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Topic: Persona Charts and Synastry
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 06, 2014 04:55 PM
  
 It;s this one, Cappy, the lunar apogee:
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_lilith_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_fh_extra_e.htm asteroid Lilith is number 1181, appears as Lilit in astro.com. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 04:57 PM
Yep. And I don't see it in your chart. That Moon symbol is Lilith the asteroid. But if it's so significant for you then have fun using it  ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 06, 2014 05:14 PM
No, in my chart, you can see Lilith, the Dark Moon, Lunar apogee, the one I usually use, the one on the drop-down menu. Asteroid Lilit (without an h) is not the one in the drop-down menu in astro.com, you have to choose it in the asteroid list or type the number.IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted July 06, 2014 05:18 PM
Curious what you guys think of this chart.
I am on the inside (natal) compared with a man (who I care a great deal about) NN persona on the outside. His TOB unknown.
Any other thoughts?
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 06, 2014 05:27 PM
The Lilith in the drop-down menu in Additional objects is NOT the asteroid. (the black moon with cross)It is the Mean Black Moon Lilith also called Dark Moon (lunar apogee). here's an explanation: In order to examine how Lilith works in synastry, one has to establish what she is not. To keep things simple, we will look at Mean Black Moon Lilith only. This is the one used on Astro.com in the drop down menu. It has the symbol of a black crescent Moon atop a cross. Like the Moon’s Nodes, there is a True and an Mean Node. The Mean Black Moon Lilith has been in use for much longer than the True, and therefore has more research behind it. It is also the more stable of the two. This is the famous, or the infamous Black Moon Lilith. The other two Liliths are Asteroid Lilith and Dark Moon Lilith (Waldemaths Moon). Much of Lilith’s bad reputation in synastry is actually more to do with these two.
http://lilith.tribe.net/thread/41519f70-e818-41b0-b450-6cb16461a7d3
If you want to find the other "black moons", you use h13, h21, h58. For the asteroid ( a total different matter), the number above. Here's a link on how to find all your Liliths:
http://astrofix.net/2010/07/01/how-to-find-all-four-liliths-in-your-birth-chart/# .U7m9PkDsP1I
Actually, Waldemath's moon is the "real" Dark Moon. Most astrologers call the Lilith in astro drop-down BML - Mean BML, as opposed to True BML (h13, the one you use). I agree it's pretty confusing, and the article on astro.com creates confusion between Dark Moon and Black Moon.
A good explanation here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000025.html
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I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 05:49 PM
Oh...I'm sorry then. I feel stupid now.------------------
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 06, 2014 05:55 PM
It's OK, Cappy, there's nothing to be sorry about, those damn Liliths are pretty confusing, lol actually it was a good opportunity for me to read more about Lilith again, so thanks  I have Moon opp Lilith crossing my MC/IC and Lilith in 1st. ...but you already know that  For me, h13 (True Lilith) is very stranded.
What is the difference for you?
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 06, 2014 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Oh...I'm sorry then. I feel stupid now.
Whaaat!? You? Stupid? hahahahahaha Oh, I seee...you thought you knew everything and I spoiled this boring fantasy for you? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 05:59 PM
I'm just a copycat haha. It started being discussed some time ago and I got the impression it's superior so I stuck with it.
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Whaaat!? You? Stupid? hahahahahaha Oh, I seee...you thought you knew everything and I spoiled this boring fantasy for you?
Yes, my Virgo ASC and Sag Mercury feel humiliated  ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 06, 2014 06:05 PM
I'm taking off to Dreamland, my Queen...wait! you're not our Queen anymore, now that you've freed us from your harem, unwilingly? What a confusion! My life is upside down because of this! How can I call you now?
Anyway...tomorrow I'd love for us to discuss some Davison Personas.
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I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 06:07 PM
Of course I am your Queen, I always will  I'm probably gonna post here something so that you have a wonderful morning  Good night :*------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 06, 2014 06:09 PM
Then...good night, my Queen! IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 06:16 PM
When I think about it, True Lilith seems to make more sense in my chart. It's conjunct IC widely, Union closely and trine Jupiter (IC ruler). My approach to relationships and family is quite Lilithian (if that's even a word). The one you use is a couple of degrees further.------------------
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I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 07:26 PM
You know what I think about karma. But I like you enough to do this for you. Here it is, my and C.'s Karma. And no, YOU stole my angles   And now our intense Priapus!
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Tulipe
Knowflake Posts: 1715
From: France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 09:13 AM
Hi ladies, miss your bantering. Leeloo, your Karma is off the charts!!! And it looks like my 9th harmonic, hehe. Cappybaby lol, I thought you gave up on C. I've a mind to steal him from you  . ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 09:29 AM
I wonder why she focused on Priapus IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 07, 2014 09:35 AM
Tulipe, that's how it is when you lack research material Lee, I posted Priapus because I like the chart I'm about to show you something else. ------------------
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Tulipe
Knowflake Posts: 1715
From: France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 09:38 AM
Cappy, as for your Priapus chart, is condensed chart intense? Or you mean Cupid/Uranus/Juno square Nodal axis ?------------------
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I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 07, 2014 09:46 AM
Come on, can't you see all this Scorpio? You're teasing me, right? ^^Tadam! It's similar to your Karma, don't you think, Lee?
 Oops, some random asteroid got in here.
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Tulipe
Knowflake Posts: 1715
From: France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Come on, can't you see all this Scorpio? You're teasing me, right? ^^Tadam! It's similar to your Karma, don't you think, Lee?
Oops, some random asteroid got in here.
Arg, I was focused on the aspects and didn't see those Scorpio bombs, my bad lol. I like that Yod there, very electrifying hehe, and it's Venus/Saturn, the sophisticated lovers. Can't help but notice random male name asteroids pop up in C. chart, tsk tsk, bad Cappy. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Curious what you guys think of this chart.
I am on the inside (natal) compared with a man (who I care a great deal about) NN persona on the outside. His TOB unknown.
Any other thoughts?
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His NN path seems to influence your 7th a lot. Too bad we don't know his houses to see how you connect to his life path. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Can't help but notice random male name asteroids pop up in C. chart, tsk tsk, bad Cappy.
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I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 07, 2014 10:08 AM
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Can't help but notice random male name asteroids pop up in C. chart, tsk tsk, bad Cappy.
It's Victoria, silly ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Come on, can't you see all this Scorpio? You're teasing me, right? ^^Tadam! It's similar to your Karma, don't you think, Lee?
WOW...an awesome love Boomerang! It's so pretty, I could eat it hehe On the best axis.
You only need to tap into your Lilith side, you won't need anything more
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18203
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]Can't help but notice random male name asteroids pop up in C. chart, tsk tsk, bad Cappy.
It's Victoria, silly [/QUOTE] Yeah, right. Cappy thinks she's the smartest in the world and that she can fool us haha IP: Logged |
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