posted May 20, 2014 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Somebody remind me which Davidson you use.

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posted May 20, 2014 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Very beautifully said, Leeloo. I love your thoughts.

Just realized I've never posted my Davison chart. Compared to the Composite, it's even more karmic.

What I find interesting, apart from two Mystic Rectangle, is all four angle rulers are involved in an exact configuration consisting of semisquare and sesquisquare. Do we have a name for this? I can't remember exactly but isn't it that we have a configuration named 'coffin' that looks similar? I have to look back on that again.

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posted May 20, 2014 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
I consider him a "teacher" soul to me or whatever. Absouletely non-romantic, as he could be my grandpa, but right now he is like some sort of father figure for me. Not exactly a colleague, but something of that kind. A retired colleague.

Conjunctions/oppositions:

Sun opposite Vertex
Moon opposite Mercury,Venus
Venus conjunct Atlantis
Mars opposite Neptune
Jupiter opposite Chiron
Uranus opposite Uranus
Neptune conjunct Mercury,Venus
Pluto conjunct Moon
SN conjunct Sun
Vertex opposite Union
BML opposite Mercury, Venus
Juno conjunct Jupiter
Karma opposite Pluto, Union
Psyche conjunct NN
Destinn conjunct ASC
Atlantis conjunct Saturn
Spirit conjunct Union
Alma opposite Uranus
Angel conjunct Jupiter
Union conjunct Atlantis
Valentine conjunct Valentine, Juno
ASC conjunct Sun
MC conjunct Chiron
IC conjunct Destinn

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posted May 20, 2014 05:45 PM            

LOvely Loo

Thanks for pointing that out,
I havent noticed the second rectangular!
All planets line up.
2 rectangulars, 2 kites, grand trines and a grand cross

posted May 20, 2014 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, no, meissieri, not dreaded with me, it shows sexual fidelity and you two doing constructive things together, especially as rulers of the 7th. Is the square part of a cross or a triangle? or is it isolated? Any aspect between his Mars and your Saturn (the other way around)? Nice angle connections, especially for the mutual MC/IC and the nodes.

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Ohhh that sounds good. Really good! To be fair, I have noticed some of the stuff most Mars sq Saturn interpretations say - at times, I do feel blocked by him. Then I realize it's mostly my insecurity/afraid of getting hurt... that kind of thing. I'm definitely driven to work things out, though. He doesn't really know yet, but I'm doing my best not to fall into old traps and I think just meeting him has given me that chance to finally do things differently with a love interest.
Does that sound like Mars-Saturn to you?

The other way around... my Saturn makes a very loose conjunction to his 7th house Mars (9 degrees). Here Saturn rules my IC and Mars his 11th house.

The square is part of a T-square. My Mars falls right in between an opposition from his Venus to Saturn. Empty leg is his Aquarius/Pisces 10th house (Pisces intercepted), which is the end of my 5th plus 6th house.

posted May 21, 2014 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Oh wow

LOvely Loo thanks!

Thanks for pointing that out,
I havent noticed the second rectangular!
All planets line up.
2 rectangulars, 2 kites, grand trines and a grand cross

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posted May 21, 2014 06:33 AM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:

Oh yes, you're right, that's so many angle conjunctions. I just realized that ruler of the 1st square ruler of the 10th may give it another Mars sq Saturn vibe. What do you think?

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posted May 21, 2014 06:44 AM            

Liz Taylor/Richard Burton

Sun conjunct Moon/Sun opp Moon

His Mars sextile her Venus
Venus opp Mars (by sign, not in aspect)

Elizabeth Browning/Robert Browning

His Sun biquintile her Moon exact

His Mars quintile her Venus exact
Her Mars trine his Venus

Yoko Ono/John Lennon

His Sun sextile her Moon
Her Moon his Sun in the same sign

Joanne Woodward/Paul Newman

Her Sun conjunct his Moon
His Sun her Moon in the same sign

DW Mars semisextile Venus

Princess Lilian/Prince Bertil

His Sun sextile her Moon

His Mars square her Venus
Her Mars quincunx his Venus

Wallis/Edward Windsor

Her Sun trine his Moon

His Mars square her Venus
Her Mars semisextile his Venus

Camilla/Charles Windsor

Her Sun squares his Moon

Her Mars trine his Venus

Josephine/Napoleon

Her Sun quincunx his Moon

Her Mars conjunct his Venus

Lauren Bacall/Humphrey Bogart

His Sun trine her Moon

His Mars quincunx her Venus

Linda/Paul McCartney

Her Sun semisquare his Moon

His Mars square her Venus
Her Mars semisextile his Venus

June Carter/Johnny Cash

His Sun quintile/sextile her Moon (possibly, TOB unknown for June)
Her Sun trine his Moon

Her Mars trine his Venus

Melinda/Bill Gates

Her Sun sequisquare his Moon
His Sun her Moon in the same sign

His Mars square her Venus
Her Mars trine his Venus (loosely, 10 degrees)

Eva/Juan Peron

His Sun sextile her Moon

DW Mars trine Venus

Iman/David Bowie

His Sun square her Moon
Her Sun conjunct his Moon

His Mars opp her Venus
Her Mars trine his Venus
(at least physically, they look like a twinflame couple to me, as if coming from the same planet, whichever that is lol)

Rita Wilson/Tom Hanks

Her Sun square his Moon

His Mars opp her Venus
Her Mars square his Venus

Kyra Sedgwick/Kevin Bacon

His Sun sextile her Moon
Her Sun sesquisquare his Moon

His Mars biquintile her Venus
Her Mars sesquisquare his Venus

Trudie Styler/Sting

His Sun trine her Moon
Her Sun square his Moon

His Mars sesquisquare her Venus

Ali Hewson/Bono

Her Sun quincunx his Moon

posted May 21, 2014 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Can someone explain me the difference between composite and Davidson?

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Some prefer composite, others Davison. You can find description and opinions here:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000768.html

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019076.html

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014166.html

posted May 21, 2014 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thanks! Which one do YOU prefer?

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I like both of them, but I tend to pay a special attention to the composite, it prevails for me, because it is about midpoints between charts and I think midpoints are of crucial importance in astrology, especially when it comes to comparing charts. In synastry too, midpoint configurations are important and often revealing, so paying an extra attention to the comp makes sense.

posted May 21, 2014 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Me and Cusp:
His sun trine my moon
My sun biquintiles his moon

We have venus quincunx mars DW

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posted May 21, 2014 07:49 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I love biquintile between Sun and Moon, tgem, great aspect IMO. That and the septile.

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Yeah, you can really feel it when we're together....on good terms LOL

posted May 21, 2014 08:03 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Yeah, you can really feel it when we're together....on good terms LOL

LeeLoo which do you believe is stronger Amor or Valentine? I've always read Valentine is the strongest love asteroid but you seem to favor Amor a bit?

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I wouldn't say I favor one of them, they're both important. But I think Valentine as a concept is only "favored" in English speaking countries because of Valentine's Day being so popular.
However, Amor in its original sense, the Latin word, which has survived in all Latin languages until today as noun and verb, simply means "love", true, all-encompassing love, specifically "real" one. It precedes Valentine (Saint Valentine) as a concept by many centuries.

There is a Latin saying that says:

Amor omnia vincit
Love conquers all

posted May 21, 2014 08:27 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I wouldn't say I favor one of them, they're both important. But I think Valentine as a concept is only "favored" in English speaking countries because of Valentine's Day being so popular.
However, Amor in its original sense, the Latin word, which was kept in all Latin languages until today as noun and verb, simply means "love", true, all-encompassing love, specifically "real" one. It precedes Valentine (Saint Valentine) as a concept with many centuries.

There is a Latin saying that says:

Amor omnia vincit
Love conquers all

I think, based on my synastry studies and the original meaning of the word, and the Amor myth (the god of love, like a male Venus) that Amor in a chart is one's great love, while Valentine is the actual "state" of being in love, also having a loveydovey nature (in the natal). But they're both very important, as asteroids, in relational studies, IMO.

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posted May 21, 2014 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
If you want to align it with the composite, for a metaphorical comparison, you use corrected, but it's an "artificial" alignment. IMO, it is best to use uncorrected, which shows the actual coordinates in time and space.

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Oh, so I should use the uncorrected chart? I made an uncorrected Davison and the angles take on a few degrees. Now Sun/Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus and ASC do not form a Mystic Rectangle anymore. MC now conjunct North Node (2), Sun/Mercury now in 10th house, Jupiter now joins Moon in 6th. Uranus, Saturn, Karma in 4th. Vertex now in 5th conjunct 5th house cusp (1). The "coffin" and four angle rulers still stand, lol.

posted May 21, 2014 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Aw, Leeloo, Cappy, *group hug*
I missed you guys.

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posted May 21, 2014 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think that 4th rectangle looks quite karmic, Tulipe, with a touch of some unpredictable, inescapable, tense events.

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Tell me, what happen when unstoppable force hits unmovable object, maybe then I'll figure this out lol.

posted May 21, 2014 12:15 PM            

In this Composite, I consider the Sun/Venus mdp which is 28 Cancer to be the apex of the Castle.

Composite

Davison

In the synastry they have:

1)
Sun opp. Moon 1
Sun septile Moon 0

Venus conjunct Mars 0
Venus trine Mars 1

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Neptune conjunct MC 3
Vesta conjunct MC 1

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IC ruler square IC ruler, other IC rulers interaspects

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NN conjunct DSC 1
NN conjunct Saturn 3
SN conjunct Sun 6

5)
the only thing squaring Nodes: mutual Chiron squaring Nodes, 0 and 2

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Vertex conjunct Vertex 5
Vertex conjunct Moon 5
Antivertex conjunct Saturn 2

7)

Sun quincunx Saturn 2
Moon trine Saturn 5
Moon opp. Saturn 8

8)

major overlays are in 1,2,4,5,7,8, with an 8th house emphasis

9) 10) many aspects

11)
some conjunctions

Eros conjunct Psyche 3
Eros quincunx Psyche 2

Cupido conjunct Psyche 1
Jupiter conjunct Alma 3
Venus conjunct Eros 3
NN conjunct Cupido 3

Moon conjunct Valentine 0
Moon quincunx Valentine 0

Alma conjunct Priapus 0
Alma conjunct Venus 2

Sun conjunct Juno 3
Sun conjunct Vesta 3 (Sun on Juno/Vesta mdp)
Juno opp. Juno 5

Lust conjunct Pluto 3
Psyche and Neptune conjunct Vesta 2

12)

Karma conjunct Vertex 0
Sun conjunct Karma 5

13)

Mars on 8th cusp 0
Mercury on 9th cusp 1

Of course, you don't have to have ALL aspects for all 13 points, but a great part.