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Lioness
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posted December 04, 2010 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can some one explain the 12th house overlay from one person to another.. please..

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PlutoSquared
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posted December 04, 2010 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what you mean is in synastry charts, when Person A's planets fall into Person B's chart?

Or, a composite reading where planets are stored in the 12th house?

Regardless, the energy is similar in the sense that the 12th house is the house of isolation, spiritual, subconscious, things that are hidden...

It is a house that is felt spiritually and intuitively, rather than the like the blasting, upfront energy of the 1st house.

So, what happens if your Venus falls into someone's 12th house? Perhaps you interact romantically more on a spiritual and unseen level, in some sort of hidden way.

If your Moon falls into someone's 12th house? Perhaps you will dredge up hidden emotional patterns and hardwiring from your partner's 12th house. The person will identify your emotions in a hidden, and perhaps subconscious way...

Apply the energy in respects to the energy of your partner's house. Think of these energies as interacting "people"... what kind of conversation would they have?

The 12th house is a difficult house to have loaded with planets in synastry & composites, because it subdues the ego and direct drive of romantic relationships, and instead makes them aware of energies that have been hidden, even to themselves.

Hope this helps!

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posted December 04, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to add that the 12th house is the house of Pisces who is ruled by the planet Neptune.

The 12th house is the last house, Pisces is the last sign in the zodiac.

It represents the evolved human existence, one that has been released from the bonds of ego and is ready to pass on to death, and even be reborn.

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NickiG
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posted December 04, 2010 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my sun conjuncts my sisters saturn in her 12th house exactly and i can say this much, she severely inhibits me

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lunatic
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posted December 06, 2010 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to ask you if someone's saturn falls to my 12th house and squares my sun, sounds too bad??

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Lioness
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posted December 16, 2010 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I think what you mean is in synastry charts, when Person A's planets fall into Person B's chart?

Or, a composite reading where planets are stored in the 12th house?

Regardless, the energy is similar in the sense that the 12th house is the house of isolation, spiritual, subconscious, things that are hidden...

It is a house that is felt spiritually and intuitively, rather than the like the blasting, upfront energy of the 1st house.

So, what happens if your Venus falls into someone's 12th house? Perhaps you interact romantically more on a spiritual and unseen level, in some sort of hidden way.

If your Moon falls into someone's 12th house? Perhaps you will dredge up hidden emotional patterns and hardwiring from your partner's 12th house. The person will identify your emotions in a hidden, and perhaps subconscious way...

Apply the energy in respects to the energy of your partner's house. Think of these energies as interacting "people"... what kind of conversation would they have?

The 12th house is a difficult house to have loaded with planets in synastry & composites, because it subdues the ego and direct drive of romantic relationships, and instead makes them aware of energies that have been hidden, even to themselves.

Hope this helps!


I can reply!! yah!! lol

Yes the 12th house synastry has been especially hard for me, with an added Composite of Moon conjunct Pluto...

I think the reason why its been hard, is because I have felt things I have never felt before.. Im not an outright emotional person.. I really really had to dig deep to figure out what I am feeling.. Thats very confusing when you cant understand your own feelings... I dont even think I have totally figured it out.. Maybe Im half way there...
I did have to do this alone.. Yes he would just "say" things that had a really big effect.. He really has no clue about the questions he would ask.... I would run off, and I would have to sit and think about the answer... It sent me into an emotional spiral.. It even effected my health in a way.. I wasnt eating, plus my hormones went out of balance.. I felt as if I lost control of myself..

Im past that part now, but Im still trying to understand some of the feelings....

but I do NOW know what I want in a relationship, and what I need to make me happy.. what I want to feel.. I dont see myself, giving in to some one that doesnt give me a certain level of intensity and passion.

sighhhhhh...... Its been a long year!!!

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maira
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posted December 17, 2010 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness, I forgot, were his planets in your 12th, or the other way around?

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Lioness
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posted December 17, 2010 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His planets are in my 12th

His Sun,Mercury,Mars,Ceres,Vesta,SN..

His Mercury is close to my Asc though

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ash
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posted January 07, 2011 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lunatic:
I would like to ask you if someone's saturn falls to my 12th house and squares my sun, sounds too bad??

I wud like to knw tis too since someone I knw has my Vir Sat in his 12th house. Does it mean I wl be stirring a feeling of guilt in him or maybe hint of abandonment etc etc?.. Anyone?

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Randall
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posted February 13, 2011 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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