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Vradec
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posted March 30, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vradec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys, usually I go to www.grupovenus.com and when I go to "compatibility for lovers" it actually tells me where the planets are, what aspect they are to each other etc. This is helpful as I find the actual chart diagrams confusing, especially in terms of figuring out what aspects are. Does anyone know if there is anywhere on the web where I can input my data, and someone else's data and it can tell me things like where our Lilith and Eros are, and their aspects to either other and other planets? Thanks!

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SaturnineMoth
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posted March 30, 2013 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
same place as in your previous question here on cusps - ( CUSPS )

astro.com

click on free horoscopes - click on horoscope drawings and calculations - click on extended chart selection

(after you have input your birth data and the data for any others you need) scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see a box where they already have Black Moon Lilith, Chiron, Vertex, and some fixed stars and other bodies already available - highlight the ones you want if you need them from there.

There is an additional box at the bottom where it says that you can fill in the numeric codes for other asteroids, fixed stars, and objects - there are 3 lists that you can open and select from -

you can select up to 10 bodies from those lists at a time.

Eros is #433 -

the asteroid forum of lindaland has a master list that also lists asteroid bodies and is under construction for further bodies and information to be added. You can find it here -
Master List of Asteroids by Theme (UPDATED)

When you are selecting to view them in natal or through composite or synastry or any of the other charts listed that this applies - you can also click the check box to view "aspect lines to all" - this will give (some) minor aspects. (others may be found manually or harmonic chart).

They have many charts and explanations available on site.

- again to easily view the aspects and placements (degrees/house) - once the natal wheel has been opened above the actual graph there are two (links) you can click one to "View the PDF drawing" and the one you want to click below "view the additional tables PDF" - (click this one)

this will help you until you are comfortable with just looking at the wheel.

Hope this will help.

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Vradec
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posted March 30, 2013 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vradec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tried doing that but I simply don't understand the graphics of charts really. So I have no idea how to spot aspects between things.

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SaturnineMoth
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posted March 30, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
step 1 - (input the first person's birth data/your own)

step 2 - menu selection

step 3 - menu selection

step 4 - menu selection

step 5 - (fill in other person/partner info)

step 6 - chart selection

step 7 - object/aspect selection

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posted March 30, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
step 8 - view additional tables

step 9 - 1st person placements (with cusps to the right clipped)

step 10 - 2nd person placements (with cusps to the right, again clipped)

step 11 - the actual aspect table between the two individuals with all their planets (or other objects you selected) displayed

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Vradec
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posted March 30, 2013 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vradec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the problem, I don't understand the aspect table. How it works, or how to read it.

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SaturnineMoth
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posted March 30, 2013 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you click on additional charts you don't have to view the actual wheel - the aspects are there in the grid table -

the 1st person horizontal
the 2nd vertical

just like a map grid -

the number of degrees of separation are listed

for example Kylie and Michael have Moon to Moon aspect - it is a sesquiquadrate of 2 degrees. (a tight sesquiquadrate) a SES minor aspect -

they have Psyche trine Psyche as well - by 4 degrees - TRI - the triangle symbol with a 4 next to it...

Her Venus is biQuintile (bQ symbol, minor aspect) his Mars "exact" a 0 degree orb - (you can adjust orbs when you get the hang of things to make display only the tightest aspects, etc)

You only need to recognize symbols to read this chart.
Kylie's Venus is 9th house - the 9 is beside the symbol for Venus - Micheal's Mars is in the 12th house...
Kylie's Venus is in Gemini but her 9th house which is ruled by Taurus - so house ruler is in its own house in her natal but in the next sign (Gemini) - Her Venus is in Michael's 5th house which also has Taurus on the Cusp - this is a good synastry aspect for them (I would say).

Michael's Mars is in Capricorn his natal 12th house - this puts it inside Kylie's 5th house (with Sagittarius on the cusp).

this is a good bQ aspect -

then you look at the other aspects those make in their synastry chart - to see if there are other positive aspects to those planets - this helps determine the strength of that aspect - plus the tight orb. - minor aspects are usually kept to a very tight orb with most people - I tend to give certain minor aspects the same leeway that I give to major ones - for bQ, for instance, I use 3 max, if it has other beneficial connections backing it up.

In this case - I don't feel that Michael's Mars is doing very good in their synastry - it makes mostly harsh aspects to Kylie's placements. But, Kylie's Venus is very strong in their synastry - and she would have been a great importance to him - with her Venus tight trine to his Sun, his Mercury - also trine his North Node and Ascendant (according to astrotheme - for these birthtimes btw forgot to mention)- But, they also had the infatuation/obsession aspect of Venus square Pluto. (not so surprising at all)

Once you are more familiar with the symbols and interpretations of different aspects between objects, which really won't take long once you get a few of the basics down anyway, you'll have no trouble looking at just wheels. There are many people here that will help when you need something in specific - just let the mods/members know exactly what it is that has you frustrated or curious - I'm sure they will be glad to help.

Be specific though -

this guide covers your question here - if you have any others, I will do my best to help.

<3 good luck!


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Vradec
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posted March 31, 2013 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vradec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much! I understand now!

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