posted March 30, 2014 12:23 PM              

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Of course as you can see it is symmetrical, with the midpoint axis being created by the triseptile of my Mars and his Chiron, and his Venus and my Juno.

my Mars/his Chiron: 22°22 Aquarius
his Venus/ my Juno: 21°56 Aquarius

Where it gets REALLY mindboggling - at least to my mind, is this:

composite:
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OSIRIS 21.41 Aquarius

Saturn 21.50 Leo

posted March 30, 2014 12:39 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
btw that is how the mentioned Chiron-Juno-Venus-Mars pattern in our comparision looks like graphically

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Of course as you can see it is symmetrical, with the midpoint axis being created by the triseptile of my Mars and his Chiron, and his Venus and my Juno.

my Mars/his Chiron: 22°22 Aquarius
his Venus/ my Juno: 21°56 Aquarius

Where it gets REALLY mindboggling - at least to my mind, is this:

composite:
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OSIRIS 21.41 Aquarius

Saturn 21.50 Leo

First meeting:
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Tr Chiron 21.09 Aquarius
Tr Node: 21°51 Aquarius

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posted March 30, 2014 12:44 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Hey Ceri remember when I mentioned my pro IC was conjunct progressed Pluto on the day of my divorce filing.

How would pro MC conjunct pro Pluto manifest? I would think it's still going to be very significant but how would it be different than the IC? I mean I know the MC talks about your career, social status, reputation and all...could it be like loss of a job of something?

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A push into prominence usually.

It could be a loss of job if it is not the rgith one for you, yes. in the negative you could also do something that taints your professional reputation (secret affairs probably won`t stay secret).

posted March 30, 2014 12:50 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I've read that when you have symetrical geometry (especially involving an intersection), you should look for the focal point (which depends on the nature of the geometrical configuration - usually the median line). In your case,it almost touches your Moon - this is the energy or the event triggering the configuration.

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I suppose our Psyche-conjunction is even closer to this. on 24-25 Aquarius.

Interestingly also his ATLANTIS on 20 Leo and my CUPIDO on almost 20 Leo are conjuncting it from the other side.

posted March 30, 2014 12:57 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I suppose our Psyche-conjunction is even closer to this. on 24-25 Aquarius.

Interestingly also his ATLANTIS on 20 Leo and my CUPIDO on almost 20 Leo are conjuncting it from the other side.

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The Psyche conjunction seems very significant to me, like a common incarnation or an astral reunion, especially combined with Atlantis.

posted March 30, 2014 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Indigo,

about the comp you posted.
I don`t quite know why and maybe I am totally wrong, but even though it is so condensed with the 1st house emphasis it doesn`t "FEEL" like tf to me.

As I said I am probably missing the point, overlooking something, but it does`t "vibe" that much.

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Go on.

posted March 30, 2014 01:21 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Go on.

Also, as to your dream, I had one very similar when I was sixteen. Never, ever, forgot it. STILL don't know the origin of the disaster, either. But, oh, do I remember its aftermath.

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Something I've read recently, but I'm still looking for similar opinions elsewhere: composites where almost all planets are conjunct point to a very significant relationship that will change our life or our perception about love or life, but they are not meant to last; usually when they crash, they crash irremediably, because all planets in the huge conjunction fall at the same time, following a domino effect. An idea that is not without substance, IMO.

It seems to be an opinion contrary to the ones I noticed on this forum, where a condensed composite is regarded as a sign of a good composite.

My experience however supports the first theory: with my ex, who was a mirror of my natal, so the composite was just like yours, an aligned conjunction, we had a very intense, life changing relationship, but when the lessons where learned, the relationship ended.

Obviously, it doesn't have to be your case. I'm still looking into this theory by studying the charts of long term couples etc.

Here is the composite with my ex, in the middle. As you can see, our natals are two Fans mirroring each other. Although the composite chart doesn't lack geometry, it still manifested as the domino effect on the huge conjunction in houses 6-7:

posted March 30, 2014 01:57 PM            

EDIT: D'oh! Saw the issue. All fixed.

TROPICAL SYNASTRY:

and, HELIO COMP:

posted March 30, 2014 02:15 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Something I've read recently, but I'm still looking for similar opinions elsewhere: composites where almost all planets are conjunct point to a very significant relationship that will change our life or our perception about love or life, but they are not meant to last; usually when they crash, they crash irremediably, because all planets in the huge conjunction fall at the same time, following a domino effect. An idea that is not without substance, IMO.

It seems to be an opinion contrary to the ones I noticed on this forum, where a condensed composite is regarded as a sign of a good composite.

My experience however supports the first theory: with my ex, who was a mirror of my natal, so the composite was just like yours, an aligned conjunction, we had a very intense, life changing relationship, but when the lessons where learned, the relationship ended.

Obviously, it doesn't have to be your case. I'm still looking into this theory by studying the charts of long term couples etc.

Here is the composite with my ex, in the middle. As you can see, our natals are two Fans mirroring each other. Although the composite chart doesn't lack geometry, it still manifested as the domino effect on the huge conjunction in houses 6-7:

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I couldn't agree more with what you've said. I think it's a configuration that's inherently stable, and not at all what I'd want to see in the chart of a relationship you'd like to see "going the distance".

posted March 30, 2014 02:21 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
And, since you're on the right track, Ceri ...

TROPICAL SYNASTRY:

and, HELIO COMP:

I think this is an interesting comparison, because of how, at first brush, it seems to satisfy some of the expected markers. It's when you look deeper, you see why you get a different 'vibe'.

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I cannot see the pics unfortunately.

However the two things that struck me first about the composite were:

1. no soulmate pairing aspects directly

2. soulmate asteroids did not seem to link to some other markers (like even though not aspctec per se, each one being in strong aspect to a love or fate marker. Does not need to e the same I think)

3. Valentine and Amor aspects are not that strong; esp. Valentine is seriously lacking.

4. No Alma-Juno (I wouldn`t base my conclusion on this alone of course).

However, with Moon conjunct Eros there might still be considerable attraction. Interesting how this is squared the nodal axis, maybe representing a skipped step from a past life. Maybe that is also a reason why it is so close to being angular. Moon-EROS has to be resolved (might even mean there has to be some kind of sexual intimacy, or a creative outlet).

AMOR on the SN in Pisces - a spiritual unconconditional love coming from the past.
Jupiter on the NN in Virgo - developing into the direction of a true mentorship or guiding-light-relationship. There is benevolence I suppose with Jupiter, and it is prominent on Regulus.
I suppose this is what I would expect to see in a composite of guardian soulmates, maybe? What doyou htink Indiog?

the NN Sabian is telling, too
Black And White Children Play Together Happily

The striving for harmony, tolerance, crossing the gaps between different people, maybe nations, cultures, or social distinctions.

The Sabians of the Moon-Eros-conjunction,
"A Little Child Learning To Walk With The Encouragement Of His Parents"
"An Old Owl Sits Alone On The Branch Of A Large Tree"

It makes me want to ask, where is MERLIN in this composite? lol

The traditional ruler of SN, Jupiter, conjunct NN - a connection that HAD to be, it had to form again, from the past

the newer ruler of SN, Neptune, conjuncts the ruler of NN, Mercury, again a marker of this being "meant to be" - just maybe not meant to e twinflames.

In Sagittarius, 1st house. Very prominent, alright, and conjunct Juno.
Is this the composite with your husband?
Nah probably not, an I am jsut fantasizing.

with them being conjunct JUNO, I can`t help but think that some sort of relationship was or is in order. Of course often Juno comes in the form of marriage, but could maybe also be a different kind of committment.

The tightest connection here is the NN-ruler Mercury conjunct JUNO - so it is sort of the focal point.

19 SAgittarius
Pelicans Menaced By The Behavior And Refuse Of Men Seek Safer Areas For Bringing Up Their Young

Is this the purpose? To provide nurturing and care for someone else? Children maybe?

Neptune 20 SAg
In An Old-Fashioned Northern Village Men Cut The Ice Of A Frozen Pond For Use During The Summer

Shared past life in a Viking environement? Yes I AM fantasizing now. lol

it trines DESTINN - the ONLY aspect DESTINN seems to have

Pluto sextiles it, though not very closely, which gives a nice transformative vibe.

of course importantly the Vertex axis intersects the harmless looking sextile.

the chartrulers are not doing all that much. Venus and Pluto are almost conjunct, yes we could probably count it, but it is tantalizing, in that it is not near enough to have REAL impact, but too close to ignore it.

Apart from that they are doing - nothing. Not much at least.

Mars has a nice trine to Jupiter - but not really all that passionate aspects.

Then there is LUST conjunct Saturn, I actually donīt mind aspects between Lust and Saturn, but I feel they need some positive aspects, too, to be nicely attractive and sexual.
If however Saturn is the only one aspecting Lust, and no matter what aspect it is, it might seriously dampen the animal-lust. Though some say it would make you all the more obsessive, but however it might be, it oculd be really unbalanced.

here it is sextile Uranus and square Neptune-Atlantis.

I`d think there would be an on-off-magnetism. Sparks of chemistry cooling very quickly and unpredictably, and with Neptune squaring, though it is rather widish, there might be a tendency to lose sexual interest alltogether. Or just fantasize about it, not doing it.

posted March 30, 2014 02:24 PM              

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Originally posted by page one:
I couldn't agree more with what you've said. I think it's a configuration that's inherently stable, and not at all what I'd want to see in the chart of a relationship you'd like to see "going the distance".

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posted March 30, 2014 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Something I've read recently, but I'm still looking for similar opinions elsewhere: composites where almost all planets are conjunct point to a very significant relationship that will change our life or our perception about love or life, but they are not meant to last; usually when they crash, they crash irremediably, because all planets in the huge conjunction fall at the same time, following a domino effect. An idea that is not without substance, IMO.

It seems to be an opinion contrary to the ones I noticed on this forum, where a condensed composite is regarded as a sign of a good composite.

My experience however supports the first theory: with my ex, who was a mirror of my natal, so the composite was just like yours, an aligned conjunction, we had a very intense, life changing relationship, but when the lessons where learned, the relationship ended.

Obviously, it doesn't have to be your case. I'm still looking into this theory by studying the charts of long term couples etc.

Here is the composite with my ex, in the middle. As you can see, our natals are two Fans mirroring each other. Although the composite chart doesn't lack geometry, it still manifested as the domino effect on the huge conjunction in houses 6-7:

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I appreciate your sharing this. This is why we're studying these in-depth.

For starters, I'm not sure I buy the theory regarding highly condensed geo-tropical composites. I've seen the reverse to be true; not just once, either. Many, many times.

And, I must point out, that your composite is not like the one I have posted with my Twin Flame. Yes, you do have a stellium - in SCORPIO, no less! And it's in the 7H, which is a more common placement for such connexions and relationships.

So why do I get the immediate sense of Soulmates?

Perhaps the fact THAT it's in the 7H, and SCORPIO, and involving SUN-VENUS-LUST, and MOON-VALENTINE-MARS-VERTEX, and MERCURY-NEPTUNE.

At first brush, this may be a similar, but it's VERY different.

There's no contact between EROS and PSYCHE.

PSYCHE is conjunct BML, however, at the top of the chart. To me that speaks of a deeply transformative experience in the area of raw sexuality. Very prominent, too.

NNODE-VESTA in 8H is even further indicative of this.

In short, this is a VERY intense, undeniably sexual composite.

UNION-ANTEROS is the likely reason it came into being and was manifested into physical reality.

AMOR-URANUS shows an unpredictability, fickle, on-again / off-again regarding something quite crucial in a love relationship: agape. Unconditional love. Here, in SCORPIO, it seems subject to the whims and moods of the sexual relationship. Sex really is the barometre for the whole thing here.

The CERES-JUPITER is a good indication of genuine caring, compassion, and sympathy, trine VALENTINE-MARS.

Actually, let's talk about VALENTINE. It's kind of a lynchpin here.

VALENTINE is part of a very intense, clearly sexual stellium: MOON-MARS-VERTEX. It's emotional, volatile - and fated. I have no doubt that, when lessons are learnt, off you go.

VALENTINE is conjunct MARS, however. Not the MOON. When it's good, it's AMAZING. When it's bad, it's HORRIBLE. That sort of thing. And SCORPIO is all about highs and lows.

I can't say that MOON-VALENTINE is that much better - or would be here - with MARS. But it may at least add a sense of deep true love to your emotional portrait. You need that, I feel, to weather the rougher storms.

What about SUN-VENUS-LUST?

That may be the more stable one - except it's getting ticked by CHIRON from the 12H. Quincunx. Tight, too. Karma-city, that one. There's a necessity for adjustment at the very core of your relationship (SUN), how it expresses love and affection (VENUS) and its 'spark' (LUST).

Hard to see, but it appears EROS is tightly trine AMOR-URANUS?

If the very nature of your unconditional love is dependent upon freedom of expression, and the space and friendship you afford each other, it stands to reason that all-things-EROS might be part of that package, too. If all's well there, then all's well everywhere. And, contrariwise. If it ain't - it ain't.

I can imagine the NEPTUNE-MERCURY brought some wonderful, telepathic, soulful communications.

I think the KARMA-VESTA opposition is key to what you were here to do together.

With NNODE-VESTA in the 8H, 'sexual devotion' might be a worthwhile phrase; NNODE there is only pushing you towards it.

But what of KARMA opposing from the 2H?

The 2H is an oft-overlooked house; represents our values. Self-esteem. What we have to offer others. What we hold dear. Our possessions. And what we DETERMINE as possessions.

I think you both held on to each other too tightly in the past. AMOR-URANUS is saying, 'if you love it, set it free'. In the 6H, this is part of the 'service' this relationship was offering to the Grand Cosmic Scoreboard.

KARMA, in GEMINI, as we know, is the two-which-is-one. Your karma's wrapped up in that. In what you term possessions. What you call 'MINE'. VESTA in devoted. But here, she's not aligned with your karma. She's pulling against it, desperate to devote herself to the resources OTHERS may provide. That which may be held JOINTLY.

SATURN is hanging out in a loose quincunx as if to make absolutely sure you follow through on it, too - while throwing some nice trines to MOON, MARS-VALENTINE-VERTEX.

Yes. You were absolutely meant - fated, I'd say - to meet, to love, to merge, and to bring greater understanding to the questions: what am I? What is Other? How do Self and Other join? How do they separate? What is MINE? What is OTHER'S? IS Other MINE?

The answer should be: no. Other is NOT yours. Other is contracted to, or bound to, you. They do not BELONG to you.

I have some similar things in another composite, actually. It's the one in which I'm learning a similar lesson.

I should add, something that I'm becoming strangely certain about.

There's GOT to be connexion between the SUN and MOON in such a composite. That doesn't make it one of Twin Flames - but it certainly increases the likelihood.

Granted, the one I share with mine is a loose conjunction, indeed. But it's HOW the conjunction is taking place - and where.

It conjoins JUPITER, on the ASC. It's linked with VENUS, then VALENTINE, which then links to MOON.

VALENTINE is the link between JUPITER-SUN-VENUS, and MOON-MERCURY. The way it's nestled between VENUS and MOON, I think, matters a great deal.

posted March 30, 2014 02:59 PM              

However c-Sun is conjunct his n Sun/Moon-mp;
c-Moon is conjunct my n Sun/Moon-mp.

Synastrically of course my Sun conjuncts his Moon; his Sun septiles my Moon (0°45)

I do feel Sun-Moon-resonance, but it is not really visible in the composite alone.

The Sun-Moon-dispositors are exactly quintile in 5th and 7th house though. ( only mention this cause they are the base-aspect of a Golden Yod with Venus on the apex)

posted March 30, 2014 03:10 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I appreciate your sharing this. This is why we're studying these in-depth.

For starters, I'm not sure I buy the theory regarding highly condensed geo-tropical composites. I've seen the reverse to be true; not just once, either. Many, many times.

And, I must point out, that your composite is not like the one I have posted with my Twin Flame. Yes, you do have a stellium - in SCORPIO, no less! And it's in the 7H, which is a more common placement for such connexions and relationships.

So why do I get the immediate sense of Soulmates?

Perhaps the fact THAT it's in the 7H, and SCORPIO, and involving SUN-VENUS-LUST, and MOON-VALENTINE-MARS-VERTEX, and MERCURY-NEPTUNE.

At first brush, this may be a similar, but it's VERY different.

There's no contact between EROS and PSYCHE.

PSYCHE is conjunct BML, however, at the top of the chart. To me that speaks of a deeply transformative experience in the area of raw sexuality. Very prominent, too.

NNODE-VESTA in 8H is even further indicative of this.

In short, this is a VERY intense, undeniably sexual composite.

UNION-ANTEROS is the likely reason it came into being and was manifested into physical reality.

AMOR-URANUS shows an unpredictability, fickle, on-again / off-again regarding something quite crucial in a love relationship: agape. Unconditional love. Here, in SCORPIO, it seems subject to the whims and moods of the sexual relationship. Sex really is the barometre for the whole thing here.

The CERES-JUPITER is a good indication of genuine caring, compassion, and sympathy, trine VALENTINE-MARS.

Actually, let's talk about VALENTINE. It's kind of a lynchpin here.

VALENTINE is part of a very intense, clearly sexual stellium: MOON-MARS-VERTEX. It's emotional, volatile - and fated. I have no doubt that, when lessons are learnt, off you go.

VALENTINE is conjunct MARS, however. Not the MOON. When it's good, it's AMAZING. When it's bad, it's HORRIBLE. That sort of thing. And SCORPIO is all about highs and lows.

I can't say that MOON-VALENTINE is that much better - or would be here - with MARS. But it may at least add a sense of deep true love to your emotional portrait. You need that, I feel, to weather the rougher storms.

What about SUN-VENUS-LUST?

That may be the more stable one - except it's getting ticked by CHIRON from the 12H. Quincunx. Tight, too. Karma-city, that one. There's a necessity for adjustment at the very core of your relationship (SUN), how it expresses love and affection (VENUS) and its 'spark' (LUST).

Hard to see, but it appears EROS is tightly trine AMOR-URANUS?

If the very nature of your unconditional love is dependent upon freedom of expression, and the space and friendship you afford each other, it stands to reason that all-things-EROS might be part of that package, too. If all's well there, then all's well everywhere. And, contrariwise. If it ain't - it ain't.

I can imagine the NEPTUNE-MERCURY brought some wonderful, telepathic, soulful communications.

I think the KARMA-VESTA opposition is key to what you were here to do together.

With NNODE-VESTA in the 8H, 'sexual devotion' might be a worthwhile phrase; NNODE there is only pushing you towards it.

But what of KARMA opposing from the 2H?

The 2H is an oft-overlooked house; represents our values. Self-esteem. What we have to offer others. What we hold dear. Our possessions. And what we DETERMINE as possessions.

I think you both held on to each other too tightly in the past. AMOR-URANUS is saying, 'if you love it, set it free'. In the 6H, this is part of the 'service' this relationship was offering to the Grand Cosmic Scoreboard.

KARMA, in GEMINI, as we know, is the two-which-is-one. Your karma's wrapped up in that. In what you term possessions. What you call 'MINE'. VESTA in devoted. But here, she's not aligned with your karma. She's pulling against it, desperate to devote herself to the resources OTHERS may provide. That which may be held JOINTLY.

SATURN is hanging out in a loose quincunx as if to make absolutely sure you follow through on it, too - while throwing some nice trines to MOON, MARS-VALENTINE-VERTEX.

Yes. You were absolutely meant - fated, I'd say - to meet, to love, to merge, and to bring greater understanding to the questions: what am I? What is Other? How do Self and Other join? How do they separate? What is MINE? What is OTHER'S? IS Other MINE?

The answer should be: no. Other is NOT yours. Other is contracted to, or bound to, you. They do not BELONG to you.

I have some similar things in another composite, actually. It's the one in which I'm learning a similar lesson.

I should add, something that I'm becoming strangely certain about.

There's GOT to be connexion between the SUN and MOON in such a composite. That doesn't make it one of Twin Flames - but it certainly increases the likelihood.

Granted, the one I share with mine is a loose conjunction, indeed. But it's HOW the conjunction is taking place - and where.

It conjoins JUPITER, on the ASC. It's linked with VENUS, then VALENTINE, which then links to MOON.

VALENTINE is the link between JUPITER-SUN-VENUS, and MOON-MERCURY. The way it's nestled between VENUS and MOON, I think, matters a great deal.

The VALENTINE in your chart points to - yes - a powerful, explosive, intensely karmic bonding. Soul-gripping, heart-rending kind of love. But a love that needed to ultimately learn not to cling so tightly.

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Thank you, IndigoDirae. Your description is not only spot on, it describes our relationship amazingly, but it is also a very "personal" description, in the sense that I find your ideas often very fresh and unusual, you have an original perspective on things. I'm not sure about the Sun-Moon thing, because in this composite the Sun and Moon are part of the same stellium in Scorpio, so their energies blend in my opinion, because at some point the stellium reacts in unison.

posted March 30, 2014 03:22 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
And, since you're on the right track, Ceri ...

EDIT: D'oh! Saw the issue. All fixed.

TROPICAL SYNASTRY:

and, HELIO COMP:

I think this is an interesting comparison, because of how, at first brush, it seems to satisfy some of the expected markers. It's when you look deeper, you see why you get a different 'vibe'.

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Just by looking at your synastry... yours is definitely a fated LOVE connection. Moon, Venus, Valentine aspects and all those Axis - Nodes-vertex connections are very strong, not to mention Sun-Pluto, which is mesmerizing. You have Sun septile Moon and Sun quintile Moon (if I-m not mistaken) which is a wonderful DW.

Have you checked if his planets complete your geometry? Like a planet/asteroid of his forming a Grand Trine with an isolated trine of yours, a planet/asteroid forming a Grand Cross with a T-square of yours etc. and viceversa? These are extremely binding.

posted March 30, 2014 03:31 PM              

Sorry I probably do not have time enough or the right mindspace to get into your composite.

But just what I noticed:

Venus conjunct ASC in Scorpio - strong intense attraction

And again we have a SN.ruler conjunct the NN - a relationship/ connection from the past forming again, pretty much a meant-to-be thing (though meant to be what, is always the question?)

Sun on the SN also points to that.

Amor trine Jupiter on IC in water signs, with KARMA on the midpoint, sextile both, to me that seems like really good deep feelings between the two of you. Jupiter expands what it touches, and if he touches an asteroid of unconditional love, all the better.
IT might not be extremely intense on its own though. more compassionate than strictly romantic.
Also with Saturn so close, there is probably some fatedness and glue ther.

Anyway Saturn-square-Pluto looks decidedly challenging, and probably posing a serious obstacle in getting together, esp. since Pluto rules the whole chart.

However you also have VALENTINE opposite EROS, with EROS on Kundalini degree, that should take care of the erotic attraction.

JUNO conjunct CERES trine VESTA - very caring

GT between PSYCHE-CUPIDO-Moon.

Psyche-Cupido is a "kind-of-soulmate-pairing", not as strong as Eros-Psyche, but it is still there.
Moon-Psyche of course is very gentle, intuitive, maybe telepathic.

So far I would say there are beautiful things in there, gentle affinity and tender aspects, affection, and erotic romantic attraction as well.
Fatedness,t oo.

But I am as of now not sure about soulmate/ twinflames.
Do you have any soulmate pairings aspecting in composite?
Or linked aspects?

angular planets:
Venus
Jupiter

Sabian of Sun
Dancing Couples In A Harvest Festival

ASC - vnus
A Rabbit Metamorphoses Into A Nature Sprit

Jupiter
Illumined By A Shaft Of Light, A Large Cross Lies On Rocks Surrounded By Sea

Romantic, sexual, spiritual. Yes.

But I truely would like to see

PROSERPINA/PERSEPHONE
ISIS/OSIRIS
SIVA/RUDRA/KAALI/PARVATI

ANUBIS.

posted March 30, 2014 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, Mr Sag`s and my composite does not have a Sun-Moon-aspect either.

However c-Sun is conjunct his n Sun/Moon-mp;
c-Moon is conjunct my n Sun/Moon-mp.

Synastrically of course my Sun conjuncts his Moon; his Sun septiles my Moon (0°45)

I do feel Sun-Moon-resonance, but it is not really visible in the composite alone.

The Sun-Moon-dispositors are exactly quintile in 5th and 7th house though. ( only mention this cause they are the base-aspect of a Golden Yod with Venus on the apex)

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See, THAT I love.

SUN conjunct MOON
MOON septile SUN

THAT is the essence of synergy.

I learnt a while back that it'll either bowl us over synastrically, or in composite, or we have to dig deeper.

People used to go, 'oh, no, HIS MOON conjunct HER SUN. The energies are all off!'

This was 1950s-era thinking, I assure you. My father's MOON is on my mother's SUN, and their MOONs are conjunct. And ... oh, screw it.

and

GEO TROPICAL SYNASTRY:

The adoration my father has for my mother is practically palpable. Needless to say, she turned away dozens of wealthy suitors - even a count - to marry the charming, hardworking rockstar. My grandparents were quite flummoxed, too. She had gotten a (gasp!) psychology degree! And, while from a good, very well-off family - he was touring the country with - (gasp!) a rock band! And - worst of all - he's a Catholic! (She grew up Methodist.)

Yeah. Those were the times. 1974. 8th of June.

This year will mark their 40th wedding anniversary. They're doing something right.

posted March 30, 2014 03:52 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

Sorry I probably do not have time enough or the right mindspace to get into your composite.

But just what I noticed:

Venus conjunct ASC in Scorpio - strong intense attraction

And again we have a SN.ruler conjunct the NN - a relationship/ connection from the past forming again, pretty much a meant-to-be thing (though meant to be what, is always the question?)

Sun on the SN also points to that.

Amor trine Jupiter on IC in water signs, with KARMA on the midpoint, sextile both, to me that seems like really good deep feelings between the two of you. Jupiter expands what it touches, and if he touches an asteroid of unconditional love, all the better.
IT might not be extremely intense on its own though. more compassionate than strictly romantic.
Also with Saturn so close, there is probably some fatedness and glue ther.

Anyway Saturn-square-Pluto looks decidedly challenging, and probably posing a serious obstacle in getting together, esp. since Pluto rules the whole chart.

However you also have VALENTINE opposite EROS, with EROS on Kundalini degree, that should take care of the erotic attraction.

JUNO conjunct CERES trine VESTA - very caring

GT between PSYCHE-CUPIDO-Moon.

Psyche-Cupido is a "kind-of-soulmate-pairing", not as strong as Eros-Psyche, but it is still there.
Moon-Psyche of course is very gentle, intuitive, maybe telepathic.

So far I would say there are beautiful things in there, gentle affinity and tender aspects, affection, and erotic romantic attraction as well.
Fatedness,t oo.

But I am as of now not sure about soulmate/ twinflames.
Do you have any soulmate pairings aspecting in composite?
Or linked aspects?

angular planets:
Venus
Jupiter

Sabian of Sun
Dancing Couples In A Harvest Festival

ASC - vnus
A Rabbit Metamorphoses Into A Nature Sprit

Jupiter
Illumined By A Shaft Of Light, A Large Cross Lies On Rocks Surrounded By Sea

Romantic, sexual, spiritual. Yes.

But I truely would like to see

PROSERPINA/PERSEPHONE
ISIS/OSIRIS
SIVA/RUDRA/KAALI/PARVATI

ANUBIS.

I am sorry if I overlooked the big picture, but that was my first impression

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Ceri, thank you, I am very grateful, it's already a lot and you said many things I didn't notice or didn't know about, like all that ruler NN/SN analysis. And you checked the sabians too..you rule!

In synastry we have:

Pluto conjunct Proserpina
Pluto semisextile Proserpina

Pluto trine Persephona (his Perspehona is conjunct his Mars 1 degree)

Siva opposite Kaali
Siva sextile Kaali exact

Moon conjunct Isis
Our Osiris are conjunct, Isis Osiris in the same sign (Scorpio)

In Composite:

Rudra conjunct Parvati
Siva trine Kaali

I don't know what Anubis stands for. In our synastry our Anubis are conjunct near his IC/NN. In composite Anubis forms a Grand Cross with Saturn, Moon and Jupiter.

Our synastry is very sexual; it's still on the 116 page.

posted March 30, 2014 03:59 PM              

your parents are GORGEOUS!

Actually your mom seemed so familiar to me. It took men evne a few seconds to realize that as a matter of fact she resembles MY mom. lol
Not too much to have them for sisters, but actually there are pictures of my Mom when she still had long hair (she is wearing it shorter today), from her youth, she was looking like a younger version of YOUR Mom.
In fact my Dad has a black-and-white picture of her on his nightstand from her 20`s, and she was looking like some glamourous filmstar from the early ages of Hollywood.

But even more so the loving vibration on that picture, yes, that is just how my parents "glow" when together, as well.

They do have a Sun-Moon-opposition, and again, my Dad`s Moon in Taurus to Mum`s Scorpio Sun.

"My father's MOON is on my mother's SUN, and their MOONs are conjunct. And ... oh, screw it."
Wow! And Moon as well!

nteresting Mr Sag and me share something similiar, just more solar oriented, as his Sun-Moon-conjunction falls onto my Sun.

And as I mentioned my parents also had a Sun-Moon-aspect synastrically.

"he was touring the country with - (gasp!) a rock band! And - worst of all - he's a Catholic! (She grew up Methodist.)"
AH I LOVE That!

"
Yeah. Those were the times. 1974. 8th of June."
My birth year.

Not to mention the year my parents got married, just a few weeks before yours. 24th may. lol

"This year will mark their 40th wedding anniversary. They're doing something right. "
Yes. here, too. Right now they are planning their honeymoon-revival-trip to Italy

posted March 30, 2014 04:04 PM              

Pluto trine Persephona (his Perspehona is conjunct his Mars 1 degree)

Siva opposite Kaali
Siva sextile Kaali exact

In Composite:

Rudra conjunct Parvati
Siva trine Kaali"

Definitely soulmates.
Very tantric at that, too.

"I don't know what Anubis stands for."
Astral connections.

" In composite Anubis forms a Grand Cross with Saturn, Moon and Jupiter."
If it is close in orb it might be the reason.

though I have found that the pattern with ANUBIS (in composite only, did not detect any synastric pattern) involves ANUBIS on an angle, or in exact-close (1 degree usually) aspect to the nodal axis, Sun or Moon.
And the one aspect that seems to be REALLY frequent is ANUBIS conjunct Neptune. Only saw the conjunction so far. But I am willing to expand on thsi.

posted March 30, 2014 04:11 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Pluto conjunct Proserpina

Pluto trine Persephona (his Perspehona is conjunct his Mars 1 degree)

Siva opposite Kaali
Siva sextile Kaali exact

In Composite:

Rudra conjunct Parvati
Siva trine Kaali"

Definitely soulmates.
Very tantric at that, too.

"I don't know what Anubis stands for."
Astral connections.

" In composite Anubis forms a Grand Cross with Saturn, Moon and Jupiter."
If it is close in orb it might be the reason.

though I have found that the pattern with ANUBIS (in composite only, did not detect any synastric pattern) involves ANUBIS on an angle, or in exact-close (1 degree usually) aspect to the nodal axis, Sun or Moon.
And the one aspect that seems to be REALLY frequent is ANUBIS conjunct Neptune. Only saw the conjunction so far. But I am willing to expand on thsi.

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Thanks, Ceri, you're very generous, I have no doubt you'll find your love

Interesting about Anubis angles and Neptune, I'll check the other charts, Davison, helio, draconic etc.

posted March 30, 2014 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, thank you, I am very grateful, it's already a lot and you said many things I didn't notice or didn't know about, like all that ruler NN/SN analysis. And you checked the sabians too..you rule!

In synastry we have:

Pluto conjunct Proserpina
Pluto semisextile Proserpina

Pluto trine Persephona (his Perspehona is conjunct his Mars 1 degree)

Siva opposite Kaali
Siva sextile Kaali exact

Moon conjunct Isis
Our Osiris are conjunct, Isis Osiris in the same sign (Scorpio)

In Composite:

Rudra conjunct Parvati
Siva trine Kaali

I don't know what Anubis stands for. In our synastry our Anubis are conjunct near his IC/NN. In composite Anubis forms a Grand Cross with Saturn, Moon and Jupiter.

Our synastry is very sexual; it's still on the 116 page.

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posted March 30, 2014 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
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This relationship has been painful in that the feeling of things missed out on, and can never be fulfilled (like having children) seems to come up every so often. We go from joy to pain. I'm not sure how things will end. If feel they can never end.

Thanks for listening.

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posted March 30, 2014 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thanks, page one, I'm glad to hear a confirmation, I think there is truth in this theory.

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This is an interesting theory and I can see the logic behind it. For instance you have a packed composite with a love stellium and that stellium gets hit by transit Uranus conjunction...