, and not a fling.Ruler of the 10th in the 7th would be a person who would put his career second to his partner. Ruler of the 6th in the 7th would be a person who would be willing to give selfless devotion to his partner.

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posted February 23, 2012 10:04 AM            

I think I have given an idea of why one should bother with House Rulers;why they are important and what they offer us. Now, I will go on to more specifics of doing.The point of House Rulers is to see which spheres of life are important to a person and how these spheres of life RELATE to each other. That is the forest. Now, I will try to do the trees.

We know how to take the Chart Ruler and see the House in which it resides. Now, lets look at the 1st house and what it means when OTHER House Rulers are there. I will do these by talking about each house ruler which ends up in the 1st House and tell you what it means. With the 1st House, one wants to WEAR the other houses on oneself, we could say. One wants to USE the other Houses to make one look more enhanced: more elevated in status in the world. The House Rulers which are in the 1st house are used to enhance the ego of the native: they are used to enhance one’s status, in some way.They are like arm candy or prestige candy I will explain more, as we go on.

Ruler of the 1st in 1st– the person has a hard time detaching from his point of view and seeing others points of view.

Ruler of the 2nd in 1st–one cares to LOOK as if one is well off. One cares for one’s car, clothes, jewelry etc to look as they are from a person of substance.

Ruler of the 3rd in the 1st–one wants to LOOK special and unique with one’s manner of expression i.e how one speaks or writes

Ruler of 4th in 1st –one wants ones house to LOOK good, so one can look good, as well

Ruler of 5th in 1st–This one can be a player aspect, as one wants one’s romantic partner to LOOK good on his arm. This could be someone who likes to be the center of attention, as one wears ones role, as a fun person, as part of one’s identity

Ruler of 6th in 1st–one could brag about one’s service or charity work. One may not care about the work as much as how it makes one LOOK, to others.

Ruler of 7 in 1st–one wants one wife to LOOK good to enhance his image.

Ruler of 8th in 1st–one cannot hide one’s deepest emotions or passions. One wears them on his sleeve.

Ruler of 9th in 1st–one may brag about one’s trips or education.One wants to LOOK intellectual or well educated.

Ruler of 10 in 1st — one may brag about one’s career or place in society. One wants to LOOK successful

Ruler of 11 in 1st–one may belong to a group in order to brag about it or be identified with it so one LOOKS as if one cares about group, rather than really caring.

Ruler of 12 in 1st–one may not be able to hide how deeply a mystical and spiritual person one is.

With the 8th and the 12th, the person does not like that these parts of himself show, but he can’t help. The 1st house takes what is hidden and takes it out of hiding, whether the person likes it or not.

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posted February 23, 2012 10:34 AM              

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
When the student is ready the teacher will appear ok I will post my houses and rulers bc I have more questions lol this is what astrodienst has listed for each house and then I will list the ruler by what u posted up above
1st - aries (chart ruler = mars)
2nd - taurus (ruler = venus)
3rd - gemini (ruler = mercury)
4th - cancer (ruler = moon)
5th - cancer (ruler = moon)
6th - leo (ruler = sun)
7th - libra (ruler = venus)
8th - scorpio (ruler = pluto)
9th - saggi (ruler = jupiter)
10th - capricorn (ruler = saturn)
11th - capricorn (ruler = saturn)
12th - aquarius (ruler = uranus)

Whew lol this free chart says I have sun venus and saturn in the 6th house. Ok funny I have all those in virgo. So does that mean virgo also falls in my 6th house it just didn't list it? Which would mean my 6th house would have another ruler...funny I don't c pisces either. Anyways there ya go.

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You seem to be using the default house system on astro of placidus..and they use intercepted signs and houses. that's why you have cancer ruling 2xhouses..

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple

Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

my thread on house meanings http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212349.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002818.html
Sand's house ruler thread...

posted February 23, 2012 10:36 AM              

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Ok so I'm trying to follow how to figure up chart rulers by this thread. U say aries is ruled by mars. I have an aries ascendent which[b] I was assuming that puts mars in my 1st house...I just went to astrodienst and did one of their free reports, typed in my birth info (which was all accurate) and it says 'aries ascendant, mars in 5th house'. Not comprehending now. By their info I have cancer in the 4th and 5th house. Cancer is ruled by the moon.....so confused here lol what am I doing wrong here?[/B]

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Why would you 'assume' your mars would be in the first house? it can be in any one of 12th house.

Just remember planets are modifiey by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*

planets in houses http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

Houses: angular houses 1/7 4/10 the energies of planets placed here are obvious cos it's your 'shop window' visible for everyone to see. Next the succeedent houses 2/8 & 5/11 the energies in these houses are not in shop window the are in the shop, but stood behind the counter, ready to come out when needed. Lastly, cadent houses 6/12 & 3/9 these houses/planets are not in shop window or stood behind the counter, they are in the back storeroom and only come out when 'triggered' or an emergency and much harder to recognise and access...

The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....So remember you may find it harder to identify with planets and Saturn in this case in Cadent houses….

Hope this helps?

posted February 23, 2012 11:00 AM              

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Hmm if I'm understanding u correctly sand, (not sure if I am) both websites r listing I have leo in my 6th house at 22.15 orb. Then it lists me as having libra in my 7th house at 5.89 orb. Can anyone tell me where virgo went to in there? Both websites say the same thing, same orb. I use these sites bc I don't know how to do equal house placement. ??

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When you go to astro, go to free horoscopes tab, bottom of page go to Extended chart selection. here there are multiple options including, changing house systems...

studying house rulers is like conecting the dots in a chart.

posted February 23, 2012 11:08 AM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Shy V
Let me suggest you do a study on the 12 Houses. See what each one rules and which sphere of life is controlled by each. I am looking for some info and will put it up for you.

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house meanings
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-is-a-house-in-astrology.shtml http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookKarma&NewDirections.htm http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart.html http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology) http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_house2_e.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm

posted February 23, 2012 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Thank fondue. I appreciate that. Amianne I know of a few websites that give info about the house and what they represent so I will make sure to look it up esp my 4th house. This is all starting to make a little bit of sense but I feel I need to really study it then study it some more. Altho I'm still not sure about what fondue posted about my rulers and houses. For example: libra in my 7th house makes venus the ruler of h7 correct? If I have leo in my 6th house which is ruled by the sun and I have no personal planets in leo, how is ruler of the 7th in the 6th? I can figure up others bc u said mercury rules both virgo and gemini and I have personal plents in both so I can figure up where my personal plents fall in houses that r ruled by mercury. But not that one...

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posted February 23, 2012 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
I think the confusion is in the different house systems. In Placidus, yes Leo rules your 6th. Even still, you would have the ruler of your 7th in the 6th because Venus still rules the 7th and still resides in your 6th house.

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Yep, you should use Equal Houses for House Rulers.

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posted February 23, 2012 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
You seem to be using the default house system on astro of placidus..and they use intercepted signs and houses. that's why you have cancer ruling 2xhouses..

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple

Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

my thread on house meanings http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212349.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002818.html
Sand's house ruler thread...

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posted February 23, 2012 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Why would you 'assume' your mars would be in the first house? it can be in any one of 12th house.

Just remember planets are modifiey by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*

planets in houses http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

Houses: angular houses 1/7 4/10 the energies of planets placed here are obvious cos it's your 'shop window' visible for everyone to see. Next the succeedent houses 2/8 & 5/11 the energies in these houses are not in shop window the are in the shop, but stood behind the counter, ready to come out when needed. Lastly, cadent houses 6/12 & 3/9 these houses/planets are not in shop window or stood behind the counter, they are in the back storeroom and only come out when 'triggered' or an emergency and much harder to recognise and access...

The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....So remember you may find it harder to identify with planets and Saturn in this case in Cadent houses….

Hope this helps?

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posted February 23, 2012 12:41 PM              

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
In Equal House, Leo rules your 5th, not the 6th. The house rulers have no bearing on where a planet is placed in the chart. The ruler of your 7th is in the 6th because Venus rules the sign of Libra, but in your chart you have a Virgo Venus that falls in the 6th house of your chart. The chart is correct based on the birth data you posted, it's just a matter of figuring out the basics and going from there.

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Basic astrology forum, Learn the basics, Free courses + House systems. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000671.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

here also is my thread for getting FREE readings.. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002828.html