posted November 01, 2012 10:18 AM            

No, neither of my folks were socios! But - I had 2 parents who did not protect me from a sociopath/schizophrenic who abused me sexually, psychologically, spiritually and emotionally. She (yes a woman) was allowed into my home to be lovingly supported and cared for by my father (a pastor) who was asked to help support her re-integration into the community after being in an institution for a while. The threats and manipulations and grooming were such I was terrefied of losing everyone and everything is I spoke and sough emotional support and protection, so I was silent and became a child and then adult that was extremely anxious and serious for many years - until I had PTSD/EMDR counselling that took the sting out of it. As a child I felt quite betrayed that people serving and loving god would put the 'call of god' and church above their family like happened. It felt like a huge betrayal to me... and there you have sedna/sun opposing the lillith/ixion/child stuff... :-)

Ixion/ opposite my sun, and square nodes, sucks.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow wow wow
Just looking at this again. Did you see what I wrote about Ixxion. It is very significant to have it conjunct Child. I asked if you had a parent who was a sociopath

You have Lilith there, which is raw sexuality. Lilith near Ixxion and child is not good. Were you exposed to sexuality too early.
Having these in the 8th house tend to make it such that you had experiences you had to repress, due to pain and trauma.
Am I right. Please, explain. xxx

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posted November 01, 2012 10:20 AM            

Here are the 8 natal scorpio stellium asteroids I found:

Kaali 0' Scorp
Quaoar 2' Scorp
Ixion 5' Scorp
Blck Mn Lillith 6' Scorp
Siren 6' Scorp
Child 7' Scorp
Giza 7' Scorp
Hygeia 10'Scorp

So... here are the orbs... (why do they need to be written out like this Ami Anne if you don't mind me asking? What does it show that just looking at the stellium doesn't?)

Child conjunct Giza (orb 0)
Black moon lillith conjunct Siren (orb 0)
Ixion conjunct Black moon lillith/Siren (orb 1)
Child/Giza conjunct Siren/BMLillith (orb 1)
Ixion conjunct Child/Giza (orb 2)
Kaali conjunct Quaoar (orb 2)
Quaoar conjunct Ixion (orb 3)
Hygeia conjunct Child/Giza (orb 3)
Quaoar conjunct BML/Siren (orb 4)
Hygeia conjunct Siren (Orb 4)
Hygeia conjunct BML (Orb 4)
Quaoar conjunct Child/Giza (orb 5)
Hygeia conjunct Ixion (orb 5)
Kaali conjunct Ixion (orb 5)
Kaali conjunct BML/Siren (orb 6)
Kaali conjunct Child/Giza (orb 7)
Quaoar conjunct Hyagia (orb 8)
Kaali conjunct Hyagia (orb 10)

posted November 01, 2012 10:22 AM            

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posted November 01, 2012 10:31 AM            

I'll do those aspects. Will be interesting to see what is gleaned from those?

<3 <3 <3

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow
Your child asteroid SHOWED all that but I assumed it was your parents but it was your childhood experience-- not necessarily the parents. I learned something about the child asteroid there.
I am so sorry you went through that.
Write down all aspects to your Sun and Moon and we can see the relationship with yout parents.

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posted November 01, 2012 10:34 AM            

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posted November 01, 2012 10:35 AM            

Did you see the extra asteroids in that BML/Ixion/Child stellium I posted above? Are they relevant??? Very curious.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YES There will be many good things! I am just guided by my intuition when I do charts

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posted November 01, 2012 10:39 AM            

I found one GOOD thing today - just saying.

Angelica conjunct Mercury (orb 0).

posted November 01, 2012 11:25 AM            

Sun aspects --->

Sun conjunct sedna (orb 0)
Sun conjunct Diania (orb 1)
Sun sextile Erato (orb 2)
Sun sextile Angel (orb 2)
Sun trine jupiter (orb 6)
Sun square NN (orb 2)
Sun square SN (orb 2)
Sun square vertex (orb 0)
Sun square anti-vertex (orb 0)
Sun opposite Quaoar (orb 0)
Sun opposite Kaali (orb 2)
Sun opposite Ixion (orb 3)
Sun opposite Blck Mn Lillith (orb 4)
Sun opposite Siren (orb 4)
Sun opposite Child (orb 5)
Sun opposite Giza (orb 5)
Sun semi-sextile Saturn (Orb 3)
Sun quincunx Neptune (orb 2)
Sun quincunx Pluto (orb 3)

Moon aspects --->

Moon conjunct Regulus (orb 1)
Moon trine GC (orb 2)
Moon trine sun (orb 4)
Moon trine sedna (orb 4)
Moon trine Diana (orb 5)
Moon sextile Erato (Orb 2)
Moon sextile Angel (Orb 2)
Moon sextile Urania (orb 3)
Moon sextile Kaali (Orb 2)
Moon sextile Quaoar (orb 4)
Moon sextile Ixion (orb 7)
Moon sextile BML/siren (orb 8)
Moon square Thali (orb 1)
Moon square neptune (orb 6)
Moon square Saturn (Orb 7)
Moon semi-sextile Pluto (orb 1)
Moon semi-sextile SNode (orb 2)
Moon semi-sextile Vertex (Orb 4)
Moon quincunx NNode (orb 2)
Moon quincunx anti-vertex (orb 4)
Moon quincunx mercury (orb 8)

Hope you have an awesome day. Sleep time here!

posted November 01, 2012 11:27 AM            

Sun semi-sextile Mercury (Orb 4)

xxxx

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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
Hey Ami Anne, Here are the sun/moon aspects. Have included asteroids as well because the aspects are tighter. Looking at this it doesn't make much sense to me!

Sun aspects --->

Sun conjunct sedna (orb 0)
Sun conjunct Diania (orb 1)
Sun sextile Erato (orb 2)
Sun sextile Angel (orb 2)
Sun trine jupiter (orb 6)
Sun square NN (orb 2)
Sun square SN (orb 2)
Sun square vertex (orb 0)
Sun square anti-vertex (orb 0)
Sun opposite Quaoar (orb 0)
Sun opposite Kaali (orb 2)
Sun opposite Ixion (orb 3)
Sun opposite Blck Mn Lillith (orb 4)
Sun opposite Siren (orb 4)
Sun opposite Child (orb 5)
Sun opposite Giza (orb 5)
Sun semi-sextile Saturn (Orb 3)
Sun quincunx Neptune (orb 2)
Sun quincunx Pluto (orb 3)

Moon aspects --->

Moon conjunct Regulus (orb 1)
Moon trine GC (orb 2)
Moon trine sun (orb 4)
Moon trine sedna (orb 4)
Moon trine Diana (orb 5)
Moon sextile Erato (Orb 2)
Moon sextile Angel (Orb 2)
Moon sextile Urania (orb 3)
Moon sextile Kaali (Orb 2)
Moon sextile Quaoar (orb 4)
Moon sextile Ixion (orb 7)
Moon sextile BML/siren (orb 8)
Moon square Thali (orb 1)
Moon square neptune (orb 6)
Moon square Saturn (Orb 7)
Moon semi-sextile Pluto (orb 1)
Moon semi-sextile SNode (orb 2)
Moon semi-sextile Vertex (Orb 4)
Moon quincunx NNode (orb 2)
Moon quincunx anti-vertex (orb 4)
Moon quincunx mercury (orb 8)

Hope you have an awesome day. Sleep time here!

<3 C.B.

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posted November 01, 2012 02:25 PM            

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p.s.

I found one GOOD thing today - just saying.

Angelica conjunct Mercury (orb 0).

:-)

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Is there any info on this asteroid? You WILL have a lot of gifts! God, always, gives us gifts! xx

I will look at your Sun and Moon aspects, later. I got busy with some projects but I will return

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posted November 01, 2012 06:07 PM            

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posted November 01, 2012 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
I also see:

Sekhmet conjunct ASC (orb 1)

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What is this one? I would love to learn if you want to research it and we can see how it applies to you!
I was thinking of the Muse one. You are an inspiration to others, I would think. You are someone who inspires others to create. Does that fit? xx

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posted November 01, 2012 06:23 PM            

I am having a weird feeling illness was somehow used against you when you were a child. Were you MADE ill by anyone like Muchnhausens by Proxy

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posted November 01, 2012 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is this one? I would love to learn if you want to research it and we can see how it applies to you!
I was thinking of the Muse one. You are an inspiration to others, I would think. You are someone who inspires others to create. Does that fit? xx

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posted November 01, 2012 07:30 PM            

Sekhmet is an ancient egyptian lioness goddess. She was known as the eye of Ra, the solar god. His power.

For me she a transformed goddess of power, the eye of Ra, she was Ra's justice and vengeance and retribution, but she then went overboard with bloodlust and killed to drink blood, and because of that the gods tricked her and turned her into Hathor the goddess of the arts and beauty to stop the killing.

To me she is the potential of violent just and injust power transformed into love, beauty, art. I love Hathor too. This myth has long inspired me to tranform pain/anger into love/beauty.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is this one? I would love to learn if you want to research it and we can see how it applies to you!
I was thinking of the Muse one. You are an inspiration to others, I would think. You are someone who inspires others to create. Does that fit? xx

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posted November 01, 2012 07:43 PM            

As a child I believed in faith healing. I also did things like regularly go into the wild and collect sick animals and treat them. I wanted to be a vet as a child. As an adult I also have also had 2 false started careers in different healing modalities (one physical, one emotional - both quite scientific vs alternate). However, ended up doing other things...

I can't believe how much you can see in the chart like this... !!!

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hygeia conj Child. Were you super interested in healing as a child. Was your family? Was illness a factor in your life, particularly as a child.
I have this one conj Merc. I am super into natural healing and a hypochondriac

I am having a weird feeling illness was somehow used against you when you were a child. Were you MADE ill by anyone like Muchnhausens by Proxy

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posted November 01, 2012 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
Hygeia??? OMG - this just gets disturbingly accurate. You are correct that illness has been significant. I have a disability and numerous life threatening complications over the years, starting at age 2. Also would say illness has been one of the greatest transformational seeds in my life, along with the sexual abuse as has been a big challenge and therefore have had to expand bigger and create peace/joy/love even while that is going on...

As a child I believed in faith healing. I also did things like regularly go into the wild and collect sick animals and treat them. I wanted to be a vet as a child. As an adult I also have also had 2 false started careers in different healing modalities (one physical, one emotional - both quite scientific vs alternate). However, ended up doing other things...

I can't believe how much you can see in the chart like this... !!!

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posted November 02, 2012 06:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
Hygeia??? OMG - this just gets disturbingly accurate. You are correct that illness has been significant. I have a disability and numerous life threatening complications over the years, starting at age 2. Also would say illness has been one of the greatest transformational seeds in my life, along with the sexual abuse as has been a big challenge and therefore have had to expand bigger and create peace/joy/love even while that is going on...

As a child I believed in faith healing. I also did things like regularly go into the wild and collect sick animals and treat them. I wanted to be a vet as a child. As an adult I also have also had 2 false started careers in different healing modalities (one physical, one emotional - both quite scientific vs alternate). However, ended up doing other things...

I can't believe how much you can see in the chart like this... !!!

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The charts are God's gift to each person imho. I get no end of flak from other Christians who think Astrology is from the devil.
I KNOW it is from God. It is just too amazing to be otherwise. It shows everything! The only lack would be in the astrologer who is just a man.

Wait until you get to Name asteroids. People's names who have impacted your life can be conjunct your Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or ASC.
One of my clients was sexually abused by her brother. She became a writer to tell her story( in fiction) She had Uranus conjunct the MC WITH her brother's name conjunct that.

This has become the norm, for me as an Astrologer, not the exception.

The Bible says that God knows every hair on our heads. The chart is the manifestation of that, to me.

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posted November 02, 2012 06:03 AM            

Each part of the chart must be seen in context with other parts of the chart.

The overarching point, for me, is that God KNOWS our troubles. He knows our sorrows. He knows our struggles.

Why is it so hard? That I do not know, as we see through a glass darkly while we are on the earth, but He knows us

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posted November 02, 2012 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The charts are God's gift to each person imho. I get no end of flak from other Christians who think Astrology is from the devil.
I KNOW it is from God. It is just too amazing to be otherwise. It shows everything! The only lack would be in the astrologer who is just a man.

Wait until you get to Name asteroids. People's names who have impacted your life can be conjunct your Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or ASC.
One of my clients was sexually abused by her brother. She became a writer to tell her story( in fiction) She had Uranus conjunct the MC WITH her brother's name conjunct that.

This has become the norm, for me as an Astrologer, not the exception.

The Bible says that God knows every hair on our heads. The chart is the manifestation of that, to me.

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posted November 02, 2012 10:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hygeia, alone, may not be "bad". It may be an interest in health. However, you have it conjunct Child with Ixxion, near by.

Each part of the chart must be seen in context with other parts of the chart.

The overarching point, for me, is that God KNOWS our troubles. He knows our sorrows. He knows our struggles.

Why is it so hard? That I do not know, as we see through a glass darkly while we are on the earth, but He knows us

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posted November 02, 2012 11:46 PM            

I read their book recently and it made a lot of sense to me. I know they look at charts very differently - it seems they were saying negatives are not found in the natal chart via asteroids/planets/squares... but only in synastry. Everything in the natal chart they contend is a gift, but it may be abused in synastry/relationship... Many of their professional astrologers call themselves Christians too. I found that interesting anyway.

Are you aware of their work??

<3

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The charts are God's gift to each person imho. I get no end of flak from other Christians who think Astrology is from the devil.
I KNOW it is from God. It is just too amazing to be otherwise. It shows everything! The only lack would be in the astrologer who is just a man.

Wait until you get to Name asteroids. People's names who have impacted your life can be conjunct your Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or ASC.
One of my clients was sexually abused by her brother. She became a writer to tell her story( in fiction) She had Uranus conjunct the MC WITH her brother's name conjunct that.

This has become the norm, for me as an Astrologer, not the exception.

The Bible says that God knows every hair on our heads. The chart is the manifestation of that, to me.

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posted November 03, 2012 08:15 AM            

This is interesting. I assume this is in the 8th House, too.

Kaali is your Kundalini Energy. Quaoar is out of the box brilliance. What touches Kaali is very close to our energy body. I would think you have out of the box brilliance. If it is in the 8th House, it will be used to delve into taboo emotions and taboo sexuality. Does that fit?

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