posted July 25, 2014 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by KingofCups:
Is it possible that hard aspects to Chiron result in Chiron not manifesting in the way that it's supposed to? It's Square my entire Stellium. I'm sure that my birth time is fairly accurate. It's within a couple minutes, which isn't enough to shift it out of the Third House for me. Anyways, I've read on LL that hard aspects to Chiron may be positive. So, is it possible that hard aspects to Chiron might help to alleviate whatever troubles Chiron may bring? I'm not saying that they'd mitigate the troubles completely, but I feel as though they might help greatly.

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I would think the opposite, KIng. The square locks in energy, to me.

I don't see someone changing a square. I think one has to work around it.

To me, I would think that the aspect you describe may feel like you have a pain core that you can't seem to incorporate into your personality so it kind of sits off on it's own.

Things pushed away never die but ask to be heard so you may feel stuck and not know how to deal with this.

Does this fit?

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posted July 25, 2014 08:58 PM            

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posted July 28, 2014 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by KingofCups:
I'm sorry in advance if this post derails this thread.

Catalina: By any chance, is the date February 21, 2012 significant to you?

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I'm cool, King. Threads can go where they want. That comes from being mutable and having an earth void, too

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posted July 28, 2014 07:41 PM            

21.02.2012...or 02.21.2012...the first is a palindrome I think would remember it if it also had a meaningful significance but memory is so selective/subjective isn't it?

posted July 31, 2014 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I am female, have chiron in the 10th and have been hurt by my fathers (both step and bio dad) and think that I did not make in society (no matter how many tell me that I did)

Apart from that Chiron conjuncts vesta quintiles my sun and asc. Does anyone have an interpretation for that pattern?

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Hi E

Thanks for your report. That is how I learn. Yes, it is the feeling one did not make it in society. One may HAVE made it but one does not feel it. I will be back to try to answer the rest of your question,E.

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posted July 31, 2014 08:15 AM              

you are very welcome. I also learn a lot from your reports.

posted July 31, 2014 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I am female, have chiron in the 10th and have been hurt by my fathers (both step and bio dad) and think that I did not make in society (no matter how many tell me that I did)

Apart from that Chiron conjuncts vesta quintiles my sun and asc. Does anyone have an interpretation for that pattern?

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Forgot to come back, E! You will be able to use your pain in such a way that it will go along with a talent(s) you have such as writing, for example.

You will be able to express this in your daily life and most likely your career, too.

Hope that helps, E

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posted July 31, 2014 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Hi A

you are very welcome. I also learn a lot from your reports.

Another one : 2 of my very best friends have chiron in the 5th house. I think they are creative (ok, I am not objective). Both of them try hard to make their livings in creative fields but have not been able to do so yet. And both of them are quite unable to enjoy life and rather disuss their emotional issues. Also, one of them does not want to have any children.

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Thanks E!

I see Chiron in the 5th as not being able to let down your adult guard and let your inner child play.

That would KILL me as I play all the time

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posted July 31, 2014 04:06 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Forgot to come back, E! You will be able to use your pain in such a way that it will go along with a talent(s) you have such as writing, for example.

You will be able to express this in your daily life and most likely your career, too.

Hope that helps, E

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posted July 31, 2014 04:29 PM            

Kiss on cheeks right back at you

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posted August 08, 2014 09:54 AM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The more I do charts, the more profound and powerful a planet Chiron shows itself to be. I think Chiron is the ruler of Virgo. I think Mercury is the sole Ruler of Gemini. However, that is not the point of this article. I want to give a brief run down of Chiron in the Houses, so you can find yours. Tell me what you think, too, as always!

Chiron in the Houses

First–– Having something painful that shows on your person like a scar or deformity. This will tend to draw bullying from weak people( and we know there are enough of them) Chiron conjunct the ASC always seems to be bullying.

Second–—Money Problems. Material security is the greatest wound

Third–Problems with Communication. This could be a Learning Disability like ADD, extreme shyness or stuttering etc

Fourth–Pain with the Mother. The early childhood home was very painful.

Five—Play is very Hard. Being Creative is very hard. The Person can’t let go and have Fun.

Six-–Health Issues or Feeling One has Nothing to Give Others in Service.

Seven–Pain in Marriage. Pain in committed Relationships

Eight–Feeling one has to be better than human. Feeling one cannot face one’s taboo emotions and sexuality.

Nine--Pain Upon Trying To Find God. This may be Pain in Higher Education and Travel. I have seen it in people who were not able to get a higher education but really wanted one. I have seen it in people who moved to a foreign country and had a very hard time with it.

Ten-–Pain in Career( for men) The person feels he has not made it in society. For men and woman, it is a feeling that one does not fit in.

Eleven–Pain with Groups. One May have been Made Fun of in Groups. This pain lasts into later life.

Twelve–Hidden Pain. These people may get upset when YOU show your pain because theirs may be buried deeply so deeply that they have a very hard time accessing it.[b] When people bury things, they get angry when other people exhibit them

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Just reading it made me feel so sad. I feel like crying. (Pisces ascendant)

I have chiron just 2-3 degrees near my 8th house cusp, so I consider it in the 8th house.

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posted August 08, 2014 01:12 PM              

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It really touched you, Mia. Tell me about it

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I feel the same way you described. I don't feel comfortable talking about taboo topics (chiron in 8th house). I was psychologically manipulated when I went outside my homeland. They of course didn't realize they were doing it.

I think pluto in 9th house has a part in it too.

I'm not old enough yet to know/or had experienced chiron in 8th house but it make me kind of scared or the future.

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posted August 09, 2014 07:21 AM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How old are you, Mia? Yes, Chiron in the 8th is one of the harder ones because life is essentially understood at the primal level, when you get right down to it imo

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I see. I'm 16. x

posted August 28, 2014 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The more I do charts, the more profound and powerful a planet Chiron shows itself to be. I think Chiron is the ruler of Virgo. I think Mercury is the sole Ruler of Gemini. However, that is not the point of this article.

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I always thought that.