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CuriousV
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posted February 26, 2015 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am new on this forum and seeing it as I haven't had much luck with getting any insights from anyone in the Interpersonal Astrology section, I thought I'd give a try here.

Would someone please look at my synastry chart and let me know if this is a good match for a serious relationship.

Also, I am trying to understand the mixed messages I seem to be getting from this Scorp and why he's been acting distant lately. I've heard that with a Scorp one will usually know if the Scorp is interested. But I'm confused why he hasn't been acting like he wants to progress things with me. Thank you in advance!

My details are on the inside of the chart and his are on the outside.

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posted February 27, 2015 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a novice at this and I'm learning but I see his Saturn is conjunct your Vertex meaning it's a fateful meeting and restrictive. I heard with Saturn conjunct Vertex it's like being run over by a semi.

Hopefully other folks with more experiences can chime in as I'm still learning.

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posted February 27, 2015 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try posting this in Interpersonal Astrology.

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posted February 27, 2015 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was trying to make it bigger. It is too small for me to spend much time looking at cuz I do so many charts a day. I am sorry. xxx

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posted March 03, 2015 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sabine - thank you for your input. Does this mean it's a difficult match? Are you saying that I won't have luck getting through to him or understanding him and vice versa?

Randall - I did but no one in that section seemed to be willing to give me any insights

Ami Anne - Thank you for your willingness to look at the chart. When I open it, it's pretty good size, like full screen. Are you looking at it on your computer? Can I send you the JPG file to your personal email? I would REALLY REALLY appreciate your help with reading our chart as I am feeling extremely frustrated with this man. I just want to know if I should just let him be or try and fight for what I feel could be a potentially great relationship?

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posted March 04, 2015 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

Anyone? I see so many people post on various threads on this forum but I feel like my posts here and in Interpersonal section are just invisible

I really need help with understanding my and this man's chart. Please help! Thank you!

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posted March 06, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People, please anyone?

I see so many posting on here but no one has offered any insight on my chart

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posted March 06, 2015 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think nobody wanted to give you a bad news hence no response.

You might want to read up about:-
- Saturn conj. vertex/Chiron
- Pluto sq Moon
- Pluto conj. NN
- Saturn opp. Venus
- Venus opp Chiron
- Sun conj. SN

I'd run.

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posted March 09, 2015 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This does look like a difficult and intense relationship, but neither of you seem to be looking for an "easy" relationship...
so I wouldn't advise you to run lol

You both have Capricorn Moons conjunct and Scorpio Venuses conjunct. Your emotions are very much in perfect sync. Communication should flow pretty easily as well considering the Mercury trines and sextiles (going both ways).

You both have "heavy" charts... indicative of some pretty difficult life experiences. But you're both survivors, so if you've been to hell and back - you're proud to say that you're still here to tell the story. There is a lot of mutual trust between you and an understanding that this is *serious* to you both.

I can't imagine that you two would break things off. Even if things end romantically, you'll probably remain close friends - because there are few people who you could get this close to, in the world.

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posted March 09, 2015 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astra7:
I think nobody wanted to give you a bad news hence no response.

You might want to read up about:-
- Saturn conj. vertex/Chiron
- Pluto sq Moon
- Pluto conj. NN
- Saturn opp. Venus
- Venus opp Chiron
- Sun conj. SN

I'd run.


Hi Astra, thank you for your input.

Someone just recently told me when looking at this synastry that because of my Venus to his Saturn (and also his own Venus to his Saturn)opposition, as well as Venus/Mars square aspect, he would be acting "hot/cold" because Venus/Saturn are always afraid of being rejected and thus they distance themselves...

And she also mentioned that his Pluto conjuncting my North Node indicating that that is a very important aspect and is definitely something that would impact both of us....

What does that mean?

And I think someone on here did mention that because his Saturn conjuncts my Vertex, it is meant to be karmic. In what sense? Were we meant to cross paths? And are we meant to be together for some reason/lesson learning?

And finally, would you PLEASE elaborate on some of the aspects that you mentioned? I feel that people who are used to reading charts can much better explain what those aspects mean in a specific situation. If I read up on them, it gives a general idea but doesn't really give me a good understanding of how it relates to me and him as a couple.

I would really appreciate more of your input. Thank you!

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posted March 09, 2015 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
This does look like a difficult and intense relationship, but neither of you seem to be looking for an "easy" relationship...
so I wouldn't advise you to run lol

You both have Capricorn Moons conjunct and Scorpio Venuses conjunct. Your emotions are very much in perfect sync. Communication should flow pretty easily as well considering the Mercury trines and sextiles (going both ways).

You both have "heavy" charts... indicative of some pretty difficult life experiences. But you're both survivors, so if you've been to hell and back - you're proud to say that you're still here to tell the story. There is a lot of mutual trust between you and an understanding that this is *serious* to you both.

I can't imagine that you two would break things off. Even if things end romantically, you'll probably remain close friends - because there are few people who you could get this close to, in the world.


Hi Odette, thank you so much for your input. You are right in that I am definitely not looking for an "easy" relationship and I don't mean I seek drama, no, but I feel that it has to have passion and intensity and if it's just smooth, steady flowing without any excitement, I can get bored. That is what happened in my last one, although we got along perfectly. And I can't really speak for him, but he did mention that he doesn't want a boring relationship where you see each other every weekend and do a typical Friday movie night, or that he hated it when his ex would call him as soon as she got off work at 6 PM every night and he knew that it was her calling him as soon as the phone rang at 6:05 and it drove him crazy.

You are right on our communication, well at least when we did see each other. I felt like it was a pretty easy flow and we could spend hours on end together and I was like where did the night go.

But I am not sure if because we both have our Moons in Cap, we kinda appear unemotional, at least on the surface. I know that I do have a problem when people show me their emotions, like I don't know how to act when someone is crying in front of me, it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable, and I also don't like to show people that I am upset or crying, for example. And he did mention that he doesn't like talking about his problems to others and doesn't want other people share their issue with him coz he doesn't want to deal with other people's negative stuff. So in a way, I can relate to what you said...

As far as you saying you can't imagine us two breaking things off. Well...I wanna cry as I am typing this but I think he just ended it with me I wrote it on another thread, but I'll repeat it here as it seems that I am getting more people's feedback here.

I finally got very frustrated with his lack of communication and being distant with me and the fact that he hadn't made any plans to see me in 3 weeks and so I sent him a message saying that I was confused by that and wasn't sure if his interest was no longer there. I asked him to be honest and let me know if that was the case. I also told him that I really liked him and as much as I want to have a relationship with him, it would be a waste of time for me to hope for something if that is not how he felt and I asked him to please let me know. He said he would call but never did. He completely shut me out. Nothing ever since (been a week).

Does this mean that that is his answer, which is "I am not interested. Move on." Or would you say that him retracting and freezing me out is his way of processing his feelings and what I told him? Please give me advice as I don't know how to read his behavior...

Why would he reply right away that he will call me and then didn't? If he already knew that he was not interested in continuing anything with me, why say "I'll call you tomorrow"? Why not just ignore my text and leave it at that?? I just don't get it...

A part of me wants to believe that he got overwhelmed and just needs to time to deal with the things I said and also figure out how he feels. But another part of me says - move on, a man who is interested in a woman would not ignore her and risk losing her and instead he would be glad to receive a message where she clearly lets him know that she likes him, she wants to be with him and that she is serious about continuing things with him...But then again, I don't know how badly he was burned before and how it impacted him and his willingness to be open with a woman.

Should I make peace with this and consider his silence to mean he is not/was never really interested in anything serious with me and move one or should I give him time/space and then try to reach out to him after some time (a week or two)?

Thank you again for all your valuable advices!

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posted March 09, 2015 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:

You both have "heavy" charts... indicative of some pretty difficult life experiences. But you're both survivors, so if you've been to hell and back - you're proud to say that you're still here to tell the story.

I also wanted to add something to your comment above. I can definitely relate to what you said and often think if this man, or any other man for that matter, knew even half of what I went through in regards to men and things that were done to me, he’d be like wow how is she so open and willing to trust and fall in love with me? How is she not so guarded? But I am sure we all have those stories. For me, it’s just a matter of becoming more spiritually evolved and aware of myself over the last several years. I used to be very guarded and trusted no man, always thinking yeah you are just like the guy before you, blah, blah, blah...but the truth is it never led me anywhere other than being so negative and projecting all that into my life. I am sure I have missed out on quite a few good men just by being that way.

As for him...I know from what he has told me that he had been hurt before and even though he didn’t really show me his emotions when telling the story about his ex as well as other previous encounters with women, I could sense easily that he was deeply hurt. And as a Scorpio, he was pretty vengeful about that and told me about his “payback” for what they did. So I don’t know if he is just really very guarded and insecure and unwilling to believe that maybe, just maybe I could be this kind, compassionate, loving woman that he has been seeing me as in our interactions and how that I had let him in on more of my feelings towards him, it’s triggering him to run from me, as a self-protection mechanism.

I know that Scorpios are very careful about who they trust and it takes a while for them to open up, and even longer to let one in on their true feelings. I also know that they love being in control as much as they can, about everything, including their feelings. And if they show emotions, they consider it as showing their weakness to someone and the other person now has an upper hand because they became vulnerable with them, hence lost control. And I know that he likes to be in control. He told me that. As well as the fact that he noticed that when he is dating someone and he starts to like that person, he find himself stopping himself from seeing them. He said, yeah, I know it sounds weird, but that’s what he noticed, it’s so that he doesn’t get too close to them and so he doesn’t develop that level of liking them too much in the beginning...Could his acting this way be anything of this nature? He started to develop something for me, not love, but maybe started to like me and he didn’t really know what to do with that? And then my message added more confusion to how he was feeling? In which case, should I just leave it the way it is. If he doesn’t contact me, than it’s done. But if there is some sort of confusion or hesitation that he is feeling, maybe he will be able to sort it out and contact me when he is ready? Sorry for the long post...


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posted March 10, 2015 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Hi Astra, thank you for your input.

Someone just recently told me when looking at this synastry that because of my Venus to his Saturn (and also his own Venus to his Saturn)opposition, as well as Venus/Mars square aspect, he would be acting "hot/cold" because Venus/Saturn are always afraid of being rejected and thus they distance themselves...

And she also mentioned that his Pluto conjuncting my North Node indicating that that is a very important aspect and is definitely something that would impact both of us....

What does that mean?

And I think someone on here did mention that because his Saturn conjuncts my Vertex, it is meant to be karmic. In what sense? Were we meant to cross paths? And are we meant to be together for some reason/lesson learning?

And finally, would you PLEASE elaborate on some of the aspects that you mentioned? I feel that people who are used to reading charts can much better explain what those aspects mean in a specific situation. If I read up on them, it gives a general idea but doesn't really give me a good understanding of how it relates to me and him as a couple.

I would really appreciate more of your input. Thank you!



Karmic doesn't always mean something good. It could be that you end up in power struggle and one person end up destroying the other's life to that point you could say, yes, it had an impact.

tbh, although you had some lovely aspects, with this amount of harsh aspects, I would not be entering a relationship. But that's me. You might want to dip your toes in and find out for yourself. After all, it's your lesson. If you can't figure out beforehand you have no idea what the lesson is. I do.

Saturn conj. Chiron is called heartbreak aspects. There is a thread somewhere here on Chiron.

Pluto sq Moon would be power/emotional struggle.

Someone ends up feeling cold by Saturn-Venus hard aspects. In relationship, you would want to be receving cosy warm feelings from the other person....like Sun trine Venus DW.


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posted March 10, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astra7:

tbh, although you had some lovely aspects, with this amount of harsh aspects, I would not be entering a relationship. But that's me. You might want to dip your toes in and find out for yourself. After all, it's your lesson. If you can't figure out beforehand you have no idea what the lesson is. I do.


Thank you, Astra. Wow, is it really that bad? Do we have any positive aspects going on to balance out the bad ones? Would you say there are more positives or more negatives? Or you see so many harsh aspects that even if hypothetically both people wanted to be in this relationship, it would still be too much work to overcome those and so relationship is kinda doomed from the start?

And finally, you said "you have no idea what the lesson is. I do" - What do you mean by "I do?" You know what my lesson is supposed to be if I decide to pursue a relationship with this man by just looking at our synastry?


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posted March 10, 2015 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And also, Astra, in the line up that you mentioned:

- Saturn conj. vertex/Chiron
- Pluto sq Moon
- Pluto conj. NN
- Saturn opp. Venus
- Venus opp Chiron
- Sun conj. SN

who is the first planet and who is the second? Do you mean HIS Saturn conj MY Vertex and Chiron? His Pluto sq my Moon? And so forth? Just trying to understand so I can better related whose planet is whose when I read on these aspects.

And also, is the last one - Sun conj. South Node or what is SN?

As always, thanks a million!

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posted March 10, 2015 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
This does look like a difficult and intense relationship, but neither of you seem to be looking for an "easy" relationship...
so I wouldn't advise you to run lol

You both have Capricorn Moons conjunct and Scorpio Venuses conjunct. Your emotions are very much in perfect sync. Communication should flow pretty easily as well considering the Mercury trines and sextiles (going both ways).

You both have "heavy" charts... indicative of some pretty difficult life experiences. But you're both survivors, so if you've been to hell and back - you're proud to say that you're still here to tell the story. There is a lot of mutual trust between you and an understanding that this is *serious* to you both.

I can't imagine that you two would break things off. Even if things end romantically, you'll probably remain close friends - because there are few people who you could get this close to, in the world.


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posted March 11, 2015 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:


Hi Ami, I only see Odette's quote in your post but there is nothing else showing up. Would you please re-post your comments? Thank you very much!

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posted March 11, 2015 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just thanking Odette, Curious.

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posted March 11, 2015 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see you made it bigger, C. Which person are you and I will look later.

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posted March 11, 2015 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I see you made it bigger, C. Which person are you and I will look later.


Oh, thank you so much for being willing to interpret our charts!!!

My data is on the inside of the wheel, in blue, and his is on the outside.

I am curious if you feel just like Astra - she told me to run, lol, because she says there are way too many negative aspects in our synastry?

Or do you side with Odette?

Would you say there are enough positive aspects that would balance out the negatives and I should try to "fight" for the lack of a better word for this relationship to develop? Basically - should I contact him in a week or so? (he's completely shut me out at this point )

Thanks a million!!!

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posted March 11, 2015 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I see how this would be a great relationship, at first, and you may feel like best friends.

It would prolly feel really close and really bonded, quite fast.

I am not sure it would last, though.


If the Moons are closely conjunct, it may.

If not, I would not think it would.

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posted March 12, 2015 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I see how this would be a great relationship, at first, and you may feel like best friends.

It would prolly feel really close and really bonded, quite fast.

I am not sure it would last, though.


If the Moons are closely conjunct, it may.

If not, I would not think it would.


Thank you, Ami Anne. Would you be able to look at the chart and give me the in-depth reading? I honestly don't know how to determine if our Moons conjunct at a close angle....and also, others have mentioned our Mars/Venus, Sun/Venus, Saturn/Venus and Mercury aspects, as well as Pluto, Vertex and Lillith. Would you be able to comment on those as well?

Sorry, but I am truly clueless about chart readings Thank you in advance!

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posted March 12, 2015 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't do an in depth one on here, my Friend. I used to before I got so busy, but am not able to now

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posted March 12, 2015 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I can't do an in depth one on here, my Friend. I used to before I got so busy, but am not able to now


Aahh but it's OK, I totally understand. Thank you for being so willing to chime in and give me a few insights.

Hoping that there are others on this forum who would be able to offer their input. Thank you!

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