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Topic: Twinflame Astrology: Techniques, Investigations, Validity
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted February 01, 2014 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Ceri, Here is an interesting article written by Pamela Crane. She is big on Draco charts, and has a book on it. In this article, She suggests some interesting ways to look at the synastry, one of them being placing the partner's North Node at the beginning of your natal, to see how your purpose in this life time fits into his. http://www.theholytwelve.co.uk/tuition/9-tuition
That is interesting. I actually have the book but do not remember that method. I remember she proposed it for transits though, so it makes sense doing it for synastry as well. So if his NN was 1 Virgo I would treat it as if it was my NN and apply it to my tropical placements and calculate the DRaco as if my NN was 1 Virgo, right?
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 7891 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted February 01, 2014 12:20 PM
Yes. For the tropical, too.EXCHANGE DRACONIC The extension of the Draconic into Current Draconic directions and the Personal Draconic have alreadsy been mentioned; but there is more that can be done. While comparing Tropical and Draconic charts between two people will illumine the compatibility or otherwise of their material and spiritual natures, why not apply Draconic in a way similar to the Q-Chart? Why not do an Exchange? In other words, we set up a Draconic chart for A but using B’s North Node as its starting-point, and vice versa. When I first tried this it seemed a wild idea - but Oh, how clearly peoples’ expectations of each other came into view! The Draconic/ Tropical energies within a nativity show whether we are likely to practise (Tropical) what we preach (Draconic.) Your chart pinned to my N. Node shows how I expect you to think, feel and behave - and if this bears no relation to your InterDimensional radix and threatens your integrity, then I should be on a hiding to nothing except disappointment. However!... having looked at some good test cases, it is also clear that the qualities thrown up in Exchange charts can actually be brought out in the other person, at least in terms of behaviour; expectations can indeed be met. In fact it even looks as though my presence in my partner’s life inevitably steered him in certain directions and significantly characterised our relationship. As he is ‘wysiwyg’ with the Dragon’s Head at the beginning of Aries, he in his turn cannot help but encourage other people to be fully themselves, with no other expectations whatever! We can legitimately expect transits to Exchange charts to bring all such issues into focus. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 6674 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 01, 2014 01:08 PM
Speaking of synchronicity. you guys realize this thread started withmoon @ 11 cap pluto @ 12 cap Venus @13 cap Rx ? All of which are just inside my 12th h and square uranus (particularly significant to me as this contact has manifested with uranus conj and opp my n venus) Was just looking at the transits to our composite the day we met again in 08. Mindblowing including Union on the AC, Pluto on moon and several other dings.,, trying to brihg it up so i can see it again, it was quite the chart that day.. IP: Logged |
summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 01, 2014 01:41 PM
For topical chart, does your composite Atlantis/Sphinx conjunct any of your natal planets?
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posted February 01, 2014 01:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina: Speaking of synchronicity. you guys realize this thread started withmoon @ 11 cap pluto @ 12 cap Venus @13 cap Rx ? All of which are just inside my 12th h and square uranus (particularly significant to me as this contact has manifested with uranus conj and opp my n venus) Was just looking at the transits to our composite the day we met again in 08. Mindblowing including Union on the AC, Pluto on moon and several other dings.,, trying to brihg it up so i can see it again, it was quite the chart that day..
LOL Of course I did NOT know that, but my progressed chart has PROSERPINA on 9 Capricorn and ASC on 10 Capricron with Saturn on 13 Cancer. Mr Sag`s and my composite Sun/MOon-mp is on 9 Capricorn and our Venus is on 16 Cap. IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 02:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina: Speaking of synchronicity. you guys realize this thread started withmoon @ 11 cap pluto @ 12 cap Venus @13 cap Rx ? All of which are just inside my 12th h and square uranus (particularly significant to me as this contact has manifested with uranus conj and opp my n venus) Was just looking at the transits to our composite the day we met again in 08. Mindblowing including Union on the AC, Pluto on moon and several other dings.,, trying to brihg it up so i can see it again, it was quite the chart that day..
Wow! We met in 2008, too. First meeting with talking at least. 22nd may (2 days before my parent`s wedding day. LOL). The first meeting chart had an one degree Moon-Pluto-conjunction on 00 and 01 Capricorn and Juno was on the GC exact. That day there was also a Siva-Mahakaali-conjunction in Gemini (on my own Kaali) and a Siva-Parvati-conjunction (on his pr Parvati).
The transiting Siva-Parvati-conjunction was conjunct our pr composite Kaali and pr composite ASC (the Kaali-ASC-link was precise) Apart from that
TR SN partile conjunct c-Saturn on 21 Leo Tr Chiron partile opposite c-Saturn Tr Neptune opposite c-Saturn widely (Tr Neptune also conjuncted pr c-Venus) Tr Union conjunct c-Juno Tr Atlantis conjunct c-Pluto and c-Atlantis Tr Juno conjunct c-Sun with no orb Tr Jupiter partile conjunct c-Moon the funny thing is that not only was Tr Juno conjunct c-Sun, but also his natal Sun/Moon-mp (which is conj. c-Sun) and tr Jupiter was conjunct c-Moon AND my natal Sun/Moon-mp (which is conj. c-Moon) IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 02:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: For topical chart, does your composite Atlantis/Sphinx conjunct any of your natal planets?
No, not in my case. At least not in tropical. IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 1431 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted February 01, 2014 02:10 PM
What would you say of two Atlantis tightly (1deg) conjuncting each other?IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2014 02:11 PM
And here, it's the 12th page, after my nearly feeling dizzy at the site (what a wonderful link!) called 'theholytwelve', and at 11:11 here, Pacific Standard. I believe it might be time to share why it is that I've found the Atlantean link, which certainly explains prominence of ATLANTIS in our astrology. First of all, I should reiterate that, while raised in an environment that taught metaphysical principles, I adopted the positions and underwent the training of a scientist, becoming a hard-nosed sceptic at age 12. There it is again; 12. It's only through these synchronicities, and bizarre seeming twists of fate that I've come to examine the topic so closely; that I feel so passionately, despite my typical, clinical, dispassionate approach. Why I become so dedicated, so adamant, so ... certain. Even as I know certainty is a privilege of universal forces. And I am not that. But what I am, I can't quite define. I've been called an 'old soul' since I was young. As a teenager, I begun to believe it. Somewhat. Now, in my thirties, I'm determined to bring together those things needed to do what I'm here to do. I'm here to do a lot. Chief among them is to collect those I lost in what we know as the Atlantean fall; subjects, as it were, of my mother's empire. While it was my birthright to succeed her, I was terrified - and tragedy struck before I even had the chance to ascend. All of my life, I've been plagued by a sense of separation, of being apart. I've been searching since I can recall - in dreams, strange epiphanies, and through my art - for answers. And since 2005, with the advent of LACHESIS, and of meeting the man who created it with me, who I now have solid reason to suspect is my Twinflame, it has become my mission to find them. All of them. Everyone. I've been gifted, it would seem, with a unique understanding of fate; of how it moves through and within us all. I can see it connect. It's linkages. It's binding. Now I won't bore you all. I do that, I know. I blather. But that's my purpose. This is why I'm here now, today. And I thank you for attending to this with me. There's so very much to do. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2014 03:23 PM
Here's a very notable repost; I hope you don't mind, Ceri. The 'karmic worksheet'. I thought there are some fantastic, easily reasoned, even more easily achieved, steps here. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001096.html IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2014 03:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selene: What would you say of two Atlantis tightly (1deg) conjuncting each other?
I'd say it's very significant unless they're born very close to each other. It might still be, but it depends if it's configured or not. IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 1431 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted February 01, 2014 03:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: I'd say it's very significant unless they're born very close to each other. It might still be, but it depends if it's configured or not.
Actually no, 6 and a half year difference. That's why caught my attention. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2014 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Wow! We met in 2008, too. First meeting with talking at least. 22nd may (2 days before my parent`s wedding day. LOL).
This is where it gets confusing to me. My parents recall my going to meet him at the airport on 4 July 2008, though I failed to do so. In truth, I can't even recall the days from when we'd last spoken - 1 July to 6 July. There's nothing on my computer, either. I spoke to my friend (one of our fellow writers and 'on the network'), and she agrees with me. Though both of my parents recalled, (and my mother even has it written in her planner), that I had not stayed with her, and we did not go to the airport. It gets stranger. The weather reported for that day is different; in a conversation log with a friend of mine on the same service where I would chat with him, I'd commented on what a storm we were having; very unusual for July, even in Dallas. But according to the actual weather reported, it was sunny, hot - blisteringly so. No rain. No precipitation of any kind in the forecast. And my friend is an amateur meteorologist. She said how strange it was that both I, AND my (also local) friend were commenting on the 'terrible storm'. My mother also remarked on what I was wearing, because she'd thought that it wasn't smart to wear 'those shoes' in the rain. I thought back to which she meant, and dug them out of my closet. There were, indeed, tiny splotches on the leather which were presumably left by rain. Was I forgetful and simply didn't check the weather report before wearing leather shoes? While very uncharacteristic, it's all that makes sense. As my mother also stated that I'd gone to meet him, but he was not there, and I was so dejected by the disappointment, I began to wonder: was it so traumatic that I blocked it? Logical. Unlikely, but possible. So she began recounting all that she knew; the time we left, what we were both wearing, the umbrella my friend had. My friend was stumped, since she DOES own this cute, unique umbrella, and would have brought it in those circumstances. So, she then went to her mother and asked about that day; luckily, the Fourth of July here, in the States, is memorable. Her mother confirmed that the four had a family outing - barbecue and fireworks, which increased the number of witnesses to four: herself, her mother, her father, and her husband. She said, bewildered, 'I was 99.99% certain that we didn't go, but I had to check because this is very strange now.' Very strange, indeed. According to Fate, in his written confession in 2011, a day prior to his birthday, he 'walked the entire airport for three hours, to no avail,' weakly disguising his extreme disappointment and frank heartbrokenness at my 'not bothering to show.' Now, what I recall was not having the necessary information to go. Since he was so adamant about retaining his anonymity until the moment of our meeting face-to-face at the airport during his 1.5 hour layover (more on that in a minute) he wouldn't divulge his phone number, even as I swore (and, bizarrely, would not have tried to confirm his identity; I would not have called; I would have only texted; I was so very strangely respectful of making sure I didn't 'blow his cover', as I knew he'd bolt. I knew I'd lose him; I just knew) I wouldn't destroy his anonymity. Not yet. Still, no dice. He dodged the issue some clever, usual way which became Addison Lane's primary MO. He was so, so good at that. And, so, as the time came, I had no time. (He'd later, on 6 July, when we messaged again) claim the time as 10:55 and 'delayed about ten or fifteen minutes'. Do the math there, heh.) I had no gate. I had mostly nothing. Thing is, he swore he gave it to me, or enough that I'd need. I was certain he had, too. A flight number, a time, a gate. All I had, upon review of the chat log, was a date. 4 July 2008. It seems the day that: • we met (per my mother's claim that, by 2013, we were married) • I didn't go • He didn't go Depending upon who's recollection you state as truth. But 'absolute truth' became very fuzzy to me that day. It rained, and it didn't. I went, and I didn't. He was there - and he wasn't. We met - and we didn't. Here, he recalls 'I wasn't there' and I recall that, too, since I didn't go for lack of information. But he refuses to acknowledge his part, choosing instead to believe I broke his heart - as I begun dating my now-husband exclusively a week later. Since he'd promised that when the time was right, and he was where he needed to be in his life, ready for me, we'd meet. But until then, he'd stay words on a screen. I couldn't allow myself to be that madly in love with, that dedicated to, that swept away by, words on a screen. Even if I secretly knew his identity since a month after we begun writing together. He devised ridiculously improbable explanations to justify his lie. So, did I move on? No. I thought I had. It wasn't until he confessed the truth, and, as usual, I felt the truth in his words, I always knew what he was really saying, if I trusted my intuition; it wasn't until we met a few weeks later, 3 January 2011, embracing as I was leaving as my phone's clock flipped to 11:11. He joked that he'd 'talk to me in about 15 seconds.' It pains me to write that. We were in such constant communication. Even as he hid his identity from me for several years, and I, foolishly, let him, too afraid I'd lose him; despite concerns of friends and family. 'Who does that?' And yet, my mother 'knew' him. She 'knew' it was part of the greater whole. She 'knew' he was an immovable piece of my life. But she also knew it wouldn't be for a very long time. As I write this, I realise I've been thinking of him much more than usual. With all this research. With doing what I HAVE to do, and I HAVE to think of him. That's the hard part. We're out of contact now, pretty much completely, by my doing. I estranged us last March, fed up with his emotional abuse. He never stopped trying, never stopped calling. September, I answered. Was it a new beginning? No. It's too damned hard. He'll call, and I don't answer. He'll even leave clever voicemails. During the estrangement, I became his audio diary. That way he was still communicating with me. He tried, consistently, for 2 years. I've saved them all. (God. Pathetic.) He knows it, too. He just does. He always knows the truth behind my actions, no matter how I hide. Who ran first? Who's to say? I certainly felt 'pushed into my self' in 2012. He reconnected me with all that I'd disowned. I married an atheist scientist. (He's a scientist, too, same profession, but biochemistry whereas my husband studied inorganic; but agnostic.) Even he's floored by our telepathy. We've changed each other's understanding of reality. And I know he's walking his path. And I'm walking mine. But, God, I miss him. Used to be, I'd think of him after a period, and he'd call. But the truth is: I don't want him to. (Gah, tears. I hate tears.) I don't want to keep hurting him - because I don't know how to love him. Oh, he hasn't a clue in hell how to love, but I needed to keep trying. And I couldn't. I'm learning, with my husband, and my lover. I'm learning how to let go of those terrible wounds that made me possessive or jealous. I'm learning how to love freely. You know, a strange thing about Fate. I never once sought to possess him. Which is why it didn't matter to me if we ever married. That's just not what it's ever been about. I would never demand he love only me. I just wanted him TO love me. Well, to show it, and not deny it immediately after. To not be too afraid of losing me to where he couldn't even try. But I've hardly done better. I see that now. I see that how my breath catches when he calls. How I can't answer the bloody phone. How it rings, and rings, and my heart breaks as it does so. How I know I don't want to be this way. I want to be better. But he scares me. I've never been so ... wracked by a person. Elevated by their love for me; their happiness in general. Destroyed - annihilated - by their hatred. By their fear. I won't continue this. It's ... meaningless. I can only hope, maybe, as the song that suddenly came through the static on a Phoenix station on FM radio, just as we were leaving; it'd switched from the CD and satellite function to terrestrial radio. Nobody knows why. A glitch, my husband said. It was a song by Survivor, one I've always loved dearly. 'The Search is Over'. It was nearly through. It just came through with, the bridge to the end: 'Now the miles stretch out behind me with love that I have lost. Broken hearts lie victims of the game. Then good luck, it finally struck like lightning from the blue. Every highway leads me back to you. Now at last I hold you, now all is said and done. The search has come full circle; our destinies have won. So if you ever loved me, show me that you give a damn. We'll know for certain, the man I really am. I was living for a dream, living for the moment. Taking on the world - that was just my style. Then I touched your hand; I could hear you whisper: 'The search is over.' Love was right before my eyes.' There's nothing of that song that doesn't fit, frankly. It just fits more perfectly as we continue onward. Anyway. I remember excusing myself at a rest stop (as we were driving back to LA, my husband, stepdaughter, and I) and just crying so, so hard. I felt so torn, and so broken. I longed for him, but knew I have so much to do here in LA. And, if I could believe the dream he had in '07, of the Hollywood industry party we were both attending - then I'm on the right track. (He told me of it in 2012. I'd moved September 2008.) Where was I? What am I on about? I don't even know. It had a purpose. I don't remember what that was. Oh, yes! How we 'met' in 2008, except, not here. Here, it was 20 March 2010. One month following meeting my Hatter. Two months since I'd gotten engaged. On his birthday. Oh, God, I was so heartless. I feel that way, even if it was never meant. Had he told me ... had he even told me THEN. Had he followed through with the coffee date he'd initiated the next day, and TOLD ME. Oh, what's the use? There's none. My life became firmly on a new course. That's where I am. So. Here ... we're ... waiting, I guess. I'm learning. He's establishing himself. We'll always have LACHESIS. Heh. It's somehow not as funny as it seems. I make light. I stick to the task. I collect people. I research. I grow. I teach. I'm clearing my past, and preparing my future. And we will always have LACHESIS. And we WILL bring it to everyone. A Twinflame story told by two very unusual sorts with a bizarre propensity for making time go funny, and causing small earthquakes and lightning storms. Who communicate telepathically. Who're learning unconditional love. Who have a message. Who hope, through this humble story, others will go, 'that's me!' and they'll find their Twinflames, and consciousness will be raised. And ... we'll have succeeded. All of us. That's what keeps me going. That's why I do this. That's my secret fire. That's my drive, my motivation, my passion. That's why I can't stop. I can't wallow, I can't cry, I can't let my sadness stop me NOW. He's made me so strong. He's made me learn how to love. Face my fears. Become ... me. And he's becoming him. And I can only imagine I've sent him through similar trials. At least his storyteller style confession addressed to some unnamed audience, only addressing me at its conclusion with his heartfelt apology, it began with: 'There were all the others. And then there was her.' Somehow, it told me all I'd needed. I hold that close to my heart, I keep it tucked away in my mind. It soothes me when I lose faith. But then something bizarre tends to happen which renews it. But that. Being 'her' to a man who'd never loved before. A man who refused to. Who claimed this woman miles away was his soulmate. Being HER. That spoke volumes to me. Seems our highly concentrated composite only expresses that intense feeling of bonding. That strange togetherness despite the odds. And so, so many obstacles. This is why I keep on. So. Thanks for listening. IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 05:06 PM
Has anyone noticed the same chart configurations/shapes between the natals of the two in question?I noticed something very interesting: In my own natal I have a grand trine (fire) with mercury, Saturn and neptune. In my progressed natal I have a T-square between mercury combust sun, neptune and apex at Virgo moon. In his natal he has a t-square between jupiter, Uranus and Saturn at the apex. In his progressed natal he has a fire grand trine between Saturn, neptune and venus. He also has a T- square between Saturn, mercury and moon at the apex! So it's like our chart configurations are the same: my natal configuration is his progressed configuration and his natal configuration is my progressed configuration. So as of now, according to our chart configurations we are both showing the same energies in the same elements! IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2014 05:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Has anyone noticed the same chart configurations/shapes between the natals of the two in question?I noticed something very interesting: In my own natal I have a grand trine (fire) with mercury, Saturn and neptune. In my progressed natal I have a T-square between mercury combust sun, neptune and apex at Virgo moon. In his natal he has a t-square between jupiter, Uranus and Saturn at the apex. In his progressed natal he has a fire grand trine between Saturn, neptune and venus. He also has a T- square between Saturn, mercury and moon at the apex! So it's like our chart configurations are the same: my natal configuration is his progressed configuration and his natal configuration is my progressed configuration. So as of now, according to our chart configurations we are both showing the same energies in the same elements!
Absolutely. That's one of the first things which struck me. Not to mention, his sidereal is practically my tropical. Now that I've got you, tgem, I wanted to know if you saw my post addressed to you? Regarding how you gained confirmation. You've said that 'bona fide' Twinflames have confirmed your being a graduate soul, and thus, a Twinflame. I'm very intrigued by that, as I've never known such a thing was possible? Please do share. I'm attempting to learn all I can. IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 05:22 PM
@Ceri- your story was beautiful. I connect with it so much. No matter what people have told me (I'm crazy, obsessed, blah blah ...whatever this is that has awakened me to be my authentic self and so much stronger than I used to be is what keeps me investigating. I still see the synchronicities, the clues etc. etc. and I seem to find more all the time. My thirst for knowledge (mercury opposite Pluto, very scientific mind like Indigo) keeps me pressing forward...as I know my purpose is to feel/give unconditional love. I am literally not the same person I was even 3 years ago. I have undergone a complete transformation...whether this guy proves to be my TF or not. IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 05:26 PM
Indigo,
BTW that summer something weird happened. I was in this small village, at the castle or the open air musical, where he was performing; that village, that castle holds a strange spell about me, something quite magical about it, at least for me. Pretty sure I have been there before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWi0NzV0Ea8 Anyway, that night (25th july 2008) I was watching that open air musical and met a young woman there and we have been chattin for a few hours, including the time where we were sort of sneaking around the castle and then standing in front of my hotel. I never saw her again after that, but it was sort of interestng, as she gave me her perspective on a few things I didn´t really think about. To this day I am not entirely sure she was completely "real". Of course she was, she was standing physically beside me, but I can remember 2 other times where I was talking to two people who just sort of vanished. But the funny thing is, my parents later told me that since they were on holiday nearby they thought about paying me a visit and pick me up after the musical, but they were there, saw the audience leaving the castle (well it was just ruins of the old castle actually), heard some of the music, but never saw me there and so left again.
The weird thing is that I WAS there. I was actually at the very spot and location they described they had been looking. I remember I was there (though the whole night had a bit of a surreal feeling to it anyway), and yet we never saw each other. Makes me sometimes wonder: where was I - really? Had I somehow slipped between dimensions, without really noticing? Sounds nunsensical Iknow, at least while being embodied and awake, but it was a bit strange definitely. BTW after that performance I sort of "ran" away. If we are twinflames, then it absolutely is me who is the runner. LOL Seriously though, I wanted to wipe this meeting, that strangeness, that electricity, my possible embarassment and sillinss just off the board, turn back the clock to how it was before, and most of all never ever see him again. It was 2 years later, 2010, 27th july that I found myself at his solo concert. And from then on the weirdness was accompanying every encounter or almost-encounter, but I have the feeling it is getting worse as time passes. lol IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 05:36 PM
Oh sorry Indigo...get lost in all these posts LOL. Ok well it actually wasn't IQ who told me I was a twinflame, Mel did. Through the story I told him, and he reading my energies he said I was definitely a TF. It was IQ who interpreted my karma sabian symbol as being very lucky/fortunate in that I will see the synchronicities in life that will eventually manifest into the meeting of my TF. IQ has worked on a couple of charts for me. Although I believe these two sources to be pretty knowledgable about the TF concept, as I had mentioned earlier, so much of my researching articles, having interviews, chart analysis and personal experience (spiritual awakening, having the dark night of the soul, synchronicities, increased psychic awareness etc.) has ALL led me to fully believe this. Not just one idea or person. This has all been concluded by extensive research over a period of time. Plus, I do believe that since Mel and Nicole work with true TF couples (allegedly), I feel they would be pretty quick on knowing the signs/symptoms...although, like I said, I don't know that I believe 100% what they believe. Anyway, that's my story... IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 05:42 PM
Also, do any of you have any of the other fixed stars prominent in your chart: regulus, aldebaran, Rigel, spica, fomalhaut etc.?IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 05:50 PM
Hey Ceri, you and me are pretty similar then because I was the runner in our situation! Go figure....isn't it usually the men??!!! Hmmmm..I think I have officially connected with my male energies LOLHey I just noticed this is my 777th post!!! Another synchronicity 😇LOL IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2014 05:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Has anyone noticed the same chart configurations/shapes between the natals of the two in question?I noticed something very interesting: In my own natal I have a grand trine (fire) with mercury, Saturn and neptune. In my progressed natal I have a T-square between mercury combust sun, neptune and apex at Virgo moon. In his natal he has a t-square between jupiter, Uranus and Saturn at the apex. In his progressed natal he has a fire grand trine between Saturn, neptune and venus. He also has a T- square between Saturn, mercury and moon at the apex! So it's like our chart configurations are the same: my natal configuration is his progressed configuration and his natal configuration is my progressed configuration. So as of now, according to our chart configurations we are both showing the same energies in the same elements!
Funny thin. I am big on 12th harmonic charts. I don´t know hy, they just feel "right", even though that actually only means covering all the zodiacal aspects.
Anyway. We both have a link up of Moon-Saturn-Juno in our 12th harmonic charts, he also has Sun-Saturn-Juno, though different aspects. My Moon quinkunx Saturn (0) my Moon semisextile Juno (0) My Saturnt rine Juno (0) his Moon and Sun square Saturn (1 and 0) his Moon and Sun quinkunx Juno (1) his Saturn sextile Juno (1) Of course this means we have a Moon-Saturn-Juno link up in the composite as well: Mystical triangle (basis is the exact Moon-Juno-trine).
Now, it gets a little creepy
The exactest closed configuration of our first meeting chart: Moon conj. Pluto Moon-Pluto quinkunx Sun (Sun conj. SAppho and Priapus) Moon-Pluto trine Saturn Sun square Saturn OUr last encounter in november (though orbs are a bit wide for Moon)
Moon opposite Juno Moon square Saturn Juno square Saturn (actually it was much nicer than that sounds lol) On that day our composite also had its first Venus-Return, since after that it went retro, I checked when it would have the new Venus return.
This will take place on 12th february. A date which is very close to my heart. Also, significant dates seem to resonate with the 3-6-9 sequence with him. (maybe cause my lifepath is 33 and his is 3) But get this at the exact moment our composite will have its Venus-Return Saturn conjunct DESC Saturn square Sun in Aquarius Saturn trine Moon in Cancer Moon quinkunx Sun Not only the same planets are aligned as in the first meeting chart, but also in the same aspect relation AND Sun will be in an Air sign like in 2008, and now Moon will be in Cancer, when back then it was in Capricorn. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2014 06:35 PM
No worries at all, tgem. We all tend to be bouncing off of each other rather easily, and being mistaken for Ceri is a tremendous compliment. 😉Now to the nitty-gritty. I'd love to hear your story (unless you already shared it here, and I've somehow missed it; I'm slogging back through everything carefully now) especially, as it's Mel with whom I also corresponded. After hearing some of their podcast, I noticed too many details like LACHESIS, and I thought that was hardly coincidence. I needed to find out why my story was, indeed, the grand graduate plan. I'm pretty sure I know why, (as was he) but ... some days, it's too damned much to accept. And I get so lonely. I miss the way he'd make everything click. I could be struggling through a concept for days (regarding the story) and he'd resolve it in minutes. Maybe seconds. Every. Time. So I do have to ask myself. Why do I choose the struggle? I suppose the time to reconnect was when it was, (2012) and I put it into motion, as a result. It all fell into place. But we tried for too much. In the end, we both knew it wasn't time to try having a relationship. But neither wanted to accept it. So, we do what we do best: shove down our emotions and heap on the denial. At least we function. Thing is, I was skipping a big step with a major soulmate. That probably became wrapped up into a story in my early twenties, so that when I figured it out, I'd be able to apply the same logic and method to LACHESIS, which I have, and that's where we are. But as this one 'came first', so must it be done first. I also don't want to launch something as crucial as LACHESIS to a world that's not listening, or even in a way in which it's lost in the noise of other fantasy shows. This is a transmission. It can't be lost. So, I'm cautious. I've kept the original group intact, but returned to my prior project. Now there's nothing to bind us together, but admitting the personal relationship that always existed, and that's not easy to cop to. I also suspect that so many of the stories I learn from the others will become the basis of characters and storylines. I have several, from the original writers; but there are more. There are even two like Mel and Nichole; that's what drew me to them, honestly. It's been a very crazy handful of years. So much transformation. So much ... acceptance. So, when the time is right, I'll know. Meanwhile, I'm making a name for myself, and he's gaining independence. The day will come to launch. I'll have what I need. I'll be ready. Okay. Enough about me! But thank you for listening. Evidently I needed to do some venting. Tell me your story, tgem. And, Ceri, remind me: but the way you describe your odd connexion with Mr Sag is bizarrely like I feel with my Hatter. So I suspect, as it's been suggested, he's a definite conduit or your own. I giggle at all the late Sag energy. 😉 It makes me smile. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2014 06:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Also, do any of you have any of the other fixed stars prominent in your chart: regulus, aldebaran, Rigel, spica, fomalhaut etc.?
According to Robson (who gets rather wide to me), I have: SPICA conjunct SUN (3°) PLUTO (1.5°) and BML (1.5°) MC conjunct ALDEBARAN (0°) PSYCHE conjunct RIGEL (3°)* * I get very 'meh' about things like skyrocks on Fixed Stars unless it's exact. So, I threw it up there for the hell of it. Nothing on FOMALHAUT, from what I can see; REGULUS, either. Interestingly, a few things about REGULUS, though. My mother's SUN and MOON hit it within 1°. Her ASC is 6° from it, which is, again, wide. But - holy Regulus, Batman! The composite with the soulmate I'd mentioned, who's proving so crucial to my development; our SUN-VENUS-SAPPHO are there, right at the top of the chart. SUN is exactly on REGULUS; SAPPHO is 1°, and VENUS 2°. IP: Logged |
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