posted November 29, 2014 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by VelvetPriestess:
"TWIN FLAMES and SOULMATES share similar markers in composite and synastry, which is why certain features are proving essential for proper analysis.
PRESENTLY, we've found ...
• Certain FIXED STAR placements will be prominent.
• Along with the Galactic Centre, (25º50 - 27º01 SAG, depending) and possibly Super Galactic Centre (02º LIB) and theGreat Attractor (15º SAG).2

I don't understand this part of the comment about the great attractor and galactic centre, does this mean that people who have synastry aspects touching these two areas are more likely to be soulmates?

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Hi VelvetPriestess,

It's more akin to those placements also involving Soulmate pairings and being placed on Fixed Stars, or near the GC and SGC.

For example, my Twin's OSIRIS is on the SGC, as is my SATURN. (We also have a lovely ISIS/JUPITER conjunction at 0º, too.) His SUN is on the GC, along with NEPTUNE

So, that's the best way to take the Fixed Stars and galactic degrees into consideration. As we have a conjunction of ISIS and OSIRIS in our composite, the fact that his OSIRIS is on the SGC has particular weight. My SATURN there also creates a special relationship, as I have a natal SATURN/JUPITER conjunction -- which ties back into his ISIS.

posted November 29, 2014 06:04 PM            

Would this be a kind of soulmate pair looping involving the Great Attractor, even though it is not exact ?

In composite we have Pluto Scorpio 5'55 conjunct Proserpina (h57) Scorpio 4'44. And in synastry, my Proserpina (h57) Scorpio 11'28 conjuncts his Juno Scorpio 11'31, which leads to my Juno Sagittarius 11'52 conjunct my Pluto Sagittarius 8'42, natally.

posted November 29, 2014 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Hi Aubyanne,

Would this be a kind of soulmate pair looping involving the Great Attractor, even though it is not exact ?

In composite we have [b]Pluto Scorpio 5'55 conjunct Proserpina (h57) Scorpio 4'44. And in synastry, my Proserpina (h57) Scorpio 11'28 conjuncts his Juno Scorpio 11'31, which leads to my Juno Sagittarius 11'52 conjunct my Pluto Sagittarius 8'42, natally.

Do you think the orbs are too wide ?[/B]

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For the GA, and most points, I don't like to expand beyond 2° -- at the widest. And that's only if they're highly configured.

So, we have the following:

cPLUTO/PROSERPINA (1°10)
PROSERPINA conjunct JUNO (0°03)
nJUNO conjunct nPLUTO (3°10)

The composite conjunction is a legitimate soulmate pairing with tight orb.

The synastric conjunction isn't a soulmate pairing, though it's a very strong orb. Perhaps you're inspired to leave home to start a relationship with this man? Natally, JUNO-PROSERPINA can indicate leaving home for marriage, or that marriage is what drives a wedge between the individual and their mother.

Unfortunately, anything beyond 2°30 is pushing it when it comes to asteroids. We MIGHT go to 3°00 if they're heavily configured, part of a stellium, or otherwise linked to a pattern (which can also be 'heavily configured').

posted November 29, 2014 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne :
Perhaps you're inspired to leave home to start a relationship with this man? Natally, JUNO-PROSERPINA can indicate leaving home for marriage, or that marriage is what drives a wedge between the individual and their mother.

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OHMYGOD. How did you guess ?! You're spot-on. Both for leaving home and my mom not agreeing to this. You amaze me !

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For the GA, and most points, I don't like to expand beyond 2� -- at the widest. And that's only if they're highly configured.

So, we have the following:

cPLUTO/PROSERPINA (1�10)
PROSERPINA conjunct JUNO (0�03)
nJUNO conjunct nPLUTO (3�10)

The composite conjunction is a legitimate soulmate pairing with tight orb.

The synastric conjunction isn't a soulmate pairing, though it's a very strong orb. Perhaps you're inspired to leave home to start a relationship with this man? Natally, JUNO-PROSERPINA can indicate leaving home for marriage, or that marriage is what drives a wedge between the individual and their mother.

Unfortunately, anything beyond 2�30 is pushing it when it comes to asteroids. We MIGHT go to 3�00 if they're heavily configured, part of a stellium, or otherwise linked to a pattern (which can also be 'heavily configured').

Now let's say they were within orb. A semisextile where a soulmate pairing isn't even involved isn't going to turn any heads. JUNO/JUPITER or ZEUS would be the link there; or PERSEPHONE/PROSERPINA with PLUTO or HADES. When I'm looking for links to create patterns, they're typically more woven than that. The only time I might consider a semisextile would be in the interest of a grand pattern, consisting of a greater symmetry.

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Okay, I understand. Thank you, Aubyanne. I'm happy about our composite pairing !

We do have other loopings, with tighter orbs, this time. Not sure whether they are that important, though (no soulmate pairings, but using fixed stars Rigel Gemimi 16 and Formalhaut Pisces 3). Could you take a look, please ?

Using only synastry :

- my Hades Gemini 19'19 conjunct his Saturn Gemini 19'58 --> 0.39 orb
- my Saturn Taurus 15'12 conjunct his Priapus Taurus 16'32 --> 1.20 orb
- my Priapus Taurus 22'38 conjunct his Hades Taurus 21'27 --> 1.11 orb

... And his Hades brings us back to my Hades, etc. I can extend the loop, too.

- his Saturn Gemini 19'58 is also conjunct my MC Gemini 16'45 (on Rigel) --> 3.13 orb
- his MC Pisces 2'30 conjunct my Vertex Pisces 3'03 (on Formalhaut) --> 0.33 orb
- his Anti-Vertex Taurus 18'37 is conjunct my Saturn Taurus 15'12 --> 3.25 orb

... Which brings us back to his Saturn and to the first loop. When you put it all together it's like a big infinity symbol crossing at his Saturn.

Phew, that was long ! Hope I didn't mess up in the orbs.

posted November 30, 2014 12:55 AM            

Since you're learning, I'm trying to figure the best way to express configurations and synastry patterns. I think you may be confusing yourself.

The best way to start with pattern detection is to take all points which are within 2º-3º of each other in the natals and note their aspects. Conjunctions, squares, and oppositions -- the 'hard' angles -- are going to be the most noticeable -- and make themselves the most noticed as well.

You'll quickly be able to determine if there are any soulmate pairings among them. THAT's significant.

posted March 21, 2015 04:01 AM            

Abuse is abuse and I've done enough of that karmic ride.

So, Bluejay, to answer your long-ago question, I *just* contacted a genealogist to find out if he can dig up a birth time on Jace for me. He normally doesn't charge for the first hour and then charges 35.00 after that. But because I have everything BUT the birth time, this should be a very short job and I'd be happy to pay for an hour of his time, even as broke as I am! HAPPY. (The credit card can take a 35.00 charge, but not much more!) I want to move on with as few loose ends as possible and not knowing Jace's birth time for this charting has been a horrible wrinkle.

I HAVE moved on from Jace. I have zero expectations at this point, although I still question WHY all of these way-out experiences happened. No expectations here anymore. But the charting of this "connection" still draws me. I suspect there are answers to be found. And I'd like to find them.

To all of you, again, my best. And my love. I'll try to get back here more frequently. Now that I've left a chaotic and heart-rending situation, I will hopefully have the time and focus to resume my studies of this craft.

So many blessings,

Michelle

posted March 21, 2015 11:20 PM            

Thank you for the love. I'm pretty devastated, really.

Sorry, friends, if that post was too harsh. I guess it's obvious that I'm struggling right now.

posted March 23, 2015 01:14 PM            

But ultimately I think of twinflames or twinsouls or Twinselves or Twinrays (I do not differentiate there, it seems hairsplitting to me, a thing of confusing terminology, if they are meant to describ something different, why put the word "twin" in all of these?).
Anyway I think of twinflames as complementary souls actually.
Or let me put it this way, there is a core, that is shared, a twin-core, so to speak, but it is expressed in complementary ways usually.

The complementary expression is necessary for magnetism/ attraction to take place, the Yin - to Yang, and for well complementing each other.

The "twin-core" or core of sameness is necessary for the experience of union at a basic level.

I do not care much for the "mission"; ironically my take on this is probably not even that different from some kind of mission or purpose, I just might not call it that way, as I have found that the conceptualizing and abstraction and finding new shiny intellectually and spiritually sounding names, distorts it all.
Of course it is only my opinion and take, but I find that it has to be EXPERIENCED at a soullevel and can`t be analyzed into existence. Though if it exists, it can be analyzed of course.
Now I managed to confuse even myself.

Seriously though, as I put it into another thread, I am big on the "Become who you are" thing. I mean who you really are underneath all the reality-constructs that sometimes help, sometimes take away from a pure core of Self or Soul. (SElf is a dangerous word to use in esoteric circles as I noticed. lol)

I believe that really is the purpose in twinflames to merge again, to become who they are, individually and together, to realize that indeed they already have arrived in a balanced state of consciousness. It sounds gushy and shallow, but this feeling of "Everything is as it should be and it is perfect"-feeling.

From this state there can`t be anything but light. With that I mean the good sites of life, some call it peace, serenity, bliss, happiness, joy, mirth, wonder, hope, faith, love.

And this love, which actually is some sort of Self-love as well, can`t be contained inside. It spreads and radiates out of the person, and in THIS the person influences their environment, and as I think and hope, brings an uplifting, furthering, enriching, loving, inspiring influence onto the environement, without pushing any kind of personal beliefs on other people.

Just like the great love stories of the world, and also and especially the ones freom real life, inspire us and make our heart sing and our soul soar.
At least that happens to me on a regular basis. Don`t tell me other people do not experience it like that.

Of course that kind of spreading energy into the world, can hapen through so many different things, writing, creating art, teaching, healing, dancing naked around a campfire or whatever areas of life there are, I haven`t covered here.

So maybe I do think twinflames have a mission after all.
But mission sounds so heavy to me, or even worse, so much like "I am holier than thou", in worst case scenario, and i don`t like that.

I think if people come together who genuinely love each other in the way twinflamelove is being described, they shine a light into the world and make it a more colourful and happier place for all being touched by that love, just by being near them.
But it is not something they plan or structure or organize, but it just happens, cause it is love, you know?
Love spreads, contagious like the flu. lol
Maybe.

However, I still feel uncomfortable with the term twinflames, because I have read such alot of stuff about it, some of it resonated, but some of it was very esoteric in the worst kind of sense.
And if anyone will say again: "I am enlightened". and the other will respond: "I am much much enlightened-er than you. Archangel Gabriel told me so." and stomps their foot to validate their words, I will scream. I swear it. I. Will.Scream.
And if I scream, EVERYONE can hear it (and probably some glass will shatter).

No I am not at all denying that we are all on a spiritual path and growing and evolving, but I sincerely genuinely from the deepest depth of my heart DETEST this kind of spiritual competition/ contest that so often ensues and I just find it silly.

I am not talking to anyone in particular, just wanted to get it out of the way (and I remember quite a few spats because of that a long time ago, and actually those were a huge part I was leaving LL back then for quite some time
O and while I am on a roll, noone owns the "real absolute truth".

I only have my own truth, and so has everyone else, we are operating on beliefs here, on personal resonance, but this does not mean it must be true for hte next person.
So I want to stress that whatever I write here, is of course based on my experiences up to the moment of writing.

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posted March 27, 2022 03:07 AM            

In composite we have EROS conjunct PSYCHE/ISIS and VENUS conjunct MARS all in VIRGO so quite the stellium.

In DAVISON we have ISIS conjunct OSIRIS and ALMA (soul) and that falls right on EROS conjunct PSYCHE/ISIS from COMPOSITE, then all that conjuncts my natal ATLANTIS and opposes his natal Atlantis. In DAVISON we also have SIVA conjunct JUNO/PARVATI and this falls on the Mars conjunct VENUS in composite, all this in VIRGO.

Add TRANSIT PSYCHE is activating the Eros conjunct Psyche and ISIS conjunct OSIRIS/ALMA.