posted May 07, 2014 04:18 PM            

What I see is your angles is almost exact on Cappy's natal angles. That Neptune/North Node in 4th is right on my Sun/Mercury, that Jupiter/DSC right on my North Node . I play a role in your North Node path. Ok, I finish my 5 seconds of self-promo now .

Your Uranus at critical degree right on your 3rd cusp, trine Jupiter IC ruler. It seems you relocate a lot, and since Jupiter in 7th house relationship plus POF in 3rd conjunct IC, those moves will lead you to committed relationships, maybe even marriage. Vertex/AVx on 6th/12th axis, you didn't notice the importance of those relationships at first. There's a Yod with Karma, Chiron and Amor, Amor at the apex in 3rd house. During those short trips or at the relocation place, there's a karmic relationship with much pain and healing that build up to be a great love (very literal description but I can't think of anything else ^^).

posted May 07, 2014 05:24 PM            

And yes i agree, I was surprised, but my NN Persona seems to deal with relationships in a way.

Sun-Moon-conjunction.
Venus-Mars-trine
Ruler of ASC and DESC conjunct on IC.
Juno on ASC.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Mercury, the final ruler of the whole chart, too. I think Mercury is the ruler of your present destiny and its aspects/position in the natal should show how or why.

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It makes sense. Mercury is my DESC-ruler in the radical chart as well, oh and disposits SN.

In my radical Chart Merucry is on 25 Sagittarius conjunct my Sun exactly, in 1st house.

Interestingly Mr Sag`s Sun-Moon-MC falls there, too (from 26-28 Sag), so quite a focal synastric stellium

posted May 07, 2014 05:50 PM            

Since we're talking about North Node, I've read some discussions about draconic-natal synastry. Here's what I found (it's a little complicated to describe it by words):

His natal Moon opposite my Draconic Sun, forming a Grand Cross along with my Draconic Moon and North Node (0-1).
Also, his natal Moon forms a Yod to my Draconic Venus and Neptune (0-1) with his Moon the apex. Natally he has a Yod with Moon, Venus, Uranus. My Draconic Venus/Karma/Vesta on his natal Uranus (0-1), my Draconic Neptune on his natal Venus (2). My Sun is on my Venus/Neptune midpoint.
So in term of natal-draconic comparison, we have a Grand Cross and Boomerang Yod that highlight his natal Moon and my draconic Sun.

In the tropical, his Moon opposite my Saturn exact in a Boomerang Yod:

In natal-draconic comparison, my Draconic Saturn on his natal South Node/Karma (0).
His Draconic Moon on my natal North Node (0), oppose my natal Moon/South Node (0) to form a Boomerang Yod again.

Now I can rest knowing I'm not some Scorpio Venus obsessing with what she can't have . I understand why I feel the way I do. But in term of natal-draconic comparison, only the draconic planet person feels the soulful connection?

posted May 07, 2014 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry for the late answer, vintagesoul, I don't have much time to be on the forum lately. I see here a very intense, very "indoorish" relationship> very private, much happening inside the house, look how the Thor's Hammer forms like an arrow head with the Minor Trine between Venus/Neptune Moon and Pluto, the final ruler of the chart. Intensity comes from this configuration and from Pluto. An important relationship bringing transformation and change. I see a Sag/9th house theme pointing to something involving traveling.

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Hi Leeloo,

posted May 08, 2014 05:27 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My Vertex Persona, which appears to be quite strong; I still ponder on what a Vertex Persona might mean. Any insight??

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My angles, Venus opposite Venus, Saturn opposite Saturn, Vertex conjunct Vertex, you were destined to meet me

posted May 08, 2014 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
My angles, Venus opposite Venus, Saturn opposite Saturn, Vertex conjunct Vertex, you were destined to meet me

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posted May 08, 2014 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
the comparision of my NN-Persona and my natal

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What I see here:

your NN ASC falls into your natal 9th, in intercepted Virgo: this is a first clue on how you fulfill your destiny, the first approach is through 9th house issues.
Mercury, NN ruler in 1st suggests a proactive approach is necessary although fate intervenes thorough the triangle with Jupiter and Karma/Pluto.

posted May 08, 2014 08:03 AM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
Hi Leeloo,

Thanks for looking and no worries with any lateness. The arrowhead stuff, highlighted red marks, how do the significance form? I've noticed that in a few charts , sometimes wider than this one. I wasn't sure how to interpret or how they come about.

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It shows the relationship focusing in the tip of the arrow, in this case 4th house/VenusNeptuneMercury.

posted May 08, 2014 08:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I'm sorry to be off-topic but I'm so excited to share with you the missing piece that I was looking for.

Since we're talking about North Node, I've read some discussions about draconic-natal synastry. Here's what I found (it's a little complicated to describe it by words):

His natal Moon opposite my Draconic Sun, forming a Grand Cross along with my Draconic Moon and North Node (0-1).
Also, his natal Moon forms a Yod to my Draconic Venus and Neptune (0-1) with his Moon the apex. Natally he has a Yod with Moon, Venus, Uranus. My Draconic Venus/Karma/Vesta on his natal Uranus (0-1), my Draconic Neptune on his natal Venus (2). My Sun is on my Venus/Neptune midpoint.
So in term of natal-draconic comparison, we have a Grand Cross and Boomerang Yod that highlight his natal Moon and my draconic Sun.

In the tropical, his Moon opposite my Saturn exact in a Boomerang Yod:

In natal-draconic comparison, my Draconic Saturn on his natal South Node/Karma (0).
His Draconic Moon on my natal North Node (0), oppose my natal Moon/South Node (0) to form a Boomerang Yod again.

Now I can rest knowing I'm not some Scorpio Venus obsessing with what she can't have . I understand why I feel the way I do. But in term of natal-draconic comparison, only the draconic planet person feels the soulful connection?

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Very nice, Tulipe. It is common in important synastries to have strong connections between natal/Draco, even more so than Draco/Draco. What about the reverse? His Draco/your natal?

posted May 08, 2014 08:28 AM            

I like how you used Fantasia, I love Fantasia

posted May 08, 2014 08:55 AM            

Ah Cappy, I don't know anything about Merlin and Fantasia, thanks for bringing them up, I must study more about those.

posted May 08, 2014 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Umm, I think so According to iQ "strong visualizers have a strong MERLIN".
Enjoy your salad

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I get lost when study about occultist asteroids. What is a visualizer? or an occultist? astral magic? Not sure how to activate those abilities, as I don't meditate.

posted May 08, 2014 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Umm, I think so According to iQ "strong visualizers have a strong MERLIN".
Enjoy your salad

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Thanks It wasn't bad...I was thinking, while eating the salad (eating and thinking gives bad ideas, BTW lol) that for a real view of your "visualization" skills you should check your Pallas persona: she is responsible with 3rd eye and visual intelligence, seeing patterns in your mind.

Still, here I see houses 6th/10th all connected with strong aspects, so your skills are powerful in terms of talents involving visualization. Also, that 4th house placements show me you probably would be good with home decorating or interior architecture, especially with that 4th/10th seesaw. Would that interest you?

Especially since the Sun is in Cancer too.

posted May 08, 2014 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Leeloo, my natal Moon/South Node is at the release point of his Draconic Moon Yod. So my North Node on his Draco Moon. I wonder how different is the conjunction from Draco planets to tropical Nodes VS tropical planets and tropical Nodes.

Ah Cappy, I don't know anything about Merlin and Fantasia, thanks for bringing them up, I must study more about those.

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I was just thinking about you and our discussion about his Uranus and I think we took a wrong path. It's not about his Uranus or Uranus in general. It's about having an overall strong synastry (many aspects, many love aspects if a love relationship, DW) vs. a weak synastry ( a few aspects, or not many love aspects etc.) vs. a specialized synastry ( a karmic synastry, related to a specific lesson or turning point in life).

I think you have a specialized synastry, centered on the Yod, and probably things should still be happening between you, because until the lesson is learned, fate should bring you together.

I think I had the same case with my ex, a specialized synastry, with a lesson and a turning point for me. He was an "angel" to me, a facilitator. Took me someplace where I found something important for a next stage.

When you are in love, like I was too, it is hard to see things this way, you need a certain detachment.

posted May 08, 2014 09:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I get lost when study about occultist asteroids. What is a visualizer? or an occultist? astral magic? Not sure how to activate those abilities, as I don't meditate.

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To visualize is to imagine things so vividly they seem real. An occultist is someone who studies and is at least good at occult sciences. Magic? I'm not sure what to think about it. If you want do develop your psychic skills, you should work on your chakras, especially the 3rd eye and the crown.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thanks It wasn't bad...I was thinking, while eating the salad (eating and thinking gives bad ideas, BTW lol) that for a real view of your "visualization" skills you should check your Pallas persona: she is responsible with 3rd eye and visual intelligence, seeing patterns in your mind.

Still, here I see houses 6th/10th all connected with strong aspects, so your skills are powerful in terms of talents involving visualization. Also, that 4th house placements show me you probably would be good with home decorating or interior architecture, especially with that 4th/10th seesaw. Would that interest you?

Especially since the Sun is in Cancer too.

And the dispositor, a very talented Moon, in 10th.

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Thank you. I think I would like decorating. Actually, I kinda have a project in my mind for my future apartment/house already

As far as I know Horus tends to be associated with the 3rd eye. But here you are, Pallas:

posted May 08, 2014 09:53 AM            

Cappy, your ASC on my most sensitive point, the release of my Yod, Aphrodite (12 Virgo)

My Sun conjunct your ASC (8)
My Venus conjunct your ASC (5) - that's why I thought your eyes are so impressive hehe
My ASC conjunct your Sun (1)! wow Sun trine Sun

me/you
Jupiter conjunct DSC
Uranus conjunct Moon
MC conjunct Pluto
Neptune conjunct IC
Psyche conjunct Venus
Eros conjunct MC/Psyche (1) lol
Moon conjunct Jupiter (3) - nice one, we could have a lot of fun, eat a lot of food, party like hell
Mars/Pluto trine Venus
Mars trine Mars (2)
Your Jupiter trine Jupiter and NN sextile Mercury

marry me, Cappy!!!!!

Tulipe,

you/me
your ASC conjunct my IC (2) awww
Jupiter conjunct Eros
IC conjunct Moon (7) awww
famous Moon/SN/Venus
Lilith conjunct Sun: you dark goddess!
Vertex conjunct Mercury
Venus/Pluto near MC
Sun/Mercury conjunct NN/Neptune: show me the right path, Tulipe!
Uranus/Saturn and Neptune in my 12th: bring out the hidden for me, Tulipe! lol
MC conjunct Psyche
Mars opp Mars/Pluto: let's fence!
Moon opp Jupiter, Moon semisquare Jupiter: I love!
Venus sextile Venus
Sun/Mercury trine Moon and Jupiter
Sun sextile Mercury

marry me, Tulipe!!!
LOL

posted May 08, 2014 10:11 AM            

Horus definitely the 3rd eye, from the Egyptian side. But Pallas, springing from her father's divine head, is his Europ. counterpart in terms of 3rd eye.