posted March 29, 2014 11:48 AM            

I posted about this in my own thread (http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/226183.html) regarding this composite chart/synastry I have with someone. His venus conjuncts my venus and his mars conjuncts my mars, which was what I was asking about.

I was more interested in our interesting composite chart, because it seems to have a lot of different "odd" things all in one.

Someone posting on my thread suggested I post the chart here for you saying it has a lot of markers you have been looking at. If you had any notes, I'd love to hear (if not it's okay too, I don't wanna seem like I'm demanding, hahaha).

posted March 29, 2014 12:17 PM            

Ok yes, I do see some significant aspects here that have been talked about in this thread:
First thing I saw was the 5 planet stellium in the composite 1st...this is big (can be an indicator of a TF relationship.)
Second you do have an Eros/Psyche soulmate pairing- it's actually a bi-quintile within a 1.5 degree orb.

You should check for other soulmate pairings, especially conjunctions for instance:
Isis/Osiris
Siva/Parvati & Siva/Kaali can work too
Pluto/Persephone or Proserpina

Um ok next I saw your composite Juno is on Cap 14'22 which is conjunct the Vega asteroid (important in TF relationships) and your composite Valentine is Tau 29'10 which is conjunct Pleiades (another astroid strong in TF relationships) in your 4th house of soul connections!

I also see that significant Yod between your composte moon sextile Chiron in your 7th and 8th with the apex at your sun in the 1st! Yods in the composite (especially in your particular houses) will have a very strong pull to get you together..a relationship ( of some kind) is almost inevitable.

I suggest you also plug in asteroids:
Atlantis
Karma
Union
* and Alma
See if your composite Juno is either conjunct or parallel to Alma

Union conjunct or parallel Alma works too.

Also see if any asteroids/ points fall on 2 degrees Libra or 27 degrees Sagittarius

posted March 29, 2014 12:29 PM              

What do you say about this idea: significant aspects involving 11th house in synastry and/or composite of twinflames, as related to the significance of number 11 - the twinflame number- and the significance of the 11th house per se?

posted March 29, 2014 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hello, "twinflamers"

What do you say about this idea: significant aspects involving 11th house in synastry and/or composite of twinflames, as related to the significance of number 11 - the twinflame number- and the significance of the 11th house per se?

Another idea I've been picking from several readings: twinflames MUST have something significant in Gemini (in synastry/composite, especially a composite Gemini Sun/maybe Moon)), since one of the meanings of being born a Gemini is the karma of finding your "twin" soul.

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Hi LeeLoo, yes I definitely feel you are correct here. Gemini is definitely associated with the TF concept. In my natal chart Gemini is the most prominent (according to Pullen) which includes my Gemini moon and venus.

My guy has Draco sun, mercury, and mars in Gemini.
In his tropical natal, his Cap sun falls in his 3rd house (naturally ruled by Gemini.)

In our tropical composite our BML, Jupiter and MC all fall in Gemini. Our composite Uranus falls in the 3rd.

posted March 29, 2014 02:11 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hello, "twinflamers"

What do you say about this idea: significant aspects involving 11th house in synastry and/or composite of twinflames, as related to the significance of number 11 - the twinflame number- and the significance of the 11th house per se?

Another idea I've been picking from several readings: twinflames MUST have something significant in Gemini (in synastry/composite, especially a composite Gemini Sun/maybe Moon)), since one of the meanings of being born a Gemini is the karma of finding your "twin" soul.

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that is interesting.

I actually had been thinking about Gemini - I mean it is the sign of the twins after all.

But maybe that was because In oticed how in my natal chart I have SN conjunct DESC in gEmini, KARMA in Gemini, and kAALI, which is on the midpoint of SN and KARMA, orb being only 13 minutes of arc. Plus conjunct SN and KARMA widely both with about 2,5 degrees each.

Also my Draco Moon is on 6.57 Gemini on my natal DESC on 7.01 Gemini. It strikes me as significant.

Anyway the 11th house is new to me, is this because of the number 11?
Incidentally though in our composite Sun, Mercury and Neptune fall into the 11th house.

Jupiter is in Gemini in 5th house (mutual reception between Mercury and Jupiter, 5th and 11th house).

Well Jupiter is definitely a key planet for us, not necessarily from the composite alone (though it disposits of course the 11th house planets and asteroids), but just from the natals alone.
Dispositing both of our stellia in sagittarius (him: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Neptune, MC// me: Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, NN, ASC)

Also using traditional rulerships, Jupiter is chartruler for both of us, and our Jupiters are closely opposite each other.

So of course Jupiter would be relevant in any relationship chart as well. Here it holds the reins in the 5th house.

Also our first meeting chart had DESC EXACTLY falling onto that Jupiter on 10 Gemini, which is at the same time the degree of my natal SN - and opposing my Neptune, and ASC and his Mercury, his DESC-ruler.

our helio composite has Earth/Moon-complex in Gemini, along with helio Jupiter-
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Draco composite has Sun and Venus in Gemini.

posted March 29, 2014 02:15 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Cool aspects, tgem!

Yes, definitely the third house too!

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Interesting about the 3rd house.

his SN is in my 3rd house, my SN is in his 3rd house (in Gemini).

posted March 29, 2014 02:52 PM              

However how is the reasoning that the 11th house is connected with twinflames?

posted March 29, 2014 03:44 PM            

Tack that on to recovering from my husband's cold ....

But I'm processing EVERYTHING.

And I couldn't help but pop in after I saw 7thGuardian.

What's the origin of your username?

Also, yes, I agree with you. This is why I become irritated so easily with it all.

posted March 29, 2014 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by afarin:
Hey guys,

I posted about this in my own thread (http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/226183.html) regarding this composite chart/synastry I have with someone. His venus conjuncts my venus and his mars conjuncts my mars, which was what I was asking about.

I was more interested in our interesting composite chart, because it seems to have a lot of different "odd" things all in one.

Someone posting on my thread suggested I post the chart here for you saying it has a lot of markers you have been looking at. If you had any notes, I'd love to hear (if not it's okay too, I don't wanna seem like I'm demanding, hahaha).

Anyway, here's the composite: [URL=http://s30.postimg.org/86si4k641/astro_621gw_60_142_anonymous_anonymous_75039_624.gif]http://s30.postimg.org/86si4k641/astro_621gw_60_142_anonymous_anonymous_75039_624.gif[/UR L]

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I truly can't say, except that I feel if the MOON is not part of the stellium, it's a signal to me that there's something basic lacking.

I agree that the packed 1H is worth noting, but it's a but illusory: SATURN, MARS, LUST, VENUS, MERCURY, and SUN. This is calling attention to it, most definitely, but to WHAT is the question.

URANUS and NEPTUNE in the 12H with JUNO are also indicating karmic involvement, as URANUS rules the chart. I agree that's significant.

CHIRON on the DSC. This is clearly no picnic!

JUPITER opposite EROS can be excessive.

I like the 7R in the 1H, except SUN is not conjunct the stellium, per se. I DO like it loosely conjunct AMOR, and 6° from VENUS.

PLUTO near the MC squaring MARS-SATURN is rough, and very karmic. Communication issues from the past; possibly even a long-standing sibling rivalry (12R and 3R conjunct). This is paramount now, being 1H and near the ASC.

MERCURY (8R)'s best ally is CERES. The means of healing deep-seated 8H issues is through sympathy, compassion, and nurturing.

The MOON being quincunx the SUN seems to me a glaring unresolved karma regarding basic masculine and feminine energies.

Are you asking how to resolve these issues? What about the composite are you specifically asking, if anything?

You may want iQ to have a look at it.

Also, I'd add in a few things:

KARMA (3811), DESTINN (6583), ALMA (390) and ISIS (42) and OSIRIS (1923).

They might be telling a whole other story.

posted March 29, 2014 04:36 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I can see that.

However how is the reasoning that the 11th house is connected with twinflames?

I can see the sign of Gemini playing a role, but why the 11th?

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Hi, Ceri.

Well, I think many things could be said and feel free to give your opinion.

Aside from the meaning of the number 11 (described in one of the links I posted somewhere above in the thread), the 11th house is, after all, the house of the "like-minded", the "true peers", the ultimate "companion", so it makes sense to connect it with the "soul mate". 11th house positions in synastry and composite are regarded as beneficial signs of true companionship, compatibility and love. It also has a "platonic" flavor which, I think, it always remains connected with twinflames.
Also, the 11th house is part of the Love Axis - houses 5 and 11 - but, unlike the 5th house, which is more terrestrial, more "behaviorial" in terms of how we love, the 11th is connected to the ideal, to Anteros(the love given-love received axis), the love oriented towards the future, reaching over time and space, in a more spiritual, ideal manner.
On the other hand, the 11th house is the house of dreams, wishes, ideals, so the ideal in love (the twinflame) must be connected somehow with at least one element in the 11th.

Here is an excerpt about 11th meanings:

11th House

Element: Air / Mode: Succedent / Quadrant: 4

The fellowship of like-minded people, friends and groups that share your values and ideals; banding together with others to achieve your collective goals; group identity.

Hopes, ideals, wishes; groups or organizations; relationships with groups (as opposed to one-to-one relationships in the 7th house); your roots and attachments to the social world; friendships; experiencing the role of the Beloved, being the object of another's love.

But I'm still ruminating on this idea, I'd like to hear your opinions.

posted March 29, 2014 04:43 PM              

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Would be nice - if at least one twin flame (or more like - one of the vessels) could stick around and give some insight of its experience. Maybe some do - for a last act even a sacrifice... i mean, it's still possible for one vessel to prolong its stay a little longer. Though, it's not hard to understand why - it loses interest in this world after the merger. We do see the outcomes - as their return, their new experience - affects our evolution on a bigger scale, but - in terms of astrology, you can't identify a twin flame without an actual example.

Most description of a Twin Flame - start from the premise of an actual Twin Flame - but eventually, even shortly after it stars describing it - goes on with a description of a soul mate. Thus - many whom are in a romantic relationship revolving around what's know as a soul mate - type of connection, seem more fond of the uniqueness of a twin flame - and chose that as a description of their experience (maybe they do that - because it implies a certain level of gratification that's soothing for their ego), but... when it comes to a twin flame - there's very little room for romantic connotations on a physical level. Their human vessels can go so far... but still, one of them - could last a little longer - if it chooses.

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Hi,

posted March 29, 2014 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hello, "twinflamers"

What do you say about this idea: significant aspects involving 11th house in synastry and/or composite of twinflames, as related to the significance of number 11 - the twinflame number- and the significance of the 11th house per se?

Another idea I've been picking from several readings: twinflames MUST have something significant in Gemini (in synastry/composite, especially a composite Gemini Sun/maybe Moon)), since one of the meanings of being born a Gemini is the karma of finding your "twin" soul.

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Twinflamers. Heh! I like that.

Unfortunately, I've got to add 'sometimes' to the GEMINI 'requirement'.

I think, rather, those who are from a particular group or family may be more oriented towards particular signs - especially Fixed Stars.

Mine and I are almost exclusively SCORPIO. It's only when you look at our Draco, do certain things switch to GEMINI - among them, JUNO, ALMA, ISIS and OSIRIS.

posted March 29, 2014 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I can see that.

However how is the reasoning that the 11th house is connected with twinflames?

I can see the sign of Gemini playing a role, but why the 11th?

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I think bottom like is that the number 11 is associated with TF's same as 22 as both are master numbers and 22 breaks down to 11. There's a ton of stuff written about 11 and TF's. I think that's where the 11th house must come in. I've read a couple of different articles saying the 11th house is associated with TF's.

Speaking of numerology being significant, I was reading an article in which a TF was talking about their connection to each other and one was awakened but the other was only on the verge of being awakened. She talked about the telepathic connection/communication that went on between them at a purely soul/sub-conscious level that she wasn't even aware of at the time it was happening. She talked about emails being sent on dates that had the number 11 associated with it and the titles of Emails could be deciphered as 11.

So just for s***s and giggles I typed in the day we met:
March, 15th, 2010 @ 7 PM
Or
03-15-2010 @ 19 hours
3+1+5+2+0+1+0+1+9= 22 or 11!!!!

Also, remember when I said many pages back that I had sent Cusp a letter telling him how I felt and apologizing for everything that happened? ( I think either Lavender or Michelle did the same thing) Well I just so happened to check the date I sent it - get this:
Email sent: June 21st, 2013 @ 10:24 AM
Or
06-21-2013 @ 10:24
0+6+2+1+2+0+1+3+1+0+2+4= 22 or 11!!! HOLY HANNAH!!!!!
Can you believe that??!! What are the chances I picked that exact date at that exact time to click send on that letter??!!! That totally fits what she was talking about with the subconscious communication going on.

On top of that, she talked about the title of the email from her TF being "Hello". She thought this was slightly weird and un-characteristic of him. Somehow, she deciphered that the word "Hello" translates to the number 11? I have no idea what method she used...

posted March 29, 2014 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, Ceri.

Well, I think many things could be said and feel free to give your opinion.

Aside from the meaning of the number 11 (described in one of the links I posted somewhere above in the thread), the 11th house is, after all, the house of the "like-minded", the "true peers", the ultimate "companion", so it makes sense to connect it with the "soul mate". 11th house positions in synastry and composite are regarded as beneficial signs of true companionship, compatibility and love. It also has a "platonic" flavor which, I think, it always remains connected with twinflames.
Also, the 11th house is part of the Love Axis - houses 5 and 11 - but, unlike the 5th house, which is more terrestrial, more "behaviorial" in terms of how we love, the 11th is connected to the ideal, to Anteros(the love given-love received axis), the love oriented towards the future, reaching over time and space, in a more spiritual, ideal manner.
On the other hand, the 11th house is the house of dreams, wishes, ideals, so the ideal in love (the twinflame) must be connected somehow with at least one element in the 11th.

Here is an excerpt about 11th meanings:

[b]11th House

Element: Air / Mode: Succedent / Quadrant: 4

The fellowship of like-minded people, friends and groups that share your values and ideals; banding together with others to achieve your collective goals; group identity.

Hopes, ideals, wishes; groups or organizations; relationships with groups (as opposed to one-to-one relationships in the 7th house); your roots and attachments to the social world; friendships; experiencing the role of the Beloved, being the object of another's love.

But I'm still ruminating on this idea, I'd like to hear your opinions.

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posted March 29, 2014 05:04 PM              

The 11 is important in twinflame numerology because it is the ONE mirrored by ONE, and the 11th house isnīt about that at all, it is about the integration of an individual in a social context.
Actually I would assume it to be very important in terms of soulgroups, yes, but twinflames? No doesn`t convince me.

posted March 29, 2014 05:04 PM              

Time for a dose of reality from Doctor Astro!
The chance of finding what people call a "twin flame" is very low. The chances of these couples being with their "twin flame" is also very low. Still a chance though.

How I go about fining one is as follows....was looking today actually.

Find out from your natal chart when they were born.

Which means your 11th ruler in transit (at the the time of potential twin soul birth) must be conjunct your natal 7th ruler. With your 7th ruler in transit (at the time of your potential twin soul birth) conjunct to your 11th ruler.

Why this way?

From your natal and transits for when your potential partner is born, you can check to see in your chart WHEN your partner is born.

I am Aqua rising. Jupiter rules my 11th. Sun rules my 7th.
My 11th is partners 5th. My 7th is partners 1st.
To find a birth of any kind, you look to 5th ruler in aspect to 1st ruler an also 1st in aspect to 5th ruler.
Good aspects are fine, but the conjunction is better. Best one!

If you want to test this idea out, look at when a person important to you was born and it should show up.

You will come up with a few options for that. Or at least you should.

Then.....I do a little more. Even though the above should be enough.

Once I have a few charts that satisfy the above conditions, I look at my 1st and 7th rulers in aspect to her 1st and 7th rulers.
The best will be my 1st conjunct her 7th. Other way round too. My 7th conjunct her 1st too, and other way round.

For a bit extra, check the rest of the houses to see if it matches the house ruler for the other person.

Lots of well aspected options to choose from using the above method, but I go one step too far and look for an actual date. Not a few. It would be nice to try this way, if only for an experiment.

posted March 29, 2014 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Twinflamers. Heh! I like that.

Unfortunately, I've got to add 'sometimes' to the GEMINI 'requirement'.

I think, rather, those who are from a particular group or family may be more oriented towards particular signs - especially Fixed Stars.

Mine and I are almost exclusively SCORPIO. It's only when you look at our Draco, do certain things switch to GEMINI - among them, JUNO, ALMA, ISIS and OSIRIS.

Is this significant? Perhaps. Statistically? No. I think it's mere chance that'd happen, and to make a single sign a prerequisite or crucial criterion seems over-simplified, and likely to result in incorrect conclusions being drawn. Some false positives, and worse, erroneously refuted / disregarded.

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Indigo,
We have a lot of Scorpio too, he's a Scorpio ASC and I have a Draco sun and moon in Scorpio. We're both very Plutonian natally as well.

posted March 29, 2014 05:09 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I also found this (although I'm still trying to figure out what she means and why):

[b]Time for a dose of reality from Doctor Astro!
The chance of finding what people call a "twin flame" is very low. The chances of these couples being with their "twin flame" is also very low. Still a chance though.

How I go about fining one is as follows....was looking today actually.

Find out from your natal chart when they were born.

Which means your 11th ruler in transit (at the the time of potential twin soul birth) must be conjunct your natal 7th ruler. With your 7th ruler in transit (at the time of your potential twin soul birth) conjunct to your 11th ruler.

Why this way?

From your natal and transits for when your potential partner is born, you can check to see in your chart WHEN your partner is born.

I am Aqua rising. Jupiter rules my 11th. Sun rules my 7th.
My 11th is partners 5th. My 7th is partners 1st.
To find a birth of any kind, you look to 5th ruler in aspect to 1st ruler an also 1st in aspect to 5th ruler.
Good aspects are fine, but the conjunction is better. Best one!

If you want to test this idea out, look at when a person important to you was born and it should show up.

You will come up with a few options for that. Or at least you should.

Then.....I do a little more. Even though the above should be enough.

Once I have a few charts that satisfy the above conditions, I look at my 1st and 7th rulers in aspect to her 1st and 7th rulers.
The best will be my 1st conjunct her 7th. Other way round too. My 7th conjunct her 1st too, and other way round.

For a bit extra, check the rest of the houses to see if it matches the house ruler for the other person.

Lots of well aspected options to choose from using the above method, but I go one step too far and look for an actual date. Not a few. It would be nice to try this way, if only for an experiment.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001716-2.html [/B]

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posted March 29, 2014 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Indigo,

I hope you are okay.

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