posted November 19, 2012 07:53 PM            

The NN in synastry is amazing. If a person has a planet or asteroid on your NN, they will bring the flavor of that planet or asteroid TO the relationship. It may not show up if it is not a committed long term relationship. However, if it is, it will show up. If it is a hard planet or asteroid, you will eat your fill of it until you want to burst.

I am very strong about the NN in synastry, for this reason. If I see a chart with a hard planet or asteroid conjunct someone’s NN, I tell them to be very careful of marrying the person. If a persons Saturn conjuncts your NN, they will bring restriction and discipline in to your life. You may feel like you are living with a strict father. If you can take this, so be it, but be aware that the relationship WILL bring the flavor of Saturn to it. If a persons Nessus conjuncts your NN, that person will bring the darkest parts of the human soul to you. Do you want that?

I will list some.

Dejanira conj NN—the person will be your victim.

Juno conj the NN–the person will bring you all the best traits of a loyal wife

Vesta conj the NN–the person will bring you devotion

Pallas conj the NN–the person will bring you wisdom

Uranus conj the NN–the relationship will have a lot of ups and downs in strange ways. There may be a lot of make-ups and break ups

Pluto conj the NN— there will be all kinds of primal passion. This will define the relationship, for better or worse. Think of Liz and Dick. Your relationship will be very very passionate.

Moon conj the NN–the person will bring you his heart. This would be wonderful. It would be a child like kind of bond.

Sun conj NN- the person would bring confidence to you

Jupiter con the NN- the person will bring optimism to you.

Chiron conj the NN–the person will bring you pain

Mars onj the NN–the person will bring you drive

Venus conj the NN–the person will be a thing of beauty to you. Your relationship will have a sense of beauty such as the feeling of a musical.

Neptune conj the NN—this may bring great sorrow as you may have had ideals that were not met leading to great sorrow. I have heard this could lead to bad abuse or worse. This is a theory which someone I know is studying.

Nessus conj the NN–the person will bring you abuse

Pholus conj he NN–the person will bring all sorts of explosive outbursts

Child conj the NN–the person will bring his inner child to you and that childlike sense will pervade the relationship. There will be a child to child kind of wonderful feeling between you.

Eros conj the NN–the relationship will be very erotic

Lilith conj the NN–the person will bring his raw sexuality to the relationship. Raw sexuality will be a theme of the relationship.

Medusa conj the NN- the person will have been betrayed by woman but hate men. This theme will be brought by the person to the relationship. This theme will define the relationship, too

Sedna conj NN–the person will bring a severe betrayal by men to the relationship. This theme will define the relationship

Sappho conj the NN–the person will bring eroticism of a literary bent. The music “Bolero” by Ravel would be the feeling of your relationship

Apollo conj the NN–The NN person would adore the Apollo person. The NN person would have a kind of awe for the Apollo person

Proserpina conj the NN—The Proserpina Person would bring some kind of rite of passage from innocence into some form of corruption to the NN person. How this may play out. The Proserpina person may corrupt the innocence of the NN person, in some way.

Orchus conj the NN–The Orchus person would make the relationship about a journey of overcoming. There may be issues of illness, poverty etc. The relationship may be one of overcoming, but they would do so.

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posted November 19, 2012 07:54 PM            

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posted November 22, 2012 10:34 AM            

What if someone's Vertex nodes fall on your S/N.Nodal axis?!

~~~~ I'm just getting into synastry so not sure if it is significant~ there are planets and asteroids involved of some significance though... (He's got his V~ exact my S/N (Ven-Vesta) axis.... lol (relationship is a long time over~ but it has been shaping up into a really interesting project regardless~)

Gotta thank you Ami! ~(and everyone in the Asteroid section too)!~ <3 been such a help and blessing having LL to rely on~

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posted November 22, 2012 07:46 PM            

Are NN's are trine & his Eros is conjunct mine and you are so dead on that description. LOL!!

This is where it gets weird and karmic. We were together almost 20 years ago, but broke up. We were just kids them (18 & 21) but reconnected and became aquaintances over MySpace (we have tons of mutual friends) while we were both still married to other people.

His wife cheated on him & they split. 6 months later my then husband asked for a divorce & he offered advice and consolation. We started talking again over the phone (he lives 3 hours away) & 3 years ago I went & visited him. We've been together since.

Funny part about this is, I don't go back after I am done with a relationship; especially if I have been rejected. Ex husband tried to get me back after the divorce was finalized. I am always the one that got away.

I started delving deeper into astrology due to this relationship, because I was puzzled as to why I went against my normal nature.

Any thoughts, insights etc... would be much appreciated.

posted November 22, 2012 08:19 PM            

That is some amazing synastry you have!

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posted November 22, 2012 08:23 PM            

I ~love~ the experience you shared~~~ gosh I only wish I could be so lucky~ hah! What you described is pretty much dead-on with the chart that has me perplexed right now. His Vertex nodes on my SN/NN~ My Sun is on his DC Node~ I'm off on having my Vertex on his SN/NN poles though... haha

I usually do the - "never again" thing too~ but, in the case of this old SO~ that wouldn't apply.. we were torn apart by some really crazy/nasty (probably) karmic disruptions, in a very extreme way. But, there's always that saying "never say never" right?!

@ Ami Anne ~ I would say that fits very well~ although I do wonder if he wasn't the one who was giving me the familiarity/cozy-feeling~ (my SN IV - it's in his V) --- we also have our venus conjunct each others moons on either node ~~ among other great-for-study connections.

How often does this occur??? Would you say it is moreso common if say, the connection was symbolic of something karmic/predestined?

~~~ oh and geeze - you guys really made my day (er night, here)!~ I was hoping to find one person who had this aspect, since I cannot find too much on node-synastry to begin with, let alone putting Vertex points in the picture.

I'd be greatly interested in knowing if you've seen it occur often~? And for FireOpal~ did you have anything similar with your exhusband?? (my husband and I are "supposed" to have good astrological connections, but there's nothing likened to the chart of the Vx/Node person I'm studying up on.)~

I'm all scatterbrained again, and gotta put the little imp to sleep soon. I hope you'll excuse any incoherence in my response/questions ~~ I am quite excited, and have a monkey jumping on the bed/off the walls where I'm sitting~~ hah

As always --- thank you!~ <333

posted November 22, 2012 09:20 PM            

Manfriend & have some pretty harsh Saturn aspects, but I think we have more sweet than bitter. I still live out of town, but we make the best of it.

I think manfriend & I could not handle the energy when we were wee ones. He broke up with me back then and I hurt like hell.

Also, my Sun is 2 degrees of Manfriend's sun/moon midpoint.

As for ex husband. My Sun was on his DC and on his Mars. He is the epitome of a bug Scorpio (shadow side). He had a Mercury-Neptune on my Scorpio IC. My 3H Mercury in Scorpio would call him on his b.s. He did not like that & I was cast out. He still tries to be a douchebag & control me in regard to our kid. He is just being his unevolved Eddie Haskell self & trying to **** me off still. Ain't falling for it.

posted November 22, 2012 09:44 PM            

Call me Claire. I did not realize I was the second Fireopal on here. I am Fireopal09 due to Saggittarius Venus born on the 9 day of October as John Lennon.

Claire

posted November 22, 2012 11:05 PM            

If I'm not mistaken, then you sorta "taught" your ex a karmic lesson?? ^_^

Thank the heavens~ my husband (who I would have left years ago if I wasn't in a very compromising position as a non-Canadian citizen at the time) has no major karmic aspects to my placements~ lol

But, your experiences are enough validation in my eyes to say that there is definitely purpose to the NN/SN-Angle synastry aspects~ be it karmic, destiny, w/e... ^^

I'm still learning to read/interpret charts in general~ and, haven't finished pouring over this set~ but I have a feeling it will be/has been my only "experience" with that weird "soul-mate/flame" undertone. I find it really interesting now that the DSC/ASC nodes are indeed just as important as the Vx/Nodal axes~ but they do seem to have that same bearing.

Thank you so much, Claire~

O~ my hubby has Scorpion Moon~ which I've started to fear recently... (he was unfaithful, and is a compulsive liar/escapist/delusional)~ I have an odd feeling that he'll be using his devolved Scorpion influence to p^ss me off when I do get my divorce~ which eventually I will... and I fully expect war~ but vini-vidi-vici ~

I have PLU/MARS conjunct in SCO III~ plus my Saturn in there~ I don't think he realizes yet how bad things are, and how very bad I can get... This Leave it to Beaver, Mrs. Cleaver sh^t just ain't for me... lol

Thankfully~ or so I hope~ I have Saturn return coming up~ <3 GOSH I love Saturn. Anyway ~ have a great night~ (I ramble, esp when it's late! sorry for going OOT a bit)~!!

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posted November 23, 2012 06:33 PM            

I had my Saturn return I believe when I got pregnant. It wasn't as scary as some folks make it out to be.

I'm glad my story helped you out. This NN/Vx/ASC axis has very limited info; well, at least on the interwebs.

I'm going to share a karmic story about the ex hubby that is flippin' hilarious. Ex's crazy girlfriend moved in with him 10/10. Her name is Robyn,but in my head I called her Vulture. I knew her (intuition told me she was a conniving b*tch even before the separation and I think she pounced on him while we were separated but dating (fiasco). Anyway, I sent an email asking ex & Vulture opinions about what we should get daughter for the holidays. Vulture sends me an email telling me she is leaving ex. I call ex up about this new wrinkle. HE DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO LEAVE HIM!

I consoled ex over the phone for hours 2 nights in a row. He apologized to me for being such a prick during our marriage & was fishing around to see if we could get back together. No dice. I was already with Manfriend & liking the almost unconditional acceptence offered to me (his moon conjunct my venus, perhaps?).

During those conversations, ex asked about Manfriend. Manfriend is friends with a cousin I don't speak with anymore, but she knew Manfriend & I in the first incarnation. Ex said cousin called Manfriend Claire's true love. Salt meet wound.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that story, because it is amazingly karmic & sort of funny.

((Hugs)) to all my newfound astro friends.

posted November 23, 2012 08:17 PM            

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Originally posted by fireopal09:
I just noticed his Valentine is on my NN. Not sure what that means.

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He will bring you love so true that he will throw himself in front of a car to save you!

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posted November 24, 2012 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by fireopal09:
It's a 5 orb conjunction. Crap.

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It could be ambient.

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posted November 24, 2012 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by fireopal09:
Ami Anne, Thank you so much for posting about this subject. My manfriend's NN conjuncts my DC which opposes his SN BML & Vertex that sits right on my ASC.

Are NN's are trine & his Eros is conjunct mine and you are so dead on that description. LOL!!

This is where it gets weird and karmic. We were together almost 20 years ago, but broke up. We were just kids them (18 & 21) but reconnected and became aquaintances over MySpace (we have tons of mutual friends) while we were both still married to other people.

His wife cheated on him & they split. 6 months later my then husband asked for a divorce & he offered advice and consolation. We started talking again over the phone (he lives 3 hours away) & 3 years ago I went & visited him. We've been together since.

Funny part about this is, I don't go back after I am done with a relationship; especially if I have been rejected. Ex husband tried to get me back after the divorce was finalized. I am always the one that got away.

I started delving deeper into astrology due to this relationship, because I was puzzled as to why I went against my normal nature.

Any thoughts, insights etc... would be much appreciated.

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I am having a hard time following this, Sweetie. Can you break it down to one thing at a time

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posted November 24, 2012 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
@ FireOpal

I ~love~ the experience you shared~~~ gosh I only wish I could be so lucky~ hah! What you described is pretty much dead-on with the chart that has me perplexed right now. His Vertex nodes on my SN/NN~ My Sun is on his DC Node~ I'm off on having my Vertex on his SN/NN poles though... haha

I usually do the - "never again" thing too~ but, in the case of this old SO~ that wouldn't apply.. we were torn apart by some really crazy/nasty (probably) karmic disruptions, in a very extreme way. But, there's always that saying "never say never" right?!

@ Ami Anne ~ I would say that fits very well~ although I do wonder if he wasn't the one who was giving me the familiarity/cozy-feeling~ (my SN IV - it's in his V) --- we also have our venus conjunct each others moons on either node ~~ among other great-for-study connections.

How often does this occur??? Would you say it is moreso common if say, the connection was symbolic of something karmic/predestined?

~~~ oh and geeze - you guys really made my day (er night, here)!~ I was hoping to find one person who had this aspect, since I cannot find too much on node-synastry to begin with, let alone putting Vertex points in the picture.

I'd be greatly interested in knowing if you've seen it occur often~? And for FireOpal~ did you have anything similar with your exhusband?? (my husband and I are "supposed" to have good astrological connections, but there's nothing likened to the chart of the Vx/Node person I'm studying up on.)~

I'm all scatterbrained again, and gotta put the little imp to sleep soon. I hope you'll excuse any incoherence in my response/questions ~~ I am quite excited, and have a monkey jumping on the bed/off the walls where I'm sitting~~ hah

As always --- thank you!~ <333

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posted December 30, 2012 04:55 PM              

Could you please comment on our synastry - it's me first- I'm also assuming that True node is the same as NN. I read that somewhere.

True Node Trine Sun (0.8)
True Node Sextile Moon (0.4)
True Node Square Venus (0.2)
Venus conj True Node (1.0)
True Node Trine Vertex (0.6)
True Node Square Mercury (3.8)
Ascendant Square True Node (2.0)

posted December 30, 2012 05:26 PM            

He says (and demostrates) that he is fixated on me.
It's mutual

I'll have to look up other asteroids when I'm not on my phone.

posted December 31, 2012 10:03 AM            

-His True Node sextile My pluto
-My True Node trine His Mercury
-My True Node trine His Venus
-My True Node trine His Jupiter
-My True Node square His Mars