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Topic: Natal Charts - Do they tell you if you're meant for a soulmate?
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Ibringyouasong
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: Trenton, New Jersey, USA
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 18, 2014 12:55 AM
  
Hi, doing a little research here. I'm curious as to whether or not a person's natal chart can tell them if they're meant to have a soulmate relationship, a twin flame relationship, or a karmic relationship depending upon certain aspects. Of course, I'm not sure what these aspects are: i.e. personal planetary aspects, outer planet aspects, personal planet aspects to asteroids or vice versa; natal vertex aspects?If anyone has any information, please feel free to pass it along. Perhaps we can even get a good discussion rolling. Cheers and thanks! ------------------
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ReachingForTheStars
Knowflake Posts: 85
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posted April 18, 2014 02:09 AM
According to what I've read, natal Isis conjunct Osiris is supposed to be indicative of meeting your true love soulmate in this lifetime. It's likely that the other person would have the conjunction in their natal too. IP: Logged |
tgem
Knowflake Posts: 1480
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posted April 18, 2014 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
According to what I've read, natal Isis conjunct Osiris is supposed to be indicative of meeting your true love soulmate in this lifetime. It's likely that the other person would have the conjunction in their natal too.
This is true..Look for any of the following soulmate pairings in the natal, conjunctions mainly but the oppositions also work..keep the orbs tight! 3 degrees MAX! Isis/Osiris is the strongest, followed by Eros/psyche and then on down the line. The partner does NOT have to have the same pairing..just one of the soulmate pairings as well.
Isis/Osiris
Eros/psyche or Cupido/psyche
Jupiter/Juno
Siva/Parvati or Siva/Kaali Also, chances are they will fall on a very significant point in the natal chart: Angle, nodal axis, VTX axis, sun/moon mdpt. Etc. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
Knowflake Posts: 6951
From: Mountain Gate
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 18, 2014 08:15 AM
What about Atlantis Opposite Atlantis on the Nodal Axis? Vertical Axis.His Mars Opposite her Venus/Isis on the other Nodal Axis, possibly on the Horizontal Axis. His Venus Opposite her Osiris, possibly on Vertex Axis, maybe a far reach. And the Sun Conjunct someones Isis/Osiris? That Grand Trines with two other Luminaries? (Think the remaining Luminary Trines the Venus/Isis/North Node.) Also a Pluto/Angel? First chart I've ever checked Asteroids on, and it seems pretty significant. IP: Logged |
tgem
Knowflake Posts: 1480
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posted April 18, 2014 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
What about Atlantis Opposite Atlantis on the Nodal Axis? Vertical Axis.His Mars Opposite her Venus/Isis on the other Nodal Axis, possibly on the Horizontal Axis. His Venus Opposite her Osiris, possibly on Vertex Axis, maybe a far reach. And the Sun right where your (tgem) Node lies Conjunct someones Isis/Osiris? Also a Pluto/Angel?
These are interesting Ellyn. To me sun on the Isis/Osiris conjunction is definitely the strongest. Is Isis/Osiris on a planet or point or axis? Very good possibility they could be Twinflames or even high level guardian soulmates if other aspects show up. With his mars aspecting her Isis and her Osiris aspecting his venus you also definitely see the yin/yang male/female energies playing out. The composite should be checked for any soulmate pairings as well for further clarification.Atlantis on nodal axis means they both probably had takes team life's (common of TF's) and them being opposite eachother in synastry probably means they had an Atleantean life together. Atlantis in the composite should clarify.
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Ellynlvx
Knowflake Posts: 6951
From: Mountain Gate
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 18, 2014 11:14 AM
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/Galactic/ZS.htm It's pretty close to this, but I don't think any Axes. Got that Luminary Grand Trine centred there, though. IP: Logged |
Ibringyouasong
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: Trenton, New Jersey, USA
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 18, 2014 11:20 AM
Funnily enough, I have other aspects between the asteroids that were given to me via tgem (THANK YOU!). I also took a look at my vertex just to see if that made any contacts with those same asteroids and funnily enough it did. I'll list the aspects and see if they mean anything to anybody.Vertex Semi-Sextile Isis
Vertex Conjunct Osiris
Vertex Trine Psyche
Vertex Conjunct Siva
Eros Conjunct Juno
Eros Sextile Siva
Isis Trine Kaali
Isis Opposite Parvati
Juno Semisquare Osiris
Juno Conjunct Siva
Kaali Quincunx Osiris
Kaali Square Psyche
Kaali Semisquare Parvati
Osiris Trine Psyche
Parvati Quincunx Siva I also have the asteroids touching more of my personal planets, but I'd figure I'd start with this. Do these connections mean a soulmate relationship is possible or not at all? Thanks so much! ------------------
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Ellynlvx
Knowflake Posts: 6951
From: Mountain Gate
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 18, 2014 12:18 PM
Wonder what the numbers for all of those are.So you think it might be some sort of teamwork then?
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IV XXIV
Newflake Posts: 20
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posted April 18, 2014 02:04 PM
I apologize if this is a dumb question but how can I find those aspects? Would it be in a regular list of aspects from astrotheme? I don't have any of those fancy aspects.. Only the regular planets and MC/AS. IP: Logged |
ReachingForTheStars
Knowflake Posts: 85
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posted April 18, 2014 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
I apologize if this is a dumb question but how can I find those aspects? Would it be in a regular list of aspects from astrotheme? I don't have any of those fancy aspects.. Only the regular planets and MC/AS.
Astro.com is a much better site for creating charts. Go to their free horoscopes section, then click the horoscope drawing and calculations, extended chart selection, Input put birth data, and choose the type of chart you want to create. As for the asteroids, scroll to the bottom of the page, and you'll see a box where you can input the asteroids or object numbers. There's a good list here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000044.html Also, you should reduce the orb factor, and click the box that says "aspect lines to all," to see the aspects from asteroid to asteroid. It's not always listed. You can see the aspect grid, by clicking the "additional tables" link once the chart is up. Hope that wasn't too confusing! IP: Logged |
Ibringyouasong
Knowflake Posts: 34
From: Trenton, New Jersey, USA
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 18, 2014 04:42 PM
Numbers - do you mean the degrees for each aspect that I listed?And yes, I suppose I'm trying to determine if teamwork effort would count at all. I don't have any of the famed couples making any aspects to each other (i.e. Eros/Psyche, Osiris/Isis..etc), but they're connected to each other through others. I'm wondering if perhaps a soulmate indicator in one's natal chart wouldn't have to be as black and white as those matches - perhaps there can be shades of gray (and no, not the fifty kind either, lol) that can still have the same indicator in one's natal chart. My whole life I've felt that I've been waiting for just one person - someone I've felt that I would know intuitively from the moment I met them. And I've felt this way for the whole 25 years of my life. I can't help but feel that this person would be my soulmate. Settling for less - something I grew up with, unfortunately - is not something I'm willing to do. And with my natal Sun conjuncting my natal Moon, I'm afraid that I'm an all or nothing kind of person. lol. ------------------
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ReachingForTheStars
Knowflake Posts: 85
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posted April 18, 2014 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ibringyouasong:
Numbers - do you mean the degrees for each aspect that I listed?And yes, I suppose a teamwork effort all around what I'm trying to see. I don't have any of the famed couples making any aspects to each other (i.e. Eros/Psyche, Osiris/Isis..etc), but they're connected to each other through others. I'm wondering if perhaps a soulmate indicator in one's natal chart wouldn't have to be as black and white as those matches - perhaps there can be shades of gray (and no, not the fifty kind either, lol) that can still have the same indicator in one's natal chart. My whole life I've felt that I've been waiting for just one person - someone I've felt that I would know intuitively from the moment I met them. And I've felt this way for the whole 25 years of my life. I can't help but feel that this person would be my soulmate. Settling for less - something I grew up with, unfortunately - is not something I'm willing to do. And with my natal Sun conjuncting my natal Moon, I'm afraid that I'm an all or nothing kind of person. lol.
I'm wondering about gray areas too. I don't have any of the soulmate asteroid pairings conjunct within a tight orb either, but I do have them in angular houses, and making close aspects to my lights and personal planets. I have psyche, Cupido and eros in my 4th house. Psyche is conjunct my IC by a wide 4 degree orb with Cupido 5 degrees away followed by eros 3 degrees from Cupido, so eros and Cupido are conjunct. Psyche trines my moon (0) and venus (1), and squares my chart ruler (0). Eros squares my sun and ascendant (0). Isis and Osiris are in my 7th house with neptune, Juno, BML, and my moon. Osiris is a degree from the cusp of my 8th house, conjunct my moon (1), and 8th house SN (2), and trines my venus (0). Isis is conjunct my Juno (3), and sextile my jupiter (0). All these aspects make me think that maybe I'll find my soulmate, but there are some stuff I need to work on. My jupiter, which is my descendant ruler, is conjunct my vertex in my 5th house which I've read can bring fated romances. Although astrology can give answers or clues as simple as having soulmate pairs conjunct, it's still way too complex for everyone to have easy answers.
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IV XXIV
Newflake Posts: 20
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Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 18, 2014 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
Astro.com is a much better site for creating charts. Go to their free horoscopes section, then click the horoscope drawing and calculations, extended chart selection, Input put birth data, and choose the type of chart you want to create. As for the asteroids, scroll to the bottom of the page, and you'll see a box where you can input the asteroids or object numbers.There's a good list here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000044.html Also, you should reduce the orb factor, and click the box that says "aspect lines to all," to see the aspects from asteroid to asteroid. It's not always listed. You can see the aspect grid, by clicking the "additional tables" link once the chart is up. Hope that wasn't too confusing!
Thank you very much!
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