posted March 27, 2014 02:51 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hang on.

Why is Coffee assuming everyone has a Twin Flame? That isn't correct. The very premise is false. What is he basing this off of? Is it coincidental or valid?

This is very perplexing. NOT coming at a good time, either for me.

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posted March 27, 2014 03:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
No his 7th house ruler isnt conjunct my 11th house ruler.

It was HIS Tr. 11th house ruler (Tr. Moon) on my birthday (which would be natal Moon) that was conjunct his natal 7th house co-ruler (Jupiter).

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So, he has a natal MOON-JUPITER conjunction?

When you ran it using the day your 7R is in the degree of your 11R, what date did you get?

For me, it's NEPTUNE (7R) in 24° SCO with MOON (1-R) in 20° SAG.

When that happened, it was apparently 2 December 1967.

In theory, when you run that data, you get a DW of 11R and 7R in both.

For mine, it would be their NEP on my MOON at 24° with their MOON at 20° on my NEP.

I DO think there's a good explanation as to why I've been drawn to and had so many relationships with Lunar Sag men; but it's not limited to conjunctions to my NEP. It runs the gamut.

I've only had one relationship with his NEP (my 7R) on my MOON (11R). I consider him a very prevalent Guardian Soulmate.

posted March 27, 2014 03:53 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay. So, help me out here, as it seems to be working for you guys, oddly enough. I'm just not following.

My 5R is SATURN. (02° LIB). My 11R is MOON. (24° SCO). What do I do with this? His is JUPITER (18° CAP) and MERCURY (15° SAG), respectively, BTW.

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Your Saturn would have had to be conjunct his Mercury, and your Moon to his Jupiter.

And no in the majority of cases it does not add up.

posted March 27, 2014 03:56 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hang on.

Why is Coffee assuming everyone has a Twin Flame? That isn't correct. The very premise is false. What is he basing this off of? Is it coincidental or valid?

This is very perplexing. NOT coming at a good time, either for me.

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Oh I am in total agreement with Coffee there. Everyone HAS a twinflame (if twinflames exist at all). Not every pair of twinflames is supposed to reunite though in this incarnation.

posted March 27, 2014 05:02 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hang on.

Why is Coffee assuming everyone has a Twin Flame? That isn't correct. The very premise is false. What is he basing this off of? Is it coincidental or valid?

This is very perplexing. NOT coming at a good time, either for me.

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Oh, for Pete's sake, Coffee was a troll who had a lot of problems.
You are all such nice people, but you get so enthralled with details sometimes that you fail to see the big picture.

posted March 27, 2014 05:22 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
So, he has a natal MOON-JUPITER conjunction?

When you ran it using the day your 7R is in the degree of your 11R, what date did you get?

For me, it's NEPTUNE (7R) in 24° SCO with MOON (1-R) in 20° SAG.

When that happened, it was apparently 2 December 1967.

In theory, when you run that data, you get a DW of 11R and 7R in both.

For mine, it would be their NEP on my MOON at 24° with their MOON at 20° on my NEP.

I DO think there's a good explanation as to why I've been drawn to and had so many relationships with Lunar Sag men; but it's not limited to conjunctions to my NEP. It runs the gamut.

I've only had one relationship with his NEP (my 7R) on my MOON (11R). I consider him a very prevalent Guardian Soulmate.

So if I'm doing this correctly, you'd expect to see DW conjunctions between your 11R to his 7R, and vice versa.

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No lol, synastry-wise we have my Moon conjunct his Jupiter.
Neither of us have that aspect natally.

I checked the transits of our birthdates (which are our natal charts obviously lol) to see if each other's 7th/11th house rulers were transiting our own natal 7th and 11th house rulers on those days.

Like this:

his natal 11th house: Cancer
his natal 11th house ruler: Moon

his natal 7th house: Pisces
his natal 7th house ruler: Neptune/Jupiter

So on my birthday, I checked for Tr. Moon (because its his 11th house ruler) to be in aspect to his natal Neptune/Jupiter (his 7th house rulers), which it was.

And vice versa for me.
On his birthday I checked my Tr. 11th/7th house rulers to be in aspect to my natal 11th/7th house rulers, but I didn't find anything.

It was only on the day of my birth, that his Tr. 11th house ruler (my Moon) was in conjunction/opposition with his natal 7th house rulers (Jupiter/Neptune).

That's what I meant.

posted March 27, 2014 05:37 AM              

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Originally posted by maira:

You are all such nice people, but you get so enthralled with details sometimes that you fail to see the big picture.

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posted March 27, 2014 05:38 AM              

Using equal rulers, as he did, it would be Mercury and Venus. since they are so quickly moving, I would have many chances to meet my twinflame.

posted March 27, 2014 05:46 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
well, I would have it easiest.

Using equal rulers, as he did, it would be Mercury and Venus. since they are so quickly moving, I would have many chances to meet my twinflame.

Poor people whose houses are ruled by neptune or Pluto though.

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posted March 27, 2014 06:46 AM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Lol but in a way it does make sense; you do get more opportunities to see him more often than any of us, I think

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Yes, it puzzles me a little, how he seems to have started to be just anywhere all the time near me. It wasn`t like that some years ago, I think.
It started after our first meeting and REALLY became insane since 2 years or so.

I mean as it is this year it seems I am going to see him every 3 or 4 weeks over summer. LOL

Crazy.

of course I pretty much just see him while he is on stage, except for the almost crossing paths that seemed to have happened almost regularly last year.

posted March 27, 2014 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
So, the date I got was 2 December 1967.

Interestingly, it's double Sag.

My costar is '67 born, but June. And, as we know, Fate's double Sag.

I guess this is the method which 'works', since it's jiving for you guys? It isn't for me.

Does this mean iQ was mistaken? I'd hate to question his expertise. I'm just doing so as it keeps checking out for you guys. Which surprises me. A lot.

If THAT's the case, and I don't even know my Twin Flame, I also REALLY don't know what I'm doing here. Anywhere. Anymore.

It's been a very aimless, aggravating, confusing past few days. Arguably longer.

Strange. Such a simple method. Does this make Fate a precursor? Something that indicates what I SHOULD expect to see?

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NO KIDDING!!! I don't know what I'm doing anymore either!!! I'm so aggravated, I'm on the verge of tears. WTH am I doing??!! Why is it the astrology points to one thing, but reality is another??!! My tarot reading was clarified...no physical relationship (according to the cards) and I'm supposed to look for someone else more fulfilling ??!! WTH??!! I'm so confused my mind and soul doesn't even know how to heal anymore..do I get over him (can I even get over him ) do I not??!! Do I look for someone else??!! I don't want anyone else!!

Maybe he isn't my TF after all, yet the chart is so strong..and I'm sorry but I have a really hard time accepting his feelings for me are gone..I really do.

posted March 27, 2014 07:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Yup.
In Vedic astrology its also the house of wishes/wish fullfillment and gains.
So perhaps in synastry it can show how one is the answer to your inner wishes, and how they fulfill them?

Kind of reminds me of the Vertex in a way...
Vertex also has a Uranian/electric/unusual type of feel

But I do have to say I wasn't wishing for anything romantic/soulmatey prior to coming across him.
He just sort of happened to "pop into" my life randomly, out of nowhere and then began the journey of transformation and revelation after revelation...

Yet now it does feel like HE is the answer... If that makes sense.

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posted March 27, 2014 07:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Oh I am in total agreement with Coffee there. Everyone HAS a twinflame (if twinflames exist at all). Not every pair of twinflames is supposed to reunite though in this incarnation.

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posted March 27, 2014 08:08 AM              

*hugs*
I know how you feel

But you must trust and have faith.
It wouldn't make you love for him any less if the cards proved otherwise right?

Astrology, tarot, numerology etc cannot draw any conclusions on weather or not someone is your TwinFlame, though they certainly are useful secondary tools to help guide you.
But they alone aren't THE answer.

Only you hold the answer within you.
Your soul knows, you can't deny that inner knowing/recognition.

So trust that.

Also,

posted March 27, 2014 08:09 AM            

@Indigo- this was not the case for me either. Our rulers were not DW conjunct. In my case , like Lavender's, on his birthday, my mars (11R) was transiting my 7th. Transit Mars was not conjunct Saturn (7R) though.

However transit Saturn (7R) was conjunct mars (11R.)

Now in his chart, if you plug in the transits on my birthday, his venus (11R) was transiting his 7th but not conjunct his natal venus (7R.).

posted March 27, 2014 08:21 AM              

I have a different perception. And might be in disagreement with some people. Others will agree with me.

Personally I donīt see the sense in some having a twinflame, others not.

But then again people are not even in agreement what a twinflame really IS. *shrugs* That is why I am staying away from using that term most of the time.

I think I am more in agreement with Newton here and the primary soulmate-thing. But that is just my side of things. Indigo and lavender apparently are on the other side of the fence (or garden).

As for the tarot cards, as much as I like them, please do not forget that oftentimes tarot cards reflect the readerīs thoughts and feelings as well. There is no objectivity in this dimension.
Plus tarot cards only give clues to a certain timeframe (a few months to a year usually,d epending on how the question was asked).

AND they are always answering from the point you are now at. If things continue the way they are NOW, this is what will most probably happen.

however if you change your attitude or way of itneraction, the results in tarot might be different as well.

It does not mean that you will have a physical relationship with him of course, but the possibility is always there. It depends on the choices you both make along the way.

It is walking a fine line between commitment and loyalty and patience, and chasing a futile dream. At the current timeframe I suppose noone can really say what it is.

For me the only solution consists in following my path,w hereever it may lead, and listen to how it feels inside. As long as it feels freely flowing, I am still on the right path.

The breakdown I was having earlier this week was against the natural flow, but stemming from a state of my human insecurities and doubts.

I really feel that quote his ex-girlfriend typed that day, was important for me, or is important to remember:

"if you go with fear you will fail. If you go with faith, you`ll be fine. You are capable of so much."

The important thing is - I think- to include this in life, not treat it as a block out of your other life. It is part of your life at this moment. And there is no sense in sitting around and waiting for him to knock at your door and doing nothing in the meantime.

Just keep on living, having fun, exploring, discovering, learning, growing, developing, just while you stay in tune with him and your love for him. let it be the fuel of your life, and if it is meant to be, you will meet again. If not, you will meet someone else.

But I think it can`t be forced. I tried to force myself away from Mr Sag, and it was against the natural flow. He is part of my life int he current timeframe. Will he be 10 years down the road?
I donīt know.
Maybe.
I never expected him to become so entwined in my life anyway, but now that he is, i embrace it.

posted March 27, 2014 08:30 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

As for the tarot cards, as much as I like them, please do not forget that oftentimes tarot cards reflect the readerīs thoughts and feelings as well. There is no objectivity in this dimension.
Plus tarot cards only give clues to a certain timeframe (a few months to a year usually,d epending on how the question was asked).

AND they are always answering from the point you are now at. If things continue the way they are NOW, this is what will most probably happen.

however if you change your attitude or way of itneraction, the results in tarot might be different as well.

It does not mean that you will have a physical relationship with him of course, but the possibility is always there. It depends on the choices you both make along the way.

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YES!

I just wanted to emphasize that point.

posted March 27, 2014 08:38 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

"if you go with fear you will fail. If you go with faith, you`ll be fine. You are capable of so much."

The important thing is - I think- to include this in life, not treat it as a block out of your other life. It is part of your life at this moment. And there is no sense in sitting around and waiting for him to knock at your door and doing nothing in the meantime.

Just keep on living, having fun, exploring, discovering, learning, growing, developing, just while you stay in tune with him and your love for him. let it be the fuel of your life, and if it is meant to be, you will meet again. If not, you will meet someone else.

But I think it can`t be forced. I tried to force myself away from Mr Sag, and it was against the natural flow. He is part of my life int he current timeframe. Will he be 10 years down the road?
I donīt know.
Maybe.
I never expected him to become so entwined in my life anyway, but now that he is, i embrace it.

Enough of the babbling for now. lol

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This!
I love what you wrote there

posted March 27, 2014 08:44 AM            

..right now some one is dying.

Although, I don't really know how my TF feels about me, I doubt sometimes as well. I know that for you girls to be chasing after your True Other Half gives me some relief but to know that there is girls out there looking for something like this is to me extremely Endearing in fact really Beautiful. So I would never lose Hope.

posted March 27, 2014 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Oh, for Pete's sake, Coffee was a troll who had a lot of problems.
You are all such nice people, but you get so enthralled with details sometimes that you fail to see the big picture.

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posted March 27, 2014 09:25 AM            

Today, I completed writing Lesson 12 of my course, and I was explaining the importance of Aphrodite and JUNO. I wrote that their conjunction is very beneficial in Synastry/Composite.

I had not checked them in your composite with Fate, so after I completed writing I just checked. And Voila!
JUNO conjunct APHRODITE exact in 6 Libra....

There is no escaping the fact that you and Fate are Twin Flames, but if he wants to run, it is Free Will. You just have to explain everything to him and let him go on his "vacation" for a few more years. His Aquarius Rising Ego may always be a hindrance, a block from finding his own happiness and accepting/acknowledging his Twin Flame just so that he can chase his mirage of perfect freedom.

Also, some Aquarius Rising men find it very difficult to accept the intellectual superiority of women compared to themselves. They can accept artistic superiority or financial superiority or leadership but not intellectual superiority. I might be wrong but this might be another block created by him to run.

As per the Law of Attraction, the more you love yourself and love those who emotionally respond to you positively, the more the tug on your Twin Flame to come to you.

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