posted February 23, 2012 12:51 PM              

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Yes I was using astro to construct the chart and get house placements that's correct. From what I gather placidus doesn't do the equal house placement. I think. I googled housing systems last night and didn't realize they were all a little different. When I have more time and understand more I think that's an excellent idea u have about doing 2 charts with 2 different systems and seeing which one fits me.

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Equal House System:
A simple, yet highly effective system, this was the method that the ancients used before the various unequal houses systems developed. The signs on the cusps then follow in order around t he wheel beginning with the rising sign. There are no intercepted signs in equal houses and therefore each sign is represented on a particular house cusp. The Equal house system does not create very large or small houses that become even more pronounced the higher the northern or southern latitudes used to calculate the chart.

“The Equal House System avoids the problem with the Placidus which results in extremely uneven houses if the native should be born in extreme northern or southern latitudes.
Each sign is fully represented on a house cusp.
Debbie Kempton Smith the author of Secrets from an StarGazer's Notebook recommends either Equal House or Koch (unequal).
Margaret Hone puts forth an excellent argument in favor of Equal House in her book, "Applied Astrology" which is why it is the default for SkyViewZone.
Jeff Mayo and the Faculty for Astrological Studies also favors this house system.” http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/hone.html http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/systems.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z0nnE2IP7A4C&pg=PA167&dq=astrology+equal+house&as_brr=3&ei=i0iJS-PlGo3mygS89Nn8DQ&cd=2#v=onepage&q=astrology%20equal%20house&f=false

EQUAL HOUSES
“Another of the three most popular house systems is Equal houses which is just what its name implies. All the houses have the same degree on each cusp, and there are no interceptions. Equal house systems are especially useful for people born in the northernmost and southernmost latitudes, and this system is the most popular one in use outside of the United States.” http://www.esotericapublications.com/article-511.html

“Equal house system is the only system that is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit. The zodiac is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit around the Sun which comprises of a 360 degree circle that surrounds the Earth. The mid-heaven is often more, or less than ninety degrees (three signs) from the ascendant, therefore it is not often placed on the tenth house cusp, but marked where it appears in the mid-heaven according to the latitude and longitude of birth. The mid-heaven is taken as an important point; it is the point of self-mastery.” http://marianneohagan.com/house.htm

“The simplest approaches, the equal-house and whole-sign methods, merely require knowledge of the ascendant or ascending sign, and an equal division throughout the rest of the zodiac eliminates the need for any complicated calculations
Yet recent research into classical astrology has created a renewed interest in these simple techniques from a more scholarly perspective. The point of strength is that, regardless of the originating theory behind house division, in practice at least, classical astrologers tended to tie the houses to the signs, apparently concurring with Pelletier, who wrote in defence of the equal house method” http://www.skyscript.co.uk/houprob4.html

Equal House System
“The equal house system calculates the degree of the Ascendant, which is used as the cusp of the first house. Some astrologers do not like this system because it does not equate the 10th house cusp with the Midheaven (which indicates the degree that is highest in the sky above the horizon at the place of birth). However, the Midheaven can certaintly still be noted in this house system as well as any planet forming an aspect to that angle.” http://www.astrolady.com/housesystems.php

posted February 23, 2012 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Equal House System:
A simple, yet highly effective system, this was the method that the ancients used before the various unequal houses systems developed. The signs on the cusps then follow in order around t he wheel beginning with the rising sign. There are no intercepted signs in equal houses and therefore each sign is represented on a particular house cusp. The Equal house system does not create very large or small houses that become even more pronounced the higher the northern or southern latitudes used to calculate the chart.

“The Equal House System avoids the problem with the Placidus which results in extremely uneven houses if the native should be born in extreme northern or southern latitudes.
Each sign is fully represented on a house cusp.
Debbie Kempton Smith the author of Secrets from an StarGazer's Notebook recommends either Equal House or Koch (unequal).
Margaret Hone puts forth an excellent argument in favor of Equal House in her book, "Applied Astrology" which is why it is the default for SkyViewZone.
Jeff Mayo and the Faculty for Astrological Studies also favors this house system.” http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/hone.html http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/systems.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm http:// books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z0nnE2IP7A4C&pg=PA167&dq=astrology+equal+house&as_brr=3&ei=i0iJS-PlGo3mygS89Nn8DQ&cd=2#v=onepage&q=astrology%20equal%20house&f=false

EQUAL HOUSES
“Another of the three most popular house systems is Equal houses which is just what its name implies. All the houses have the same degree on each cusp, and there are no interceptions. Equal house systems are especially useful for people born in the northernmost and southernmost latitudes, and this system is the most popular one in use outside of the United States.” http://www.esotericapublications.com/article-511.html

“Equal house system is the only system that is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit. The zodiac is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit around the Sun which comprises of a 360 degree circle that surrounds the Earth. The mid-heaven is often more, or less than ninety degrees (three signs) from the ascendant, therefore it is not often placed on the tenth house cusp, but marked where it appears in the mid-heaven according to the latitude and longitude of birth. The mid-heaven is taken as an important point; it is the point of self-mastery.” http://marianneohagan.com/house.htm

“The simplest approaches, the equal-house and whole-sign methods, merely require knowledge of the ascendant or ascending sign, and an equal division throughout the rest of the zodiac eliminates the need for any complicated calculations
Yet recent research into classical astrology has created a renewed interest in these simple techniques from a more scholarly perspective. The point of strength is that, regardless of the originating theory behind house division, in practice at least, classical astrologers tended to tie the houses to the signs, apparently concurring with Pelletier, who wrote in defence of the equal house method” http://www.skyscript.co.uk/houprob4.html

Equal House System
“The equal house system calculates the degree of the Ascendant, which is used as the cusp of the first house. Some astrologers do not like this system because it does not equate the 10th house cusp with the Midheaven (which indicates the degree that is highest in the sky above the horizon at the place of birth). However, the Midheaven can certaintly still be noted in this house system as well as any planet forming an aspect to that angle.” http://www.astrolady.com/housesystems.php

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posted February 23, 2012 02:39 PM            

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posted February 23, 2012 03:17 PM            

H1 - aries - ruler is mars (this is my chart ruler)
H2 - taurus - ruler is venus
H3 - gemini - ruler is mercury
H4 - cancer - ruler is moon
H5 - leo - ruler is sun
H6 - virgo - ruler is mercury
H7 - libra - ruler is venus
H8 - scorpio - ruler is pluto
H9 - sag - ruler is jupiter
H10 - capricorn - ruler is saturn
H11 - aquarius - ruler is uranus
H12 - pisces - ruler is neptune

posted February 23, 2012 04:01 PM            

In other words--Ruler of the 1st resides in the 6th etc
Then, we will talk about each one

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posted February 24, 2012 09:29 AM            

Now--on the 2dn house cups--what is there-Taurus? If so in WHICH House is Venus?

That would be ruler of the 2nd going to which house. THAT house is how you will make money?

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posted February 24, 2012 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Is there a rule of thumb or trick to do that? Cuz some I can figure out, others I can't and id like to jot it down in my notes. I'll use H1 as an example. My H1 is obviously ruled by mars. Mars corresponds to aries. I have no personal planets in aries other than the ascendant. But I'm not entirely sure if that's how u look at it.

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posted February 24, 2012 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
You just look at where Mars is in your chart. It doesn't matter that you have no planets in Aries. Aries is Mars' natural ruler, but in your chart Mars in Cancer rules your 1st house/chart and is in the 4th house, thus ruler of the 1st in the 4th.

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The hardest thing about House Rulers is that it excludes identities of planets and EVERYTHING is just House.

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posted February 24, 2012 12:20 PM              

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Is there a rule of thumb or trick to do that? Cuz some I can figure out, others I can't and id like to jot it down in my notes. I'll use H1 as an example. My H1 is obviously ruled by mars. Mars corresponds to aries. I have no personal planets in aries other than the ascendant. But I'm not entirely sure if that's how u look at it.

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Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

please use the above to websites to explain how we make the connections..

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Ruler of the First House in the First House

You want to create a distinct first impression on other people and the image you project is very important to you. There may be a strong resemblance to one of your grandparents.

Ruler of the First House in the Second House

You have a strong desire to accumulate possessions and earning your own money is important to you. What you have, materially speaking, influences your outlook on life. Creating your own sense of liberty and freedom largely depends on how well you handle your financial security issues.

Ruler of the First House in the Third House

You're curious about life and learning is important to you. You want to get your ideas noticed and communication is important to you.
There is a strong need to feel well integrated into your immediate community and you may make many short local trips.
You tend to have a lot of interest in your siblings if you have them and you identify strongly with close relatives in general.

Ruler of the First House in the Fourth House

You may have a strong identification with your mother and/or your home and it's likely that your upbringing had a strong influence on you. You enjoy your privacy and the domestic scene in general. Inheritance in the form of real estate of some kind is a possibility, perhaps through a grandparent.

Ruler of the First House in the Fifth House

You enjoy most forms of play and recreation. Love, love affairs and other social activities help to enhance a healthy self image.
There may also be a strong identification with children in general, even your own children. You are creative and you have the ability to hold the attention of an audience. Remember, you can't go wrong when you follow the dictates of your own heart.

Ruler of the First House in the Sixth House

This chart factor indicates that you have a strong work ethic and you probably identify yourself by the work you are capable of doing. Health is important to you and very often your outlook on life affects your well-being. Avoid getting caught up in negative downward spirals. You are the type of person who can reap personal benefits from staying active and feeling useful. Your own cares and concerns will melt away when you find a way to become involved in helping others.

Ruler of the First House in the Seventh House

The relationships that you form with other people, such as your marriage partner or best friends, will represent a high priority for you. Even though you make a strong impression on other people whether you're aware of it or not you really care about their opinions and their acceptance of you. Where diplomacy is a plus, you can teach others something about the fine art of cooperation. You'd make a fine counselor because of your ability to relate to other people.

Ruler of the First House in the Eighth House

You may have a lot of curiosity about the so-called mysteries of life such as occult practices and other metaphysical studies. You can develop your psychic abilities or perhaps you are more drawn to the healing potential found in the eighth house.
You'll likely have an important experience that transforms your life approach in a major way. Whatever it is, you'll emerge more evolved at a very deep level of your being. Other people's resources, such as a spouse's money, or an inheritance, could play a significant role in your life somehow.

Ruler of the First House in the Ninth House

You have a strong interest in broadening your mental experiences, perhaps through higher education, exploring different philosophies of life, or even through developing your own ideas about what makes the universe tick. Be ready to do some long distance traveling during your life. It's in the stars.

Ruler of the First House in the Tenth House

Whatever career you end up in, it's one that you feel a strong sense of identity with. You may also have a strong identity with your father, or perhaps just authority figures in general. You have an enhanced sense of duty and responsibility, which accounts for your sometimes very serious outlook on life. People know this and they don't mind handing over the controls to you when the time comes.

Ruler of the First House in the Eleventh House

Your friends, acquaintances and other large groups of people will play important roles in your life overall. Humanitarian pursuits and organizations dedicated to some kind of wide-scale social change may become significant to you also. You may strongly identify with those things that are considered to be ahead of the times, or with anything that breaks with societal traditions.

Ruler of the First House in the Twelfth House

Your outlook on life can be brought into balance by spending some time alone to meditate and recharge your batteries.
Avoid becoming your own adversary by falling into the "woe is me" victim trap. Spiritual philosophies that go beyond traditional orthodox viewpoints can bring revealing insights into your life and the meaning of it all. You may identify somehow with large public institutions that provide a service to society, especially the helping professions.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr1

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posted February 24, 2012 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
You just look at where Mars is in your chart. It doesn't matter that you have no planets in Aries. Aries is Mars' natural ruler, but in your chart Mars in Cancer rules your 1st house/chart and is in the 4th house, thus ruler of the 1st in the 4th.

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posted February 24, 2012 01:22 PM            

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posted February 24, 2012 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:

Oh wow how weird! I was JUST thinking this morning that there r 12 houses and only 10 planets. Well 9 but bc technically the moon isn't really a planet but for the sake of keeping things simple I told myself 10. Which means everyone would have at least 2 empty houses then no?

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No, because Mercury and Venus both rule two signs. Venus has Taurus and Libra, Mercury has Gemini and Virgo.

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posted February 24, 2012 08:43 PM            

Ruler of 12th in 9th

Is this list right, Shy V? If so, we can start on them, tomorrow?

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posted February 25, 2012 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Yes I believe it to b correct. I triple checked it and it came out the same each time tomorrow is fine. I don't expect everyone to sit by their computer or phone lol I will check back sometimes tomorrow then.

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Ok went out to a party tonight, so tomorrow it is

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posted February 26, 2012 10:06 AM            

Lets start with these. The 4th House will be a Theme House. You will, always, be connected to your early childhood, for your whole life. Is that true? Your own home, as an adult, will be your base?

2nd in 6th--you will make money from a hands on, practical service.

3rd in 6

you love to chat about doing service for others or health.

How did I do

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posted February 26, 2012 08:05 PM            

Now, how to word it where it makes sense.. hmm...

Generally, from what I've learned through studying Astrology is that planets Retrograde are debilitated. Not everyone thinks that, mind you.. just the general consensus I've come across. So.. you have a planet that's Retro within a house, that house, the things it rules and so forth, you're going to suffer setbacks and have a harder time in that area of your life because of it, right? And then also in the house that planet rules? Like, to use myself as an example..
The ruler of my 7th is Mars.. my Mars is Retro, in the 8th. So the RULER of my 7th house is Retro.. which means I'll struggle with 7th house matters AS WELL as 8th house ones?

Have I made sense at all?!? Haha.
The main question I'm asking is; Do retrograde planets affect the houses as well? They'd kinda have to, right? Sorry if it's a dumb question.. it's just been drivin' me crazy tryin' to piece it all together!!!!!!