posted April 24, 2014 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I was tapping my lip in pensive thought as I tend to get when I'm 'channelling' one of my soul-sisters (Blind Writer). She's the one more connected to the aethereal side of things, with that MOON-ATLANTIS (on my SUN 2°).

You returned there for a purpose, and much of it had to do with clearing karma in regards to the life in which you were not only a General, but also Infantry. You've lived several lives in THAT battle. Likely switching sides. Unfortunately, that's all I know.

I believe that you and Cusp were connected in those lives - some of them, at least. One of you refused the orders of the other. It left a heavy, heavy karma. I believe, in that one, you were men. It ... MIGHT even be how you and I became connected here on Earth. Not sure yet.

Either way, that came through VERY strongly. I half-wonder, if there were Civil War battles, if your UNION-SUN conjunctions don't have a double meaning.

Just some quick thoughts.

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Whoah...that's heavy. Ya know it's interesting you say this. IQ once told me after looking at me and Cusp's synastry, that we had very likely been political rivals in past lives. He hurt me AND I hurt him. Do you think we were BOTH generals and in one of the most famous Battles of US history??!! Or maybe THE generals if you know what I mean? I never mentioned where I live did I? Any guesses LOL??!!!

posted April 24, 2014 07:34 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Indigo..what's your email again? I've GOT to share some information with you I just discovered!

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posted April 25, 2014 09:35 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Also, careful with KASSANDRA. As we know from the myth, that doesn't necessarily mean anyone actually hears you. Unfortunately.

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posted April 25, 2014 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Looking forward to getting my hands on this film!!

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I just watched it. I liked it. It reminded me of the Lake House with Sandra Bullock.

posted April 25, 2014 11:18 AM            

It was so lovely so pure. It would of looked funny from a distance lol

I wonder about Karma. I don't like it. I can't be held responsible for something i don't remember with my Twin. I JUST don't know why i would cheat or do something other then want to be with her.

posted April 25, 2014 11:55 AM              

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Originally posted by superman13:
So i was starring at HER photo and then all of a sudden she hugged me and then i hugged her.

It was so lovely so pure. It would of looked funny from a distance lol

I wonder about Karma. I don't like it. I can't be held responsible for something i don't remember with my Twin. I JUST don't know why i would cheat or do something other then want to be with her.

I don't get my mindset if i have had reincarnations why i wouldn't want to be with her, or why i wouldn't go look for her. I have always been looking for her. Nothing else really matters to me other then her why would i want something else? lol you CRAZY!

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posted April 25, 2014 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
so true. I have her EXACTLY conjunct my DNA (no orb), opposing my Chiron exact, squaring my Vertex, conjunct MUSA and SAPPHO, sometimes I don^t even hear her myself. lol

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Which I just noticed is on my SUN, 1º. I swear, Ceri, my rational mind is always going, 'but how do you KNOW that what she's saying is so?' I guess the soul is stronger, because the same response, every time, is, 'IT JUST IS.'

20º LIB is my SUN/PLUTO-BML MP, BTW.

So, interestingly, I went back to see where mine is.

11º CAP opposite TISIPHONE (11º CAN) conjunct LACHESIS (9º CAN).

... Yeah. THAT seems karmic.

Fate's, even more curiously, is 12º CAP. I did some research and found that this is definitely significant. Further, most of my soul-family around me (locally, or locally enough) has KASSANDRA in SAG or CAP. My parents, three of my soul-siblings, the kiddo, and my costar / Guardian. THAT's gotta mean something. (His, incidentally, is 27º CAP, 3º off of my VX, and 4º from ALICE-AMOR.)

I finally looked at DNA, too.

It's exactly conjunct Fate's PSYCHE-MARS-ANUBIS (26º AQU), and 8º from his own, which is 04º PIS.

I don't have DNA anywhere close with anyone else. Even my soul-sister (Blind Writer) has hers at 7º PIS, which is 3º off his. Further indicating, I think, both their soul-relationship, and lives in which they've been actual siblings (along with Justine - hers is 15º AQU, by the way.)

posted April 25, 2014 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Welcome back Ceri
I hope you enjoyed your holidays!

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posted April 25, 2014 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by superman13:
I just watched it. I liked it. It reminded me of the Lake House with Sandra Bullock.

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/ begin pedantic rant

... Actually, Whedon intentionally used the 'you're in the future!' joke to subvert that trope. Which I thought was quite brilliant.

But, yes, this is how Joss does romcom. I was amused.

Did you know he began writing the screenplay in the '90s? The reason he released it now was because it'd been sitting in his sock drawer long enough. It also gave him the opportunity to check the viability of a straight-to-digital-audience release medium. That's why WHEN it was shown at Tribeca, it was ALSO released via Vimeo. I'm now looking at Vimeo as a distribution medium. (Thanks, Joss!)

posted April 25, 2014 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Read this.
http://twinflames.ca/2013/09/twin-flames-and-karma/

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Whew, buddy. Don't get 'her' started on Mel and karma. All I can say is that is a VERY old argument that hasn't lost any steam, I see.

posted April 25, 2014 02:41 PM            

Too late.

(As, in my head, I gesture myself out of the way to make room for the haughty, more confident, and completely unavoidable side of 'me'.)

This tired old thing again? Do you recall how an individual of your timeline made famous for introducing sexuality as the root of all things, renounced such things on his death bed? She's quite familiar, having studied psychology for more years than even she knows.

(Really?)

Don't interrupt.

( ... I'll go back to quietly sipping my coffee now.)

[There's no response.]

As I was saying, the entity or 'individual' now known as 'Mel' is in a similar situation. His theory didn't work then, and it doesn't fly now. Allow me to explicate. She likes that word - explicate. But then I do, too.

He and I had a great deal of power, but equal means. She's correct in her stating that it's akin to your American politicians 'across the aisle'. We simply didn't agree. We still don't - on many things. Fortunately, the gist of it seems to be correct, and so I'm grateful he's here. ... If a bit annoyed. At times. Only at times. He contributes far more than that from which he detracts.

(She's 'smirking'.)

You're welcome.

Now then.

Karma. Karma confuses you because you still insist upon viewing it as a single, chronological lines. (Though, not you ... your name isn't really Ceridwen, but that's close. I don't have it yet. But I KNOW you. I bow to YOU. Your wisdom. She is wise to heed it.

( ... Uh, thanks? ... I'm being asked to 'not interrupt'. Again.)

She - this 'Ceridwen' - understands the true nature of time, even if she cannot articulate it. That's all right. She knows. That's enough.

You must understand, that to understand, KARMA, you must GET RID of your previous notions of TIME!

YOU are living, right now, somewhere else. Many, many elsewheres, in what you think of as the past, present, and future. Whether it's Ancient Sumeria or 1971 in Los Angeles, California or 1862 in Barbados - she's interrupting again; yes, you have karma in Los Angeles.

(I knew it.)

That's why she met him here.

(I'm - she's - getting something.)

Tgem, you will meet HIM somewhere else.

( ... Wow. Vague much?)

I don't like referring to you as 'tgem'. It's a falsehood.

(Ouch. Sorry.)

You need to stop hiding. You tell others to cease hiding, but you yourself hide. Stop being a hypocrite. You're better than that.

( ... I'm really sorry for this.)

He's on a different path. Let him be. Let him go. It's not your time. Likely not here, and not even this lifetime. Let him go and be yourself. You have MUCH more to give. MUCH more to do. But you must QUIT. HIDING.

( ... I think she's done.)

I am done.

(Thank God.)

No, you're not schizophrenic.

(Yeah. If you say so.)

You remember Jane Roberts. Who do I sound like?

(You're not him.)

No, I'm not. But we are very similar. I'm going to continue, as this is a terrible waste of what you measure as 'time'.

(Ouch.)

The more lives you live in elsewheres the more confusing it becomes for the higher mind, or soul - whichever term you choose to use. She's insisted upon several as there's a lot of KARMA for her to settle.

(I DO sense that.)

You would not be incorrect. And you will be erasing all of this once we're through.

(I will?)

Others will not understand. The message will be received, and then it must be removed.

( ... If you say so.)

I do. It's for your own good.

( ... Gotcha.)

They - you, the ones who are being addressed at the moment - you must understand this notion of that which you refer to as Twin Flames - here, we refer to as Twice Soul, for they were born onto the Earth, twice, within the same moment of time upon the same frequency, carrying what you consider the same 'vibration' -

(I always wondered about that.)

Now you know. The Twice Soul - or 'Twin Flame' - can most certainly have karma because no design is ultimate perfection. Apologies that you may think it so. You give the Universe far too much credit. Nothing is infallible, and it isn't 'easy' being pulled in so many directions, satisfying hundreds of billions of trillions of intentions across this planet, this dimension, and more others than you could begin to process.

This leaves room for error. 'Human error', you may call it, but also 'design flaws'.

(Like a glitch in the Matrix.)

... Somewhat so, yes. Something very, very bad happened, and I can't tell you what - it's Against The Rules.

(Nice cop-out there.)

Believe what you will. You are all suffering the reverberations of that cataclysmic event, and each of you - each Oversoul - remembers it differently, because it was a different EXPERIENCE. What happens when you slice a knife through an accordion and expand it? Yes, the slice took place ONCE - but its damage - its effects - are MANY.

( ... That makes a lot of sense.)

It should. It's what you've been trying to understand since you were very, very young. These Souls were not ripped apart due to punishment. 'Time' - as you know it - is running short. Damage control is being done, and many here are at the front-line. That's why she found you. She knows this. That's why she stays.

(I'd like to think I'm simply becoming a more dedicated, focussed person.)

No, you know it's important. You ONLY dedicate your time to what's of great importance. That is your 'failing'.

(You've put it in quotes.)

Humanity is too myopic to understand the time constraints of multidimensional beings. But those of you who are here now for a great purpose - you know. You can feel it, somewhere deep within, that you're running out of time.

And you are.

Those of you who have been gifted with the tool of astrology (yes, it is a gift you have been given in order to better understand your place and your purpose - as are certain connexions you've been afforded; cherish them for the insight they bring - however wonderful, however painful) there are certain things you can and must do.

Your most outstanding 'karma' will be present in your natal charts. This includes the 'twin flames'. You may be the 'cleaning crew' - to use one of his favourite analogies, (oh, yes, he's had that one awhile) -

BUT YOU ARE NOT EXEMPT.

(Wow. All caps.)

It's VERY important they understand this. See it this way. You went through a sort of 'cosmic application process', if you will. You offred to return to Earth in this time of human need in order to settle outstanding debts!

When you matriculate in a traditional collegiate system, you don't study ALL things. No, you select a major. Your focus is then LIMITED to THAT area of study, and you graduate upon completion of THAT area of study. You have not mastered the university's curriculum in its entirety.

(Hang on, that's why we return. Over and over and over.)

Correct. And if you had completed EVERYTHING, and there was NOTHING outstanding - you wouldn't have even heard 'the call' so to speak. You'd've been far too busy elsewhere. As such, you are all (here) fairly new graduates of your individual programmes. Some very much attuned to the Earth, others from distant stars. But you're NEEDED - NOW, and to fulfill a mutual benefit contract, if you will.

(What if karma - )

Let me explain.

( ... I guess that means I'm right.)

You are. Some of you are here due to the ties you have to others who are here. Think of the opportunity being awarded to one who is indebted to a system in which they have little control.

( ... like the Borg?)

Like the American military.

(Oh. So, same thing.)

... Please refrain from airing your issues with militaristic systems on the public forum.

(Okay.)

There is a time and a place. But it is true that this is YOUR karma. The FBI, after all, is a system.

(And I didn't accept the offre because I refused to be beholden to a system that would shuttle me hither and yon without my say.)

And your Guardian at this time is one who has also been so shuttled.

(Ahhhhh.)

That's karma. One of the forms with which you're dealing. The cosmic system, if it should so be called, is similar. Its Oneness is a concept mostly foreign to human individuality. As 'twin flames', you have two tracks: be born, grow into individuals, connect. Everyone's 'timeline' is different. Something with which the 'Mel' individual and I DO agree, wholeheartedly, is that no one has any patience here! It's infuriating!

You have been part of a greater whole for longer than you realise. NOW is your one chance to be individuals. Why do you insist upon squandering it to find the greater whole again? Everything in its time!

(Wow. Struck a nerve.)

Yes. Value your humanity. Explore your karma, settle your debts. Learn. Grow. Stop being afraid. Let go of this notion that you 'MUST' anything - outside of those two things.

Growing as an individual and resolving your outstanding karma WILL connect you to the greater whole.

Telling someone they have no karma with their 'Twin Flame' is akin to giving one access to a vehicle with no engine! Useless.

She's being bombarded by clients.

(I am.)

We'll table this for now.

(Thanks. Sorry!)

We all have to make a living here. Well, you do.

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And I think that's it. For now, at least.

I've become better at discerning what's 'coming through' and what are my own thoughts. The two blend with astonishing frequency, though, and it can be tricky to appropriately separate out.

Anyhow, there you have it. 'Her' thoughts on the whole 'Twin Flames and karma'. For what it's worth.

posted April 25, 2014 03:07 PM            

We don't actually achieve the relationship with our Twin as we desire until we relinquish that relationship and accept ourselves as complete, whole individuals as we are.

I think I'll always long for him. (All right; I know I will.) But I've also accepted I can have a happy, fulfilling life without the relationship I long for. Because I'M in charge of my own destiny, and I choose to help others and creatively resolve my karma (literally).

Yesterday, I did a meditation in which I genuinely wished him the best on his journey, and 'liberated' him from me or mine. If he's too afraid, or unable, that's HIS choice. And I'm not going to bind him to something he doesn't want.

Plenty of others DO want what I want right now. I feel that he and I are on an eventual course to reconnect in some better fashion in the future, where he's done some necessary growing, (and me as well!) and can better understand that which I'm becoming. As I'm not a human being, but a human becoming.

posted April 25, 2014 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by superman13:
So i was starring at HER photo and then all of a sudden she hugged me and then i hugged her.

It was so lovely so pure. It would of looked funny from a distance lol

I wonder about Karma. I don't like it. I can't be held responsible for something i don't remember with my Twin. I JUST don't know why i would cheat or do something other then want to be with her.

I don't get my mindset if i have had reincarnations why i wouldn't want to be with her, or why i wouldn't go look for her. I have always been looking for her. Nothing else really matters to me other then her why would i want something else? lol you CRAZY!

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That may be part of your problem.

Have you tried for a relationship? Did she refuse? The reasons don't matter. If she refused, let her go. Accept that it may simply be wasted energy and effort at this time, and move forward. Hanging on to the past ... well ... you know what they say.

posted April 25, 2014 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Oh, wow, Indigo, I know that I am just a lurker here, but... wow! Thank you

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Thanks, maira. I greatly value your input, too, I've got to say. Accepting myself as a medial / 'mediumistic' individual has been a tricky journey. I think part of the Cardinal Cross hitting my (I now realise) KASSANDRA, (CAP) and LACHESIS, (CAN) with my SUN/SATURN (LIB) has encouraged me to toss aside my previous fears of what that might mean. Quite a bit's happened since then. So, I've either completely now lost my marbles, or I'm finally 'getting it'. I choose to believe the latter over the former.

I just read my post. Wow. According to my husband, I was furiously typing and pretty unresponsive. So I guess that's how it is for me. Happened at 11:11 here, too. Wow. If that's not a nice little check on the box.

It does feel useful to me. A lot of that jives.

posted April 25, 2014 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Read this.
http://twinflames.ca/2013/09/twin-flames-and-karma/

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Mel and Nicole REALLY need an editor.

I think I'll offer.

I think a lot of their good ideas are being completely lost in grammatical errors, run-on sentences, and poor composition.

If I may, I think Mel's trying to put this across (though, really, it's very confusing):

Karma, as an ancient system of belief, cannot be a valid concept due to the mass awakenings of the heart chakra across the population. This would have cleared or otherwise healed karma.

... No.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of karma, as it exists in Hindu practise. I'm afraid Mel is unfamiliar with Eastern religion, and thus trying to grasp what he's able as best he can.

Karma and heart chakra activation are apples and oranges. Karma is nothing more than the compendium or repository of previous incarnations and the actions taken throughout.

Can heart chakra activation begin to heal these difficult patterns and raise those vibrations?

Yes, absolutely, I'd say.

But that we do NOT come into being with that 'past history' is a terrible misunderstanding. In fact, it's been my experience that my attempting to heal that outstanding karma has connected me with the souls with whom I share it - foremost being my Twin.

It's just a misnomer, and a 'bad translation', if you will, that Twin Flames have no karma - no past history.

We've got plenty. And we're working to clear it a bit more each day.

I think what's unique to Graduates is that we've selected group / collective karma that resonates with and relates to our most outstanding individual karma.

My Twin and I are handling quite a bit of that which involves betrayal, issues with intimacy, power struggles, abuse of power, manipulations, and mishandling of sexual energy. Not shocking with all that Scorpio.

Our best experiences have come from being creative, theatrical, playful, and optimistic.

And what's all that Scorpio in the Draconic Composite? Leo.

Composites whose focus is the 1H will certainly demand effort and attention. It's front-and-centre. The more conjunctions are there, the more bonding and inextricability.

posted April 25, 2014 04:41 PM            

( ... Wow. Vague much?)

I don't like referring to you as 'tgem'. It's a falsehood.

(Ouch. Sorry.)

You need to stop hiding. You tell others to cease hiding, but you yourself hide. Stop being a hypocrite. You're better than that.

( ... I'm really sorry for this.)

He's on a different path. Let him be. Let him go. It's not your time. Likely not here, and not even this lifetime. Let him go and be yourself. You have MUCH more to give. MUCH more to do. But you must QUIT. HIDING.

( ... I think she's done.)

I am done.

(Thank God.)"

WHO the HECK is HIM??!!

As in my real TF??!! Ok I get it, I get it ...maybe I am hiding...but what the HECK am I supposed to do? I live in a small town in which my reputation has gone down the crapper with all the people I used to associate with.. I've applied for like 20 jobs but yet can't seem to begin my life...so why am I even here? In this place? Why can't I just go home? To be with my family and friends that truly love me and care about me? Why do I have to be HERE?! In a place where I will inevitably have to face HIM??!! If the heavy karma is cleared, why does it still hurt so bad? And if he is on a different path then why is my name etched smack on top of his NN??!!

posted April 25, 2014 04:46 PM            

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"Tgem, you will meet HIM somewhere else.

( ... Wow. Vague much?)

I don't like referring to you as 'tgem'. It's a falsehood.

(Ouch. Sorry.)

You need to stop hiding. You tell others to cease hiding, but you yourself hide. Stop being a hypocrite. You're better than that.

( ... I'm really sorry for this.)

He's on a different path. Let him be. Let him go. It's not your time. Likely not here, and not even this lifetime. Let him go and be yourself. You have MUCH more to give. MUCH more to do. But you must QUIT. HIDING.

( ... I think she's done.)

I am done.

(Thank God.)"

WHO the HECK is HIM??!!

As in my real TF??!! Ok I get it, I get it ...maybe I am hiding...but what the HECK am I supposed to do? I live in a small town in which my reputation has gone down the crapper with all the people I used to associate with.. I've applied for like 20 jobs but yet can't seem to begin my life...so why am I even here? In this place? Why can't I just go home? To be with my family and friends that truly love me and care about me? Why do I have to be HERE?! In a place where I will inevitably have to face HIM??!! If the heavy karma is cleared, why does it still hurt so bad? And if he is on a different path then why is my name etched smack on top of his NN??!!

Can she tell me that? Anything? I feel like such a fool...

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I need ... amethyst, malachite, and about half an hour of peace and quiet. Oh, and something blue. Blue Lace Agate? I think.

All right. I'm going to collect these from my bag o' rocks, and once I'm through with my clients (in a few hours) I'll meditate on that specifically. I have a good feeling I'll gain some real insight.

posted April 25, 2014 05:19 PM              

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Sorry for the rant...please don't take it personally. It just hurts...bad..you know the feeling.... And apparently there's nothing more to do. Unfinished business will remain unfinished business...I guess.

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