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Topic: Thoughts? New. Chart pic attached
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lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 06:31 PM
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Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 860 From: an oasis in the desert Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 09:36 PM
With an emphasis on the eastern hemisphere (left side of the chart), you are a self-motivated and self assertive person or have the potential to become so. With the emphasis on the northern hemisphere (bottom of the chart) you tend to be a private person. With Sun in Virgo in the 12th house, you are both discerning and sensitive but with squares to Uranus, Saturn and Neptune, you may have troubles communicating this. Communication and relationships with siblings and neighbors may sometimes be a challenge.The sextile from Saturn to your 1st house Mercury and Ascendant conjunction helps you to restrain yourself from speaking thoughtlessly. Since Mercury is your Solar dispositor this can help you express yourself to others once you've given serious thought to what you want to say and how you want to say it. Your Moon in Aquarius in the 4th house indicates a strong desire for emotional security that also allows you to express your uniqueness. Your emotions may often change suddenly and you require a home base that allows you to express your emotional side freely no matter how quirky they may sometimes seem. The square to Pluto gives your emotions intensity however and learning how to express them honestly and without trying to manipulate others in order to feel secure may present challenges for you. With Jupiter ruling your 3rd house of communication and posited in the 8th house, you're generally better off communicating privately to others on a one-to-one basis rather than speaking your mind in a group situation. Is there anything in particular that you'd like to know? I'll focus on that since I don't have time to thoroughly read your whole chart. The small chart is a bit blurry and hard on the eyes so I've just covered a few things rather superficially. Some things may need to be modified on further examination. IP: Logged |
lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 09:48 PM
Thank you so much for your time. I really do appreciate it. Very interesting, and accurate I think. I would most of all like to identify areas where I struggle and work to improve on them. I do have a hunch that my chart may shed a bit of light on these things. I think I would be beneficial for me, and everyone really, to have an objective view of how we interact with others- I find it quite difficult! So sorry about the smallness of the chart,is there anyway I can fix this? IP: Logged |
lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 09:51 PM
Changed the sizing so when you click on it, it should zoom in IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 860 From: an oasis in the desert Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 10:38 PM
I printed a copy and I'm okay now.I want to clarify that I'm an amateur at this. I've gotten myself away from using "cookbooks" to look at a bunch of aspects and I'm working on reading a chart holistically, so IF I'M OFF IN ANY WAY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I'd like to go back and forth with this so you can correct me if I'm not on the right course. When I look at your chart, I see that your Sun and Moon are in flowing aspect to each other as well as your Venus and Mars, so it appears to me that your parents had a good relationship. But what concerns me is that your second house (self worth, the things we value) is ruled by Pluto and squares both your Venus and your Moon. It appears to me that something happened that had a deep, transformative impact on how you view women and femininity, and that this experience impacted your sense of self esteem. Pluto also has aspects to the planets in your 3rd house, so I'm thinking this may have happened with (perhaps) an older male, possibly your sibling? Also I'm seeing that your 3rd house planets are squaring both your Sun and your Mars, so perhaps your father knew and didn't do anything? Am I even close? IP: Logged |
lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 11:01 PM
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lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 11:05 PM
sorry didn't want to leave this infoIP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 860 From: an oasis in the desert Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 11:20 PM
Let me clarify. I didn't mean to imply that the experience(s) was(were) necessarily sexual. It could have been things like demeaning comments about women (whether about certain women or in a general sense) or disparaging remarks about feminine things or interests that are normally considered feminine. The point is that it impacted how you view yourself as a woman and hurt your self esteem. That might also explain why your father may not have acted upon it since was likely viewed as a cultural norm for him. Keep in mind that women historically have had pretty much 2nd class status and this might make more sense to you. A lot has changed during my life time, so I'm sensitive to this in ways that younger people just don't realize. When I was growing up, it was still unusual for a middle class mother to work outside the home! Having divorced parents was considered shocking among my childhood classmates. People under the age of 30 grew up with much more equality between the sexes. It's still changing. IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 860 From: an oasis in the desert Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 11:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by lessica: I did experience a lot of abandonment as a child though. was not raised by parents.
Abandonment or threats of abandonment would definitely impact a person's sense of self worth and lovability. These self esteem and abandonment issues are areas that you will need to work through to experience more happiness in your life. Now let's look at your Mars which is both a primary significator of what you find appealing in men and is especially important for someone with Libra rising since it also rules your descendant. Your Mars is in Aries in the 6th house and sextiles Jupiter, trines Venus, has an out-of-sign opposition to the Sun, sextiles the Moon and has a tight square to Neptune. (I'm not going to include the square to Saturn/Uranus since it's such a wide square -- about 10 degrees -- much too wide to be significant for this.) Mars is the natural ruler of the 1st house, so I'm going to include planets there in this description. The type of man that you would find appealing would have to be assertive (such as pursue you, make the first move), generous, optimistic, philosophical, charming, attractive, and emotionally expressive. He'd need to have a healthy, clean, masculine look (I'm thinking a freshly showered "alpha male" type.) He'd also need to have a lot of sensitivity, perhaps some artistic or musical pursuit as a hobby or a spiritual emphasis. You need him to be someone who communicates well and has a sort of intensity about him. Does that sound like a good description of the type of man you'd like? IP: Logged |
lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 11:49 PM
I am not sure, it is quite interesting, I was raised in very matriarchal environments. I would consider that a hegemonic abnormality. I was keep thinking of that one. It has to come from where. I think that is what I am attracted to. Although I do like the artistic aspects to be visible physically- some how. I 100% like extreme cleanliness. I think everyone is stunning when they have wet hair from recent shower. haha.
Keep going! this is very interesting.
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lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2013 11:53 PM
I am a bit unsure of the relationship things. I only really know what I have experienced. I don't believe I notice communication or lack of, but those aspects are perhaps dominated by my feeling inferior so I may just dismiss my desires sometimes.IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 860 From: an oasis in the desert Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 14, 2013 09:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by lessica: I was raised in very matriarchal environments.I think that is what I am attracted to. Although I do like the artistic aspects to be visible physically- some how
I should do a palm-slap to my forehead for not thinking that through. The Moon in 4th/Venus in 10th should have told me you were in female dominated environments. Sigh. May I ask what you mean by "artistic aspects to be visible physically"? I find that interesting and would like to know more. It makes sense astrologically with the close square from Neptune to MARS but how would you see that about someone? IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 860 From: an oasis in the desert Registered: Mar 2013
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posted August 14, 2013 09:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by lessica: ...those aspects are perhaps dominated by my feeling inferior so I may just dismiss my desires sometimes.
That is one way our insecurities may manifest. If you don't feel you "deserve" something that you want or if you feel you would never be able to have it for some reason, we tend to brush those desires away as unreasonable. For example, my body isn't the 6-foot ultra-lean fashion model type, so I dismiss designer clothes as "nice for someone else but not for me" and choose clothes that are more appropriate to an athletic muscular body. I convince myself that I don't WANT the sleek designer clothes even though deep down inside I'd LOVE to be able to dress like that. (And THAT is after working on my self esteem because rationally I know I'm lean/healthy but I can still "feel fat"; people who know me would laugh at that -- or possibly feel insulted if they're struggling with an actual weight problem.) So yes, it's very possible that you've been dismissing your desires. IP: Logged |
lessica Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 14, 2013 10:53 PM
That was an excellent analogy re dismissing desires. Makes complete sense to me- I am trying to work on it. I am not sure-the visual aspects of artistic traits somehow. It doesn't make much sense at all. It is very hard to describe, but someones physical attributes seem to come off as artistic to me, and usually when I have noticed that they are in fact very artistic people. Something about the face structure. Not their hair, clothing style etc, but their actual faces.
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