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Ami Anne
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posted March 29, 2014 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww Fireopal

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posted March 29, 2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to blather on about about my Sun/Uranus opposite 8H Aries Chiron. I have lost male friends & family members through suicide too many times. I know for certain this is my neverending wound. Even though that initial tsunami of grief eventually dwindles down.to a quite stream; it is STILL there. On a lighter note,. Ami, I really appreciate you. You have a big heart and are unfraid to show it.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 29, 2014 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww, Fireopal, I was coming to say that you were not blabbing and then you said that sweet thing to me. I am so touched and you really made my day

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posted April 19, 2014 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Chiron in the 5th house but I'm very creative and I like to have fun at all times. I don't know what happened -.-

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Ami Anne
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posted April 19, 2014 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I have Chiron in the 5th house but I'm very creative and I like to have fun at all times. I don't know what happened -.-

That is unusual. Does your Chiron have some nice trines to the Moon?

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posted April 19, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That is unusual. Does your Chiron have some nice trines to the Moon?


My Chiron does not aspect my Moon. By element and sign, it would be square in a sense (Moon in Cancer and Chiron in Libra).

It is opposite Saturn in the 11th house and is conjunct Mars. It squares Neptune and Uranus (which are conjunct) in the 8th house.

There's only one good aspect, I think. It is trine my Jupiter in the 9th house.

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posted April 19, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trine Jupiter and conj Mars could give it a different energy and maybe overcome the creative issues with Chiron in the 5th

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posted April 19, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking the same thing. Thanks

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posted April 19, 2014 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I was thinking the same thing. Thanks


You are very welcome, my Friend

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posted April 21, 2014 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Chiron in 8th Gemini...I don't relate at all...

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posted April 21, 2014 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cuteleo85:
I have Chiron in 8th Gemini...I don't relate at all...


To me, if someone really cannot relate to the House of Chiron, I would wonder if the time of birth was correct. That is my opinion, anyway

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posted April 30, 2014 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

One of my fave threads

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posted July 17, 2014 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like I now I've found a house where I think my Chiron truly fits.

11th house.

I've always wanted to be part of group, but somehow I always end up watching from sidelines. I just haven't fit in anywhere. I'm just too weird or my interests are weird or stupid. I have hard time making friends, and I've been betrayed by my friends. All those things have been painful for me, and has led me to be really lonely person.
And yes, I've been made fun by different groups or been talked crap about.

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posted July 17, 2014 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok MIL

To me, the house of Chiron is defining in the chart. If someone says it does not fit, I think the time is wrong. I know people disagree with this approach but I don't. I think the House of Chiron should make an exact fit in the life of the native. OK, what is your new chart

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posted July 17, 2014 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok MIL

To me, the house of Chiron is defining in the chart. If someone says it does not fit, I think the time is wrong. I know people disagree with this approach but I don't. I think the House of Chiron should make an exact fit in the life of the native. OK, what is your new chart


Oh, it doesn't change
It stays as same Sag Asc chart I already have. I have Pluto in 12th in that chart, and it's not even conjunct Asc. I have to study that placement more, I feel like I don't understand it properly.
Since you're sort of expert when it comes to 12th house, I'm going to ask you a short interpretation of it.

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posted July 17, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, how would one overcome the problems surrounding Chiron in 1st or Chiron conjunct Ascendant to be more specific?

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posted July 17, 2014 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami, how would one overcome the problems surrounding Chiron in 1st or Chiron conjunct Ascendant to be more specific?

I came across your post by chance. I hope you won't mind Ami if I answer this since I have a lot of experience with Chiron! It squares my ASC, actually. So I empathize with you, @m.blade.

When Chiron makes a hard aspect to your ASC, you'll find you have low self-esteem, a tendency to incur strange injuries, etc., as you probably know. I think the best way to overcome this influence is by accessing Chiron's power in your true, ideal self. The ASC is our outer mask but also our highest, most ideal self. So, you were given the challenges of Chiron to overcome them and become a healing type.

First things first, you cannot feel 'bad' for yourself with Chiron. Chiron is between Uranus and Saturn, so crying and feeling bad for yourself won't work. Secondly, you need to shut up the Saturn side when he becomes annoyingly oppressive and makes you doubt your own beauty. You can master the Saturn side of Chiron by being your own positive reinforcer. Picture your favorite person reinforcing you in your mind and telling you to stop beating yourself up when those bad/negative thoughts come in, especially about the appearance.

Finally, since like me, you're probably gifted at giving advice, learn to take your OWN advice. Don't downfall to this. You deserve your own happiness. Take moments each day to look in the mirror and appreciate who you are. Think and list the good you do for others and the world.

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posted July 17, 2014 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I came across your post by chance. I hope you won't mind Ami if I answer this since I have a lot of experience with Chiron! It squares my ASC, actually. So I empathize with you, @m.blade.

When Chiron makes a hard aspect to your ASC, you'll find you have low self-esteem, a tendency to incur strange injuries, etc., as you probably know. I think the best way to overcome this influence is by accessing Chiron's power in your true, ideal self. The ASC is our outer mask but also our highest, most ideal self. So, you were given the challenges of Chiron to overcome them and become a healing type.

First things first, you cannot feel 'bad' for yourself with Chiron. Chiron is between Uranus and Saturn, so crying and feeling bad for yourself won't work. Secondly, you need to shut up the Saturn side when he becomes annoyingly oppressive and makes you doubt your own beauty. You can master the Saturn side of Chiron by being your own positive reinforcer. Picture your favorite person reinforcing you in your mind and telling you to stop beating yourself up when those bad/negative thoughts come in, especially about the appearance.

Finally, since like me, you're probably gifted at giving advice, learn to take your OWN advice. Don't downfall to this. You deserve your own happiness. Take moments each day to look in the mirror and appreciate who you are. Think and list the good you do for others and the world.


Thank you

I do get those feelings at times of feeling bad for myself knowing it's pointless.

Glad to hear your experience with this placement! I am told I give good advice and my friend always tells me I should take my own advice.

Once again thanks, you've given me much to go over.

All the best

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posted July 18, 2014 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by m.blade:
Thank you

I do get those feelings at times of feeling bad for myself knowing it's pointless.

Glad to hear your experience with this placement! I am told I give good advice and my friend always tells me I should take my own advice.

Once again thanks, you've given me much to go over.

All the best


Thank you. Glad I could help and provide some insights.

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posted July 18, 2014 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you SS. I love your contributions. Please, keep them coming

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posted July 25, 2014 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in Leo in 10th, never felt like I get the recognition I think I deserve and any kind of public opinion/what people think of me hurts, it's like an attack on my ego and sense of self. Everyone gets judged but i feel this x100 times more. Ive been close to misanthropy before, by just hating how the way society/people are. Sometimes I feel like an outcast because I don't want to conform to dumb rules that make me unhappy, I just want to live life how I want without judgement.

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posted July 25, 2014 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting, NS. This makes sense for this Chiron

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posted July 25, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have him in h10 too and I have to say that it has manifested as the opposite of "wound" being super visible. Most people think I am far more confident than I feel, or felt anyway, since I appear to have outgrown most of my selfconsciousness which characterized me when younger. Mostly that was in my teens when most people are selfconscious so I don't really attribute it to Chiron in 10.

To be honest I get more recognition than I ever expected when I step out except:

What I do recognize is that I don't like to be in the spotlight. Cameras and stages and public appearances are minor traumas thru which I have to push. In this one instance the self-consciousness I mentioned persists. Which is troublesome in that for years I was a pro musician who spent most of my time in the spotlight.(small spotlight relatively but..)and that is coming round to me again despite my reluctance as I keep being asked to be a "talking head" about my active career years. But now the quandary for me is that I have a hard time relating to the ME that was THEN, and that is what people want me to talk about NOW that I am someone else lol. My mutable planets (chiron is one)are in revolt!

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posted July 25, 2014 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron conj the MC is visible. Just Chiron in the 10th House is not necessarily visible.

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Is it possible that hard aspects to Chiron result in Chiron not manifesting in the way that it's supposed to? It's Square my entire Stellium. I'm sure that my birth time is fairly accurate. It's within a couple minutes, which isn't enough to shift it out of the Third House for me. Anyways, I've read on LL that hard aspects to Chiron may be positive. So, is it possible that hard aspects to Chiron might help to alleviate whatever troubles Chiron may bring? I'm not saying that they'd mitigate the troubles completely, but I feel as though they might help greatly.

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