posted April 13, 2012 03:35 PM            

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posted April 13, 2012 04:25 PM            

Yes, the conjunction is in the 9th house. It is very close...about 1 degree exactly.

It has been very troublesome to me. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I am very different from my mother, and have had many maternal issues. But at the same time, it is a source for my creative material, and I feel I can heal and reach out to others who have felt alone in their families. I think my career will be based on these feelings that I have, or else these feelings will spur me onward to do well in my career?

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posted April 13, 2012 06:27 PM            

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posted April 13, 2012 06:39 PM            

Perhaps this sounds selfish of me...but I have always felt distant from my mother and I hate how she is. I hate her personality and how clownish and temperamental she is. It makes me nauseated thinking of all the terrible things she has said to me, and how she has mistreated me terribly. She has a lot of mental and psychological issues, and does not want to get help. She's borderline histrionic, and definitely narcissistic. I've always felt like her friend, not her daughter.

I've always had a difficult time accepting that she is my mother.

posted April 14, 2012 06:27 AM            

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posted April 14, 2012 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Yes Ami... I hate to sound like I am holding a pity party here, but I am deeply pained by my maternal relationships...

Perhaps this sounds selfish of me...but I have always felt distant from my mother and I hate how she is. I hate her personality and how clownish and temperamental she is. It makes me nauseated thinking of all the terrible things she has said to me, and how she has mistreated me terribly. She has a lot of mental and psychological issues, and does not want to get help. She's borderline histrionic, and definitely narcissistic. I've always felt like her friend, not her daughter.

I've always had a difficult time accepting that she is my mother.

I unconsciously seek out other women to act as mothers to me, when I have the chance. It's bizarre, but it can make me feel better... to have a woman take care of me and love me the way I felt my mom never did. I've even gotten attached to my dental assistant before because of how nurturing she was to me! She was a very maternal woman, and even knew I was upset before I said a word when I went into the office once... she even put her hand against my forehead and got worried about me! It was sad enough to make me feel like crying. I just want to unburden myself to a maternal person, but never can. I feel my mother is my enemy. It made me really sad being around someone like that, who was maternal and talked to me in a sweet voice, because my mother has rarely done that for me my entire life.

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Oh My Goodness. I have the same feeling to my mother.It is NOT a pity party. The first step to health is facing the truth.One will never be healthy without it. Moon conj Chiron is a heavy, heavy aspect. We will deal with it. You can say anything to me. I have moaned about my mother on LL so much that people wanted to stuff me into the incinerator

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posted April 14, 2012 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Thanks for being so understanding. I'm very sorry you've had similar problems... knowing the pain this has put me through, I always feel intense empathy for other people who have felt rejected, neglected or distant from their mothers or their families.

I agree, I think focusing on how to handle this aspect and just talking about it could be an eye-opener for me. I now know some basics about it from research... but I wonder how it is going to influence my career and other things, since my Moon conjuncts my MC. :'I

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My Moon conjuncts my MC too but i don't have Chiron there. I think your pain will be seen by others. I know this sounds daunting but it doesn't need to be. Many famous people were loved because they showed their pain to others and as such were a voice for those who had no voice. I think of Oprah Winfrey talking about sexual abuse or betty Ford talking about alcoholism. Right now, a dear man has come into my life with moon conj Chiron conj the MC as you have. His mother was bed ridden for 20 years and he took care of her. She was a double amputee. He lost his mother and father last year. He has been such a blessing to me as he had 4 NDEs (near death experiences) and he is so beautiful from this. Later, I will show you some of the things he has written. He is a very,uniquely beautiful man.I think the Moon conjunct the MC makes it impossible for us to hide our hearts. I am both loved and disliked for this. I lead with my heart due to the Moon conj the MC. It is our nature. The chart will show us our nature. This,we can begin to accept it

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posted April 14, 2012 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

My Moon conjuncts my MC too but i don't have Chiron there. I think your pain will be seen by others. I know this sounds daunting but it doesn't need to be. Many famous people were loved because they showed their pain to others and as such were a voice for those who had no voice. I think of Oprah Winfrey talking about sexual abuse or betty Ford talking about alcoholism. Right now, a dear man has come into my life with moon conj Chiron conj the MC as you have. His mother was bed ridden for 20 years and he took care of her. She was a double amputee. He lost his mother and father last year. He has been such a blessing to me as he had 4 NDEs (near death experiences) and he is so beautiful from this. Later, I will show you some of the things he has written. He is a very,uniquely beautiful man.I think the Moon conjunct the MC makes it impossible for us to hide our hearts. I am both loved and disliked for this. I lead with my heart due to the Moon conj the MC. It is our nature. The chart will show us our nature. This,we can begin to accept it

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I totally agree that the Moon aspecting the MC means you cannot hide your heart and your true self on the job.

As someone who desires to make a difference creatively, I feel this is rather a good thing than a bad thing for me. I know my job will not be clear-cut and extremely logical. A lot of my work will be influenced by emotion and pure feeling, and a high degree of creativity. I feel lucky to have my Moon touch on so many other places in my chart. It makes harmonious aspects to my 11th house planets, 2nd house planets, MC, and Lilith. I feel my Moon can bring me a lot of power perhaps to generate something for my un-aspected Sun.

What you said is so true for me... since having the urge to become a celebrity of some kind, I knew I would be reaching out to others who were traumatized, alone, sad and afraid, and rejected in some way. I love the examples you gave. Maybe having Chiron on the MC will help me somehow. Maybe it will make other people feel sympathy for me... though I don't require that. But as you said, it is very hard with the Moon ALONE on the MC to hide your heart in your public standing. With Chiron here, also square my ASC, I feel that people will see me as a damaged person but one to feel empathy for, who can help others through my own pain.

I feel that in life, I was destined to feel some degree of pain from certain things because this will somehow have me help others who suffer from similar issues. I once wrote a poem with lines that said:

'Everything I have been denied,
I will give it back to you.'

posted April 15, 2012 02:28 PM            

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