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doommlord Moderator Posts: 1331 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 10, 2012 07:05 PM
here ya goThe nature and quality of your relationships, marriage, and partnerships are important and emphasized; and your experience of these will be influenced by feelings and needs. Feelings of security and well-being are sought from a partner; and you may believe that security comes from togetherness and companionship. This encourages yoursearch for a fulfilling intimate relationship. There is a danger that these needs will dominate other vlid concerns, such as real compatibility, or tend to unbalance a relationship through either dependency or domination. Wanting to 'belong' to someone is not a suitable attitude for an evolving relationship. Nobody is a possession; and this may make you vulnerable to abuse and exploitation by a less solicitous partner. You need to look clearly at your deeper needs. Just what do you want in a partner? Do you even recognize what your needs actually are? What is essential for you to receive from another in order for you to feel nurtured? What can you offer to a partner; and is that what he or she needs? Are you looking for a surrogate mother or father figure, capable of protecting your hidden child-nature and making all the important choices for you? Do you adjust your will, emotions, feelings, and desires in order to accommodate those of a partner? Is your identity dependent on a partner, or can you stand alone? Is your focus on satisfying your partner, even at the expense of your own needs? You will be highly sensitive to others and, if unprotected, this could diminish your emotional stability. As you are liable to experience emotional fluctuation anyway - through moodiness, inconsistent feelings, and restless impulses - additional external influences can only exacerbate this tendency. Yet you will continue to look for emotional sustenance through relationships, as you believe a search is necessary to discover a suitable partner. Resolving your dependency need and learning to respect your needs as equally important in a balanced relationship may prove to be a key for future success. (Stephanie Camilleri) Here the Moon gives a hunger for response. The life may seem to be fated, or strongly marked by destiny. People with the Moon here, opposite the Ascendant and square the Midheaven, often seem to struggle all their lives against a tide of circumstance that forces them into the same kind of situation over and over. This is wearying, but develops emotional strength. Others do not struggle against the tide of destiny, but learn to flow with it. They may avoid much suffering in this way, but also may not develop as much emotionally and spiritually. People with this Moon are very aware of and sensitive to public opinion. They often wish they could change themselves and be more what others seem to want them to be. Sometimes it works the other way, and they become very defensive of their individuality. They have a strong feeling for the needs and desires of the public and, given other factors, can achieve success as a public figure or a performer. Even if they do no rise to a level where they can address the public and manipulate them, they may have a sense of public destiny, an inner call to serve the public in some way. Usually they develop a strong personal style in response to the sensation of being the focus of public attention. Where other chart factors show a public career, this position gives a big push towards success. These people feel married to the public, and often have a hard time with personal relationships as their true partner is their audience or constituency. With the Moon in Capricorn, there may be a Peter Pan complex - a rejection of the ugliness and phoniness of adult behavior, a clinging to the purity and values of childhood. These people often become teachers or counselors of children, or work with them or for them in some way. It takes them much longer to grow up than others, and they shouldn't marry young. Sometimes they never marry.A seventh-house Moon gives a special emphasis to the relationship with the mother. In some cases, she is gone early in life (dies or deserts), so that they spend the rest of their lives seeking a substitute. Or she may acquire too much control over their lives, in some cases becoming their only true partner. Other factors will tell which variation is more likely (absence of death of the father, for example). These people are not usually successful in attempts to choose a mate; usually they are chosen by others. There can be many strange and fateful circumstances surrounding their mating. If they feel they are being forced to marry against their will or have doubts about the marriage, they should certainly wait until they feel more positive because it is probable that marriage won't be good for them under the circumstances. In a woman's chart, this lunar placement may be a partial testimony to homosexuality, bisexuality, or homosexual episodes, because the powerful need for feminine love and affection causes them to keep seeking it until they find it. Mothers of children with a seventh-house Moon should be aware of the difficulties that can follow a lack of physical affection in childhood, particularly the first four years. At the same time, they must be careful not to cling to this child as he / she grows older, but give him / her the freedom he / she needs to learn through trial and error to make the right choice of his / her own companions. (Bill Herbst) Mirrored awareness: In the 7th house, the Moon reveals that relationships are the vehicle to awareness of your needs. They are not an end in themselves, but the means. If you succumb to the pitfall of believing that others are the actual source of your fulfillment, then you remain a child, seeking out only partners who reflect the real or idealized qualities of your mother. Your challenge is to let the awareness that comes through relatedness awaken sensitivity to your needs, so you can then fulfill them for yourself. Whenever you lose touch, move back into relatedness for more stimulation. Alone and together ebb and flow. Discover what you need with us, through us, then take care of yourself. Equal partnerships: Unlike the Sun's meaning in the 7th, where simple existence of a relationship is often enough to fuel the self, the Moon's significance is radically different. Mere existence is not enough; here there must be regular and frequent contact with the partner, a kind of 'checking in' to reestablish the feeling of secure togetherness. The pitfall involves creating dependencies in partnership. Too much regularity or predictability may seem wonderful, but it is also a very addictive 'emotional drug'. The challenge is to create working partnerships that are both stable in structure and flowing in content. Self-protection is always a double-edged sword; keep your sword with you, but be awake - don't cut yourself with it. Contracts, commitments: Your commitments are not mental experiences, but reasonable, well-thought-out decisions. This is not to say that you misunderstand commitment or enter into relationships out of faulty motives. rather, it indicates that the natural reasons for commitment are emotional, based on deep feeling. Commitments change over time as your needs for security, certainty, and support grow toward maturity. If your needs are not being met, then by all means change your commitments by altering their level or their form; but remember also that a promise is not something to be taken lightly. Co-operation: What passes for co-operation is often compliance or caretaking. You are so hungry for shared experience that you sometimes are willing to give in. This is compliance, and in the extreme leads to a collapse of sharing as you gradually retreatinto a defensive shell. Taking care of your partner - or vice versa - can be natural and loving, but it can also be habitual and deeply unconscious. True co-operation is the experience of willingly mutual support based on good-faith negotiations, with each person taking care of him or herself. The fact that a healthy relationship helps fulfill your most basic emotional wishes and makes you feel good is reason enough to learn to co-operate well. Natural partner or partnership: Your natural partner is a very emotional person, perhaps even moody. He or she gladly responds to your true needs, and expects you to do the same, but does not prey upon you by fostering dependency in either direction. Your mate willingly shows you his or her innermost softness, even if it is shown to no-one else. A natural partnership has an emotional immediacy, a here-and-now presence. The relationship reveals something universal about emotion. Though you must guard against the tendency to become overly dependent upon the partnership for safety and support, the relationship teaches you a great deal about the validity of those needs, and the importance of creating a vehicle for their fulfillment. The image is a clear stream, surrounded by woods of lush, dense foliage. (Robert Pelletier) You have a deep need for meaningful contacts with people at the personal level. You often make concessions to allow these relationships to develop, and you maintain a low profile to avoid being rejected. You sometimes feel that people are not interested in you, which isn't true, of course, but it would be hard to convince you otherwise. Your initial discomfort about being with others in a social environment will change as you learn to express yourself more freely. Being a good listener will give way to actively participating in conversation, which will show that you have many creative ideas to share. You might suffer some disappointment in marriage if you imagine that it will provide the key to all of your dreams and expectations. Certainly this is possible, if you and your mate have a sincere desire to understand each other and can make allowances for each other's imperfections. You will face life and its abrasions more easily if you have a formal education. Because you are so sensitive to the highs and lows of your daily affairs, you must learn to be more objective about life. Finding a suitable career may be a problem, but you should consider an occupation that brings you into close contact with the public. Your compassion for people's problems and your willingness to offer assistance qualifies you for this type of work. You like people, and you don't hesitate to tell them so when they win your approval. You hope they feel the same way about you, because you are so anxious to have people like you. Your greatest liability is that you are too closely tied to your family, so it is difficult for you to meet people objectively in social situations. In your desire for personal contacts, you might marry early to escape the painful prospect of remaining in your parents' limited environment. A strong mothering urge is always at work in the background of your consciousness, so that you want to take care of others; but that is not the most desirable motive for marriage. You must gradually detach yourself from the home you grew up in and take your place in society, where you will have greater freedom to choose your destiny without being challenged. You might use your understanding and desire for personal contact in a career that allows you to help people solve their problems. While it is admirable to help those who deserve it, you must always be on guard against people who would abuse the privilege and use you as a doormat. Don't gettoo deeply involved in the affairs of those you serve. The burden might be more painful than you could endure and even affect your health. If you must make sacrifices, do so for the person you share your life with as an investment in a more secure future. You are very talented and can do many things that others can't do. This certainly wins the attention fo possible suitors, who know you will do your share to make a partnership work. If your mate appreciates everything you do and the effort you put into the relationship, you can truly be on a 'high'. You need someone who just cannot do without you, so that you feel important and necessary. (Howard Sasportas) Those with the Moon in the 7th may be over-sensitive or over-adaptive to the needs of the partner, deriving their identity too much from what the other person wants them to be. Conversely, they may be looking for a mother in a mate. Early emotional pattenring around the partner might be projected onto the partner, clouding an objective perception of the here-and-now reality. A host of problems arises if a partner (male or female) is confused with the mother in this way - not to mention the fact that even the thought of sex with the mother is taboo. Marriage may be sought for the security it offers and the promise of a cosy home and family which provide the person with a sense of belonging. The Moon is not that concerned about being a separate individual. Getting married is what most people do - so why shouldn't they follow suit? Hard aspects to the Moon from Saturn or the outer planets may render the fulfilment of these basic desires most difficult: while the Moon in the 7th is definitely inclined towards relationship, other parts of the self may not be so co-operative. The partnership itself may need the kind of nurturing and caring that a small baby would be given. The fluctuating nature of the Moon could manifest in a number of ways. Those with this placement might experience many moods and changes of feelings in connection to the relationship. In some cases, the Moon in the 7th describes a restless, unstable or emotionally idiosyncratic partner. As with any planet in the 7th, the person is advised to reflect on why he or she has attracted those particular qualities in another person. What is the other person 'living out' for him or her? of to my comfy bed GN all IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37379 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 10, 2012 07:06 PM
Great info DL xx------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Junethird Moderator Posts: 2910 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 10, 2012 08:08 PM
quote: ...Natural partner or partnership: Your natural partner is a very emotional person, perhaps even moody. He or she gladly responds to your true needs, and expects you to do the same, but does not prey upon you by fostering dependency in either direction. Your mate willingly shows you his or her innermost softness, even if it is shown to no-one else.A natural partnership has an emotional immediacy, a here-and-now presence...
this was very insightful. It even made me understand my own moon better... Since iam an emotional creature. I dont think I "mother" my mate but i like to fuss and take care of them... but maybe that is one in the same lol How does this placement of the moon relate to fidelity. An air moon? IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1331 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 12:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Junethird: [b] this was very insightful. It even made me understand my own moon better... Since iam an emotional creature. I dont think I "mother" my mate but i like to fuss and take care of them... but maybe that is one in the same lolHow does this placement of the moon relate to fidelity. An air moon?
well looking at the fact the moon is in gemini....fedilety might be a bit problematic cause the need for partnership is mixed wit the need to experience...but i think the scorpio venus makes him ready for commitment ^^ IP: Logged |
Junethird Moderator Posts: 2910 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 12:27 AM
Interesting... I heard virgos are not very faithful either.IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1331 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 08:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Junethird: Interesting... I heard virgos are not very faithful either.
if they ever get married XD (no offence to virgos!) IP: Logged |
Junethird Moderator Posts: 2910 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 02:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by doommlord: if they ever get married XD (no offence to virgos!)
Lol, why are they so hesitant of marriage? What are their fears? IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1331 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 02:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Junethird: Lol, why are they so hesitant of marriage? What are their fears?
I think they are jusr a little pessemistic and always finds faults with others IP: Logged |
Junethird Moderator Posts: 2910 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by doommlord: I think they are jusr a little pessemistic and always finds faults with others
Lol... My mom and gran are both virgos and i suspect my gran is a double virgo lol... Not new to their critique of others. Kinda immune to it IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1331 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Junethird: Lol... My mom and gran are both virgos and i suspect my gran is a double virgo lol... Not new to their critique of others. Kinda immune to it
good...i had to handle one once and it hurted with all the criticism...especially if you love them... IP: Logged |
Junethird Moderator Posts: 2910 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 11, 2012 03:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by doommlord: good...i had to handle one once and it hurted with all the criticism...especially if you love them...
Yes... They are not very refined when Pointing out one's misgivings... IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1331 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted October 11, 2012 11:26 AM
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