posted April 07, 2014 09:13 AM            

I suggest comparisons between:

Mutual natal/Venus Persona - for strong love ties between them

Mutual natal/Mars Persona - for how they trigger each other sexually and for sexual compatibility

Mars-Mars Persona for similar sexual styles and compatibility.

and Yin/Yang archetype comparisons:

Girl natal with Boy Moon Persona - to see if she is his "Moon"

Girl Venus Persona with Boy Mars Persona

Girl natal with Boy Venus Persona - to see if she is his "type"

Boy natal with Girl Mars Persona - to see if he is her "type"

and soulmate pairs:

Moon-Moon Persona comparison

Girl Psyche with Boy Eros

Mutual Juno comparison

Mutual natal/Juno to see if they are each other's partner

etc.

... and the games may go on and on

posted April 07, 2014 10:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

BTW a comparision between Moon-P and Saturn-P can sometimes be very revealing, too

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posted April 07, 2014 10:55 AM            

Joanne Woodward Venus Persona/ Paul Newman Mars Persona (they have Venus semisextile Mars DW in synastry, but no major aspects)

Moon trine Moon
Moon conjunct Sun/Venus/Vesta
ASC conjunct Lust/Jupiter
Valentine/Sun on IC
Uranus conjunct Amor/Valentine (love at first sight)
Juno/Alma conjunct Jupiter

Joanne Woodward/Paul Newman Juno comparison

Both have Juno conjunct Alma (the chance to meet your soulmate in this life)

Joanne has Juno conjunct Alma in Capricorn on ASC in the natal.

Paul has Juno conjunct Alma in Capricorn on ASC in the Juno persona chart.

Joanne has Juno conjunct Alma in the 7th house in Juno Persona chart, in Aquarius (Paul's natal sun)

Sun conjunct Jupiter/Venus
Venus/Vesta conjunct Sun/Union
Vertex/Union opposite Moon
MC conjunct IC
NN conjunct Amor

posted April 07, 2014 11:04 AM              

Venus conjunct Venus
Mars conjunct natal Jupiter
NN conjunct NN
Moon conjunct natal Jupiter

posted April 07, 2014 11:05 AM            

Sun conjunct Juno and Lust
Moon/Cupid conjunct IC/Cupid/Eros
IC/Valentine conjunct Sun

Grand Cross Venus/Jupiter, Valentine. Moon/Mars, Mercury/Saturn on Liz' ASC/DSC

Uranus/Union opposite Venus (electric, first-sight attraction, disruptive)
Mars/Jupiter conjunct Lilith

posted April 07, 2014 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Natal/Moon chart

Venus conjunct Venus
Mars conjunct natal Jupiter
NN conjunct NN
Moon conjunct natal Jupiter

Moon/Moon.
Moon conjunct saturn
NN conjunct NN

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posted April 07, 2014 11:11 AM              

SATURN CONJUNCT ASC EXACT IN AQUA 0___0
PLUTO SQUARE ASC....
MERCURY IN ARIES SQUARE MARS IN LEO 2 DEGREES..
this explains everything

Venus in Aries TRINE Mars in Leo
Moon in Libra 8TH HOUSE conjunct Jupiter opposite Venus..

posted April 07, 2014 11:41 AM            

my natal - his Venus persona

My DSC conjunct his Sun exact
My Sun opposite his Venus exact
My Sun opposite his Lilith exact

his natal - my Venus persona
His DSC conjunct my NN 3
His DSC conjunct my Neptune 3
His Moon conjunct my Saturn 2
His Sun/Moon MP conjunct my Venus 1

his natal - my Mars persona
his Moon opposite my Venus exact
his DSC conjunct my Uranus 1
his Moon conjunct my Juno 1

my natal - his Mars persona
my Venus conjunct his Moon 1
my Pluto conjunct his IC 1
my Uranus conjunct his Venus 1
my Neptune conjunct his Jupiter 0
my NN conjunct his Mars exact
my MC conjunct his Chiron exact

my natal - his Moon persona

my Venus conjunct his Juno 1
my DSC conjunct his Venus 2
my Venus opposite his Lilith 0

his natal - my Moon persona
his DSC conjunct my Uranus exact
his DSC conjunct my Lilith exact
his Sun conjunct my Vertex exact
his Venus opposite my Mars exact

my natal - his Juno persona

my Pluto conjunct his Mars exact
my Neptune conjunct his Jupiter exact
my Sun opposite his Moon exact
my MC conjunct his Sun exact
My MC conjunct his NN exact
My ASC conjunct his Karma exact

his natal - my Juno persona

his Sun conjunct my DSC exact LOL
his Mars conjunct my Sun exact
his NN conjunct my Mars 1

my natal - his Vertex persona

my Venus opposite his Vertex 1

his natal - my Vertex persona

his DSC conjunct my Moon exact
his DSC conjunct my Uranus exact
his Moon conjunct my NN 1
his Venus conjunct my Venus 1

my natal - his NN persona

my Pluto conjunct his Mars 1
my IC conjunct his Vertex exact
my Pluto opposite his Mercury exact
my MC conjunct his Venus 2
my MC conjunct his NN exact
My MC conjunct his Sun 2

his natal - my NN persona

his Sun conjunct my DSC exact again LOL
his DSC conjunct my Uranus exact
his DSC conjunct my Mercury 1
his Moon conjunct my NN exact
his Moon conjunct my Saturn exact
his Sun conjunct my Karma exact

posted April 07, 2014 11:49 AM            

his DSC conjunct my Uranus 1
Could it be possible he is not your usual type?

my natal - his Mars persona
my Venus conjunct his Moon 1
my Pluto conjunct his IC 1
my Uranus conjunct his Venus 1
my Neptune conjunct his Jupiter 0
my NN conjunct his Mars exact
my MC conjunct his Chiron exact

posted April 07, 2014 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
My ex-guy friend's moon persona chart was exactly my natal chart, maybe a degree or two *or three offand a different persona moon but still conjunct.

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One of my best friend`s natal is the exact replica of my oldest crush`s SOUTH NODE Persona chart, it is creepy actually. Not sure what to make of this. She has to go through all he has already experienced before?

posted April 07, 2014 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Interesting. What would it stand for, in your opinion, Ceri?

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This is what I have been writing to IQ about it, some years ago (he was inspired to look at these charts in relation to Mr SAg and me, and thi was what pinched me into the realization that there is some kind of relation going on there between Moon and Saturn anyway).

Moon and Saturn are an "item" somehow.
They are the frame of our personality, Moon as the most internal, personal, inner planet, closest to earth or as a matter of fact, a PART OF EARTH, and Saturn being the last frontier to the transcendental energies of Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and so on.
Of course they are also "mummy" and "daddy", the mature feminine and the mature masculine principle (in a different way than Sun of course).
They are related to opposite houses, no matter how you count the houses, just like Venus and Mars are.

And also their "mathematic" is similiar.
I read that in the book by Mertz many years ago.
to complete a cycle Saturn needs just the same amount of YEARS, as Moon needs days / nights.
29,458 years vs. 29,458 days/nights.

Tentatively speaking I think that maybe Moon and Saturn, including persona charts and shifted charts might relate to "practical soulmates" (maybe even twinsouls), the manifestation (Saturn) of the soul (Moon) on earth (earth`s perspective).

Not an idealized conceptual view on it, but a very grounded, practical, day-to-day manifestation.

Though it may not be necessarily romantic (as Venus and Mars, or Proserpina and Pluto seem to be).
Interestingly Venus and Mars are the planets, closest to earth, giving it a frame. I donīt think that is a coincidence, and it probably bears meaning on astrological analysis."


At least as an added tool these could be interesting to check.
I guess we need to pay more attention to the Moon-Saturn aspects as well as Saturn in the Draconics (and Moon), as this is a lunar chart. Well, IQ always highlights these Saturn-Moon aspects and Saturn in the Dracos anyway, but said it was due to an "intuition" he had. Maybe that is the explanation?

We tend to look down on "karmic" things, but as long as we are bound to our mortal shell, there will be Karma in our life, and it doesn`t simply highlight the past, but also shows the way into the future, about what "has to be done".

posted April 07, 2014 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Besides synastry does anyone really identify with their moon persona chart... I think the moon chart gives insight into my emotions and decision making process.

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Funny thing:

my natal
Sun: 25.56 Sag
Moon: 17.06 Aquarius

my Moon Persona:
Sun: 17.06 Aquarius (per definitionem)
Moon: 25.28 Sag

And yes, I DO identify with my Moon Persona chart a lot

ASC on 6 Cancer (with my natal Venus on 6 Cap)

Sun and Mercury in Aquarius in 9th house

Venus in Pisces squaring Neptune, sextile Mars in Cap in 7th, quinkunx Pluto in 5th.

posted April 07, 2014 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Joanne has Juno conjunct Alma in Capricorn on ASC in the natal.

Paul has Juno conjunct Alma in Capricorn on ASC in the Juno persona chart.

Joanne has Juno conjunct Alma in the 7th house in Juno Persona chart, in Aquarius (Paul's natal sun)

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posted April 07, 2014 01:08 PM            

Sun/Venus midpoint conjunct Moon
Sun conjunct Moon
Venus conjunct Moon
Moon square Sun/Venus/Valentine

ASC/DSC conjunct Avx/Vx
Juno/Jupiter conjunct Juno/Jupiter

MC conjunct Sun/Venus/Valentine
Sun conjunct MC

posted April 07, 2014 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

This is what I have been writing to IQ about it, some years ago (he was inspired to look at these charts in relation to Mr SAg and me, and thi was what pinched me into the realization that there is some kind of relation going on there between Moon and Saturn anyway).

Moon and Saturn are an "item" somehow.
They are the frame of our personality, Moon as the most internal, personal, inner planet, closest to earth or as a matter of fact, a PART OF EARTH, and Saturn being the last frontier to the transcendental energies of Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and so on.
Of course they are also "mummy" and "daddy", the mature feminine and the mature masculine principle (in a different way than Sun of course).
They are related to opposite houses, no matter how you count the houses, just like Venus and Mars are.

And also their "mathematic" is similiar.
I read that in the book by Mertz many years ago.
to complete a cycle Saturn needs just the same amount of YEARS, as Moon needs days / nights.
29,458 years vs. 29,458 days/nights.

Tentatively speaking I think that maybe Moon and Saturn, including persona charts and shifted charts might relate to "practical soulmates" (maybe even twinsouls), the manifestation (Saturn) of the soul (Moon) on earth (earth`s perspective).

Not an idealized conceptual view on it, but a very grounded, practical, day-to-day manifestation.

Though it may not be necessarily romantic (as Venus and Mars, or Proserpina and Pluto seem to be).
Interestingly Venus and Mars are the planets, closest to earth, giving it a frame. I donīt think that is a coincidence, and it probably bears meaning on astrological analysis."


At least as an added tool these could be interesting to check.
I guess we need to pay more attention to the Moon-Saturn aspects as well as Saturn in the Draconics (and Moon), as this is a lunar chart. Well, IQ always highlights these Saturn-Moon aspects and Saturn in the Dracos anyway, but said it was due to an "intuition" he had. Maybe that is the explanation?

We tend to look down on "karmic" things, but as long as we are bound to our mortal shell, there will be Karma in our life, and it doesn`t simply highlight the past, but also shows the way into the future, about what "has to be done".

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This is SUPER-INTERESTING
Thanks a lot, Ceri

posted April 07, 2014 01:35 PM            

In the synastry we have his Eros my Psyche in the same sign (17 degrees apart), my Eros quincunx his Pysche. Eros sextile Psyche in Davison.

Me Psyche/Him Eros

Sun conjunct Moon 3
Moon trine Sun 1

Venus/Mercury conjunct Sun/Mercury
Jupiter conjunct Venus/Psyche/IC

Mars conjunct Amor in the same sign (Capricorn), his Mars/Amor conjunct my natal ASC

MC/IC conjunct Avx/Vx with Saturn
Saturn conjunct Saturn
MC conjunct Mars
NN/Neptune/Valentine conjunct NN/Neptune/Valentine

Karma conjunct Karma 1
Eros conjunct Eros 2
Cupid conjunct Cupid 4
Union/Uranus conjunct Union/Uranus
Lust conjunct Lust 4
Vesta conjunct Vesta 7
Lilith conjunct Lilith 2
Psyche conjunct Psyche (8, wide one, but since Eros conjunct Eros...)

Alma conjunct Juno 1
ASC conjunct Alma 3

posted April 07, 2014 01:35 PM            

MC conjunct KARMA/DESTINN
Sun-Mercury conjunct Sun
Moon conjunct IC (4)

Jupiter conjunct EROS
Jupiter opposite Mars/Jupiter/AMOR
Uranus opp. VESTA
Neptune/NN conjunct Mercury

Sun/Moon-mp conjunct Moon exact
Antivertex conjunct Moon exact

KARMA conjunct Vertex
DESTINN opposite Moon

EROS opposite Moon exact
UNION conjunct UNION
PSYCHE conjunct PSYCHE-PALLAS
CERES conjunct EROS
CERES opposite Mars/Jupiter/AMOR
VESTA conjunct Sun
VESTA opposite ALMA

pretty much a repetition of the natal synastry (his Moon is just 2 degrees off his Sun).

Him/Me
Natal/Moon-Persona

ASC conjunct CERES exact
Sun/Moon/MC conjunct Moon
Sun/Moon-mp conjunct Moon

Mercury conjunct Neptune
Venus conjunct VESTA
Venus opposite EROS
Mars/Jupiter/AMOR Opposite Venus/PHOLUS (Mars-Venus-opp is 2 degrees)

Uranus conjunct Vertex
Pluto conjunct APHRODITE
Pluto opposite ALMA-Chiron
NN conjunct IC

EROS conjunct Venus and PHOLUS exact
PSYCHE conjunct PALLAS
VALENTINE conjunct Vertex
VESTA opp. Uranus-ADONIS
JUNO conjunct EROS
JUNO Opposite VESTA
ALMA conjunct ASC

Him/Me
Moon-Moon:

ASC trine ASC close
ASC conjunct UNION
IC conjunct Sun and Mercury

VALENTINE-Uranus conjunct vertex
Mercury conj. Neptune and opp. KARMA

Sun conjunct Moon
Moon opposite EROS
Venus conjunct VESTA exact
Venus opposite EROS
PALLAS-PSYCHE conjnct PALLAS
EROS conjunct Venus and PHOLUS exact
PHOLUS conjunct Jupitera nd Ceres
CERES conjunct JUNO and opp. Pluto
VESTA opp. Uranus and ADONIS
Chiron opposite UNION
Antivertex conjunct VALENTINE Exact
Vertex conjunct KARMA
JUNO conjunct eROS and opposite VESTA
NN conj. IC

posted April 07, 2014 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
My ex-guy friend's moon persona chart was exactly my natal chart, maybe a degree or two *or three offand a different persona moon but still conjunct.

We didn't last though, he decided to join a "frat" and since then has decided to forget all of his old friends smh. Before then though we hung out all the time, he'd even hang with me more than his own guy friends from home then.

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