posted April 04, 2014 06:00 PM            

(grandpa first - i will try to mention only really tight aspects, except for the ones that i thought were important even with wider orbs)

Sun opposite Sun (wide, 5d)
Sun square Pluto 1
Sun sextile KARMA 0

Moon conjunct KARMA 0

Mercury opposite Sun 1
Mercury trine Ceres 0

Venus square Neptune 0
Venus sextile Juno 0
Venus trine VALENTINE 1
Venus conjunct LUST 1

Mars quincunx Venus 1
Mars opposite Uranus 3
Mars square Saturn 3

Jupiter conjunct Saturn 2
Jupiter trine Chiron 1
Jupiter conjunct DSC 1

Saturn opposite Venus 3
Saturn opposite Chiron 0
Saturn conjunct UNION 0

Uranus conjunct Mars 0
Uranus conjunct Angel 1

Neptune trine Sun 0
Neptune quintile Moon 0

Pluto opposite Saturn 2
Pluto conjunct ASC 1

NN opposite Juno 1
NN conjunct Vesta 1
NN square NN

Chiron conjunct Sun 2

Vertex square NN 0 (?)
Vertex opposite Juno 1
Vertex conjunct Vesta 1

Lilith square NN 0
Lilith conjunct Vesta 0

Ceres square Venus 0

Juno opposite Jupiter 2

KARMA trine Sun 0

EROS trine Venus 0
EROS trine Saturn 1
EROS opposite EROS 0

PSYCHE conjunct Jupiter 0
PSYCHE square EROS 3

AMOR conjunct NN 0 So sweet

VALENTINE opposite DNA 0

UNION trine ANGEL 0
UNION conjunct DNA 0

ANGEL opposite Saturn 0
ANGEL conjunct ASC 1

ASC opposite Jupiter 0

IC conjunct Sun 0

posted April 04, 2014 06:08 PM            

Sun quincunx Venus 0
Sun conjunct Pluto 4
Sun conjunct Vesta 2

Moon opposite Jupiter 2
Moon quintile Pluto 0
Moon conjunct Vertex 1
Moon opposite ASC 1

Venus opposite KARMA 0

Mars square Jupiter 1
Mars square Uranus 1
Mars square ASC 1
Mars conjunct MC 2

Jupiter conjunct Uranus 2
Jupiter conjunct ASC 0

Saturn conjunct Eros 2 (note that this the only aspect Saturn makes in their composite, yet they were happily married for more than 50 years!)

Uranus conjunct ASC 3

Neptune (Chart ruler) conjunct Atlantis 2

Pluto conjunct Ceres 0
Pluto conjunct Vesta 2

Chiron conjunct Lilith 0

Vertex conjunct DSC 0

Ceres conjunct Vesta 2

posted April 04, 2014 06:11 PM            

ASC - Jupiter, Uranus
MC - Mars
DSC - Moon, Vertex

On top of that ASC squares MC almost exactly.

posted April 04, 2014 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
There might be something to Magion. It is conjunct and parallel my karma, conjunct my SN and quincunx my IC. I have mentioned before that my Atlantis is trine my karma and parallel my DSC.

Ceri my Magion is on 7 Aries!!

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Well I just checked and just like me Magion is conjunct karma in Cusp's natal as well! Interesting!

posted April 05, 2014 12:25 AM            

We have that Sun conj. Vesta on Sirius in the gt-composite.

posted April 05, 2014 01:49 PM              

I am sorry to hear that.
What is wrong?

posted April 05, 2014 02:27 PM            

It's kind of funny, I woke up this morning just not feeling right at all, very groggy, headache etc. Guess my soul was trying to prepare me- got the info. a few hours later.

posted April 05, 2014 03:12 PM              

I am really sorry to hear that
We are here for you.

I really hope you didn't have to feel so much pain... But I guess its necessary for you,... sorry if these may not be the most comforting of words.
But I know you will get through this.

posted April 05, 2014 04:49 PM              

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" So... So what's the answer? That's what I keep asking myself. What's it all about? You know what I mean?"

posted April 05, 2014 05:30 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What is Kombin? Davison?

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posted April 05, 2014 06:17 PM              

But you don't want a verdict, do you?

Just for us to see how "twins" you are, you and Jude, and get jealous?

posted April 05, 2014 06:50 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

But you don't want a verdict, do you?

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Actually yes, I want a verdict.

But more than that I want to know what this is all about. Why doesn´t he stop haunting my dreams?
I must be pretty depressed becuase I was dreaming of him a few times last week, not that I remember much, not that it was important, just as much that I got aware of it.

I mean, if it is my subconsciousness or Higher Self, initiating the dreams to tell me something, I am too dumb to get the message.
Why? To what point and purpose?
I don`t even really like him.

And very honestly, I would prefer Mr Sag definitely. I would prefer a clear heartpounding exciting soothing carefree happy experience infinitely to that murky foggy heavy *something* whatever that is.

posted April 05, 2014 06:53 PM              

My GUINEVERE: 10°17 Capricorn

Mr Sag?s ARTHUR: 11°41 Capricorn

posted April 05, 2014 07:01 PM            

I just feel like everything I have studied, felt, read, heard, listened to has just all been negated....that he is selfish, I didn't fit into his worldly earthbound ambitions and that I deserve so much better because of the deep love I'm capable of giving...but that was too deep for him to address so he hurt me deliberately so he didn't have to deal with my emotions and deal with how significantly he affected me. I was told God is protecting me because I deserve much better and that is why we are not together. I feel embarrassed and ashamed that I let Cusp affect me the way he did, only to end in such utter pain and heartache...not to mention my reputation being completely drug through the MUDD as the town believes I engaged in an affair.

I just feel like everyone has this horrible image/impression of me...like this whole thing is all my fault and I'm being punished by everyone. I really don't know what to think anymore...I feel so lost...my future just looks so .....hazy....foggy..like I can't see it anymore. And all this hope that I have received over the last two years during this difficult time in my life has just been flushed down the toilet. I wish this damned heart chakra was never opened in the 1st place....way way too painful.

posted April 05, 2014 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
Also, does it count in the mirroring (?) pattern in charts, if we have in our natals:

My Moon in 11H, his Sun in 11H
My Mars in 10H, his Venus in 10H
My Saturn in 5H, his Saturn in 5H, etc.

Also similar aspects with planets. For example, we both have (with tighter or wider orbs, but still) Sun trine Mars, Moon square Pluto, Moon sextile Mars, Venus sextile Jupiter, Venus square Uranus, Sun square Neptune, etc.

It gives some kind of resonating energy between us. I mean, we're both opposites - I'm Libra, he's Aries. Our Suns are in an exact quindecile to each other, so are our Moons and Marses respectively. But these similar positions and aspects gives that vibe that we simply get each other, can understand where the other is coming from and with what we're dealing. I guess.

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Rather than mirroring, that's what we call affinity. It's debatable whether it's mirroring or affinity when, say, you have VENUS in ARIES, and he has MARS in the 1H.

posted April 05, 2014 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, if that is so, then I am probably be damned.

KARMA squares Juno exactly, with Dr Valentine conjunct Juno, too.
On the other hand Saturn is trine Juno exactly and that is the tightest aspect in my whole chart.

Well that is what you get if you have KARMA on 16 Gemini and Saturn on 16.57 Cancer, thus semisextile.

Nothing to Mars or Venus though.

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Ha! Really, now? Clearly then a 4º sextile is bunk.

(4º SCO / 8º VIR)

Semisextile to JUNO, though. Hm. Dunno there. Better luck with DESTINN. It's sextile VENUS 2º.

He's got KARMA square MARS 2º.

posted April 06, 2014 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
"For example, I've had visions, dreams and flash like recollections of my own (which I reluctantly identified in the end as being possible previous lives recollections) with a "mysterious man". And gradually, a story emerges. Mine is dramatic too, it involves betrayal, separation, death, suicide, two lovers with irreconcilable social backgrounds, some sort of Romeo/Juliet, Tristan/Isolde fairy tale. But it is different from yours Or...who knows? Maybe if we were to compare the images in our brains... "

I think this Romeo/Juliet and Tristan/Isolda theme seems to be prominent as well in all our TF connections. Yes, Cusp and I have a Tristan/Isolda aspect in our charts, but I vividly remember IQ talking about betrayal, past lovers, etc. when he first analyzed our charts. Ironically the betrayal played out in this lifetime's relationship as well, but I won't get into the details of it. But again...that brings me back to the central idea of TF's having to forgive each other...show unconditional love in order to re-unite and clear the past karma so that there may be a successful reunion. For me personally, I believe our past karma has now been cleared...now it's just a matter of him getting his act together...

But again...definitely that theme in our relationship dynamic as well.

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I don't quite think so.

I finally had the chance to read through your story, tgem. I definitely have some strong feelings about it, though the 'I' part is sketchy. There are strong feelings about it.

I don't feel the karma is cleared, and the big 'STOP' keeps flashing in my head.

There's something you're missing. I'm not sure what it is.

Why is your family so against your having a relationship with him? Especially if they were in agreement regarding the ending of your marriage?

What of his 'act' does he need to get together?

posted April 06, 2014 02:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
And very honestly, I would prefer Mr Sag definitely. I would prefer a clear heartpounding exciting soothing carefree happy experience infinitely to that murky foggy heavy *something* whatever that is.

So if this is so, why can`t he the **** stay out of my dreams?

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I think THAT's why.

I can't tell you how many rounds I went (astrology aside) regarding Fate and everything else. I'd let everything else win. Every time. But before long (typically, a matter of hours) something would come along and slap me synchronicitously until I gave in - and refused to give up.

He himself would concoct things to force me to confront my feelings. Or the Universe would.

I think it's hilarious that in my first novel, she only realises how she can't let him go when he deliberately fakes his departure, stating how it's clear she's never going to really try. For whatever reason, they hold her back, and she can't bring herself to acknowledging her own feelings.

It's only when her options have been removed, and she MUST act, she realises her true feelings - and acts accordingly.

You and I may be quite similar there.

Jude may continue to appear to you as a 'foil', being no doubt a very high-level soulmate who's busy doing other things this life.

posted April 06, 2014 02:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
you know what is ironic?

My GUINEVERE: 10°17 Capricorn

Mr Sag?s ARTHUR: 11°41 Capricorn

Jude`s LANCELOT: 10°32 Cancer

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