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From: nevada
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posted December 11, 2004 07:25 AM            

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Hi Fox,
This is your thread sweetie, The one we'll be working from. Nice chart, you have a see-saw chart which means a lot of oppositions. We'll get to this a little later. For right now lets concentrate on your Virgo Ascendant

(Sasha Fenton)

This sign is mutable, which implies flexibility of mind, and is an Earth sign, which suggests practicality, while also being feminine / negative in nature, which implies introversion. Virgo rising is a sign of long ascension, which means that there are plenty of you around.

One of the questions on my research questionnaire asked 'Would you like to have your childhood over again?' All but one of the Virgo rising respondents repled 'No, definitely not!' The only one who gave a 'yes' answer had her rising sign on the Virgo / Libra cusp. This is such a difficult ascendant to be born with that if your childhood was abnormally happy I'd suggest that you re-check your birth time!

Your parental home may have been comfortable or it may have been spartan, but whether your family was rich or poor, its attitude to the spending of money was probably frugal. This is assuming that you were brought up in a normal nuclear family. It is possibly that you spent time being looked after by other poeple. And if your parents were particularly difficult, this could have been a blessing in disguise. It is quite common for a Virgo rising subject to have quite a good relationship with his mother but a difficult one with his father. In some cases, the father takes delight in tormenting or bullying the Virgo rising child. I'm not saying that all Virgo rising children go through this kind of experience, but it is not that uncommon. In some cases, the father loves the child unreservedly but the mother cannot see any good in him (or more probably her) which leads to the child growing up under a constant barrage of criticism, knowing that whatever she does, she is never going to win her mother's approval. Not every case is as extreme as this, but the chances are that if you have this sign on the ascendant, you would have been on the receiving end of totally unfair and undeserved ill-treatment at the hands of others - most probably from just the people you should have been most able to trust.

Your parents were probably quite dutiful in their attitude towards you, making sure that you had your practical needs catered for. If they did this out of a sense of obligation rather than genuine affection, you would have been aware of this and you may even have felt guilty for putting them to the trouble of looking after you! You were expected to conform to a set of rules and regulations and to be clean and tidy at all times with polished shoes and straight, unwrinkled socks. Your school may also have been over-disciplined with too much emphasis on stuffy rules. I recall one Virgo rising lady telling me that she remembered being severely punished at school for turning up with the wrong-coloured ribbons in her hair - and all this at the age of seven!

Your parents expected you to do well at school, to behave perfectly and to maintain a position at the top of the class at all times. This constant pressure and the unremitting requirement for you to be perfect at everything (except maybe for those subjects they themselves felt were unnecessary) could have left you rigid with nerves and shyness, and prey to all kinds of nervous ailments. On the positive side, you had access to books, educational aids and extra-curricular activities. You were encouraged to read and to learn; and if you are typical of the sign, you probably got the hang of this quite early on. Your well-behaved manner endeared you to teachers, and your modesty was inoffensive to other children. You probably didn't try hard to make or keep friends, being happiest in your own company with your pets; nor did you take much interest in any of hte contemporary fads and fancies in which the other children were involved.

You have a surprisingly stubborn and uncompromisingly selfish streak which may not be immediately obvious to others. Your survival instincts are strong, endowing you with a knack of appearing to be accommodating while actually you are pleasing yourself. You may have developed into an eccentric and uncompromising adult, preferring to live and work alone or among your pet animals. This may be the result of the unfair and unreasonable treatment you suffered as a child, or it may be something which is purely a product of your personality. Some Virgo rising children actually resist love and affection, behaving so oddly and in such an offensive manner that nobody can really take to them.

Some Virgo rising subjects grow up in an overbearing religious atmosphere where fear of God is added to the fear of what the neighbours think. (This is especially so when the fourth house is Sagittarius.) One Virgo rising friend of mine grew up in a Salvation Army family where everything was made subservient to religion.

Virgo rising subjects are good-looking as a rule, especially if they are born with a fairly late degree of the sign rising. You are probably a little taller than average, with a long, slim, well-defined face and large, pale eyes. All this has to be considered alongside racial differences and the influences of the rest of the chart. Typical subjects have a cheery smile and an intelligent sense of humour which shines out of the eyes. Your complexion is pale, even in the Summer, because you haven't the patience to waste time lolling around in the sun. You may be a little overweight or even thin with a bit of a pot-belly, but your above-average height and your good posture allows you to get away with this.

Your outer manner is polite, formal and a little guarded. You can hang back and be shy on first meeting, especially in new social circumstances, but you soon warm up when you relax. Unless the rest of the chart is made up of pure 'pudding', your mind is very sharp and you can be surprisingly intuitive. You always appear condident and capable; the very image of the perfect purchasing officer, secretary or nurse. Being shy, you may also appear to be a little stand-offish on first acquaintance, and you prefer to let others do the talking, while you assess the people and the situation around you. When you're at ease, of course, you can talk the hind legs off a donkey. You are usually very smartly dressed, in an up-to-date manner with stylish and slightly unconventional clothing.

This is a contradictory and complicated sign to describe; the repressive childhood can leave a legacy of shyness and poor self-esteem which may never be overcome, although there are others who, perhaps because they have several planets in less inhibited signs, can achieve a good deal of wordly success in later life. The earthiness of this sign makes you practical, capable and good with your hands. You may be an excellent gardener or decorator, or a terrific cook. I have come across Virgo rising subjects whose daily life is spent in high-level business negotiations but whose private pastimes are cooking and gardening. The energies of this sign are directed to both the hands and the mind, therefore you bring craftsmanship to all your tasks, and the orderliness of your mind suggests that you go about things in a logical and sensible manner. Your home and your workplace may be untidy, but they are probably clean and fairly systemactic.

You need a stable family environment, especially if you suffered from the usual Virgoan emotional poverty during your childhood. Many Virgo rising subjects marry and bring up children while they are quite young. You cope with early responsibility of this kind very well. If you are lucky with your choice of partner, you will grow in confidence, going on to lead a happy, if rather ordinary, life. You take marriage seriously, and your desire to serve the needs of others suggests that you put a lot of effort into relationships. It may be hard for you to express affection openly because you find it easier to show your love by doing things for your family rather than by any show of sloppy sentimentality. As a parent, you may be fussy and inclined to worry too much about your children's health or with their behaviour, but your love for them is genuine and very generously given. Under the best of circumstances, you can put right the wrongs of your own childhood and become a truly successful relater. If you are not so lucky in your choice of partner, you will continue to suffer the kinds of injustices which you endured in your childhood.

Having harped on rather sanctimoniously about Virgoans' undoubted worth as caring and responsible family members, I will now bring us all back to earth. You are saved from being a complete stuffed-shirt or a self-righteous bore by your habit of unfaithfulness! Even though you are an exemplary person in most ways, you can be 'slippery' in personal relationships.

Your generosity and kindness leads you to offer help to others, either directly by working in one of the caring professions, or on a spare-time basis. Virgo-rising subjects can be found in the Scout movement, in nursing, as ambulance drivers, as committe members, and as astrological counsellers. You are an early riser and a hard and conscientious worker; you even take your spare time duties seriously. You can be surprisingly ambitious, but you might find it difficult to progress if you bog yourself down with too much detail, worry too much about what other people think of you, or allow your shyness to hold you back. Once you overcome these problems, you can aim very high and your success is often aided by your intuitive understanding of the motives of others and a quick grasp of the political situation in your workplace.

You are hard on yourself, being very self-critical; and if you find yourself misjudging a situation or coming out with an inappropriate remark, you may punish yourself silently for days afterwards. You also worry far too much about things which just aren't worth worrying about. If there were going to be a change in management at your workplace, you would worry yourself sick. Your dreams would be filled with sackings and applications to the social security office.

Virgoans are naturally rather secretive, and are also subtle thinkers; therefore, you can handle sensitive and confidential matters very well. Emotionally you are withdrawn. The Virgo rising child who lowered his eyes in silent shame when being harangued by an adult may later turn into a self-contained and secretive adult. If too much pain goes inwards, it will re-emerge later in nervous ailments or old-womanish fussiness. Even if you are well-adjusted to life, you will have perfectionist habits somewhere along the line. Your own personal standards are high, and you expect too much of yourself and sometimes also of others.

Many Virgoans are funny about food. You may have become a vegetarian years ago, long before it was fashionable; or you may follow some kind of religion which prohibits normal eating. You may simply be choosy, only liking certain kinds of food, or foods which are cooked in a particular way. One Virgo rising friend of mine will eat almost anything - as long as it is cooked and prepared to gourmet standards!

Your faults are small but irritating for others to live with; for example, you may drive yourself and otehrs to distraction by worrying needlessly about some small problem. The feminine / Earth aspects of Virgo certainly give you practicality, but the sign's ruler, Mercury, makes you quick to change your mind and your moods, thereby making it hard for other people to understand you.

You need to spend time alone, to think and to relax your taut nerves. You may take up some sport or hobby because you think it will be 'good for you', but you soon become bored with it because you enjoy mental stimulation far more than the physical kind. You can sink into pettiness and old-womanish ways if you are not careful. However, this will be alleviated if you have some Fire influence on your birthchart.

The opposite point to the ascendant is the descendant or the cusp of the seventh house. Traditionally, this is supposed to show the kind of person to whom you are attracted. When Virgo is rising, the descendant is Pisces, and this nebulous sign may bring difficulties in relationships. You may attract people who are out of the ordinary or even somewhat peculiar. It seems as if this descendant is trying to compensate for your down-to-earth attitude to life by throwing a spanner in the works just where you least need one. You may find yourself attached to a partner who drinks or, worse still, is mentally unstable. To some extent it is your desire to help and to reform others which may land you in this pickle. You may fall for someone whose superficial appearance hides weaknesses, an inability to relate or even a cruel streak.

On the plus side, you could attract gentle, rather mystical types who want to care for and serve the needs of the family, just as you do. You seek kindness in a partner, and will act kindly and charitably towards him / her. You can be happy with a partner who is musical, artistic and caring as long as he / she also pulls his / her weight at work and at home. You can put up with a lot, just as long as your partner is basically decent and honest. You, yourself, can be decent and totally reliable matters, but potentially unfaithful sexually. Here we go again with those Virgoan contradictions.

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posted March 29, 2005 08:03 PM              

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Thanks Lala, I feel terribly rude for not responding to this post earlier but I had forgotten that I had asked for a reading. Once again thanks for your time and the interpretation.

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posted May 04, 2005 06:40 AM              

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Hi Lala, If you aren't too busy I'm keen to learn more about my chart, like how having a see saw chart affects me. Thanks

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