posted April 26, 2014 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
My condolences. I hope he didn't cheat on you. That's what popped in my mind for a moment.

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posted April 26, 2014 05:16 PM            

I have my Vertex/AVx at 13 Libra/Aries. The 9th/11th theme describe our relationship, I'm a student in a foreign country in an interracial relationship ^^. I don't know about the Jew and the Treasure, I'll read about it. This relationship confuses me so much, it's hard to let go and I definitely learn some lessons. There's also 3 Thor's Hammer with POF, Moon and Neptune as the apexes. You'll think this is a blessing .

posted April 26, 2014 05:18 PM            

Cappy is the cold, mean shower (but your analysis was spot on, yes

posted April 26, 2014 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
This 11th house alone is shady, especially with Venus. Add to this Mars in the 5th house which is rather casual when it comes to sex opposite Neptune. The dispositor of Mars: the poor Moon in the 6th. The dispositor of Neptune makes no stabilizing aspects. And I don't like Aphrodite-Cupid.

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Ow, I don't think he cheated but what do I know. Saturn exact quintile to Mars but minor aspect doesn't apply, does it?

posted April 26, 2014 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Well, I hope I'm wrong. Sorry if I spoiled your mood.

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No problem, there's a reason why he's the ex ^^. Thanks for your taking time looking, guys. You two are awesome. If this relationship is mean to be, it is. If not, then I still have some treasured memories.

posted April 26, 2014 05:28 PM            

Ok, now it's time for you girls to tell me what you think about my...celeb crush composite

posted April 26, 2014 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Leeloo, could you tell me what is a karmic relationship? Don't all our relationships have karma, thus are karmic relationships?

I have my Vertex/AVx at 13 Libra/Aries. The 9th/11th theme describe our relationship, I'm a student in a foreign country in an interracial relationship ^^. I don't know about the Jew and the Treasure, I'll read about it. This relationship confuses me so much, it's hard to let go and I definitely learn some lessons. There's also 3 Thor's Hammer with POF, Moon and Neptune as the apexes. You'll think this is a blessing .

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Because it will eventually be a blessing, you'll see, especially for you, since your Vx/Avx is there.

In a way, all important love relationships are karmic.
How can I define what a karmic love relationship is for me? I'd say we all have that twinflame and we approach him, life after life, until we are ready for a final meeting. Until then, we live beautiful love stories each life, with parts of him. But some love relationships we have are just preparing us for a great love, the person is like a "guide" because it teaches us some lessons about ourselves, how we are in relationships, what we look for, he is just a small part of the final one, we also learn step by step about this final one, we build him inside us by meeting these "guides". We grow with these "guides", to be ready for a real love in this life and, eventually, for that final meeting in like year 3000 or something

I kinda ranted, sorry

posted April 26, 2014 05:49 PM            

Ok, let's look at Cappy's chart. Although I'm sure Leeloo cover it all, I'll bounce and clap for your reading ^^.

posted April 26, 2014 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
BTW, you can compare his Valentine Persona to your natal to see if and how he falls in love with you (and what part of you makes him fall in love hehehe) and viceversa. I'll do it too, tomorrow Good night!

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posted April 26, 2014 05:55 PM            

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You're welcome. I'm glad you're handling it well.

Ok, now it's time for you girls to tell me what you think about my...celeb crush composite

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OK, I'll indulge you and imagine what it would be for you two to be together. First of all, you need to become a medium or develop some psychic abilities or travel far far away for this relationship to occur: Mercury (ruler 9th) 29 Virgo square Psyche in 9th and opp. Sun, Mercury on 12th cusp. And Yod, and the relationship depends on the Yod with Mercury.

posted April 26, 2014 06:07 PM            

Yow, Priapus/Uranus: psychic sex?

posted April 26, 2014 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Lol, Leeloo, so witty. The chart has so many patterns that are built on Sun and Mars, drive by Pluto/Moon. Maybe this dream relationship will help our Cappy get through her 'Retrogade' period and turn direct on her quest for Mars talent .

Yow, Priapus/Uranus: psychic sex?

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You're so right, the foundation of the Castle is the man, the woman flies high on the roof, she would feel like a spoiled princess, but if the man retreats with his "foundation", the princess could plunge into Plutonian depths.

Yeah, astral sex I guess, hm, Cappy, you lucky one, 'cause anything can happen in astral

posted April 26, 2014 06:20 PM            

Wow, look at my progressed Valentine for the break up time. A Kite with the Cross .

posted April 26, 2014 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
There's so many patterns that I don't know about. Thanks Leeloo, will research on it. So, Cappy, what do you think?

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Some call it Envelope, but I prefer Castle and I've seen composites with it and the feeling around them is Castle here are good images of them, I think it's the only website that has that many patterns gathered together:

http://www.biblenews1.com/astrology/configurations.html#Castle

Cool description for Yod:

A Yod is a Hebrew letter, y, that symbolizes the right hand with the index finger pointing. It symbolizes the Finger of God and represents a crisis or brief time of opportunity, like striking when the iron is hot or taking decisive action. A Yod is in the shape of an isosceles triangle with the base formed by planets, A and B, separated by 60 degrees in opposition to the apex planet, C. When planet A arises, it signals a crisis and the beginning of a window of opportunity to oppose planet C before planet B arrives. To use a baseball analogy, point A would represent the pitcher releasing the ball. The batter would then have to assess the pitch and begin swinging the bat to hit the ball precisely half way between points A and B, which would be directly opposite point C. The difference is that in real life a Yod corresponds to a crisis that must be recognized and handled in the critical timing window. Those who master the function of the Yod, learn to recognize the arrival of the crisis, rise to the challenge, and handle it at the right time. When the crisis arrives, they have a sense of urgency and the poise to deal with it.

A true Yod requires that planet C be faster moving than planets A or B. Thus, the Moon, which is the fastest moving planet could planet A or B, and the Last Adam could never be planet C.

posted April 26, 2014 06:41 PM            

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There's so many patterns that I don't know about. Thanks Leeloo, will research on it. So, Cappy, what do you think?

Wow, look at my progressed Valentine for the break up time. A Kite with the Cross .

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Yeah, good idea, back to Persona charts.

posted April 26, 2014 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I've read some debates on the fastest planet must be at the apex or it's not a Yod, well, the debates haven't finished yet. Why the fastest moving planet is only being brought up for the Yod, I don't understand that. All other patterns don't mention this rule.

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I don't see why it has to be the fastest moving planet, it's pivotal and it's basically triggered by a transit, probably in combination with transits over the sextile. But you could definitely have a Saturn Yod, IMO, it's like breaking free, or Pluto, a transformative event or an ending, the sextile should be more personal, made of personal planets, this is the skill preparing the Yod, and a Neptune Pluto sextile there is generational, not exactly a personal skill. But the apex could be anything...well, that's how I see it, but I'll have to research more

posted April 26, 2014 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I must show that I'm not in love with him anymore or else he won't let me go. The Sabian says it all, I think. Fear is what prompt me to actions.

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posted April 26, 2014 07:00 PM            

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First of all, you need to become a medium or develop some psychic abilities or travel far far away for this relationship to occur

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and the relationship depends on the Yod with Mercury.

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An a possibility for him to break your heart: Saturn, ruler of IC on 29 Scorpio opp. Mars (the man) conjunct Juno.

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turn direct on her quest for Mars talent.

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Yow, Priapus/Uranus: psychic sex?

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Yeah, astral sex I guess, hm, Cappy, you lucky one, 'cause anything can happen in astral

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Hey, how did you know I astralmolest him?

Thanks, it was fun

posted April 26, 2014 07:02 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I don't see why it has to be the fastest moving planet, it's pivotal and it's basically triggered by a transit, probably in combination with transits over the sextile. But you could definitely have a Saturn Yod, IMO, it's like breaking free, or Pluto, a transformative event or an ending, the sextile should be more personal, made of personal planets, this is the skill preparing the Yod, and a Neptune Pluto sextile there is generational, not exactly a personal skill. But the apex could be anything...well, that's how I see it, but I'll have to research more

My Yod's apex is Jupiter and it makes a lot of sense to me to have Jupiter as an apex for a Yod, since Jupiter is fate, after all.

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I agree. Seems those who debate think that when the generational planets form Yod, it would be like many people in a certain time span will have the same Yod in their charts, and it will not be rare anymore. But I think it isn't a sound reason, there'll still be differencies by houses.