posted May 23, 2014 11:44 AM              

Questions related to the first page compilation:

Question 1: why the fixed stars? Some notable examples?

Question 2: So we're looking directly at asteroid pairs? What about planets and angles? Any significant aspects here? (sorry, question 2 is 3 questions )

Question 3: Why Atlantis? And not Hyperborea for instance? Any notable examples of Atlantis involved in Twin Flame charts?

Question 4: What are the natal markers for Twin Flames?

posted May 23, 2014 12:44 PM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

Its also possible that one experiences several "heart connections" or "soul connections" prior to meeting their TF, to get you to do the work so you can be ready.
The universe will put these connections before you to get your attention so that you can begin doing some soul work.

But again, not everyone has a twin flame because not everyone on this earth plane is a GRADUATE soul.
A graduate soul has experience several lifetimes and played every role, they've been in all sorts of relationships in those lifetimes and have learned and experienced all that it has needed ~ and now they have come back as TwinFlames, a one soul-being in two bodies.
They are here to be a new template of love and relationships/unions, to help in shifting the paradigm and clear out their ancestral/cultural energetic patterns, dysfuctions and belief systems.
Its what they signed up for because they are the ones who can bring in this change.

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posted May 23, 2014 12:49 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Oh man, as Indigo and Ceri both know, I could just go on and on about this subject as I have been studying it intensely for quite some time. Here's what I agree with as far as TwinFlames:
1. Yes, all TF's are graduate souls. Not everyone is a TF, however.

2. The relationship is most definitely about a spiritual purpose together!..changing the old thought-patterns, raising conscoiusness, filling the world with unconditional love etc. No, the main feeling is not about romance and having a family blah blah, although it can and does happen.

3. Syncronicities are definitely important and will help you recognize your spiritual awakening and the recognition of one's TF.

4. You absolutely must go through soulmate relationships first (sometimes a few) before you meet your TF as the TF connection is so incredibly strong and hard. A TF will have difficult learning lessons before they meet and are put on this earth to experience the extreme highs and lows of relationships and soul growth.

5. One will have their spiritual awakening either right before or after meeting their TF. The awakening will completely breakdown and change one's previous beliefs about spirituality.

Upon investigation you find that TF's have lived almost completely parallel lives and you see yourself in the other person when you look at them.

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posted May 23, 2014 12:53 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

But ultimately I think of twinflames or twinsouls or Twinselves or Twinrays (I do not differentiate there, it seems hairsplitting to me, a thing of confusing terminology, if they are meant to describ something different, why put the word "twin" in all of these?).

Anyway I think of twinflames as complementary souls actually.
Or let me put it this way, there is a core, that is shared, a twin-core, so to speak, but it is expressed in complementary ways usually.

The complementary expression is necessary for magnetism/ attraction to take place, the Yin - to Yang, and for well complementing each other.

The "twin-core" or core of sameness is necessary for the experience of union at a basic level.

I do not care much for the "mission"; ironically my take on this is probably not even that different from some kind of mission or purpose, I just might not call it that way, as I have found that the conceptualizing and abstraction and finding new shiny intellectually and spiritually sounding names, distorts it all.
Of course it is only my opinion and take, but I find that it has to be EXPERIENCED at a soullevel and can`t be analyzed into existence. Though if it exists, it can be analyzed of course.
Now I managed to confuse even myself.

Seriously though, as I put it into another thread, I am big on the "Become who you are" thing. I mean who you really are underneath all the reality-constructs that sometimes help, sometimes take away from a pure core of Self or Soul. (SElf is a dangerous word to use in esoteric circles as I noticed. lol)

I believe that really is the purpose in twinflames to merge again, to become who they are, individually and together, to realize that indeed they already have arrived in a balanced state of consciousness. It sounds gushy and shallow, but this feeling of "Everything is as it should be and it is perfect"-feeling.

From this state there can`t be anything but light. With that I mean the good sites of life, some call it peace, serenity, bliss, happiness, joy, mirth, wonder, hope, faith, love.

And this love, which actually is some sort of Self-love as well, can`t be contained inside. It spreads and radiates out of the person, and in THIS the person influences their environment, and as I think and hope, brings an uplifting, furthering, enriching, loving, inspiring influence onto the environement, without pushing any kind of personal beliefs on other people.

Just like the great love stories of the world, and also and especially the ones freom real life, inspire us and make our heart sing and our soul soar.
At least that happens to me on a regular basis. Don`t tell me other people do not experience it like that.

Of course that kind of spreading energy into the world, can hapen through so many different things, writing, creating art, teaching, healing, dancing naked around a campfire or whatever areas of life there are, I haven`t covered here.

So maybe I do think twinflames have a mission after all.
But mission sounds so heavy to me, or even worse, so much like "I am holier than thou", in worst case scenario, and i don`t like that.

I think if people come together who genuinely love each other in the way twinflamelove is being described, they shine a light into the world and make it a more colourful and happier place for all being touched by that love, just by being near them.
But it is not something they plan or structure or organize, but it just happens, cause it is love, you know?
Love spreads, contagious like the flu. lol
Maybe.

However, I still feel uncomfortable with the term twinflames, because I have read such alot of stuff about it, some of it resonated, but some of it was very esoteric in the worst kind of sense.
And if anyone will say again: "I am enlightened". and the other will respond: "I am much much enlightened-er than you. Archangel Gabriel told me so." and stomps their foot to validate their words, I will scream. I swear it. I. Will.Scream.
And if I scream, EVERYONE can hear it (and probably some glass will shatter).

No I am not at all denying that we are all on a spiritual path and growing and evolving, but I sincerely genuinely from the deepest depth of my heart DETEST this kind of spiritual competition/ contest that so often ensues and I just find it silly.

I am not talking to anyone in particular, just wanted to get it out of the way (and I remember quite a few spats because of that a long time ago, and actually those were a huge part I was leaving LL back then for quite some time
O and while I am on a roll, noone owns the "real absolute truth".

I only have my own truth, and so has everyone else, we are operating on beliefs here, on personal resonance, but this does not mean it must be true for hte next person.
So I want to stress that whatever I write here, is of course based on my experiences up to the moment of writing.

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posted May 23, 2014 01:23 PM              

This is one of the reasons I don't believe a twinflame reunion =pain, sorrow, cheating etc.

Some of the stories of couples I know who are believed to be twinflames or at least living a great love involved meeting your twinflame when you are with someone else or in a situation that makes being together quasi-impossible. In those cases, the love they had for each other spread around as generosity and the transition was carried out with utmost love and respect for everyone involved, including the exes. Also, they did everything in their power to be together as soon as possible, even against all odds. Moreover, it was pretty obvious in most cases the universe itself does everything in its power to reunite them.

posted May 23, 2014 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thanks, tgem

Questions related to the first page compilation:

Question 1: why the fixed stars? Some notable examples?

Question 2: So we're looking directly at asteroid pairs? What about planets and angles? Any significant aspects here? (sorry, question 2 is 3 questions )

Question 3: Why Atlantis? And not Hyperborea for instance? Any notable examples of Atlantis involved in Twin Flame charts?

Question 4: What are the natal markers for Twin Flames?

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LeeLoo,

The first page has changed a few times since the thread 'launched'. After more extensive research, we all came to realise certain markers and features were indeed appearing in a statistically significant manner. I did save copies of the original page, and the one that followed.

This one has remained because it encompasses the bulk of what we learnt since starting out. How it was discovered was through research, contributed by mostly all of us, namely Ceri, myself, tgem, Michelle, Lavender, Astro keen, Gabby, Delilah, and ... I KNOW I'm missing people.

Then iQ would come along and refine, tuck, and analyse more deeply. Sometimes, it was back to the drawing board; a lot of the time, we hit upon something - and we felt like scientists on the edge of a grand discovery. Heh. Other times, we acted as a bit of a support network, sharing our personal experiences and running them through the astro-lens.

At the present time, those are what have remained consistent throughout.

For example, you're more than welcome to plug in HYPERBOREA, and see if that yields anything for you. I think ATLANTIS may've emerged from Ceri and IQ's research. Then, when compiled with mine, Lavender's, and a few others who aren't regulars here, we had more votes in the 'ATLANTIS' box.

Honestly, I started investigating LACHESIS (120), which may have some promise. It's going to take further study.

But those pairings or Fixed Stars are listed because they've been run through several experiments and feature in multiple case studies. Sadly, our sample size is too small for significance, as the Twin Flame population is rather tiny. But, within its bounds, these aspects and markers present with astonishing consistency.

Of course, we're just getting started!

We have a wonderful direction now, and are always contemplating further ways of deciphering the mysteries of Twin Flame astrology. The latest to emerge from it has been Guardian Souls. So who knows what'll follow?

posted May 25, 2014 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Indi, do you want this one moved?

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posted May 26, 2014 04:26 AM              

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Hey LeeLoo, could you e-mail me at CygnusVagus@yahoo.com?

Anyone else who wishes to contact me can also contact me here.

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Thank you for the email, Morph I'm adding it to my contact list.

posted May 26, 2014 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

I DO feel that this is an impending culmination. 'Popular opinion' around here is speculating that he's tired of the hatred - and DOES genuinely miss what we had. Since I'd written the whole thing off, my head is rather spinning here.

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posted May 27, 2014 07:50 AM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Indigo, what happened at the meeting? Did I miss the update, I saw that you wrote somewhere that he met one of your relatives, or did I?

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posted November 05, 2014 02:24 AM            

Could someone fill me in on where I can pick up with this? I still have the issue of no printer and that makes comparing charts a real bear. But I haven't given up on this work.

I hope you're all well. AND happy!

Love to you.

posted November 05, 2014 04:30 AM            

I've been in this vortex for 9.5 years now, I guess nothing in the grand scheme, but it seems like forever!

I hope all is well!

I'm not a regular contributor, but your story always touched me, mainly because it felt so familiar. I'm so glad you checked in!

posted November 05, 2014 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
wow...where's the rest???

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posted November 05, 2014 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Micole maree!!! I identified with so much of your story, and I've been wondering what you were up to! How's it going with the new guy, and your feelings for Jace?

I've been in this vortex for 9.5 years now, I guess nothing in the grand scheme, but it seems like forever!

I hope all is well!

I'm not a regular contributor, but your story always touched me, mainly because it felt so familiar. I'm so glad you checked in!

Today is my solar return too, so it's an important day for me!

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Hi Bluejay! Happy SR day!!!

Things are "interesting" with New Guy. I've truly been overwhelmed with life and crises since I left the boards here in April? May? It all culminated in a move from the Bay Area to Sacramento that happened on August 30. The people who invited me to live with them moved and it was closer to New Guy so I went, hoping to move to his town. (Which I love in and of itself, so even if this doesn't work out, I'll be happy here. The people basically worked my tail off to get them moved and the instant I set foot in the house in Sacramento, I found out I was homeless. Ousted. I was in shock for the better part of a month.

New Guy stepped up and let me move in, WITH three cats! So, we got bumped abruptly from dating/getting-to-know-each-other straight into living together. And we've both been pretty straight with each other that we weren't ready for it. There have been some wrinkles. Overall, not bad, but I'm really wondering if we're too different. He has a wee bit of the dour Scot in him; Canadian by birth but Scottish and Irish ancestry and oh boy, yeah, stubborn. (Well, I've got some of that stuff too...) There's a ton of Saturn in our charts, but some really sweet aspects too. I just don't know yet. But I give him full marks for welcoming me into his home with grace and warmth.

As for Jace, I do think of him now and then. I happened to be going through my photo file and I had several that I had sent to an experienced astrologer here because she was trying to help me nail down an ascendant through analyzing his features. Seeing those photos again whomped me. I then checked his Facebook page (which I do not allow myself to do) and got whomped again. He's still married. But I sense disconnection between them when I look at the photos of them together.

However. My ex visited in May and my daughter spent some time with him. She asked me occasionally if I picked up anything from him and I told her that I got consistent messages that things are not going well with the marriage. Apparently, the ex mentioned with my daughter in earshot that when he checked in at the old workplace, he asked how Jace was doing and if he was happily married. His former workmate responded, "Well, he's married but I don't know about the 'happily'!". So it seems that I'm still correctly reading him.

Bluejay, I'm not dwelling on it much anymore. Not right now anyway. That may be because I'm in a new relationship. It all HAPPENED. The connection is STILL there, although I just don't visit it purposely very often at all. He's married, meeting his own karma. It feels disloyal to New Guy anyway, for me to direct any energy to Jace. It happened, it happened for some reason that I don't yet understand and that hasn't unfolded in any cohesive way. I'm just trying to make peace with it and trust that if there is some Divine Plan, it will unfold in its own Diving Timing. (Easier to accept on some days than on others, I'm afraid!)

Your word - "Vortex". Yes. I like that. It is fitting. It has now been slightly over five years since the dreams awakened me and I started to leave that marriage. But this started with deja vu roughly twenty-five years ago. A long-spinning Vortex.

I so wish you well and above all, I wish you and all of the rest of us, resolution. It's the not knowing and not understanding the whole picture that is so difficult.

Love to you.

Michelle

posted November 09, 2014 02:40 AM            

The man I believe is my twin is also married, and unhappily at that. There is no doubt in my mind they will get divorced eventually, but I know that doesn't guarantee a future with him. I truly believe that if it's meant to be, it will be, but I have let go of the expectations. I think that's a big part of the process.

I met a guy back in June, he's just an acquaintance, but he's the first guy I've felt a spark with in years. I feel really mixed emotions about pursuing a relationship with him, because I still hold out hope that I will be with the other guy in the future. I know what you mean about it feeling disloyal, and I'm not even involved with either of them .

Were you ever able to find out Jace's ASC? I know a while back I had suggested that you go through the county clerks office. The laws vary by state/county, but usually not just anyone can get access to that information. In my guys home state I found a loophole, and a registered genealogist can get copies of birth certificates. He he! I haven't gone through with it yet, though. I'm trying to shift my focus away from him, but I'm not sure that's possible.

Anyways, I wish you the best!

posted November 09, 2014 02:56 AM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Sorry for out of the blue question... But I was plugging in twinflame asteroids and realized that most of my asteroids are "separating" from his - does this tell a story of what happened in the past life? Perhaps I was the one who ended the relationship...??

I am not sure if this guy I'm currently seeing is my twin, but I thought to play around with the asteroids and see what happens!

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posted November 09, 2014 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I'm not sure about the applying versus separating aspects pointing to the past or future. I know when looking at progressions, applying aspects are gaining in strength, and separating aspects are considered to be fading, and felt less and less. In synastry, I'm not sure though. Maybe it just slightly dilutes the aspect, where an aspect applying to exactness would be felt more powerfully.

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