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Ami Anne
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posted October 05, 2012 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW I am NOT obsessed, I just have a mission.


Ok, on second thought and more reflection, he seems more Saggi than Taurus.

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posted October 05, 2012 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
found a site with descriptions of physical features of rising signs (and it is not the one we are not meant to quote).


"Aries phys­i­cal traits
This zodiac sign tends to have sharp and dis­tinc­tive phys­i­cal fea­tures. The body is often lean and strong, with large bones, thick shoul­ders, and a long neck. They often have scars (maybe from an old fight) or birth­marks. Strong bone struc­ture, quick move­ments, and an upright pos­ture are phys­i­cal traits asso­ci­ated with Aries zodiac sign. They may tend to glance around the room, as opposed to main­tain­ing a steady gaze."

"Tau­rus phys­i­cal traits
The phys­i­cal appear­ance of Tau­rus can be described in a few words: sturdy body and thick mus­cu­lar legs. Addi­tion­ally, Tau­rus presents phys­i­cal traits such as round face and large eyes which offer a steady gaze. Inter­est­ingly, Peo­ple born under this zodiac sign often have small ears. Another phys­i­cal char­ac­ter­is­tic of Tau­rus is that his/her hair tends toward nat­u­rally curly or wavy. Rul­ing the throat and neck, this phys­i­cal area is often eye-catching (maybe a thick, “bull-like” neck, or per­haps a grace­ful one, but gen­er­ally promi­nent to the observer).
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"Leo phys­i­cal traits
Leos fre­quently have mane-like hair, fram­ing their keen-eyed, well-shaped faces. These natives will have a regal bear­ing, erect pos­ture, and grace­ful move­ments. Move­ments are slow, but dra­matic. Peo­ple born under the Leo zodiac sign have almond eyes, often dark in shade (dark blue, dark green, dark hazel). Their oval face with large eyes and their strong voice com­plete Leo’s phys­i­cal por­trait."

"Libra phys­i­cal traits
Libras pos­sess well-shaped lips and noses, heart-shaped or oval faces. Dim­pled cheeks and cleft chins are some other Libra’s phys­i­cal char­ac­ter­is­tics. They usu­ally have well bal­anced phys­i­cal fea­tures and pleas­ant expres­sions. Libra’s move­ments tend to be grace­ful, and their facial fea­tures tend to be more rounded than angu­lar. Another Libra’s phys­i­cal trait is their clear and melo­di­ous voice. Their faces have char­ac­ter, not nec­es­sar­ily beauty. Their gor­geous smiles and lovely, infec­tious laugh­ter com­plete Libra’s phys­i­cal char­ac­ter­is­tics."

"Sagit­tar­ius phys­i­cal traits
Maybe most notice­able phys­i­cal char­ac­ter­is­tic of Sagit­tar­ius is his/her clumsy grace. These natives are ener­getic and their move­ments are quick. They may lean for­ward when they talk to some­one, get­ting phys­i­cally closer to engage emo­tional close­ness. Some other phys­i­cal traits of Sagit­tar­ius are rep­re­sented by his/her broad fore­heads and cheer­ful expres­sions. Their clear, sparkling eyes often twin­kle with good humor. They some­times play with their hair, mostly uncon­sciously, casu­ally toss­ing their head to sweep it back, or grab­bing a lock and tug­ging at it. One phys­i­cal char­ac­ter­is­tic of Sagit­tar­ius is that he/she might gain exces­sive weight due to the fact that this zodiac sign is ruled by jovial, life lov­ing Jupiter."
http://www.about-zodiac-signs.com/astrological-signs-physical-characteristics.html/

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posted October 05, 2012 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His chart with possible Sag ASC



going through the directions again:


1994: moving to New York
SA ASC semi Jupiter
SA MC semi moon


1996: nominated for an Emmy
SA ASC square Mercury
SA Neptune conjunct ASC

SA Uranus exact conjunct MC
SA Venus sesi MC

2002: the role in "Firefly"
SA MC conjunct Jupiter (he sais it was the biggest fun. lol)
SA VEnus square ASC
SA Sun opposite MC
and of course SA Jupiter square SA Sun

won an award in 2005 for this particular role
nothing major seems to click really so I guess I can start all over again.lol


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posted October 05, 2012 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No water
That would be a toughie. That is the hardest void imo

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posted October 05, 2012 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even his asteroids are mostly air and fire. Except for KARMA and VALENTINE and LUST. Those are 8 Cancer, 5 Pisces and 11 Pisces.

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posted October 05, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i guesss taurus

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posted October 05, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you had much experience with water voids, Ceri?

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posted October 05, 2012 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think Earth void would tougher. But maybe bc I'm an Earth moon and you're a water moon?

How many planets do you have in water, Ami?

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posted October 05, 2012 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a matter of fact the guy who caught much of my attention has a sort-of-Water void (only Uranus in scorpio).
Then again I only have Jupiter and Saturn in water, but they disposit all my personal planets, so I have the water "underneath".

Anyway, as a matter of fact my Dad is a water void (only Uranus in Cancer - and I don´t really count the outers).
Funny, how my Mum has Sun and Mercury in Scorpio, MC in Pisces and ASC in Cancer. lol


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posted October 05, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest I can`t do anything with guys who are "too watery".
A spicy delicious Venus or Mars in Scorpio is wonderful, intense and exciting, but more than that is water-overkill for me.
Especially planets in Cancer. I don´t have anything against them, but it is just not my cup of tea.
ASC in Pisces is pretty common though.

But anyway, I just noticed how my Dad as well as that other guy have an Uranus-singleton. LOL
I can´t conceal it, I do like guys or even people who are a bit zany, crazy and very bright.
I guess my Aqua-Moon really comes out in this preference, hu?

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posted October 05, 2012 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Taurus or Sag, right?
Hmm fixed and fire...

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posted October 05, 2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a water singleton in pluto. so does my best friend. my second best friend, my third best girl friend. my first boyfriend (who is also my current best guy friend)
and the one that got away only has uranus in water.

i have read that only having water in an outer planet would be a water void. and asc/nn don't count. (i have both a scorp asc and nn in pisces)

i could see why dealing with water void people would be harder for watery individuals but not necessarily as hard for the native to deal with themselves perhaps. Then again, maybe because some of the closest people to me are in the same boat - it doesn't present much of an issue. I also have a water moon in my progressed chart and a water sun in my 9th harmonic.

Audience: What happens if you only have one angle and one planet in an element? Is that still an imbalance?

Clare: Yes, there will still be a sense of deficiency that seeks to be balanced. However, in a case like this, there is usually an element of awareness of the imbalance - it is more accessible. When someone has a total lack, it will be immediately obvious to everyone else, but the person with the total lack can be oblivious of the fact.

Audience: What about the outer planets, Chiron, and the Nodes?

Clare: Well, the same thing applies. In charts where only an outer planet, Chiron, or one of the Nodes is in an element, the individual will be expressing the collective charge of that planet or point in its purest, most autonomous and archetypal expression. The particular individual expression of this influence will be experienced in the house in which it occurs.

Audience: I'd really like to get this counting thing straight. I know you only use the seven traditional planets, but do you also count the angles?

Clare: No, because the angles are not planets. For example, if you have Sagittarius rising, then, although your Ascendant is in fire, it is the element of the ruling planet which we will be looking for. I think it is unfortunate that computer programs always include the outer planets in the mode and element count, because this encourages us to think of them in the same way as the seven traditional planets, whereas they belong to another order altogether, to a different dimension. I think we need to count again and to take them out, but that is only my view, and you are welcome to make up your own minds about this.
http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtpt91_e.htm


personally, i wish i had more earth in my chart. i only have an earth moon and neptune. sometimes i wish i was more grounded.

sorry for driving this further off topic, ceri.

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posted October 05, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i watch castle. i guess taurus rising, i couldn't see him being triple fire.. but this is also just a guess. he looks very sturdy to me but he doesn't have a round face like the description. but neither does a taurus rising i know.

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posted October 05, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peachbeigeblue,

yes, I get that, but I have known Leo ASC`s who look quite sturdy as well.
Also even though I could see Taurus rising, it would give him a stelium of Sun, Moon, Mercury in 12th house.
What do you think about that?

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posted October 05, 2012 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and I have only Venus in earth (Capricorn). It is a weird thing. On the one hand I am expressing it clearly, on the other hand I feel like I am lacking earth and a certain grounding in the physical realm.
It is almost as if I do express it, but am not really aware I do, though others often view me as pretty earthy.

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posted October 05, 2012 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh and I have only Venus in earth (Capricorn). It is a weird thing. On the one hand I am expressing it clearly, on the other hand I feel like I am lacking earth and a certain grounding in the physical realm.
It is almost as if I do express it, but am not really aware I do, though others often view me as pretty earthy.

I see you as earthy. I have a question for you, Ceri. I wanted to ask someone this, for a long time. In your case, with a singleton in earth, some people say that could make you MORE earth like. I don't see how that could happen, intuitively. What do YOU think?

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posted October 05, 2012 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I`ve read that, too. The idea behind is that they overcompensate because of a perceived lack. For example someone with Air void might be engaging in intellectual things, reading a lot of books etc etc. because they might think they lack in this regard. So. meone with Air dominance would be naturally drawn to reading all these books, because it is inherent in their nature.

AS for me, I don´t feel I overcompensate my lack of earth, though maybe, on second thought, I do.
I have a strong need for security, and probably that comes from the feeling of not being grounded enough.
I don´t overcompensate by being materialistic though.

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posted October 05, 2012 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh and I have only Venus in earth (Capricorn). It is a weird thing. On the one hand I am expressing it clearly, on the other hand I feel like I am lacking earth and a certain grounding in the physical realm.
It is almost as if I do express it, but am not really aware I do, though others often view me as pretty earthy.

I can relate to this very much as I am technically an earth singleton too. WIth most people, I am the "grounded one" and person they can rely on. I am also triple fixed so I'm sure that attributes to that.


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Peachbeigeblue,

yes, I get that, but I have known Leo ASC`s who look quite sturdy as well.
Also even though I could see Taurus rising, it would give him a stelium of Sun, Moon, Mercury in 12th house.
What do you think about that?



yeah i take that back. hmmmmm aquarius is my next guess.


he kinda reminds me of a couple aqua risings i know. i get the same type of masculinity from him as i get from them

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posted October 06, 2012 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah jason bateman looks like leo rising but this guy doeant tho

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posted October 06, 2012 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His chart with an Aqua ASC (with the fitting directions at life events) would look like this

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posted October 06, 2012 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW Lonake, I was wondering about the strong angular Saturn you were talking about, which this possible ASC (which can be just as wrong as any other guess. lol) does not give. (well only in form of a square of Saturn to ASC, which I am not sure it really fits, given his extrovert talkative way of appearing; though he has pretty clear ideas about boundaries as well, as I noticed in some interviews.)

But if I progress this possible chart to the present it shows:

pr Sun on 16 Taurus
pr ASC on 21 Taurus (conjunct natal Saturn!)

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posted October 08, 2012 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to say Aries, then I saw where his Sun and Moon are . His whole energy in Castle is screaming Aries lol.

But I think Sag rising fits. Smth very outgoing and enthusiastic. No Aqua rising, I don't think it fits - though I may be biased here. But I sense FIRE, lots of FIRE!!! Ohh and I'd love his Asc on my Moon and SN and Neptune.. ughhhhhhhhh!! He's HOT! But most Aries are hehehehehehe!

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posted October 08, 2012 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera,

yes, definitely, totally hot.
I just can`t keep my mind off him. Though not in the "he`s so hot" kinda way.
There`s something that resonates, strongly, which makes me think Sagittarius, too. Cause I usually have these reactions only to SAg risings or people with Sat stellium.

And there I thought Aries guys do not hold that special kind of power over me anymore. SEems there are still some.


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posted October 08, 2012 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just cannot resist that sparkle in their eyes! Indeed, like children (or puppies!), we're so contagious!

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posted October 08, 2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes that is true. It is the mix of the puppy dog charm, the cheekiness and then the fierce protectiveness you Aries people exude. It makes me simply melt. If there is one sign I would not be able to resist (against better knowledge), then it must be ARies.


Speaking of him, what do you think where in Sag would his ASC be?

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