posted February 11, 2014 03:23 PM              

tropical composite:

Lust and Angel on 22 Scorpio
A Rabbit Metamorphoses Into A Nature Sprit

DNA on 20 Scorpio
Obeying His Conscience, A Soldier Resists Orders

Valentine on 23 Scorpio
After Having Heard An Inspired Individual Deliver His "Sermon On The Mount," Crowds Are Returning Home

(I guess we are capable of progress after all. lol)

opposite

Juno on 22 Taurus
A Jewelry Shop Filled With Valuable Gems

and also linkint to

Moon on 22 Cap
A Soldier Receiving Two Awards For Bravery In Combat

Isis 24 Pisces
A Religious Organization Succeeds In Overcoming The Corrupting Influence Of Perverted Practices and Materialized Ideals

Ceres 23 Pisces
On A Small Island Surrounded By The Vast Expanse Of The Sea, People Are Seen Living In Close Interaction

In Draconic composite:

DNA 29 Arie
A Duck Pond And Its Brood

Lust, Angel and Juno all on 1 Taurus
An Electrical Storm

(this reminds me of the Sabian for Dr composite Saturn and tropical composite ASC on 1 Aquarius:
An Unexpected Thunderstorm - quite some energy aroused)

Dr Valentine on 2 Taurus
Natural Steps Lead To A Lawn Of Clover In Bloom

Dr Moon: 2 Cancer
A Man Bundled In Fur Leads A Shaggy Deer
lol

Dr Ceres: 2 Virgo (conj. his natal NN)
Two Guardian Angels

Dr Isis: 3 Pisces(on Formalhaut, one of the four royal stars)
Heavy Car Traffic On A Narrow Isthmus Linking Two Seashore Resorts

As for the helio composite of course there can be totally different aspects, however there is still a strong link up of Valentine, Lust and Angel

helio Valentine and helio Angel on 13 Scorpio
Telephone Lineman At Work Installling New Connections

helio Lust and helio Uranus on 10 Scorpio
A Drowning Man is Being Rescued

helio DNA on 9 Scorpio
A Fellowship Supper Reunites Old Comrades

Though not in aspect I found it interesting that helio Isis is on 00 Aries - beginning a new cycle

"A Woman Just Risen From The Sea; A Seal Is Embracing Her"

Osiris is quite a bit behind her though, on 6 Pisces, so no aspect

"Illumined By A Shaft Of Light, A Large Cross Lies On Rocks Surrounded By Sea"

Did I forget something?

posted February 11, 2014 03:54 PM              

natal composite: 14-15 Leo
helio commposite: 10-11 Leo

helio Destinn is on 13 Leo, natal Karma on 9 Leo. Good hunch. lol

my Babylon conjuncts his Adonis on 24 Libra (Spica/ Arcturus) exact

The Sight Of An Autumn Leaf Brings To A Pilgrim The Sudden Revelation Of The Mystery Of Life And Death

I am not even surprised anymore. lol

his helio Babylon conj. my natal SN on 10 Gemini
Newly Opened Lands Offer The Pioneer New Opportunities For Experience

trine my helio Babylon on 11 Libra
Miners Are Surfacing From A Deep Coal Mine

my helio DNA on 00.59 Libra conj. his helio Adonis on 1.10 LIbra

"The Transmutation Of The Fruits Of Past Experiences Into The Seed-Realizations Of The Forever Creative Spirit

conj. his natal Karma on 3 Libra
Around A Campfire A Group Of Young People Sit In Spiritual Communion

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my helio Inanna and helio Astarte both on 16 Gemini, conjunct my natal Karma on 16 Gemini (on Rigel btw)

The Head Of A Robust Youth Changes Into That Of A Mature Thinker

posted February 11, 2014 05:02 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Hey everyone, trying to get caught up here. I posted our composite Helio as requested. I couldn't fit all the asteroids in so I will add the significant ones below that are not in the circular chart:

1. Yod consisting of Fomalhaut, Chiron and 2Lib (Chiron is also conjunct Amor)
2. Siva, Prosephine and Eros are all conjunct @ 27Can
3. Spirit is conjunct Jupiter
4. Valentine is conjunct Pleiades @ 2Gem
5. Fixed star Rigel is conjunct Angel
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posted February 11, 2014 05:13 PM            

"There is another pile up in Scorpio, that I did not mention yet."

posted February 11, 2014 05:38 PM              

I also noticed that Mercury was quite often in Scorpio, usually aligned with Spirit, or Uranus or Pluto.

Alternatively in Taurus or Aquarius.

posted February 11, 2014 09:14 PM            

Do you think this Yod is tight enough to be considered significant? Fomalhaut at 3.33Pis sextile Cupido at 4.34Tau quincux Isis/Osiris conjunction at 4.49Lib. So the Iris/Osiris conjunction is the apex of the Yod. I'm thinking that's significant if it's tight enough.

Also if you use Chiron at 2.58Tau sextile Fomalhaut you get a 2nd Yod with the apex at 2Lib.

posted February 11, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I just realized that in our composite, Venus is not only conjunct VEGA, but is parallel it, too by only 7 minutes of arc; Neptune is parallel Vega with only 2 minutes.

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posted February 12, 2014 02:40 AM              

Tropical Composite:
Jessie opposite Maria
Jessie conjunct Juno
Maria opposite Venus (opp his n. Venus)

Osiris quadra–novile Isis
Osiris conjunct Uranus–Neptune (on VEGA)
Isis conjunct BML, opposite Saturn (opp my n. Sun–Moon mp)

Eva quindecile Adams
Eva conjunct Sun–Jupiter (conj our n. Suns, his Asc, opp my Saturn)
Adams conjunct my natal Mercury

Ariadne novile Isis
Ariadne conjunct Moon–Mars–Chiron (conj my n. Asc, his n. Anti–Vertex)
Dionysus conjunct SN (conj my n. Moon–Mars, his n. Saturn–Neptune)

Helio Composite:
Jessie square Mary
Jessie conjunct Pallas (opp his n. Venus)
Mary conjunct Uranus–Neptune (conj my n. Child, opp his Chiron–Atlantis)

Eva quindecile Adams
Eva opposite Sun–Moon, conjunct Jupiter (conj our n. Suns, his n. Asc, opp my n. Saturn)
Adams opposite his n. Moon–Mars

Siva quindecile Kaali
Siva conjunct Saturn (opp my n. Sun/Moon mp)
Kaali conjunct Tropical Comp. Asc–Kaali–Atlantis (conj his n. SN)

Not sure if its significant, but we have a Yod of Siva–Parvati–Jupiter in the Helio Composite:

Siva: (Aquarius 7°)
Parvati: (Cancer 6°)
Jupiter (Virgo 7°)

This touches our natals too:

my Sun (Virgo 8°)
my Saturn (Pisces 9°04)
my Moon (Cancer 8°)
my Mars (Cancer 8°)
my Sun/Moon mp (Leo 8°)

posted February 12, 2014 03:01 AM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
To be sure this is a twinsoul-Davison we would need to see tight aspects between twinsoul-pairings though - for now that is to me Isis/Osiris, Siva/Parvati, Eros/Psyche (maybe also Cupido or Amor in relation to Psyche).

Do you think this Yod is tight enough to be considered significant? Fomalhaut at 3.33Pis sextile Cupido at 4.34Tau quincux Isis/Osiris conjunction at 4.49Lib. So the Iris/Osiris conjunction is the apex of the Yod. I'm thinking that's significant if it's tight enough.

Also if you use Chiron at 2.58Tau sextile Fomalhaut you get a 2nd Yod with the apex at 2Lib.

Thoughts?

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posted February 12, 2014 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I don`t use Fixed stars in aspect pattern. The aspects however are tight enough yes.
don`t you have any planet on the early degrees ofpisces?

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Oh I didn't know you didn't count fixed stars in configurations. I thought they were prominent in SM/TF charts. Well the only thing I can find in early degrees of Pisces (as of now) is Persephone at 5Pis. So between that sextile Chiron it then forms the apex at the Isis/Osiris conjunction.

I also noticed we have another soulmate-coupling Yod with Adonis @ 20Vir sextile Lust @ 19Aries with the apex at Innanen 21Aqu.

We have two grand trines: Air and Water:
1. Spirit @ 21 Gem, Innanen @ 21Aqu and Apollo @ 21 Lib
2. Siva @ 27Can, Kaali @ 27Pisc, and Ishtar @ 27Scorp.

posted February 12, 2014 09:16 AM              

They are a reference frame, a backdrop, against which the planets are being measured; in this way they are similiar to the zodiac.

They are not doing anything, they are more situational, a condition, an anchor into time and space. It is difficult to put into words, though I know what I mean. Frustrating really. Happens too often though. lol
I know what I mean but I cannot really translate it into words for others.

Fixed stars are EXTREMELY important, but they do not make energy flow like the planets in their everchanging motion. They are the colour, the quality of the energy that is already flowing, symbolized by the planets.

To make a different example, you wouldn`t count 3 degrees Pisces as part of an aspect pattern either, UNLESS a planet occupied this point in space.

That is how fixed stars work. They describe the inherent quality of the planet that is conjunct it, but they need that planet to pour their qualities into, and that planet then will express this certain quality.

posted February 12, 2014 10:13 AM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Oh! Ok! I get it now. Would the aspects I mentioned above count since they are asteroids and not planets or no?

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Yes, I think the asteroids count, esp. witht hese tight degrees.

However, there is a problem mixing different mythologies.
If we do it might involve an overlapping theme of diffren past lifelines.
Like in my case Ishtar exactly conjunct with Horus might indicate that there is an overlapping theme that came up in Egypt and in Babylon. Some karmic theme carried over. This would even be stronger if the relevant asteroids would be mirroring each other in different mythologies.

Like if Parvati was conjunct Isis for example.

However, it is still two different mythological sets, so there is some mixing taking place.

Personally I find it much stronger to see the interconnections within one mythological sets (adding the karmic and spiritual objects of course).

However, if there is such a strong overlapping between different mythologies, especially to the degree, that degree tells us something significant.

There is a transparence, a strong resonance to that degree in question,however.

Anyway so yes I would count it, but keep in mind that we have different mythologies put together here.

I wouldn´t see that as confirmation of tf-status though.

However, the Isis-Osiris-conjunction alone or the Siva-Kaali-trine are so very telling.
Are there spiritual asteroids or transformational planets configured with these?

Uranus, NEptune, Pluto - catalystic energies (you can see that from the fact alone that they do not really change position much from geocentric to heliocentric; in a way they represent the infusion of the spirit as the helio shows into the physical manifestation. One reason they seem to be so difficult to incorporate in daily lives sometimes).

Spiritual asteroids come to mind as in ALMA, SPIRIT, ANGEL maybe AURA, and I am sure some others.

I would also count ATLANTIS here for its prominence in relation to the story.

And I definitely would check UNION (and Juno).
What is it about, that union?

posted February 12, 2014 10:23 AM              

In my case in relation to the Venus retrograde.

Now, I mentioned that our composite had its Venus-return on 23rd november. Curiously that was the day or rather night we last spoke to each other, cause I felt the need to break the silence. It was a total shift in behaviour for me.

Anyway, I of course noticed Venus going retrograde, so it would pass this way again on her retro motion. Now I knew i would not be seeing him in the meantime, not until well march. So there could be no contact happening, still I had the feeling that *something* might come up, maybe a piece of information.

So the day Venus was again moving over our composite Venus exact, suddenly I saw his name in my email-account.
Apparently I had registered for a newsletter once ago, though I do remember that the registration failed back then, and I never tried again, and consequently never received any newsletter. And I did register on a different site, nevertheless this newsletter (the only I ever received) came from his email address, instead of the official website`s one. It was... peculiar.

It was just coincidence of course but I loved it how it coincided with our Venus-Return.

And today now is the third and last time Venus returns to our composite position, so it means this is the Venus return in effect for the next year for us.

From the time I calculated it, it struck me how it had to fal onto the 12th february, which is the day of my re-awakening (in 2001). And of course fitting the 3-6-9 sequence that is so important for us.

Anyway, no way I would hear from him today, it was clear, but still I had the stron feeling I would get some kind of info. I don´t know. Sometimes you just know, Iguess.

After a long time of silence he decided to communicate over his facebook with the world again. Nothing too significant, but he shared a song of a different artist, and God, I LOVE that song.
So in a way something did happen. I would not have stumbled over this song otherwise, but in a very weird sense it feels like a.... gift.

I really like that one. LOL

posted February 12, 2014 10:34 AM            

Also Horus-Atlantis.

I would say focus on those theme asteroids that you feel strongly about. Or recurring themes you find in you and your TF charts. For me it would be Egyptian.

Yes. I like those spiritual asteroids for helio charts. I was really feeling Destinn/Union yesterday.

posted February 12, 2014 12:25 PM              

" found Aura-Kaali in helio composite chart. I wonder what that means."
Aura-Kaali, responsive and receptive to the energetic vibrations of each other. I think it might make Kundalini rising, triggered by each other, quite possible (as a matter of fact I was experiencing a major Kundalini Rising the whole night through after we first met - as this was the first time, it came as quite a startling sensation, and i was actually thinking I was dying or something like that, but curiously I was mtotally alright with it.)

tracking Aura-Kaali.

My Aura on my IC trines his Kaali on my ASC by 2 degrees. So it is rather prominent for me.

(His Aura is very loosely square my Kaali, but I do not really consider squares with 3 degree orb)

in the composite however the fact that there is almost a DW in synastry is resulting in composite Kaali being quindecile composite Aura (on his natal ASC btw)

WOW!

The Helio Aura is on 13-14 Aries, the Kundalini-degree.

"A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman"

It is biquintile Kaali. Okay, another of these quintile aspects. I wonder what is up with these?

Helio Davison Aura is conjunct Uranus, and very loosely trine Kaali on 6 Pisces (2°46)
. Kaali however is opposite Soma by one degree (Aura is the spiritual energy, the breath of wind that brushes you by, Soma - I think- describes how something feels inside of you.)

"Also Horus-Atlantis."
Very significant.
There is a very intriguing interconnection between Atlantis and Egypt, specifically Giza.

In my own natal tropical chart I have Atlantis on ASC and Angel and NN exactly squaring Horus and trine Giza. Always thought that was neat.

In the helio chart I natally have Atlantis on 00 Sagittarius, trine my exact Horus-Echnaton-conjunction on 29-30 Pisces (I always find this degree quite compelling, as it is sort of the last step before embarking on the new cycle) and sextile DNA on 1 Libra.
(Of course it means Horus-Echnaton is opposite DNA)

GIZA is conjunct NEFERTITI on 26-27 Aries exact, and also ties to AURA on one side on 24-25 Aries, and ALMA to the other side on 28-29 Aries.

Giza/Nef/Aura is too wide in aspect for Horus or DNA or Atlantis. However it IS sextile EARTH on 25-26 Gemini (on Alnitak in the belt of Orion).

EARTH/Moon-complex is also opposite NOFRETETE on 24-25 Sagittarius, in orb of the GC.

And of course helio DNA on 1. Libra exact brings the SGC to mind.

Whatever that means it surely seems like some Egyptian pattern. lol

Sabians are interesting, too.

For the DNA-Horus/Echnaton-Atlantis-complex

DNA:
The Transmutation Of The Fruits Of Past Experiences Into The Seed-Realizations Of The Forever Creative Spirit

HOrus/Echnaton:
A Majestic Rock Formation Resembling A Face Is Idealized By A Boy Who Takes It As His Ideal Of Greatness, And As He Grows Up, Begins To Look Like It.

Atlantis:
Retired Army Veterans Gather To Reawaken Old Memories

"I would say focus on those theme asteroids that you feel strongly about. Or recurring themes you find in you and your TF charts."
Yes, I agree.

"I was really feeling Destinn/Union yesterday."
How so?

BTW Mr Sag and me have an exact Union-Union-conjunction in both, geocentric and heliocentric comparision.

In helio the Union-conjunction falls onto the EXACT same degree as tropical composite Pluto (with Atlantis on the degree before that one).

"After A Storm A Boat Landing Stands In Need Of Reconstruction"

Maybe it means we have been through stormy times already. lol

posted February 12, 2014 02:37 PM              

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Originally posted by summerlite:
ceridwen,

That song! He gave you a message.
Sometimes i swear vibes can be felt even when far away.

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YES!
Very similar things have happened with me too.

Sometimes when I feel him very strongly, or have an intense dream with him involved, I would find that that's when he posts something, and usually they would be either spiritual quotes, his spiritual experiences/dreams or cute little love quotes/love songs lol.
And they would be relative to the particle experience I had as well.

There have been a few spooky instances where we had the exact same dream, or thought/did the same thing, and he would post about that the very next day.

posted February 12, 2014 03:16 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

And I definitely would check UNION (and Juno).
What is it about, that union?
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Hm, I never thought to look at it that way; what it could mean for the union and whats it about...
Good suggestion!

We have an exact Union–Union conjunction.
This conjunction falls on my Mercury, Eros, Apollo, opposes my Utopia, and is solstice–opposite my Atlantis.
Its also quindecile his DESC exact.

In his chart, our Union–conjunction falls on his Valentine and Nessus, and is solstice–opposite his Mercury–Juno on the SCG.
Our Unions are quindecile my Saturn exact.

Would this be considered a DW of sort?
My Mercury conjunct our Unions, our Unions solstice–opposite his Mercury

posted February 12, 2014 04:33 PM              

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Originally posted by summerlite:
ceridwen,

That song! He gave you a message.
Sometimes i swear vibes can be felt even when far away.

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Ah I would love for that to be true!

Actually it reminds me of a very unfortunate almost-meeting we had, but things went really south, so much I did not only decide to NOT speak to him at all that night, but stayed away for almost 9 months (I planned it to be forever, but couldn´t keep away longer than the 9 months. lol); there - on that night, new years eve 2011/ 2012- was one final glance, which was accidental. The lights had already been switched on, I was on the verge of leaving, but turned around one more time for one final glance onto the empty stage. Like I wanted to say goodbye, just when I turned my head it was not empty, the stage, he was squatting there packing his things and actually looking back at me for a few moments, until I turned around and left. As I said, it was not a good night. lol

Anyway, a few months after that he published a song on you tube, the only one he has written himself and published, and the song started with the line of: "Why didn`t you talk to me?" which I almost felt was an accusation into my direction. lol
No, I am certainly not thinking he felt compelled to write a song about me, but the content of the song, well let`s just say that it pretty much describes some stages of our strange almost-connection, just from a perspective that is not mine. Right down to my disappearance act. Actually he used the very same words, I wrote to a friend when trying to describe it.

But hey, maybe he is meeting a lot of people who do that? Show up in his life, then suddenly refuse talking to him and disappear without a trace. Which pretty much sums up my past behaviour, as dumb and silly it is.

I always tell myself that he does NOT remember me, does NOT recognize me, that i am all making it up inside my mind, that I am dreaming up things, and it is certainly all just a coincidence, and if this is true, everything is fine.

But what if not? What if he DOES actually recognize me?
My behaviour must seem more than just a little bizarre, irrational, defensive, incoherent, and confusing.
It would be probably seen right as how he described it in the song.

Which, even if it was not really meant for me, became some sort of a "second opinion" for me, a wake up call, making me realize just HOW silly I was acting, which in some way resulted in me trying to change my pattern of behaviour or actually of non-acting, non-acknowleding, non-communicating.
THAT is why it was so important that I spoke to him last year, even if just for a few insignificant words. It broke the very wrong pattern I had caught myself in and did nto want to be in.

Now of course the question is will I be able to not fall back into the wrong behavioral mode?

In a way, well my Sun is on the GC. As I read in the booky by Sedgwick today, this denotes a person who is being thrust into a state of prominency, of centralization, if they like it or not.

i have always tried to play the sidekick in my own life, but I slowly start believing, that is not really the role I was born to play. Maybe that is why people, especially my superiors, are always trying to push me into positions of leadership?
Positions I never even WANTED to have.

It is peculiar, I se other people who are struggling to get into a leading position, and in my life I often feel like I am struggling to run away from it.

posted February 12, 2014 04:42 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh btw Mr Sag and me have an exact Psyche-psyche-conjunction (along with his Pallas) on 24-25 Aquarius.

And Tr Sun is on 24 Aquarius today. lol

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Lol I have always felt that it was the Psyche–Psyche thing responsible for this!

Of course other factors may have a role too but the Psyche–Psyche connection is what I feel is the deepest.

Two psyches, two souls linked.
In Aquarius it just emphasizes the psychic/telepathic connection.
Ours is in Aquarius too.