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Topic: Persona Charts and Synastry
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 08, 2014 09:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Thanks. I forgot to ask - both when it comes to n-p and p-p comparisons?
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 08, 2014 09:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by twinky: His Eros persona Chart Asc. and MC are exactly conjunct my ErosP.Chart Asc/Mc! Which are exactly conjunct to our Composite cusps.Does any comparison to the composite mean anything?
Yes, I think so. In this case it shows that your relationship emphasizes your erotic nature, for both of you.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 09:52 AM
Cool. Let's see what attracted me to my celeb crush O_o------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 08, 2014 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I can tell you so far for the Mars Personas I've seen hard aspects (squares/oppositions) mean a very sexual person.
in that case: In my Mars Persona ---------------------- [Moon on 28 Virgo conjunct ASC on 00 Libra] opposite [Vx on 1 Aries on DESC on 00 Aries] square [Mars on 29 Gem on MC on 1 Cancer] ---- naturally the MaP IC has to be conjunct n VESTA on 1 Cap exact  2) [EROS on 9 Cap conj. VALENTINE on 10 cap] square Pluto on 11 Libra in 1st
33) Neptune on 11 Sag in 3rd squares JUNO on 12 Virgo in 12th 4) LUST On 15 cap in 4th squares Jupiter on 15 Aries in 7th 5) [Sun on 5 Sag conj. Mercury on 4 Sag] in 3rd square AMOR on 5 Pisces in 5th
6) saturn on 2 Leo in 10th square Uranus on 4 Scorpio in 2nd
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twinky Knowflake Posts: 70 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 08, 2014 09:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Yes, I think so. In this case it shows that your relationship emphasizes your erotic nature, for both of you.
Thank you! I actually checked our Composite Eros Persona chart and it really describes our relationship in a very deep romantic level. This is exactly how it feels, at least from my part. It is like a hidden composite describing all these feelings. Sun 12th house conjunct Asc. Moon 4th (IC) house conjunct Mars (IC)/Pluto (3rd) Venus 11th house opposite Neptune
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 08, 2014 09:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: using 3 degree orbs and only conj./ oppmy MaP-his MaP -------------- ASC conjunct Saturn MC conjunct Vertex exact Avx conjunct Saturn NN conjunct ASC-Uranus Nn conjunct LUST (3) Sun conjunct VALENTINE exact Moon conjunct Saturn Venus conjunct Pluto Venus conjunct KARMA (his MaPPluto-KARMA conjuncts my n DNA exact) Mars conjunct Vx Mars conjunct Moon Uranus conjunct Mars-Union Pluto conjunct EROS-APHRODITE JUNO conjunct Sun VESTa opposite JUNO-Jupiter VALENTINE-EROS conjunct VALENTINE PSYCHE conjunct PSYCHE
I see a lot of karmic aspects in Mars-Mars comparison. If not karmic, a little on the S&M side  Venus Pluto and Pluto Eros Aphrodite are awesome for great intimacy and a very erotic experience. And Mars Uranus Union is very very electric and exciting, wild sex, IMO. In the natal-mars comparison, I see: for you, you would want him as an overall partner (Moon, Mars IC and Sun/Moon, Moon/Saturn, Juno/Jupiter) for him, more sexual and more Plutonian for both, I see a Venus-Pluto theme, with him being Pluto. A little bit on the dark side, Heathcliff-Cathy... and S&M vibes  IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 10:01 AM
This is creepy O_o------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 08, 2014 10:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by twinky: . Sun 12th house conjunct Asc. Moon 4th (IC) house conjunct Mars (IC)/Pluto (3rd) Venus 11th house opposite Neptune
Great aspects for what you are describing, Twinky! By the book 
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 08, 2014 10:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: in that case:In my Mars Persona
Now that you've posted it, Ceri ...very intense Mars Persona you have there! Lots of Fire...and Scorpio Uranus in 2nd. Lots of fantasy... Not far from a dominatrix also (with Cap involved) Well, you asked for my opinion  IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7043 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 10:11 AM
My Juno persona to his Juno persona Sun conjunct pluto Venus & Mercury conjunct pluto Jupiter opp Mercury exact Jupiter opp Kaali Uranus conjunct Mars Neptune opp asc NN conjunct pallas Nn conjunct Eros Chiron opp pallas Chiron Conjunct vesta Vertex opp neptune exact Pallas opp sun Pallas conjunct karma exact Juno conjunct vertex Juno opp cupido exact Vesta opp vertex Vesta conjunct pholus Pholus opp psyche Pholus opp amor Vesta cobjunct valentine Pholus conjunct asc Eros opp Sun Eros conjunct karma Psyche conjunct moon Psyche conjunct chiron Amor opp venus Lilith conjunct pallas Lilith conjunct Eros Valentine conjunct vertex Valentine opp cupido exact Lust opp juno Lust opp union exact Union opp pholus Union conjunct psyche Union opp valentine Karma conjunct lust exact Asc opp pholus exact Asc conjunct psyche Asc conjunct amor Asc opp valentine exact Mc conjunct sun Mc conjunct karma.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 10:12 AM
My Venus persona Asc is only almost a degree away from my draco Asc O_o------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 08, 2014 10:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: My Venus persona Asc is only almost a degree away from my draco Asc O_o
You are meant to become a glorious beauty or a famous artist  Or a shameful lover... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18203 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 08, 2014 10:26 AM
Casanova Mars Persona.Notice the Kite with apex in Mars conjunct Vertex 8th house.  Mars opposite Saturn in Capricorn 2nd, Moon Jupiter opposite Pluto, Mars square Venus, Venus square Saturn, Venus conjunct NN and Cupid, Mercury square Neptune (for beautiful lies and romantic talk) Mercury square Uranus in Scorpio, Lilith in the 1st (and Cap), Pluto on MC and ASC in Sag for ""adventure"  Kite in Juno/Jupiter/Moon shows a soft spot (for women). And, of course, Sun conjunct Lust. Pretty awesome, no? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 10:46 AM
quote: or a famous artist
The most probable option  Ok, here's what I found: My Venus persona - his natal Ascendants in the same sign Asc conjunct Moon under 1 Moon conjunct Dsc and Chiron Sun conjunct SN Mercury opposite Venus and Vertex My Mars persona - his natal Venus conjunct Venus, 1 deg MC conjunct Venus Jupiter conjunct NN Asc conjunct Saturn Sun on the Dsc Sun conjunct Chiron My Moon persona - his natal Asc conjunct Venus Jupiter and Venus conjunc MC Mercury conjunct Moon under 1 IC conjunct MC Saturn conjunct SN I think I could be his type too  ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 11:04 AM
The amount of excitmenet I'm getting from discovering patterns in and between these charts is ridiculous  For example: Our Mars persona Moons conjunct by 1,5 degree. On my natal Jupiter. His MP Jupiter conjunct the Moons (Edit: oops, not true. I mistook the charts). Angles in the same signs and order. NN conjunct MC DW. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.
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page one Knowflake Posts: 541 From: USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 11:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Casanova Mars Persona.Notice the Kite with apex in Mars conjunct Vertex 8th house.  Mars opposite Saturn in Capricorn 2nd, Moon Jupiter opposite Pluto, Mars square Venus, Venus square Saturn, Venus conjunct NN and Cupid, Mercury square Neptune (for beautiful lies and romantic talk) Mercury square Uranus in Scorpio, Lilith in the 1st (and Cap), Pluto on MC and ASC in Sag for ""adventure"  Kite in Juno/Jupiter/Moon shows a soft spot (for women). And, of course, Sun conjunct Lust. Pretty awesome, no?
Mars opp Saturn. Who would have thought? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 11:21 AM
^Maybe he was insecure and overcompensated.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 08, 2014 11:38 AM
Thank you Leeloo,"see a lot of karmic aspects" How do you see karmic aspects? I am asking cause I have seen so many different takes on karma in relationship charts. I personally do not view them as negatively (unless dealing with Saturn-Pluto-Nessus-square, opposite Moon-Chiron-Dejanira probably.) but on its own I have a more neutral perspective on Karma, to me it just signifies that oftent here is a strong glue/ bond between two people because of some kind of "working out" they have to do. But that is how I see it. not sure how you do. lol "If not karmic, a little on the S&M side " LOL And I do not view either of us as especially s&M. Now if you had said M&M, you know chocolate, mmhh....
"Venus Pluto and Pluto Eros Aphrodite are awesome for great intimacy and a very erotic experience." I liked seeing that. " And Mars Uranus Union is very very electric and exciting, wild sex, IMO." LOL Not bad though
"for both, I see a Venus-Pluto theme, with him being Pluto" Interestingly we both have a Venus-Pluto-square natally and it comes up in the composite again. ". A little bit on the dark side, Heathcliff-Cathy... and S&M vibes " It is so weird. Yes, I saw that, too, astrologically, that is, but I donīt feel any kind of dark stuff around him, not even the intoxicating way (there is a lot of intoxication involved on my side though). btw I hadn`t checked before, but in the MaP my natural LILITH is oon the DESC on 29 Pisces.
and my Priapus on 26 Libra. so that means my MaP LILITH conjuncts his n ASC and also conjuncts his MaP PHOLUS-PRIAPUS-conjnction on 00 Aries 
his maP LILITH is exactly on his MaP KARMA-Pluto and thus conjunct my MaP Venus.
I suppose that emphasizes the picture even more. BTW I love how you do your interpretation. So precice and to the point. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 11:41 AM
I have a Taurus Moon in the Moon and Venus persona. Is it significant?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
page one Knowflake Posts: 541 From: USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 11:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: ^Maybe he was insecure and overcompensated.
Maybe.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 08, 2014 11:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Not far from a dominatrix also (with Cap involved)Well, you asked for my opinion 
And I am glad I did. Dominatrix. Well, I was surprised to be honest, I`ve been pretty much living in celibacy all my life, but lately I start thinking I might have sublimated something a little bit too much.  (I suppose it is cause it is all-or-nothing for me and nothing was ever "all")
As for his Mars chart 1) [ASC conj. natal VALENTINE on 19 Scorpio exact conjunct Uranus on 22 Scorpio] opposite Chiron on 18 Taurus, square NN on 20 Leo in 9th 2) [Mercury conj Jupiter conj JUNO, all on 18 Virgo in 10th] square Neptune in 19 Sag on the 2nd house cusp
3) Sun on 11 Virgo conjunct MC on 9 Virgo, trine AMOR on 11 Cap exact (I know it is a trine, but it is exact)
4) Moon on 2 Cancer in 8th conj Vertex, and square PRIAPUS-PHOLUS on 00 Aries in 4th - and yes, totally making a grand Cross with my MaP Moon, ASC, DESC, Vertex, Mars and natal VESTA
5) EROS conj. APHRODITE in Libra in 11th, square AMOR in Cap in 2nd (looks like a tough time to pick). IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 11:56 AM
Ceri, post your Mars persona chart please. I'm not sexually active either and I'm curious.This is mine: P.S. Are there any similarities to your natal chart? ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 1417 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted April 08, 2014 12:34 PM
We do have Atlantis conjunct Atlantis in synastry, so i decided to do Atlantis persona chart comparisons (and to each others natals as well). The results were quite telling. Atlantis persona to Atlantis persona, me first Sun conjunct Sun 1 Moon conjunct Neptune exact Jupiter conjunct Mercury 2 Jupiter conjunct Juno 1 Chiron opposite Psyche exact Vertex opposite Psyche 1 Eros conjunct Mars 1 Psyce trine Eros exact Amor opposite Angel exact Union conjunct Mars exact Angel conjunct Pluto exact Angel conjunct ASC 1 Atlantis conjunct Pluto exact Atlantis conjunct ASC exact DNA conjunct Venus 1 DNA conjunct Karma exact DNA conjunct Atlantis exact ASC conjunct Mars exact My Atlantis persona - his natal
Sun conjunct Atlantis 1 Moon conjunct Neptune 2 Moon conjunct Eros 1 Venus conjunct Union 1 Jupiter conjunct Valentine 0 Jupiter conjunct IC 1 Saturn conjunct Moon 1 Saturn conjunct DNA 1 Karma opposite Psyche 0 Valentine conjunct Moon 1 Valentine conjunct DNA 0 Atlantis conjunct Pluto 0 ASC conjunct Uranus 2 His Atlantis persona - my natal
Sun conjunct Atlantis 1 Mercury conjunct DNA 0 Venus conjunct Venus 1 Mars opposite Mars 1 Saturn conjunct Union 1 Uranus conjunct Lilith 1 NN opposite Juno 1 NN opposite Valentine 1 Chiron opposite Lilith 0 Juno conjunct DNA 0 Karma conjunct Sun 2 Eros opposite Psyche 2 Psyche conjunct NN 1 Union conjunct Angel 1 Lust conjunct Moon 0 Lust conjunct Eros 0 Angel conjunct ASC 1 Atlantis conjunct Sun !!! MC conjunct Moon 0 MC conjunct Eros 1 IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29280 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 08, 2014 12:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Ceri, post your Mars persona chart please. I'm not sexually active either and I'm curious.This is mine: P.S. Are there any similarities to your natal chart?
no, no similiarities to my natal. Venus-Neptune opposition is interesting there, can mean sublimation of course. I am sexually non-active by choice, but not by philosophy if that makes sense. It is not really a moral thing for me, it just doesn`t happen. And I havenīt really felt attracted to that many men in my life either, or at least usually I am good in rationalizing it away. Aquarius-Moon-detachment-mode. The spark I feel around Mr Sag simply blindsided me. Felt even uncomfortable, as I have no clue what to do with these feelings. I do think however, at the end of day, I actually am a more sexual person than I was aware of, it was just something that I would not allow to surface. Possibly some sexual abuse or at least innuendo taking place in earlier years of my life, that i do not quite remember (I remember some "situations", but am not sure they "suffice" to explain my retreat into mys own mental space). Also a lot of insecurities. And before I had to somehow confront and learn to deal with the insecurities and complexes, I apparently preferred taking myself "out of the game", so to speak. that in a nutshell is why I think I refrained, not because I did not feel attraction at all (I did, I jsut was quite adept at living in selfdenial and sublimating and suppressing and rationalizing away - until Mr Sag crossed my path, and somehow everything got turned on its head. ). my Mars persona
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 08, 2014 01:06 PM
Thanks. So you're attracted to him sexually but hide it? Are you friends or are you a distant admirer?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |