posted February 17, 2014 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

° In tf-charts I would expect to find these fixed stars highlighted:

Sirius
Orion (Alnitak, Betelgeuse, maybe Rigel, too)
Vega
Pleiades / Alcyone

Sirius and Orions because of their association with Isis and Osiris who were clearly twinflames.
Vega because of it being on the axis with Sirius.
Alcyone most of all because IQ stated it.
The GC might play a role, too, possibly.
But while I am observing these latter two, I am quite sure about Sirius and Orion (and Vega).

I don´t believe Antares, Aldebaran or Regulus to bear special significance in terms of twinflamces, though they are special in their own way.

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My apologies if you've mentioned this before; I've been trying to keep up with this thread but my head is spinning. Can you clarify whether you are looking only at conjunctions, as is apparently the conventional wisdom with fixed stars, or also other aspects? Oppositions, in particular, seem significant to my untrained mind, but if other tight (0 to 1 degree) aspects are taken into consideration, it might explain some pileups that I'm seeing on or very near certain degrees.

If limited to exact (less than 1 degree) conjunctions, then I have (with my current flame, discussed earlier):

Mercury conjunct Sirius (composite)
Jupiter conjunct Vega (helio composite and Davison)
Uranus conjunct Betelguese (helio composite; also a bit wider in composite)

If you include other aspects, then a whole boatload of questions I've had about why I see so many things near/on certain degrees seem to have an explanation, especially with Alcyone, Betelgeuse, and Rigel.

Astro.com is acting nutty on me, so I can't post charts that would make much sense, but in addition to my previous discussion about the prominence of the SGC in my chart(s), I'm also seeing:

More relationship to the GC than I previously thought. For example, composite Aura and composite Chiron fall on the GC exact.

The 11th degree seems to pop up a lot too; haven't really analyzed this yet, but...

Of course, I make no claim that my current flame is my twin flame. If I claim anything, I'd claim he is a special soul sent to me to rescue me from my previous relationship.

posted February 17, 2014 12:17 PM              

I only consider conjunctions. With the exception of Sun-oppositions (but that is cause then the Earth/Moon-complex will be conjunct the fixed star in question).

I mean fixed stars are a frame of reference, similiar to the zodiac.

My Venus is in Capricorn but I don`t say it is equally in Cancer.

I know that som astrologers treat it differently, but quite honestly if we allow all aspects to fixed stars, it all becomes a bit arbitrary. Everyone will have pretty much very asteroid or planet in aspect to some fixed star.

posted February 17, 2014 01:18 PM            

I was definitely overwhelmed by your initial posting, so please accept my heartfelt apology when I say that I marked it for later review, and it did get shuffled off and buried.

I think there may be something that's come to light since which may provide better answers. So let's break it down into smaller bits and take a look.

Something is REALLY forcing me to hold off in tgem's, and I DON'T know why. I'll tell you my initial sense there is:

• it's connected. There are outstanding things that have yet to be resolved. I have the potential now to help where I didn't before.

• some of the information is bad data, and I'll have to sift through it. That's going to take some time.

• it's ultimately very significant. That feels overwhelming, too!

So don't feel neglected, tgem. I value you very much, and am 'dealing' with my own crumbling structures over here, and starting to rebuild.

posted February 17, 2014 02:27 PM              

do you mean me or Indigo?

posted February 17, 2014 02:33 PM            

Isis/Osiris
Juno/Jupiter
Zeus/Hera
Pluto/Persephone/Proserpina
Eros/Psyche
Adonis with Venus/Aphrodite/Innanen/Persephone/Proserpina
Siva-Parvarti
Rudra-Kaali?
Raman-Sita

in synastry.

posted February 17, 2014 02:38 PM            

It became the way I broke out. It's what got me the producer I have now. I was terrified, but I took the chance. I was glad I did. The license holder is this terribly bigoted woman who told me she'd allow me to cover but not use it in my project. I wasn't 'important enough'. And so it sat on my computer until I released it on YouTube, because I thought it might bring the same awe to others it did me. That there were others out there feeling that, and it might, just for a second, either inspire, motivate, or even just allow a good cry.

Sigh. I've done all three regarding that one. 😉

The whole Les Friction debut album is wonderful. I'm confident I'll be 'important enough' when I release LACHESIS in its time, so that it'll be the official soundtrack, damn it! It's eerily perfect.

posted February 17, 2014 03:02 PM            

The RUDRA-KAALI conjunction in our H-Comp, conjunct his T-MARS-PSYCHE (26°) AQU really jives with certain things.

For one, Lane is very much a 'Rudra-esque' figure, whether in his former incarnation as Lochlan, or in the present of the story. He keeps his emotions in check, because otherwise they're so powerful that lightning strikes things, storms hit, people die, stuff collapses - very bad things.

So, quite temperamental. Naturally, this came from Fate: the way he'll be practically unaffected and easy-breezy - and then plotting your demise with a poison pen and hurling barbs at you. (All his SAG is strangely Scorp-tinged.) So Lane became this quirky guy who could go from everything's groovy to - you're dead. Or, practically. The means by which he senses (and is on guard for a betrayal) is no short of paranoia, and the slightest indication of it leads to total annihilation. Once again, things that just wrote themselves.

Wow. He's calling me on his lunch today. We both had a simultaneous idea for the script yesterday - maybe the same idea. I'm not sure yet. But he called when I had just been thinking I should call him. I was also in the shower, so, no. He left a voicemail that said exactly what I'd been thinking - and that's not unusual.

Gah. He makes me smile. From head-to-toe. So weird. So illogical. WTF was I? Rudra. Well, Rudraness.

When a guy's rage can and frequently does involve storms or calling down lightning ... it tends to put people on edge.

Not Fiona. (Who knows why.)

It's 'just Lane'. And, if absolutely necessary, she'll dick with time to avoid the storm. Literally. It won't kill her, though. It's just annoying. His 'tantrums'.

So, that's Fiona. Her thing involves time, and having an unusual understanding of fate's undercurrents. She has a long fuse, as opposed to Lane, but when it runs out, the earth tends to quake and your typical telekinesis in overdrive is liable to occur. It tends to start small, fortunately, and she catches it before it explodes.

Lane ... explodes. Fiona is an integral part in keeping him in check. He likes that she isn't afraid of him. She appreciates how much he needs her - though he's loath to admit it.

posted February 17, 2014 03:22 PM            

Me: Q of Swords
Fate: K of Wands
Crossing: 9 of Swords
Past: Justice
Future: Judgement
Outcome: Wheel of Fortune

I learnt a long time ago, and it's more mechanical and automatic than a true skill or knowledge I acquired. I USED to know, but that was ages ago.

I was reaching for something and my Scapini deck came tumbling out at me. 😜 I figured, what the hey?

posted February 17, 2014 03:28 PM            

'I don't think I could live without you. I would cease to be alive; merely breathing air and occupying space.'

Fiona in one of her more emo moments. 27 Jun 2012, 16:30. We were supposed to be in production then. It disappointed us both we weren't.

posted February 17, 2014 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Keela, I was definitely overwhelmed by your initial posting, so please accept my heartfelt apology when I say that I marked it for later review, and it did get shuffled off and buried.

I think there may be something that's come to light since which may provide better answers. So let's break it down into smaller bits and take a look.

Something is REALLY forcing me to hold off in tgem's, and I DON'T know why. I'll tell you my initial sense there is:

• it's connected. There are outstanding things that have yet to be resolved. I have the potential now to help where I didn't before.

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I assume the two first paragraphs were for me, the rest for tgem? Thank you to you and Ceridwen for pitching in in some form in any case. If you want to break it down to smaller bits, do whatever works. Maybe it's better to glance at what conjuncts the SGC, GC, Thuban and Vega since there are some things on those spots if nothing else. I didn't have the time to read pages 18-26 thoroughly enough to see if I missed something vital though.

Did you look at asteroids Thomas, Thoma or even Thomana in your charts?

What about asteroids Horus and Hathor/Athor for "significator" style pairs? Someone brought them up sometime, same as Ptah and Sekhmet/Ubasti. Perhaps they're not your primary ones given Rudra and Kaali peaking your interest, but in general?

posted February 17, 2014 04:50 PM              

I treat them as "lesser" Egyptian pairings though. Not that I want to understate their importance, but nothing really beats the wonderful lovingness of Isis 8(to Osiris).

posted February 17, 2014 04:51 PM              

I hear you

posted February 17, 2014 05:02 PM              

his helio Ptah on 20 Virgo opposes my helio Ubasti on 18 Pisces

posted February 17, 2014 05:22 PM            

tropical
draconic
helio

posted February 17, 2014 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
In my opinion this is really the strongest resonance that can occur between charts.
The result is a composite conjunction.

The angle of his Isis to your Osiris is the same as the angle of your Isis to his Osiris. Also the Isis/Osiris angle in his chart is the same as the Isis/Osiris angle in your chart, but in the opposite phase.

Coincidentally I have an exact Isis/Osiris (synastry) conjunction with someone who came back in my life recently. But I would be waaaaay more impressed to find something like a composite conjunction because of the underlying symmetrie/resonance.

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altho i do not think it is a TF bond i checked and have a composite conjunction of isis, osiris with the father of my children. in the fifth house. nothing else to contribute but that struck me as neat.

posted February 17, 2014 11:33 PM              

Are your guys' house synastries strong too?
Do you fit one another's relationship/attraction house as well as water–house symbolism?

I have a theory that deeper soul connections (specifically twinflames) will have all 3 three attraction houses activated (5th, 7th, 8th houses), as well as their secondary houses. and all the WATER houses and their secondaries too activated, somehow.

For those who are unfamiliar with how houses can be activated; there are a number of ways:.

1) House overlays – planets falling in each others relationship/attraction houses

2) One's Planets touching the other's relationship/attraction house rulers

3) One's planets aspecting the others planets which fall into a relationship/attraction house

4) Having the "symbolism" in your chart of the other's relationship/attraction houses and its rulers

posted February 18, 2014 01:47 AM              

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Ceridwen, do you have any other couple asteroids exact or close conjunctions in synastry?

tropical
draconic
helio

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i will have a look, but I don`t think there are so many conjunctions/ oppositions.
Yes, I know they *should* be there, but even if not, the way he affects my life is undeniable.

posted February 18, 2014 01:52 AM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Just a thought,

Are your guys' house synastries strong too?
Do you fit one another's relationship/attraction house as well as water–house symbolism?

I have a theory that deeper soul connections (specifically twinflames) will have all 3 three attraction houses activated (5th, 7th, 8th houses), as well as their secondary houses. and all the WATER houses and their secondaries too activated, somehow.

For those who are unfamiliar with how houses can be activated; there are a number of ways:.

1) House overlays – planets falling in each others relationship/attraction houses

2) One's Planets touching the other's relationship/attraction house rulers

3) One's planets aspecting the others planets which fall into a relationship/attraction house

4) Having the "symbolism" in your chart of the other's relationship/attraction houses and its rulers

Lotis White and Ceri have written some very enlightening posts about this!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211116.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/221321.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216505.html

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Actually my theory was that the 8th house (either planets in there or the ruler of it), will invariably be in strong aspect to the 1st or 2nd house of the other person, at least for deep soulful stuff, maybe tf`s, too.

(5th - 8th happens frequently, too, but places more emphasis on the sex and physical passion; 4th - 8th is extremely deep stuff, too; 7th - 8th very passionate in relationships, too, but on a more committed basis).

The 8th house is the house where you encounter your deepest soulbonding (it is in the relationship quadrant, it is a fixed house speaking of bonding/ lastingness, it is a water house = soulful/ emotional).

posted February 18, 2014 01:53 AM              

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Originally posted by florence:
altho i do not think it is a TF bond i checked and have a composite conjunction of isis, osiris with the father of my children. in the fifth house. nothing else to contribute but that struck me as neat.

oh i do ... the first pregnancy was triggered directly by events of my father being in egypt (& whilst there he walked around a statue of isis (said to bring about a pregnancy))

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posted February 18, 2014 04:02 AM            

In the Tropical:

7H:

His 7R (SUN) is on the GC and conjunct my 7R (NEP) in my natal 4H. (His SUN is also conjunct his natal NEPTUNE, which is an intriguing resonance. Mine is sextile.)

In his 7H, I have NNODE-VESTA-OSIRIS and ISIS. (OSIRIS is opposite his VENUS, VENUS/MARS, EROS/PSYCHE and ISIS is opposite his MARS and PSYCHE.) My OSIRIS and PSYCHE are parallel his 7C.

Interestingly, while his SUN conjoins my 7R, his MOON is parallel it - as well as MERC, JUP, URA, his own NEP, my DESTINN, and SNODE. (My 7R has an erotic and fated feel to it, with MARS, EROS and VX parallel.)

I think the fact our 7Rs are conjunct is rather resonant.

8H:

My SUN-PLUTO is conjunct his VESTA, OSIRIS/UNION there. My ASC, VENUS, JUPITER, and JUNO are also there.

His 8R (MERC) is on the GA conjunct my VALENTINE, semisextile MERC (chart-ruler), and conjunct my 7R (NEP). It's also sextile my SUN, PLUTO, trine my NNODE, VESTA, and ISIS. But it's exactly conjunct my VAL.

His 8H has an interesting flavour, too, with MERC and VENUS parallel, not to mention his SNODE.

And so, his 8C is parallel his ISIS and my VENUS. His 8R (MERC) is parallel my MERC, MARS, URA, VX, KARMA, and DESTINN. It's contraparallel my OSIRIS and PSYCHE.

His 8R is parallel my 8R (MARS), which is another resonance.

My 8R is parallel both his and my UNION. His PLUTO, too. His BML is conjunct the 8C. (My PRIAPUS is parallel the 8C, interestingly. Though they're too far to conjunct, and not parallel, his BML conjuncts my 8C, which is parallel my 8C. Heh. That explains a lot.)

5H:

His JUPITER, EROS, and VENUS are in my 5H. My 5R (SATURN) is on the SGC, conjunct his OSIRIS exactly, as well as parallel. It also squares his SUN-NEP, sextiles his MOON, trines his NNODE, parallels his BML, and contraparallels his VESTA and AMOR.

My PSYCHE is in his 5H. His 5R is also MERC, so the same applies as for the 8R.

A few things of note:

His chartruler / 1R is URA, which is conjunct his 7R and my VALENTINE. It's parallel his SUN, my 7R, (and conjunct) his DESTINN (and my DESTINN and KARMA) and my EROS, VX, etc.

My chartruler / 1R is MERC, conjunct his VALENTINE and my UNION. It's parallel his chartruler, (URA) my own URA, his VENUS, his SNODE, and my KARMA and DESTINN. My MERC is also conjunct my EROS, which tends to eroticise things. (His is sextile.)

Curiously, our natals share a VENUS/EROS/URA feel: my EROS conj my chartruler, parallel URA, and VENUS conj my ASC. His VENUS-EROS sextile his AQU ASC. His URA also parallels my EROS.

Anyhow.

His 7R (SUN) is parallel my VALENTINE, sextile my APHRODITE and trine my ISIS. It's square my 5R.

My 7R (NEP) is conjunct his SUN, and parallel his 8R and 5R.

Interestingly, his ISIS is conjunct my JUP which rules my IC. My OSIRIS is opposite his VENUS, which rules his. That's a neat affinity.

That's a gist. I remember I once wrote down all of the cool mirroring. I'll have to dig that up. But there's the basic overlays.