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Topic: Persona Charts and Synastry
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 16, 2014 06:18 PM
Of course. It's just a few-year-long analisys of one individual and your connection with him from every possible angle, there's nothing unusual about it  ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 16, 2014 06:26 PM
One must admire the talent for observation and determination to get to the heart of the matter that Ceri has. I've learnt much from her analysis.------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 16, 2014 06:42 PM
Hey, have you done your Priapus persona? If yes, did you see any connection between the chart and what you desperately want in life?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 16, 2014 06:51 PM
You ask me?------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 16, 2014 06:56 PM
All of you.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 16, 2014 07:02 PM
How do you read it as something you want, planetary pattern or Sun-Moon signs/houses or major aspects to natal chart?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 16, 2014 07:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Of course. It's just a few-year-long analisys of one individual and your connection with him from every possible angle, there's nothing unusual about it 
Well you obviously werenīt around back in the day, but he is not the only one I have analyzed.... thoroughly. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 16, 2014 07:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: One must admire the talent for observation and determination to get to the heart of the matter that Ceri has. I've learnt much from her analysis.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 16, 2014 07:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Hey, have you done your Priapus persona? If yes, did you see any connection between the chart and what you desperately want in life?
 my Priapus-Venus: 8.30 Virgo his Priapus-Mars: 7.44 Virgo
I rest my case. lol
EDIT oh my natal Venus: 6.07 Capricorn his natal Mars: 11.01 Virgo
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 16, 2014 07:31 PM
Oops, I see that Cappy means Priapus comparison in synastry then. I just compared it with my natal chart, POF conjunct my ASC exact, and that's all.Ceri, isn't that male-female archetype, something Leeloo pointed out to me. I guess Leeloo has a date today as I don't see her on LL, our lucky girl. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Since you mentioned I also had in mind discussing the 8th harmonic (and 4th harmonic) with you, but am undecided if doing it on here or opening a new thread. the link you posted got my attention too, a few months ago I was waking up several times with the name of "The knights of the silver Rose" and alternated with "the knights of the sacred rose", I didnīt find any traces of this in the net, but interestngly one of these mornings I would find a silver rose lying outside the window-door to my sleeping room. The wind must have blown it there from somewhere (you know of course it was an artificial rose, and actually only the head/ petals, not the stem). But still the words "silver rose" or "sacred rose" intrigued me.
Very interesting synchronicites.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I finally managed to have a decent look at his AMOR - my natal comparision. I think this might be the most important configuration. It is not exact, no, but it still got my attention, oh yes, certainly. 3 crosses, well, of course i used asteroids, but still. How is it called and what does it mean? I also found it interesting where my name asteroid falls.
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This is basically the Zodiac, I think - completion. That's why I pay attention to semisextiles, they seem to be a very harmonious aspects blending seemingly very different energy (adjacent Zodiac signs), but always on the principle Yin/Yang. What I mean is that I think the purpose for us is to activate the whole zodiac within our charts. Theoretically, an illuminated soul reaching the peak of his spiritual evolution should have the whole zodiac activated in his chart, all signs equally. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: A very very loose Sun-Venus-DW:his AP Sun trine my Venus (3) his AP Venus quinkunx my Sun (2-3) conjunctions ------------- AP Mars-Union conjunct Uranus (1-2) AP LUST conjunct VALENTINE (3) AP VALENTINE conjunct Mars (0) AP VALENTINE conjunct LUST (3) AP VALENTINE conjunct ASC (2) AP AMOR conjunct GUINEVERE exact AP MOIRA conjunct Moon (1) AP Vertex conjunct my name exact AP Chiron conjunct my name (1) AP Antivertex conjunct LANCELOT exact AP Moon conjunct DESC (2) AP Moon widely conjunct SN (5-6) - just mentioning it because it is a DW AP Venus conjunct EROS (2) AP Venus conjunct Vertex (2) AP Venus conjunct DESTINN exact AP NN conjunct CUPIDO exact AP Jupiter opposite JUNO (1) AP JUNO opposite JUNO (1) AP Eros conjunct Pluto (1) AP EROS conjunct APHRODITE (3) AP APHRODITE conjunct APHRODITE exact
It's not as bad as you said, on the contrary  IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Oops, I see that Cappy means Priapus comparison in synastry then. I just compared it with my natal chart, POF conjunct my ASC exact, and that's all.Ceri, isn't that male-female archetype, something Leeloo pointed out to me. I guess Leeloo has a date today as I don't see her on LL, our lucky girl.
 Yes, I guess Ceri and MrSag would be like two peas in a pod, "Priapusly" speaking  IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by wonderingwoman: I am totally new to persona charts and I have a question for a venus persona chart I just did.What would moon conjunct at 1 degree conjunct Aries ASC at 0 degrees signify? Venus is in capricorn 11th house.
Your Venus persona ASC is at Aries point in Aries? Love, beauty or art are very important to you, and you probably are very proactive in love. Love is regenerative and marks new beginnings. Your Moon there enhances that: I'd say if you're not an exceptional artist, then your femininity is very strong on various levels. Look where Mars is for more clues. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Hey, have you done your Priapus persona? If yes, did you see any connection between the chart and what you desperately want in life?
So, Cappy, what do you desperately want in life? That gorgeous man behind the pot?  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 17, 2014 05:00 AM
No not quite bad. I agree.  Well it seems "our zodiac" seems to consist of: his AP Venus his AP NN his AP Jupiter his AP JUNO his AP ASC his AP Pluto his AP KARMA his AP Uranus his AP Neptune his AP MOIRA his AP CUPIDO his AP Chiron his AP Vertex (his AP PSYCHE and his AP "my name" - very loose orb) my n Vertex my n EROS my n DESTINN my n CUPIDO my n DNA my n SAPPHO my n ARTHUR my n Moon my n JUNO my n CHIRON my n name my n KARMA As for semisextiles, I am quite unsure about them. I DO think however they are probably more important if they are part of a planetary pattern. On their own, no I donīt think they are "harmonious", they are made up of different elements and different modalities and different polarities, so their nature is quite different (like the quinkunx). However there is also some inherent tension/ friction in the union of male and female as well. They are not the same. Different polarities, Yin-Yang. I find it rather interesting that the opposition for example combines the same polarities, same modalities and compatible elements (like the sextile). But still I don`t quite think the semisextile is very strong on its own, but maybe I am wrong. Well of course I wish it was! mr Sag`s Venus is semisextile my Sun within a minute of orb. 
In a natal the semisextile might offer a bit of a release point, or well maybe release is the wrong expression, maybe it`s more like a step in growth, an insight that helps gaining a different perspective. I am just thinking about Mr Sag`s own Sun semisextile his Venus, and while his Sun is squared by Saturn, his Venus is tightly trined by his Saturn. The Venus in this picture might be apt to bring a bit of, I donīt know, smoothen out the edges maybe. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 17, 2014 05:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:  Yes, I guess Ceri and MrSag would be like two peas in a pod, "Priapusly" speaking 
Yeah and probably the core urge would be to sit down and discuss calmly the summer weather or the news. That is pretty likely with Venus and Mars, right?  Well since it is in Virgo, it actually might. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 05:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yeah and probably the core urge would be to sit down and discuss calmly the summer weather or the news.That is pretty likely with Venus and Mars, right?  Well since it is in Virgo, it actually might.
No way...Virgo likes it every day  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 17, 2014 05:44 AM
You wouldn`t think it, but earth signs do have connection to the more, well, physical realm. Come to think of it both our Venus are in earth signs and his Mars is too. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 08:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: No not quite bad. I agree.  Well it seems "our zodiac" seems to consist of: his AP Venus his AP NN his AP Jupiter his AP JUNO his AP ASC his AP Pluto his AP KARMA his AP Uranus his AP Neptune his AP MOIRA his AP CUPIDO his AP Chiron his AP Vertex (his AP PSYCHE and his AP "my name" - very loose orb) my n Vertex my n EROS my n DESTINN my n CUPIDO my n DNA my n SAPPHO my n ARTHUR my n Moon my n JUNO my n CHIRON my n name my n KARMA As for semisextiles, I am quite unsure about them. I DO think however they are probably more important if they are part of a planetary pattern. On their own, no I donīt think they are "harmonious", they are made up of different elements and different modalities and different polarities, so their nature is quite different (like the quinkunx). However there is also some inherent tension/ friction in the union of male and female as well. They are not the same. Different polarities, Yin-Yang. I find it rather interesting that the opposition for example combines the same polarities, same modalities and compatible elements (like the sextile). But still I don`t quite think the semisextile is very strong on its own, but maybe I am wrong. Well of course I wish it was! mr Sag`s Venus is semisextile my Sun within a minute of orb. 
In a natal the semisextile might offer a bit of a release point, or well maybe release is the wrong expression, maybe it`s more like a step in growth, an insight that helps gaining a different perspective. I am just thinking about Mr Sag`s own Sun semisextile his Venus, and while his Sun is squared by Saturn, his Venus is tightly trined by his Saturn. The Venus in this picture might be apt to bring a bit of, I donīt know, smoothen out the edges maybe.
I think semisextiles are important, they keep popping up in famous synastries, between major planets, but I'm not quite sure yet how to define them. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 17, 2014 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Well you obviously werenīt around back in the day, but he is not the only one I have analyzed.... thoroughly.
Right, Jude and maybe someone else. I won't blame you for multitasking But that doesn't change the fact you Mr. Sag is on your mind every day, many times a day. quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen:  my Priapus-Venus: 8.30 Virgo his Priapus-Mars: 7.44 Virgo
I rest my case. lol
EDIT oh my natal Venus: 6.07 Capricorn his natal Mars: 11.01 Virgo
You see? ^^ quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Oops, I see that Cappy means Priapus comparison in synastry then. I just compared it with my natal chart, POF conjunct my ASC exact, and that's all.
No, I didn't mean synastry, it's just Ceri's obsession 
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: So, Cappy, what do you desperately want in life? That gorgeous man behind the pot? 
If you want to know you have to figure it out by yourelf  ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 04:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: If you want to know you have to figure it out by yourelf 
hahaha you're so shrewd...maybe tomorrow :tongue: IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 18, 2014 05:14 AM
This is our Priapus (h21) vs. Lilit (h22) Persona comparison, for "BML meeting Priapus" archetype - the compulsion to merge.Woman inside (Lilit)/man outside (Priapus) What I like in this synastry is that the woman (Lilit - the Sun) is exactly on man's Lilit/Lilith/Psyche, while the man's Sun/Priapus is exactly on the woman's Priapus and how they oppose each other. It's not a bad idea to do some "merging" with this one , see how accurate astrology is. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 18, 2014 05:20 AM
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