posted January 21, 2021 03:56 AM            

my question is, how would you recommend dealing with him? i have to work 10000x harder just for anything to happen to me, is there something in this life i can do to make him less restrictive on me? less challenging? i am grateful for all the lessons but i'm only 21 and already tired... lol when does it get better

posted January 21, 2021 11:29 AM              

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Originally posted by Graham:
Ah ... I see now that you have already linked us to your natal chart at http://imgbb.com/Y25v9q3

However, it would be helpful if you posted it again here - with PLACIDUS houses ... which puts security-seeking Saturn in security-seeking Taurus and 4th house of psychological foundations (rather than the 5th house of creativity).

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posted January 22, 2021 03:45 AM            

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And how certain are you that the birth time is correct? (As just 4 minutes earlier puts the ascendant in Sagittarius and results in Cancer-Capricorn being intercepted.)

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yes! that is my chart and i know! that has actually cross my mind a few times however i am a twin and her birth time is a minute after mine exactly, we were C section so i assume we were quick. this is the time thats on the birth certificate. i do have big teeth and ive heard that is a trait with capricorn risings lol so i知 as sure as i can be! i dont know how else to find out if i知 a sag rising. but if you could help with my karma and all that, that would be SO appreciated !

posted January 22, 2021 08:52 AM              

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Originally posted by astrobabes:
yes! that is my chart and i know! that has actually cross my mind a few times however i am a twin and her birth time is a minute after mine exactly, we were C section so i assume we were quick. this is the time thats on the birth certificate. i do have big teeth and ive heard that is a trait with capricorn risings lol so i知 as sure as i can be! i dont know how else to find out if i知 a sag rising. but if you could help with my karma and all that, that would be SO appreciated !

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Large teeth is a feature associated with Sagittarius Rising :-

"......your jocular personality presents itself through your flashy smile, bright eyes, and vibrant style. Your best asset is your legs and walk. Your teeth and smile border perfection (some say they池e horse-like, but in a positive way)." ... http://thoughtcatalog.com/nikki-halsted/2020/07/heres-what-your-rising-sign-says-about-your-appearance-according-to-medical-astrology/

Maybe Kannon McAfee (who moderates here, on the Astrology 2.0 board) can help you with this ... as he is recognised within the astrological community as the go-to-guy for chart rectification.

However ... initially, I'm going to focus on the interceptions and duplications that occur in the 4-minutes-earlier birth chart - because (if valid) these do indicate a past-life issue which is being addressed in the current lifetime.

Then ... as requested ... we can look at the "saturn issues" in your Capricorn Rising Chart produced by your recorded birth time ... and perhaps identify some progressions or/and transits to that which fit with the timing of any significant events in your life so far.

posted January 22, 2021 09:45 AM              

This PLACIDUS chart has Capricorn (+ Mercury + Sun) intercepted in 1st house; Cancer intercepted in 7th house; Gemini on the cusp of both 6th + 7th houses; Sagittarius on the cusp of both 12th + 1st houses and a Pluto-Chiron conjunction in the 12th house.

So ... an issue (relating to your Chiron-wounded Pluto) in the 6th and 12th houses is adversely affecting the 7th and 1st houses - in a way that (until resolved) prevents the positive qualities of Cancer, Capricorn, Pluto and Chiron from being used effectively.

This 6th/12th axis issue will have it's current-life roots in the events of your childhood/adolecence ... but it is actually past-life karma, which the souls intends to deal with in this lifetime.

posted January 23, 2021 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
[b]The 4-minutes-earlier Sagittarius Rising Chart

This PLACIDUS chart has Capricorn (+ Mercury + Sun) intercepted in 1st house; Cancer intercepted in 7th house; Gemini on the cusp of both 6th + 7th houses; Sagittarius on the cusp of both 12th + 1st houses and a Pluto-Chiron conjunction in the 12th house.

So ... an issue (relating to your Chiron-wounded Pluto) in the 6th and 12th houses is adversely affecting the 7th and 1st houses - in a way that (until resolved) prevents the positive qualities of Cancer, Capricorn, Pluto and Chiron from being used effectively.

This 6th/12th axis issue will have it's current-life roots in the events of your childhood/adolecence ... but it is actually past-life karma, which the souls intends to deal with in this lifetime.

None of this will apply if your recorded birth time is correct (as that produces a Placidus chart without any interceptions and duplications). ... But, if it does apply, ... during childhood/adolescence, the belief/behaviour relating to that 6th/12th house issue is likely to have been exemplified by a much-loved adult (for whom you have considerable respect). [/B]

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wow!!! i could be sag rising.. i do REALLY like geminis and are constantly surrounded by them. we get a long pretty well. it could make sense also because i do not really have a pronounced or strong jawline either and that's usually associated with capricorn risings. and i actually only have ONE adult who i ever deeply respected for and that was my grandma. no one else in my family i have deep respect. she really helped me grow and learn and be my best self before she passed away in 2016. my child hood was okay but as i got to ages 9 it got way worse. i did not really have parents or people to look up to(as a role model) except for my grandma.

i'm also curious to see the capricorn rising chart but like you said we could focus on the sag one right now! thank you for all your help i really appreciate it and i'm excited to see what else we find out!

also here is my chart in placidus ! http://ibb.co/XXQyhWT

posted January 23, 2021 04:52 PM            

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Large teeth is a feature associated with Sagittarius Rising :-

"......your jocular personality presents itself through your flashy smile, bright eyes, and vibrant style. Your best asset is your legs and walk. Your teeth and smile border perfection (some say they池e horse-like, but in a positive way)." ... http://thoughtcatalog.com/nikki-halsted/ 2020/07/heres-what-your-rising-sign-says-about-your-appearance-according-to-medical-astrology/

Maybe Kannon McAfee (who moderates here, on the Astrology 2.0 board) can help you with this ... as he is recognised within the astrological community as the go-to-guy for chart rectification.

However ... initially, I'm going to focus on the interceptions and duplications that occur in the 4-minutes-earlier birth chart - because (if valid) these [b]do indicate a past-life issue which is being addressed in the current lifetime.

Then ... as requested ... we can look at the "saturn issues" in your Capricorn Rising Chart produced by your recorded birth time ... and perhaps identify some progressions or/and transits to that which fit with the timing of any significant events in your life so far.

However ... since you are likely to be referring to your natal chart (and perhaps that of your sister) for decades rather than just a few years, I'd advise you to seriously consider having the birth time rectified by Kannon McAfee ( at http://astrokannon.wordpress.com )[/B]

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posted January 24, 2021 12:15 AM              

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Originally posted by astrobabes:
omg really.. i always heard capricorns rule bones so i assumed that mean big teeth but i would def say my teeth are almost horse like. and that is so interesting ill be sure to check out Kannon McAfee!!!

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posted January 24, 2021 02:03 AM            

some important life events would be like 9-10 yrs old (2009-2010) is when my parents marriage started to fail. my mom was verbally abused by my dad (he is addicted to weed but laced it with some other things making him quick to anger, childish, impulsive, immature) my mom is an alcoholic she started since maybe i was 12-13? we left my dad in dec 2014, moving into my grandmas. my mom was broken by then and wasnt a mother. my grandma stepped up. taking us to school, getting our mind in track (we were falling off school missing frequently and not doing great in grades) i didnt talk to my dad for 6-8 months after leaving. he finally got his **** together and became less absuive. he stopped doing the other drugs but stuck with weed. my grandma got diagnosed with a rare cancer in march 2016 and died july 2016 i also went to hawaii 2 days after she died because we had planned it before she was diagonased. it was a nice distraction. i visited my aunt and grandparents. my mom got worse and went to vodka when in 2016 when my grandmq (her mom died) she mentally wasnt ok. drinking and taking speed. she was angry and so my sis and i left her in august 2016 and moved back with my dad. my relationship with her is karmic. she lived in a hotel for about 2 and a half years. wasting all the money she got from my grandmas house when it sold. she also was in a toxic absuive relationship in which he manuiplated her in doing speed etc and was a bad influence. he was in her life since 2014. i hate him. anyway my mom ran out of money in nov 2019, after fighting yelling crying laughing we grew closer again and i made her move back in with my dad. my dads changed and is not as abusive and they work it out together. she finally broke up with that abusive boyfriend in july 2020. she also did meth because of him and i found out in august 2020. currently we all live together.

ok i hope this helps in some form and i知 sorry if its too much. i also don稚 necessarily remember a lot because i blocked a lot of my memories. i did travel to hawaii also in 2005, 2012, 2016 and 2018. and utah in dec of 2018.

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posted January 24, 2021 12:43 PM              

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here is my chart in placidus ! http://ibb.co/XXQyhWT

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Note that the progressed MC in this chart will be conjunct natal Moon around age 12years and 6months. ... So, if the natal MC is correct, I'd expect you to have experienced an emotionally traumatic event around that time.

Moreover, Progressed Mercury makes an exact 36th harmonic aspect to natal Saturn/"grandmother" at that time. ... So,I'd expect that event to involve your grandmother.

And ... because Progressed Venus had also just completed it's passage over your natal Pluto-Chiron and was now making an exact sextile to natal Uranus, that event is likely to have been the unexpected diagnosis and death of your grandmother.

But ... since that actually happened in 2016 (rather than age 12+), my guess is that your natal MC needs to be adjusted (for an earlier birth time, and perhaps by as much as 12 clock minutes earlier than the recorded time).

However ... I am only guessing, and do not have the experience to do any more than that. ... So, you really need to pursue this with an experienced "rectification astrologer", such as Kannon McAfee.

posted January 24, 2021 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

Note that the progressed MC in this chart will be conjunct natal Moon around age 12years and 6months. ... So, [b]if the natal MC is correct, I'd expect you to have experienced an emotionally traumatic event around that time.

Moreover, Progressed Mercury makes an exact 36th harmonic aspect to natal Saturn/"grandmother" at that time. ... So,I'd expect that event to involve your grandmother.

And ... because Progressed Venus had also just completed it's passage over your natal Pluto-Chiron and was now making an exact sextile to natal Uranus, that event is likely to have been the unexpected diagnosis and death of your grandmother.

But ... since that actually happened in 2016 (rather than age 12+), my guess is that your natal MC needs to be adjusted (for an earlier birth time, and perhaps by as much as 12 clock minutes earlier than the recorded time).

However ... I am only guessing, and do not have the experience to do any more than that. ... So, you really need to pursue this with an experienced "rectification astrologer", such as Kannon McAfee.

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okay thats really interesting! i will but do you think you could explain the karma with the capricorn rising?
and if i am a sag rising do you have any advice on how to deal with that karma?

posted January 25, 2021 05:34 AM              

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Originally posted by astrobabes:

okay thats really interesting! i will but do you think you could explain the karma with the capricorn rising?
and if i am a sag rising do you have any advice on how to deal with that karma?

i also put the time 12 minutes earlier and my libra mc is degrees 16!! if that means anything. i understand you池e not as experienced as Kannon but your input and knowledge is still really insightful and i sincerely appreciate all the time and energy you are putting into this. thank you again.

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A birth time of 9 clock minutes earlier than your recorded birth time gives an MC of 17Libra07, and results in a progressed MC which was conjunct the natal Moon throughout March to July 2016. ... So, IF the indicated event was/is the diagnosis and death of your grandmother, my guess is that you were born 9 clock minutes earlier than the time recorded on your birth certificate.
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do you think you could explain the karma with the capricorn rising?
and if i am a sag rising do you have any advice on how to deal with that karma?

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Since you have already identified Saturn (the planet of karma) as a prominent influence in your life - what strikes me immediately is that your Jupiter-Saturn mid-point is at 02Taurus50 ... conjunct the resolution degree of your Moon-Neptune-NorthNode Tsquare.

And that your Sun-Saturn-Pluto form a search triangle.
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Neptune in Aquarius/1st is conjunct your South Node. ... So, being unable to clearly see yourself as others see you is preventing you from developing the Leo qualities that your North Node is striving for in this lifetime. And the squares from Neptune and North Node to Moon in (addictive) Scorpio/7th house (of intimate others) indicates that staying within your comfort zone (of already developed South Node qualities) was Neptune's mechanism for escaping the potential damage of having an alcoholic mother. ... However, that Jupiter-Saturn midpoint in (when-the-going-gets-tough, the-tough-get-going) Taurus/4th house (of psychological foundations) is screaming "as an adult, you no longer need to hide your light under a bushel. ... So, become the (North Node in Leo) star that you were born to be." ... And my guess is that was something that the grandmother whom you adored (Jupiter/Saturn) was always impressing upon you and your sister?

So ... grandma can no longer be with you physically, but Saturn is still around to kick your adult backside as/when you are choosing to feature rather than star in this current lifetime.

However ... you have not yet realised that grandma was a karmic gift to you from Saturn, as a reward for a past life that was well-lived. ... And her kicks are just a mechanism for "keeping you on track" in the current lifetime.

So, might that Sun-Saturn-Pluto triangle be searching for that path/track?*

posted January 25, 2021 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Since you have already identified Saturn (the planet of karma) as a prominent influence in your life - what strikes me immediately is that your Jupiter-Saturn mid-point is at 02Taurus50 ... conjunct the resolution degree of your Moon-Neptune-NorthNode Tsquare.

And that your Sun-Saturn-Pluto form a [b]search triangle.
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Neptune in Aquarius/1st is conjunct your South Node. ... So, being unable to clearly see yourself as others see you is preventing you from developing the Leo qualities that your North Node is striving for in this lifetime. And the squares from Neptune and North Node to Moon in (addictive) Scorpio/7th house (of intimate others) indicates that staying within your comfort zone (of already developed South Node qualities) was Neptune's mechanism for escaping the potential damage of having an alcoholic mother. ... However, that Jupiter-Saturn midpoint in (when-the-going-gets-tough, the-tough-get-going) Taurus/4th house (of psychological foundations) is screaming "as an adult, you no longer need to hide your light under a bushel. ... So, become the (North Node in Leo) star that you were born to be." ... And my guess is that was something that the grandmother whom you adored (Jupiter/Saturn) was always impressing upon you and your sister?

So ... grandma can no longer be with you physically, but Saturn is still around to kick your adult backside as/when you are choosing to feature rather than star in this current lifetime.

However ... you have not yet realised that grandma was a karmic gift to you from Saturn, as a reward for a past life that was well-lived. ... And her kicks are just a mechanism for "keeping you on track" in the current lifetime.

So, might that Sun-Saturn-Pluto triangle be searching for that path/track?*

[*"People with a natal search triangle always look for an abstract goal or ideal, and they are often gripped by a yearning for a better world. ... They have a strong inner motivation to serve the truth and to make wise decisions. They are suited to working on long-term projects and can wait patiently until success comes of its own accord. They work continuously with the same dedication as at the start and know that everything takes time" ... (From Aspect Pattern Astrology, by the Hubers - but one can almost hear your grandmother saying the same thing.)
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It actually has been really tough to embody my Leo north node. Since I am a twin, i naturally gained more attention and questions when i was young and always wanted to hide from such attention. my sister and i were able to use each other in a more comfort way so that we would not need to talk or engage with a lot of people. due to us being bombarded by people at a young age we wanted the exact opposite. in our relationships with friends we were often looked over, ignored and not treated with much respect. it was hard for us to speak up and say when something bothered us or even voice an opinion at all. i got so used to others never asking what i wanted or what i thought- even if i did its not like they would hear me. however, with this we left our high school graduated earlier and became much happier. we only went to school because our grandma voiced how important it was. right when my life was changing (no longer having a mom, not talking to my dad, leaving my dad) my sister and i did a whole 360 and completely changed our outlook on life and focused on school and on us. i do believe, us leaving our high school focusing on ourselves for once it was the best decision i have ever made. (in a way showing that leo north node and respecting my feelings and my opinions and acting on such)

as you also said, i do think my grandma really portrayed saturn in my life when i did not have him yet. she taught me responsibility, respect, fairness and equality. i looked up to her and without that i dont know where i would be right now. it makes sense she was a karmic gift. i do think being a twin in this current life is also a karmic gift because i have never been alone in my life. the comfort of knowing someone is always there has really made us able to look past all that we went through and take it as lessons and continue to grow.

also to add on that leo north node, i have completely changed since my high school years and i have learned to speak up when needed and that my feelings are valid and important just like anyone else. it is a bit hard to speak up at time in regards to friends but i'm working on it! especially now since my progressed moon is in leo and i think that is helping me embody such qualities. so in that sense, am i working on the karmic energy in my birth chart by becoming my leo north node self?

with that also said, with my natal chart and all it is show i lived a good past life? i thought with all this saturn and stubbornness in a past life i was care free and selfish and in this life i need to focus on not being like that? and pluto in 12h, i thought it meant i had power in a past life before? (i'm not entirely sure though)

lastly, as you mentioned all the 7h and karmic relationships, i have noticed that everyone in my life (just something simple as friends) is that i share a past life karmic connection with them. every single person i know, has some sort of connection of a past life. i also noticed that i tend to only care about those who i have a past life connection with. if i dont feel a connection, more times than not, i dont share a past life connection with them. is that normal? i also tend to transform all my deep friends that i care about. all my best friends that i am close with, always change in some form. does that have to deal with my karma? i do like helping people find who they are, share spirituality, learn more about themselves etc. is that a debt in a past life that i need to do in this life? it would make sense if so.

again thank you for your time

posted January 25, 2021 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
A birth time of 9 clock minutes earlier than your recorded birth time gives an MC of 17Libra07, and results in a progressed MC which was conjunct the natal Moon throughout March to July 2016. ... So, IF the indicated event was/is the diagnosis and death of your grandmother, my guess is that you were born 9 clock minutes earlier than the time recorded on your birth certificate

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wow!! that would make sense. i can't believe i am sag rising. although, like you said i will look more into it to make sure but it definitely sounds like a good possibility. without your help i probably would not have been as aware as i am now about this!!

posted January 27, 2021 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
You appear to be experiencing (in this current lifetime) what is known as [b]group karma ... where several souls are interacting with each other to complete something which was not completed when they were together in a previous lifetime.

If so, you will probably have found yourself staring intently at strangers whom you are meeting for the first time ... because, at the soul level, you are "recognising" them from the past life. (I have experienced this myself, and it made the other person(s) very uncomfortable at our first meeting.)[/B]

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that makes sense! okay so to help with saturn and his restrictions/lessons in this life, i just need to embody my leo north node self and work on my group karma? would you say me helping others find themselves/find spirituality etc is helping with that karma?

posted January 28, 2021 12:00 PM              

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Originally posted by astrobabes:
that makes sense! okay so to help with saturn and his restrictions/lessons in this life, i just need to embody my leo north node self and work on my group karma? would you say me helping others find themselves/find spirituality etc is helping with that karma?

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I'd say that Saturn (and all of it's trials + tribulations) is helping you to become the Moon in Scorpio/10th house woman that will achieve something lasting-and-worthwhile in her current lifetime.

posted January 29, 2021 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
I'd say that Saturn (and all of it's trials + tribulations) is helping you to become the Moon in Scorpio/10th house woman that will achieve something lasting-and-worthwhile in her current lifetime.

And ... yes, [b]part of that will involve "helping others find themselves/find spirituality" - just as you have done in past lifetimes.[/B]

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