posted June 07, 2014 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Comparison with the natals:

ASC conjunct his Eros opposite my natal Moon

Psyche conjunct his Cupido

Juno conjunct my natal IC opposite his natal Moon

Alma conjunct my IC opp his natal Moon

POF conjunct my Saturn

Saturn/Karma conjunct my DSC by 3

Mars conjunct my Moon (this is interesting! my natal Mars conjuncts our normal comp Moon - here at 0 Libra - and this composite Lunar Mars conjuncts my natal Moon wow!)

Priapus/Vertex/Moon conjuncts my Amor/Priapus and my natal Venus and opposes his natal Jupiter - so Lunar Moon and my Venus are conjunct by app. 4 deg. - my Venus makes a cross with his Mars, Neptune and Jupiter.

Eros exactly conjuncts my Venus and our Cross.

Mercury conjuncts my Sun opposes his Sun

Sun conjuncts my Mars and his ASC/Valentine/Lust

Venus conjunct his Vesta (almost 1 deg.) and my Mercury and squares my ASC/DSC

Union conjuncts my Valentine

MC sextiles my natal Sun and ASC trines his Sun and conjuncts his Moon.

Amor trines my natal Venus and his own Amor

Vesta conjuncts his natal Venus - this is interesting too - Lunar Venus conjuncts his natal Vesta, his natal Venus conjuncts Lunar Vesta

Some pretty significant overlays, I'd say...

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So both Moons, both Suns, both Venuses and love asteroids are activated. I'd say it's no less significant than the Sun persona Composite. I like those Vesta and Union aspects btw, love and devotion.

posted June 07, 2014 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I like those Vesta and Union aspects btw, love and devotion.

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I love them too

posted June 07, 2014 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I love them too

How's yours? Quick, before Cappy comes back!

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I already posted it, I only looked at connections to natal planets, I'm too lazy now .

posted June 07, 2014 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:

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King of the North!

posted June 07, 2014 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Oh yes, then we can do the comp for Venus-Mars too. Ah, I'm wiggling in my chair, I'm excited.

Moon persona composite:

Love stellium!! Just kidding, that love stellium in Leo surely come with a lot of pride . Moon conjunct Jupiter and Ceres in Virgo in 3rd house, our love language is doing services to each other lol.
Comparing to the natals:
Composite IC/MC on my Moon and Nodal axis.
Composite stellium on my natal IC.
Composite Vertex/Juno on my DSC.
*facepalm* I knew my Moon is activated, and the IC too, double Moon feelings.
Composite Moon/Jupiter forms a Yod to his natal Moon and Venus (my favorite pattern lol)
Composite Juno oppose his Chiron, ouch!
Composite ASC/POF and Chiron oppose his Sun/Mercury/Neptune stellium.
Composite Neptune, MC ruler, oppose his Moon. It's sweet, since Neptune in composite 7th house, his feelings are involved too.
Composite Mars right on his Mars, 'the one that got away'.
Composite Pluto/South Node on his natal Jupiter the dispositor of his Sun and his 5th house traditional ruler. The transformation affects him the most.

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posted June 07, 2014 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Sorry, I haven't seen it...interesting and revealing overlays...it's a happy and chatty Moon in the chart ruler's sign and house I mean both signs ruled by Mercury) - mutability and emotional communication must have been an important part for you two, the Moon conjuncts happy Jupiter, DSC ruler. There is a nice Kite, however strange, pointing towards SN conjunct Pluto....how do you interpret this?

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thanks Leeloo, emotional communication must be part of the transformation because very little has been said. With Pluto/SN, since Pluto rules the composite 6th house and SN ruler, Composite Karma in 8th, the Vertex and Juno also are in Scorpio, I think the Kite apex points to a place to fall when the going gets tough. It's in the 5th house so maybe we'll do some creative projects together? Or children? *facepalm*

posted June 07, 2014 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Hey, you did a composite with your Mars persona and his Venus persona or the other way round?

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posted June 07, 2014 01:54 PM            

I love the Vesta Cross and the Moon Cross. The Moon Cross has all three sides of Eros: Cupido, Eros, Amor, who can also be seen as stages.

posted June 07, 2014 02:10 PM            

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I'm still looking for your charts with C.

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Let me make your dream come true

My Venus and his Mars. The Sun is conjunct our natal composite Sun by 3 MINUTES (!). The Ascendant is on my Moon and in the same sign like in the natal composite...Ok, you can be jealous again now

posted June 07, 2014 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Chiron is more like Achille's heel, IMO, a vulnerable spot where one is destined to heal or become a healer, and this happens through some painful lessons/experiences. So Chiron is more like an awakener of a part of us that needs change and evolution. But the ultimate goal is healing and it actually shows where we can heal wounds that have never been healed before (in terms of the overall soul evolution). I often see Chiron as the herald of an awakening.

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It sounds like a divine experience, and soulful . Can I ask more? ^^ Do we have a choice to be or not to be awakened? Does it always work like an unavoidable karmic change?

posted June 07, 2014 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Aw, AW, I can see why you love it. Sun conjunct Moon with Cupid on the midpoint, Venus conjunct Mars tightly and in the 11th house!!! Vesta Cross is all about devotion and loving care again, Moon Cross is very exciting and creative. Juno on MC!! Can anyone hear wedding bells?

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posted June 07, 2014 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[b] Let me make your dream come true

My Venus and his Mars. The Sun is conjunct our natal composite Sun by 3 MINUTES (!). The Ascendant is on my Moon and in the same sign like in the natal composite...Ok, you can be jealous again now

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Why do you always have such beautiful charts?? I'm banging my head against the wall in jealousy!

posted June 07, 2014 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
It sounds like a divine experience, and soulful . Can I ask more? ^^ Do we have a choice to be or not to be awakened? Does it always work like an unavoidable karmic change?

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posted June 07, 2014 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Why do you always have such beautiful charts?? I'm banging my head against the wall in jealousy!

Vesta on Sun the focus of all those patterns, no wonder you can't quit him . The POF near 12th house cusp is the key to your union, ASC/DSC on critical degree seems to mean a completion in this life time. Enjoy the ride!

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Ha Our union, lol. What do you mean by "completion in this life time"?

posted June 07, 2014 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Btw, the Moon is in the 8th here and there we have a Scorpio Moon.

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A dream come true...ain't it Cappy? Cappy and her perfect charts pheww I LOVE Moon opp Neptune and Venus opp Jupiter!

posted June 07, 2014 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

This is what I have been writing to IQ about it, some years ago (he was inspired to look at these charts in relation to Mr SAg and me, and thi was what pinched me into the realization that there is some kind of relation going on there between Moon and Saturn anyway).

Moon and Saturn are an "item" somehow.
They are the frame of our personality, Moon as the most internal, personal, inner planet, closest to earth or as a matter of fact, a PART OF EARTH, and Saturn being the last frontier to the transcendental energies of Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and so on.
Of course they are also "mummy" and "daddy", the mature feminine and the mature masculine principle (in a different way than Sun of course).
They are related to opposite houses, no matter how you count the houses, just like Venus and Mars are.

And also their "mathematic" is similiar.
I read that in the book by Mertz many years ago.
to complete a cycle Saturn needs just the same amount of YEARS, as Moon needs days / nights.
29,458 years vs. 29,458 days/nights.

Tentatively speaking I think that maybe Moon and Saturn, including persona charts and shifted charts might relate to "practical soulmates" (maybe even twinsouls), the manifestation (Saturn) of the soul (Moon) on earth (earth`s perspective).

Not an idealized conceptual view on it, but a very grounded, practical, day-to-day manifestation.

Though it may not be necessarily romantic (as Venus and Mars, or Proserpina and Pluto seem to be).
Interestingly Venus and Mars are the planets, closest to earth, giving it a frame. I donīt think that is a coincidence, and it probably bears meaning on astrological analysis."


At least as an added tool these could be interesting to check.
I guess we need to pay more attention to the Moon-Saturn aspects as well as Saturn in the Draconics (and Moon), as this is a lunar chart. Well, IQ always highlights these Saturn-Moon aspects and Saturn in the Dracos anyway, but said it was due to an "intuition" he had. Maybe that is the explanation?

We tend to look down on "karmic" things, but as long as we are bound to our mortal shell, there will be Karma in our life, and it doesn`t simply highlight the past, but also shows the way into the future, about what "has to be done".

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WOW
My ex draco/nodal moon conjuncts my tropic saturn exact! scorpio 2 degrees.

Further:

This conjunction between nodal moon and tropic saturn between my ex and I links to my husband...

My husband has Karma in scorpio at 0 degrees conjunct Eros in scorpio at 3 degrees which conjuncts my saturn in scorpio at 2 degrees.

posted June 07, 2014 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm not the expert, but I don't think we have a choice about Chiron. But sometimes Chiron can be blocked or delayed, and I guess that too is part of the Chirotic path of awakening for each individual. Sometimes certain persons or transits are not enough (by aspects or other config) for us to awake our Chiron, while others (persons, transits) are. Besides, almost everyone tends to avoid or postpone lessons or evolutionary steps that involve pain and effort, some more than others, until it becomes unavoidable. I suppose a specific configuration between two people ( since we discuss synastry/comps here) makes it unavoidable and final vs. just a tingle/or something coming too soon.

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Thanks Leeloo, I wish you'll write articles or open a blog. Cappy will probably get jealous but I'm your fan too. Can I ask more questions, is that all right? I'll post my Venus and his Mars composite.

posted June 07, 2014 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
A dream come true...ain't it Cappy? Cappy and her perfect charts pheww I LOVE Moon opp Neptune and Venus opp Jupiter!

I'm sorry ladies, I have to prepare for tomorrow although I wish I stayed with you. Kisses!

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Go with our love