posted March 25, 2014 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Ceri I can relate so much to what you described there.
Very similar thing happened to me lol.

After Indigo and a few of my good friends urged me to "reveal" myself to him on fb (I put up a profile pic of me then too), I sensed him very strongly for the rest of the week, followed by a a very vivid dream the next night.
If I remember correctly I think it may have been the night of Valentines day.

I remember I was "floating/hovering" just a bit above him.
He was in the studio, in a recorning booth it looked like and he was writing something on a piece of paper.
Then he folded the paper and placed it on a table and went over to his mic.
He looked like he was trying hard to think about something, with his eyes closed.
Then he opened his eyes and said, "I FEEL her..."
And he looked up at me with a painful expression of longing and tears in his eyes.
THAT right there sent a jolt of powerful energy rushing up my spine and through my heart. I remember gasping in my dream even lol. It shook up me so much that it made me wake up.
When I went back to sleep I saw the same studio again, same place, but this time he wasn't there.
The studio was empty.
But I saw the paper he placed on the table before, and it had unfolded, revealing what he had written on it.
It said very clearly, "I feel her"...

I wonder if I may have seen a verse or title from one of his future songs lol.

It was so random.
But it gave me an odd sense of bliss, peace and serenity.

I sensed him like crazy the whole week after.
Followed by even crazier synchronicities...

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posted March 25, 2014 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Wowzer!

DiCaprio's got ISIS conjunct OSIRIS in Helio! Wide, at 3º, but it's there. CAP.

No such luck with Winslet, but interestingly enough, her OSIRIS parallels his ISIS. (0º40).''

What I noticed right off was her PSYCHE conjunct his EROS - 2º.

His SATURN is smack on her ALMA, though; 1º. That feels both binding, troublesome, and significant.

This is beautiful.

Her VENUS opposes his MARS - 2º
His VENUS opposes her MARS - 5º

On the TAU / SCO axis.

JUNO trine JUNO - 1º

Her URANUS conjoins his MARS, 1º, throwing that into the mix. Hm. I'll have to check the tropical houses for insight into that.

Wow!

VALENTINE conjunct NEPTUNE in Helio, 1º. Sextile VENUS, sextile PLUTO, trine PSYCHE, trine DESTINN. Beautiful.

AMOR-ANGEL - 1º, on GC; LUST is 2º away, closer to the VALENTINE-NEPTUNE.

Hah!

ALMA-JUNO. 1º.

VENUS-OSIRIS-VESTA - 1º.

URANUS exactly opposite the EARTH-MOON. Ahhh. That may be the issue. It's conjunct UNION 1º.

Now, their tropical synastry I've saved until now, because it'll make your .

Her SUN conjunct his MOON - 4º
Her MOON conjunct his MOON - 2º

Her MOON conjunct his ASC - 9º
His MOON conjunct her ASC - 3º

Her SUN conjunct his ASC - 7º

Her PLUTO conjunct his MOON - 5º
His PLUTO conjunct her SUN - 3º

His PLUTO conjunct her ASC - 2º
Her PLUTO conjunct his ASC - 5º

Her NNODE conjunct his VENUS - 2º

His VERTEX exactly conjunct her DSC - 0º10.
Her VERTEX in his 7H.

His AMOR in the sign of her SUN, MOON, and ASC (LIBRA).

Her AMOR conjunct his JUNO - 3º

Her VALENTINE conjunct his OSIRIS - 1º

The number 11 also appears as the degree in 6 of their placements: PSYCHE, VERTEX, NNODE, VESTA, MOON, and ASC.

And, the tropical composite is exactly as expected. Packed 1H.

However, interestingly enough, not as many conjunctions. SUN is 0º SCO, while MOON is 14º LIB.

SUN conjunct MERCURY - 5º
MOON conjunct VENUS - 4º
PLUTO conjunct VENUS - 2º
PLUTO conjunct MOON - 5º
PLUTO conjunct ASC - 1º

and

SUN conjunct URANUS - 0º20.

NNODE conjunct VALENTINE - 2º

Interestingly, ALMA and JUNO are too far for a conjunction here: 5º. Instead, ALMA is nearly conjunct the SNODE.

5H ISIS conjunct BML - 1º

4H OSIRIS conjunct VESTA - 1º

So on the one hand, it may be a 'journey of convergence' still. That's a LOT of PLUTO, I'll say.

It's become pretty accepted fact that upon meeting on the Titanic project, they've never lost touch. Through upheavals, good fortune, marriages, kids, other projects, and miles of distance, they've kept a pretty constant line to each other.

More than a few crew and fellow cast said that 'Revolutionary Road' was a potent reunion of sorts, but that its stars were older and wiser. Everyone couldn't help but get the sense they were holding back - to such a degree, their performances lacked the initial fire they brought forth in their debut roles.

I've not seen the film and can't comment, but the stills do seem to betray to me the crossroads they were at during that time.

Needless to say, there's some strong stuff there.

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posted March 25, 2014 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am not weeping for the souls for they are infinite.
But I DO feel for the human part of them.

And actually i mostly feel for the ones who were left behind and grieve.

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Well, I certainly do. But I was also floored by the intensity of anger today.

My costar rather off-the-cuff, in military-strategy 'LT' mode, commented that, yeah, it was just as he'd feared. Something knocked out the transponder, down it went, and no one knew. 'So very sad.'

While he's genuine in his sadness, despite the 'tactical distance' (which I know well), something welled up in me. Something like fury. I could feel my inner voice shouting, 'YOU KNOW NOTHING!' and wanting to shout at him directly, 'YOU should know better! WHY have you lost yourself to these limitations? WHY have you forgotten your infinity? Don't you KNOW the late-hour? WHY ARE YOU WASTING TIME?'

Instead, it's as if I 'compromised' by allowing the momentary rant here.

posted March 25, 2014 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Those aspects are absolutely increible!!! I never knew they had soulmate aspects.

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Aren't they? I started researching a few select couples or 'couples' which struck me. I was really amazed with what I found.

posted March 25, 2014 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Dear God!

I just wanted to check a synastric aspect between Jolie and Pitt, but forgot to switch out of composite.

ALMA-JUNO - 0º80.

Wow. And ALMA-JUNO in Helio, but 3º.

So, it's much closer in the Tropical. That seems meaningful.

Oh, wow.

OUR ALMA-JUNO is 3º in Helio, too - and, obviously - 0º01 in Tropical.

Yeah. There is something to that.

We also have a near-conjunction of ISIS and OSIRIS (6º) which becomes 1º in Tropical.

I think when an aspect becomes nearing exact in Tropical that's otherwise wide or too wide in Helio - that's very significant in some way.

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posted March 25, 2014 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I love them! I'm pretty convinced they are TF's - been studying their charts for a while now. My natal closely aspects Angelina Jolie's and I've suspected we are soulmates/ past life in some way.. Ceri you should check out our similarities

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posted March 25, 2014 06:16 PM            

Has anyone looked to see if there are examples of parallels would count for the manifestation? Not just conjunctions..

posted March 25, 2014 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
It's funny you say that! So does mine. Certain aspects, but in a different sign. The fact she, too, is a 12H-VENUS-ASC gave me hope. 😉

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posted March 25, 2014 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by superman13:
[b] Although, the longing for her isn't painful if that makes sense. I just miss her immensely its so deep its annoying but frustrating but wonderful? Make sense? Lol

I think I already merged with her spiritual thats why it isn't so painful after that spiritual orgasm thing I had twice which surpassed any orgasm physical of course. Arghh I dont know how to explain it arghhh!!!

Help LOL!

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Well that's the thing I wasn't being melo dramatic about the quote of me saying that I have been through hell. I have had some many near death experiences, close calls that I discovered my Soul my Spirit whatever you want to call it. Let alone discovery of True Love that does not whether or fade was the next step of course being always chasing after "the One" that came naturally from within all throughout my child hood.

My dad is a Leo so being heart dominate came natural to me a young boy. There is a lot of mix here. I really haven't told iQ everything about my health. I gave him a list of my Kundalini Top Remedies list that gave him a response saying it was unique lol

I believe not only Spiritual Wickedness but with the Physical Vessel the Human Body that it is experiencing Warfare day in day out, True Evil exist.

So evil and love come together for me.

posted March 25, 2014 06:28 PM            

Geo-Tropical:

Draconic:

That's kinda weird, no?

While it's a very wide conjunction, (and were it not the luminaries in comparison to no aspect, I wouldn't be paying it any heed) it's still there. And only in the Draco.

I dunno what ALICE and MADHATTER do. Heh. I'll have to add them in. I tried to stay more general here for research / comparative purposes.

CORRECTION! I see my error.

Thank God for the lists.

It's NOT conjunct. It's 02° GEMINI and 12° TAURUS.

Still. It's not mimicking the Tropical.

But THIS actually IS amusing (as I checked now).

04° TAU 43' | MADHATTER
16° SCO 48' | ALICE

Which, incidentally, is a wide quindecile (3°). And that's not even the weirdness.

Tropical:

13° AQU 15' | ALICE
01° LEO 10' | MADHATTER

(Yes, they were already quindecile. In fact, it's 1° closer. Curious.)

It's what the SUN, MOON, EROS, and PSYCHE are doing.

MADHATTER conjunct PSYCHE (0°20) on MC (3°) exactly parallel in LEO (SUN is 28° LEO).

ALICE (13°) MOON (08°) EROS (05°) IC (04°) in AQU, and parallel.

Then we go to Draco:

MOON (12°) EROS (08°) MADHATTER (04°) MC (07°) in TAU, all nearly exactly parallel. (14°N).

ALICE (16°) PSYCHE (05°), IC (07°) in SCO, nearly all parallel; PSYCHE-IC, but ALICE is too wide.

... Weird.

For whatever reason, ALICE and MADHATTER 'traded places' between the Tropical and Draco.

In Tropical, the 'thematic' configuration is:

ALICE-EROS-MOON-IC /
MADHATTER-PSYCHE-SUN-MC.

In Draco:
ALICE-PSYCHE-IC /
MADHATTER-EROS-MOON-MC.

What the devil?

posted March 25, 2014 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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And Alma-Juno again. lol

I think if an aspect is transdimensional it is VERY significant. Almost like it MUST materialize, but also has the spiritual background.

It could be that with the tropical being the closer conjunction that the need for physical materialization is even greater, while with the helio being closer to exactness, it is a definite marker of their spiritual connection, but might not be as insistent in physical manifestation (esp. if the aspect is very wide - over 3 degrees).

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We have his Alma square my Juno in synastry exact (Cap 21.15 and Lib 21.40).

In tropical Composite it is only very widely conjunct at 5 degrees, but in helio Composite it is conjunct by 0.59 degrees.

I think I may like how Alma behaves in our synastry; in addition to the Alma-Juno square, his Alma makes a Grand Trine with my Venus (1) and Vesta (0).

My Alma biquintiles his Sun (0), sextiles his Pluto (0), and opposes his Ceres (0).

Or did I tell you that before?

posted March 25, 2014 08:05 PM            

There is something up here, so, I'm gonna give it to you straight. Old school. Charts and degrees.

TROPICAL COMPOSITE:

01° LEO 10' | MADHATTER (19°54N)
01° LEO 34' | PSYCHE (19°48N)
04° LEO 00' | MC (19°15N)
28° LEO 52' | SUN

04° AQU 00' | IC (19°15S)
05° AQU 22' | EROS (18°55S)
08° AQU 44' | MOON (18°04S)
13° AQU 15' | ALICE (17°00S)

DRACONIC COMPOSITE:

04° TAU 43' | MADHATTER (13°05N)
07° TAU 33' | MC (14°02N)
08° TAU 55' | EROS (14°28N)
12° TAU 17' | MOON (15°31N)

05° SCO 07' | PSYCHE (13°15N)
07° SCO 33' | IC (14°02S)
16° SCO 48' | ALICE (16°51S)

The Helio shows some intriguing resonance, too.

HELIO COMPOSITE:

H-C-AMOR (23°) is about 8°-10° away from ALICE (15°) like the Draco, and in the same sign as EARTH-MOON.

H-C-ALICE is also very close in degree (15° AQU) to TR-C-ALICE.

MADHATTER (18°) and PSYCHE (29°) are in the same sign, with PSYCHE 1° off of TR-C-MADHATTER.

posted March 25, 2014 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
"I think when an aspect becomes nearing exact in Tropical that's otherwise wide or too wide in Helio - that's very significant in some way."

Yes, the question is "how" though...is that the ticket proving a reunion in this lifetime?

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posted March 25, 2014 08:10 PM            

Seems all of my significant soul-connexions have VERTEX-CHIRON-DSC / 7H.

posted March 26, 2014 01:02 AM            

A Geo-Tropical composite I have with someone:

posted March 26, 2014 03:48 AM              

Ace of Wands - Sun - Knight of Pentacles.

posted March 26, 2014 05:25 AM            

I feel I'm teetering on the edge. The only logical action is to just relinquish everything. Stop hiding, and tell him the truth. Say that I can't take it, I can't take what we've been, and the pale version of what we are now. I know it's my fault that I've pulled away like this, but after his outright panicking and cruelly denying anything we had beyond it, I had no choice BUT to run - and I did. Faster and further than I realised.

It makes more sense that I let it all go. He can find someone, even if it's not this woman (and probably won't be, even if it seems that way now; certain actions contradict). That makes sense. He's there, and I'm here. That's the reality.

I thought I could do this; keep contact. I had no idea he still expected us to have such emotional intimacy. That he wanted us to be in such constant contact. Time (the past year) has proven, I can't do that.

And I can't keep hanging on, either. As much as I also don't want us to be 'tragically disappointed', this is too much, and too strong, and totally impossible.

I have to heal, and find a real way to move on this time. Completely. Or I fear that I'll just be periodically breaking my own heart, over, and over and over, believing in something whose time is gone. I have to learn to accept that some things just can't be retrieved, and it doesn't matter how they were wrecked, or whose fault it was.

I have got to learn to be happy - truly happy - and fulfilled without him. I was before him - I've GOT to be able to again.

I've GOT to.

I can't keep running and avoiding. It's not fair to him. Or to me. God only knows WHY he's still trying to stay in contact after EVERYTHING that's happened - especially how it's turned out. After things HE said and did.

He panicked at the last minute when he realised we couldn't just have a casual relationship, and reacted by saying the worst things to me. I told him THEN I couldn't take it. He said we'd both be tragically disappointed if that was the case.

So, I tried. I gave myself time, I thought I'd healed. I figured I could do this.

I can't. I'm going to have to tell him.

It looks like the thing I forgot to do in 2012 was end it. Completely. I'm just afraid to do that, too. I'm afraid to move in EITHER direction: both keeping a line open, and cutting the ties completely.

I'm starting to feel it's my only option.

And I feel ... like nothing's right. Like it's all suddenly wrong. Like, if this were the entire purpose of everything, and I just wasn't strong enough to stay friends, I can only beg of myself, and the universe, WHY, I would do this - to myself, to him, to both of us.

But I also feel like I've successfully moved away, slowly, but steadily, for a year now. And yet, I know, if we spoke again, it would ALL flood back, and that sense of disconnexion would be gone.

Except it serves no purpose. It's not building upon anything. I won't let him go out of some weird fear like my world will shatter around me - and I have no idea why he hasn't simply faded out of my life when I unconsciously worked to phase him out.

Is inaction really an option anymore? Why does it feel like it isn't? My only option, the only one that makes sense, is to start being rational again, and consciously end it.

posted March 26, 2014 07:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I was pulling three tarot cards as to into what direction this connection (in the physical) will develop.

Ace of Wands - Sun - Knight of Pentacles.

I kinda like that. Especially the Sun. Feeling good is really all I want at the given timeframe.

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posted March 26, 2014 08:43 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
You can see what I mean regarding the stark differences from Tropical to Draco composite via the ones with my costar.

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no, not really a difference.

The Draconic are calculated by relating your natal placements to the natal North Node, hence the distance between your North Node and 00 Aries, is the same as the distance between your Draconic (or nodal) placements and your natal placements.

The aspect-gestalt stays the same of course, as every planets is shifted the same distance.

That is for the natal-Draconic. Okay.

In SYNASTRY new aspects can form, because each person usually has a different North Node.

In COMPOSITE however the North Node is, well, the composite North Node, every planet is shifted this distance, hence the aspect gestalt stays the same as well.

HOWEVER, there is one speciality with composites, as we are dealing with midpoints, which are always an axis, 180° of each other.

That can result in a tropical composite aspect apepar as EITHER the same in Draco composipte, OR 180° minus the aspect.

Hence a conjunction can become an opposition, a trine a sextile and so on (only squares stay the same).

In your case.

Tropical composite has Sun on 28 Leo and Moon on 8 Aquarius

Draco composite has Sun on 2 Gemini and Moon on 12 Taurus

posted March 26, 2014 08:51 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Ceri? ... I'm baffled.

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Your composite North node is 26 Gemini, right?

That is a square to 00 Aries (well 4 degrees off a square).

Every Draconic placement will reflect that angular distance inc omparision to the same object in tropical.

It also means that squares in your tropical composite with an orb of about 4 degrees will end up as a conjunction from Draconic composite to tropical composite (including the same planets of course).

posted March 26, 2014 08:58 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
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Sigh. I need guidance. I'll seek guidance tonight. I feel so lost. So, so very lost.

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Hang in there. This IS part of your path.
Hey, who said it would be easy?
But at least it`s not boring!

I get you, I get this way, too, but I somehow, feel this is not over yet, something is yet unfinished, unspoken and yes, unbroken.

But at the same time it is important to not forget to live.

I imagine it always like this:

Let`s say we agreed (in between lives) to meet at a certain point of our respective evolution, and now that I am walking that path, well, how could I make it event o the meeting point, if I stay still in time and do not walk on and hence never even reach the meeting point?

This here, this time frame, might be an important step on the way, but it is not the final one, and we have to take what we learn, apply it to our lives and move on, not forced, but naturally, that is the only way we can reach our destination. Well the path is destiny itself, we know that.

posted March 26, 2014 09:26 AM            

Find out from your natal chart when they were born.

Which means your 11th ruler in transit (at the the time of potential twin soul birth) must be conjunct your natal 7th ruler. With your 7th ruler in transit (at the time of your potential twin soul birth) conjunct to your 11th ruler.

Why this way?

From your natal and transits for when your potential partner is born, you can check to see in your chart WHEN your partner is born.

I am Aqua rising. Jupiter rules my 11th. Sun rules my 7th.
My 11th is partners 5th. My 7th is partners 1st.
To find a birth of any kind, you look to 5th ruler in aspect to 1st ruler an also 1st in aspect to 5th ruler.
Good aspects are fine, but the conjunction is better. Best one!

If you want to test this idea out, look at when a person important to you was born and it should show up.

You will come up with a few options for that. Or at least you should.

Then.....I do a little more. Even though the above should be enough.

Once I have a few charts that satisfy the above conditions, I look at my 1st and 7th rulers in aspect to her 1st and 7th rulers.
The best will be my 1st conjunct her 7th. Other way round too. My 7th conjunct her 1st too, and other way round.

For a bit extra, check the rest of the houses to see if it matches the house ruler for the other person.

Lots of well aspected options to choose from using the above method, but I go one step too far and look for an actual date. Not a few. It would be nice to try this way, if only for an experiment."

....copied this post from the other TF thread. This is an interesting concept and I recommend experimenting with it to see if it holds true. Shockingly, when I typed in the transits that were occurring on the Cusp's birthday and applied them to my natal chart, it FITS! And the same applies to him! Now, I totally see why we have the Mars/Saturn Connection!!!!