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Topic: Persona Charts and Synastry
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:21 AM
Cappy, are you upset I called you "retrograde"? I was joking, but sorry if that offended you.IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 05:37 AM
Oh, Cappy, I'm sorry for laughing. You're so adorable when you're rattled and my Sag Mercury forget boundaries sometimes. Anw, we adore you, Cappy.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 10:28 AM
Playing with progressed Persona charts... they are very revealing. In terms of love and synastry, check progressed Venus Persona, by itself or against natals etc.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 10:42 AM
Lol, this is cute. I'm not offended, sillies. I was just too lazy to respond right away.
quote: First of all, you seem very nurturing. Moon ruler of chart, Moon conjunct Venus entering 6th, MC and Talent in Pisces, 6th house emphasis.
Hmm, maybe sometimes I am, by accident  quote: Your talents will bring you good fortune (Jupiter on IC connected to all),
If they don't, I'm gonna hunt you down and spank you  quote: Because Uranus and Neptune conjunct talent on DSC, you must have at least (some) genius 
Ehhh, genius, this burden of mine...Talent conjunct Uranus exact in the natal ^^ quote: Saturn ruler of DSC and NN suggests succes and becoming an authority at some point later in life, maybe involved with teaching or foreign affairs (Talent in 9th). I think at some point you will teach, probably university level.
I can see myself teaching something but the university level is not an option. quote: You do have artistic gifts or interests with Moon/Venus and Neptune there, plus Venus/Moon in 5th, MC in Pisces.
Yep. It's hard not to be at least interested having Neptune, Sun, Saturn, NN, and Venus in the 5th house and a Libra Moon  quote: However, I also see at some point in life you will change your career (Pluto in Scorpio in 5th near Vertex). You will discover a hidden talent (Scorpio, Taurus intercepted).
Career? What career? There are so many things I feel drawn to it's quite likely. But I'd rather juggle 2 or more jobs as long as possible. quote: You will change places too, even countries.
I do want to emigrate and travel but I also wish to find the right place for me asap. I'd like to settle somewhere. quote: it will take some time for you to discover what you really want to do: Sun DSC etc. in Cap.
I already know what I could enjoy and be good at. I just hope I'll have a chance to try these things and that I'll really like them.
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Yay!! Cappy will go far. I wonder if Jupiter Retro in 4th and Uranus/Neptune on DSC will slow this process down, because it's in those houses where you will have to work to own what you got.
I got used to delays -_- ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 10:54 AM
C'mon, Cappy, I thought you were upset...my heart has stopped for a while  IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 10:57 AM
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 01:00 PM
A diversion form Persona charts... Although Persona chart/Composite comparisons are very cool. Showing how that specific Persona (for example Venus, Mars, Moon etc.) finds its place and its fulfillment in the relationship.Tulipe, I need your genius eye on my composite, especially on that Venus Yod. What do you see?  BTW, you've never shown me your composite, put it up if you want. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 01:04 PM
Is this the composite with your love interest?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 01:06 PM
Yes, Cappy. What do you see, you witch?  IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 01:56 PM
Umm, ok, I'm gonna improvise.Mercury in the 1st conjunct NN, Jupiter in th 3rd, Gemini Sun. I see a lot of communication here and it should be flowing. You may not always agree (Sun opposite Mercury) but I'm pretty sure you enjoy talking to each other a lot and your conversations tend to be exciting. I think you have a smiliar a sense of humor, you laugh a lot and you like to tease each other. Neptune in the 1st trine Mars, the 5th house ruler and a Libra Moon. You both appreciate art and might feel tempted to undertake artistic endeavors together. Sun in the 7th, Jupiter conjunct IC. You feel very comfortable in each other presence. Neptune in the 1st conjunct anti-Vertex, and square IC in Pisces probably gives your relationship a dreamy quality. Mars and Saturn in the 8th. It might take some time before you become ready for sex but it's likely gonna be your favorite way to bond. I suppose the attraction between you is strong. Aries Chiron in the 5th may bring healing through physical intimacy. Does it make any sense? If yes then maybe I'll write some more.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Umm, ok, I'm gonna improvise.Wow, Cappy, please go on  Mercury in the 1st conjunct NN, Jupiter in th 3rd, Gemini Sun. I see a lot of communication here and it should be flowing. You may not always agree (Sun opposite Mercury) but I'm pretty sure you enjoy talking to each other a lot and your conversations tend to be exciting. I think you have a smiliar a sense of humor, you laugh a lot and you like to tease each other. TRUE Neptune in the 1st trine Mars, the 5th house ruler and a Libra Moon. You both appreciate art and might feel tempted to undertake artistic endeavors together. TRUE Sun in the 7th, Jupiter conjunct IC. You feel very comfortable in each other presence. Neptune in the 1st conjunct anti-Vertex, and square IC in Pisces probably gives your relationship a dreamy quality. TRUE Mars and Saturn in the 8th. It might take some time before you become ready for sex but it's likely gonna be your favorite way to bond. I suppose the attraction between you is strong. Aries Chiron in the 5th may bring healing through physical intimacy. TRUE, so far
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 03:28 PM
Cool!  Moon conjunct Pluto, whaaa. The intensity of feelings you evoke in each other can frighten you and overwhelm you, sometimes to the point of tears. Do you feel like you're going insane by any chance? Haha, poor Libra. And the Moon's dispositor is in Scorpio, woohoo! I'm sure your sex life is/will be very passionate, a mixture of agression and affection. You're make each other very vulnerable. When it's good, it's bliss and if you or him gets hurt, it's almost paralyzing. In your case words can be literally like knives so you better watch your tongues. You're very protective and supportive of each other, there's a motherly vibe. It's supported by Juno conjunct Ceres trine Vesta. You love to please and you're an affectionate couple. You're probably in physical contact the majority of the time you spend together. Generally, this aspect has a great potential for mutual emotional healing since it tends to make opening up about past and current worries and sharing dark thoughts easier and it contributes to the healing influence of sex. I think that even though Pluto is involved you rarely argue thanks to Libra. Priapus in the 9th...I see it as a desire to merge in this area. Spirituality, travelling, learning, you decide  Scoprio Venus in the 12th. It brings devotion, possessiveness and high empathy to your relationship. Perhaps there's even some telepathy between you. Have I mentioned passion? It's a hidden house but Venus is conjunct ASC and you have the Moon in the 10th. I guess it's hard for you to resist PDA. Nothing heavy though, Virgo MC wouldn't be comfortable with a public foreplay lol. Moon in the 10th...Do you work together or in the same field? Maybe in art? Either way, it makes me think you're supportive of each other's career ambitions and you enjoy your jobs. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 03:35 PM
Yoohoooo! Cappy, you're back, and as cool as usual. Good cat and nice dog.Leeloo, I'm sure what I see you have noticed already. And I can't read composite thoroughly like Cappy does. I just like looking at patterns. So you have not only one but two Yods? Double fated . The Yod with Venus I think is fortunate. With Venus being the apex AND align on the ASC. From the Sun/Chiron base there is also two Wedge. One with Uranus/Vesta, the other with Mercury/North Node. They're like 3 mountains with the highest touching sunrise. Those two Yods look beautiful, a butterfly? The fact that it's being supported by the Angles Crossed makes me think this butterfly is mean to soar. So you're fated to come together (DSC) in an official relationship (MC). I think the Venus Yod is activated first. When you met the chemistry is already off the chart, which compelled you to the DSC. And when you go deeper with the IC, you discover treasured Jupiter, who booted you to your MC. Do you consider axis in configuration? I see Pluto, Mars (both rule ASC), Neptune IC ruler form a Kite on the 5th/11 axis. A Kite with a butterfly? You'll fly high. Hmm, the 5th/11th axis is really sensitive. There's also a Cardinal Grand Cross with Saturn, Pluto, POF and 5th house. The critical Moon form a Grand Trine with critical Psyche and Cupido. I don't know how to interpret those ^^. But with Cap/Cancer intercepted, I think those are good for actions. If you want to fold chart again, I found an axis of about 18-20 degree Pisces/Virgo. It's an symmetrical axis between: your MC - Pluto/11th Saturn - Venus Sun/SN - Neptune Vertex - Mercury/NN DSC - POF 5th house - Jupiter/Pholus Wow, Leeloo, pls teach me how to find Composite like this one, it looks like someone draws it I'll post my composite, although after looking at your beautiful chart, it hurt my eyes to look at mine  ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 03:43 PM
What do you guys think of my ugly composite  ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 03:55 PM
Wow, guys, you're the best, thank you so much, feeling much better, the knives Cappy spoke about have been between us for some time and they hurt like hell, but now I know they'll melt like butter. Butter knives, yay!  Cappy, there's no doubt now: astrology is definitely among your genius talents, I mean it! Everything was spot on! Nothing off! But, still, I want to know what PDA is??? Can't wait to try it, I'd try anything with him  Tulipe, my dear, as usually, the pattern genius, I think you should patent your folding technique. I haven't even noticed the butterfly and I usually look for them. It's so strange, my eyes are so different when I look at my personal charts, my vision is blurrier, it happens the same with the palms, I can't read my palm, don't understand it. I think it could be folded onto MC too, do you think so, Tulipe? Don't worry, with your Jupiter in 7th and the other aspects you have, a more than heavenly composite is waiting for you. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 04:06 PM
Thanks. You know how to stroke my ego ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:10 PM
Tulipe, is this the "tall, dark stranger"?IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Thanks. You know how to stroke my ego
I thank you  But, please, don't forget to tell me what PDA is?  IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 04:13 PM
Aaah, I forgot. Public display of affection Ok, let's see what's going on in Tulipe's chart... ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 04:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Tulipe, is this the "tall, dark stranger"?
Yeah, what kind of relationship is it exactly? That would help a lot.
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:24 PM
Yes Leeloo, you can also fold it by the MC. Your 3rd/9th axis will align with 5th/11th Mars get to reunite with Pluto DSC on Mercury/North Node Karma on POF Chiron on PallasYour chart is so symmetrical, you have many planets pined on an axis, you can fold till you're exhausted . Your 6th/12th and 2nd/8th axis are also at critical degree. So much actions at play.
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Yeah, what kind of relationship is it exactly? That would help a lot.
This is the ex, aka Pluto man, aka tall, dark, hungry man  Hey Leeloo, it's normal we can't see what treasure lies in us, two heads with two pairs of eyes are always better than one.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 26, 2014 04:49 PM
I didn't read all the posts and I probably missed your story. I don't like such a heavy 11th house. It gives me the impression that the couple or one half of it is more into socializing than building intimacy. The rulers of all the romance houses there, ugh. Venus conjunct Uranus, exciting but potentially destructive. Moon in the 6th doesn't seem tempting either, it can decrease the emotional fulfilment. Jupiter conjunct Vertex in the 7th, this probably was your glue for a while cause I see no Saturn aspects here. Saturn in the 10th - you probably weren't too affectionate in public. Eros in the 3rd, I guess you liked drity talk ^^ Mars in the 5th trine Pluto. Sex was probably good, perhaps the best thing about this relationship. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:54 PM
This is definitely a karmic relationship, Tulipe.A perfect fixed cross at 10 deg: something destined. 11th house. Ruler of ASC, DSC and IC conjunct with Mercury, ruler of 5th and 8th. A specific task with this relationship, I think. It is a lucky union, it brings luck, no matter the lesson involved: those planets in 11th and 11th ruled by Jupiter, in mutual reception with Sun, ruler of DSC, and Jupiter trines them and Jupiter is conjunct Vertex and DSC. The direction is like the arrow of the Sag with this relationship, it has its purpose and eventually a lucky one. Perfect trine between Sun and Vertex (anything in Aries 14-15 in your charts?). Union/Pluto on MC: a relationship that brings transformation. The relationship seems to involve a lot of foreign affairs, foreign people or countries, groups, students, social events etc. (9th and 11th). Juno sextile Venus and Jupiter quincunx POF - gathers all benefics, the Sabians for Juno should tell you something about this relationship: Libra 21. A crowd upon the beach. Keywords: friendly attitude, social life, easy life, to enjoy life, relations. Libra 22. A child giving birds a drink at a fountain. Keywords: optimism, friendly relationships, sensible soul, creativity, good intention, naivety. Also, I think the Sabians for 10 deg Fixed Cross should also be something to meditate upon: ASC: Aquarius 10. A popularity that proves ephemeral. Keywords: image, superficiality, change/reversal of situation, crisis after success, relations, social life. IC: Taurus 10. A Red Cross nurse. Keywords: humanitarianism, ideals, spirituality, dedication to a cause. DSC: Leo 10. Early morning dew. Keywords: refreshment, resources, positive attitude, purity, sincerity, optimism. MC: Scorpio 10. A fellowship supper. Keywords: fraternity, friendship, distinction, honour, respect. See, they do have a theme...hm. Going well with 9th/11th axis. Also, NN on IC, a reversed situation, the parable of the Jew and the Treasure, if you know it, a journey inward, a journey home, to the inner personal paradise, going out in the world to discover yourself and to "come home".
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: I didn't read all the posts and I probably missed your story. I don't like such a heavy 11th house. It gives me the impression that the couple or one half of it is more into socializing than building intimacy. The rulers of all the love houses there, ugh. Venus conjunct Uranus, exciting but potentially destructive. Moon in the 6th doesn't seem tempting either, it can decrease the emotional fulfilment. Jupiter conjunct Vertex in the 7th, this probably was your glue for a while cause I see no Saturn aspects here. Saturn in the 10th - you probably weren't too affectionate in public. Eros in the 3rd, I guess you liked drity talk ^^ Mars in the 5th trine Pluto. Sex was probably good, perhaps the best thing about this relationship.
Spot on again, I'm heavily Scorpio and I don't like this composite either. Too much Uranus kills it.
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