posted March 26, 2013 08:29 AM            

I have never seen obsession without classic aspects in the chart. One is Nessus. Nessus is the asteroid of the abuser and we all have one.The other factor which is always present is the asteroid Dejanira. Dejanira is the asteroid of the victim and we all have one. Astrology is humbling. Each person is capable of everything. However, the chart configuration presents different challenges to each of us. To a person with a prominent Nessus in the natal chart, he will want to abuse. There is no way to say it, but straight out. By prominent, I mean Nessus conjunct the ASC, MC, or any of the personal planets which are the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars. Does he HAVE to abuse? No. Will he abuse until he learns the spiritual and emotional lessons which prevent it? Yes, most likely.

Back to the synastry, Nessus is always dominant in a synastry of obsession. I have my own theory as to why. It is because the relationship brings up childhood abuse. Love and abuse are inextricably bound to the person who was abused as a child. Abuse and love form part of a soup in which the ingredients have melded into one. One cannot distinguish parts. As such, the woman( we shall use a woman here, although it could be a man) feels love when she should be running for the hills.

Dejanira is the asteroid of the victim. In a synastry of obsession, both of these asteroids are prominent. Each person will touch a pivotal part of the chart of the other person with his Nessus and Dejanira. It is simply the case and has never failed. The other thing that always seems to happen is that the relationship heats up to nuclear passion and then dies. When it dies, the passion turns to hatred and the hatred can be bad. It can be cold hatred that plots revenge. One does not toy with these asteroids.

I would not call Nessus and Dejanira soul mate asteroids because a soul mate relationship lasts until people are old and grey. Nessus and Dejanira seems to burn up like a firecracker and when it comes down, it is with a fizzle and a thud. I don’t think there is any high quite like a Nessus/Dejanira relationship.If you have ever been in a relationship which feels like heroin, I would bet it was a Nessus/Dejanira relationship. You will feel like you have found your true soul mate. That seems to be the case in all of these relationships. You are as sure of this as of anything. However, it seems to be a deception based on your own history and not the person in front of you. Nessus and Dejanira relationships seem to be a replay of your history. They are wonderful in the beginning, just as you had glorious promise as a child. However, if you were abused, that promise floated away as debris in the ocean. You were left longing for that old life where endless possibilities still seemed as if they could come true. Nessus and Dejanira relationships allow them to come true for a time. That time is magical like little else but it is a mirage as an oasis in the desert to a man dying of thirs

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posted March 26, 2013 11:57 AM            

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posted March 27, 2013 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
Hey Ami Anne

Would my Nessus conjunct his Venus and his nessus opposite my Asc make me obsessed with him?
I was infatuated for awhile,but I've let go alot in the past few months.

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Hi Gemmy
Yes. When Nessus touches personal parts of the chart in a CLOSE orb, it makes obsession, often. The orb must be close- not really more than 2 degrees.

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posted March 28, 2013 07:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
My Nessus to his Venus 2 degrees
His Nessus to my Dsc 0 degrees

I was wondering,how is Nessus obsession different from Pluto obsession?Cause his Sun/Pluto conjunction also trines my stellium at 0 to 1 degree orbs .So maybe that just added to the intensity.

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Great question, Gemmy! each planet and asteroid has it's own unique flavor. Pluto is primal passions like a wild tiger roaming in the wild. Nessus is pure abuse with no thought for the other. These in combo can be a dark violent passion as in vampire movies but broken down, each has it's unique identity

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posted May 16, 2013 01:23 PM            

Nessus, Pluto and Saturn.
What is your first impression after reading this?

posted May 16, 2013 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Ami darling,

someone new around me in the office makes my heart ponder.

His Nessus is smack on my Moon at 0 degree orb. His 1st house, my 3th.
No Dejanira aspects.
My Pluto opposites his Venus at 0 degree and
my Pluto squares his Moon at 1 degree.
My Pluto also parallels his Mars at the most exact orb of 0.00
His Saturn opposites my Venus at 1 degree and my Saturn opposites his Mars.
Nessus, Pluto and Saturn.
Should i be worried? What is your first impression after reading this?

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Super, super, super hot. You won't be able to resist BUT these super hot nessus relationships usually end with a lot of damage imo

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posted May 16, 2013 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Super, super, super hot. You won't be able to resist BUT these super hot nessus relationships usually end with a lot of damage imo

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Ole Nessus in a close proximity to a Moon, Psyche...

posted July 03, 2013 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by PiscesCancerTaurus:
Her Dejanira opposite my Moon and trine my Venus 0 degrees.

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She will bring the victim side of herself to you. Does that mean the doom of the relationship? No. However, I would want to see true soul ties like Moon trine moon. If you have a lot of nessus with her, I have not seen these relationships do well, in my experience.

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posted July 13, 2013 04:22 PM            

As you might've guessed, he was emotionally abusive towards me - lots of nasty remarks, made me feel guilty about everything, I was always holding him back, always the bad guy in our arguments, etc. I had to bend to his wishes but when I wanted him to do something for me, it was too much to ask, too demanding, etc. Nessus fell into my 1st house; it was as if my whole general way of acting was being criticised and looked down upon time after time.

Like you mentioned, it started off amazingly, I thought he was the one and that I'd had to go through a couple of other bad boyfriends to truly be able to appreciate him. My Chiron also got a tight square from his Nessus - it brought up a lot of my past issues.

posted July 13, 2013 09:24 PM            

This is generational so doesn't really count that much. Venus conj Nessus would as it is personal to you. It conjuncts a personal planet.

Thanks for your kind words. they mean a lot

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posted July 14, 2013 09:34 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
It is? Pfew, quite relieved at least one of them isn't personal. Venus-Nessus, though... Now that scares me. Do you think I could attract abuse this way? Or I'd have to be careful not to take it out on others? I do know I can be harsh when I lose my temper.

And you're welcome Its all still a little confusing to me, so everything helps!

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Well, when Nessus conjuncts the Sun, I would say that the person would be an abuser.

When it conjuncts the Moon, I would say the same.

When it conjuncts the ASC, I would say the same.

When it conjuncts Venus, I suppose one would want to abuse when one was in love?

Does that fit

If any of the above aspects truly found God, they could transmute the Nessus into helping abused people etc.

This is all one man's opinion. Opinions are like noses. Everyone has one and they usually have a few holes in them.

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posted July 16, 2013 12:56 PM            

I've had these meltdowns that made me end up looking like the bad guy, while it was actually me suffering the abuse. The way I took it was bad, bad, bad. Do you think that's an aspect of Nessus?

You mention helping people who were abused... I do meet a lot of people who were in some way. Even in places when I'd never expect it. I listen to them and let them talk, 'cause I know how much it can kill you to go through that and not have someone to talk to about it. Even the strongest, most capable people end up confiding in me about having been abused, stalked, bullied, etc. And they are so sweet, I can't ever understand why anyone would have done that to them.

So yeah, good point on that!

I've just checked the chart of another ex, who stalked me, and yep, Nessus contacts again. His was conjunct my Mars and he had Nessus square Venus natally. Used my friends to get to me, and he hurt me with the way he acted. He had Nessus opposite Dejanira, too, wonder if that's generational again...

Your theory works just a little too well. *gulp* But I hope this all helps you in your research!

Haha, yeah, plus, it'd be boring if we all had the same kind of nose!

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