posted February 25, 2014 09:56 AM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Wow! That's quite a Venus return and to be touching such soft places for you both!!
Do you speak to him? How often do you see him?

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complicated question actually.

I only "see" him on official thingies like concerts (usually small venues, very small ones) or musicals (bigger venues) - so that puts me clearly into the "audience-category". I am not really a fan though. I donīt know how to explain.

As for talking.

First time I ever saw him and he was threatening to hold the micro into my face, he wanted to animate the audience to sing (NO WAY, not ME!), I literally stepped back and hid behind my friend`s back. lol

Then I saw him again 2 years and it had bugged me that I did not know his birthtime, as I had noticed that he was born just a day after me (diff. year). Still I did NOT plan to see him that day and talk to him.
But after the musical - Jesus Christ Superstar - I did not know what to do with myself. I was int hat strange mood. Like I knew that some sort of action was required from me, like a script, but I was postponing it. I tried to go back to the hotel like I always do, and the hotel was just a few hundred metres away.
I got totally lost. I could not find the way to my hotel, which was so easy to find!
I tried and tried, but everytime I tried to find back my way to the hotel, I would end up at the stage door (I did not even know where it was before).
After the third time of wandering aimlessly (well my spirit had a clear aim I suppose, it was just not my hotel. lol) around, and ending up at the stage door, I sighed inwardly and gave up.
I told myself I could afford to wait some minutes, have a look,, prove myself that it is jsut his stage persona that is appealing in any way (though I was not even really attrcted then) and the real person would be boring to me, like they all are in person 8well maybe not boring, but normal, nothing extraordinary) and besides I though, if I was there, I could ask him for his birthtime and horoscope. which is not something I usually do, esp. not men I have never met before.
But at that point I was treating it like I treated everything, an intellectual analytical endeavour.

Needless to say, he came out the door, and was positioned in such an angle (top of the stairs) that he was looking at me, instead of the much prettier and younger fans waiting there, too, while I was leaning against a wall, probably hardly visible in the night (of course I was dressed all in black that night, shabbiest jacket - I always wear my shappy clothes when I meet him. lol).

But anyway his eyes fell on me, and yes, major solar plexus alarm.

posted February 25, 2014 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

What in this made IQ say you are twinflames?

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Here's the email...
"On a thorough look, it is clear that you both were a married couple around 30 AD to 100 AD period, during the time of the Original Gnostic Wisdom.
The odds are overwhelmingly in favor of you both being Twin Flames. Else there cannot be so many accurate Soul mate Pair Aspects."

posted February 25, 2014 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
I don't know how long it will take for me to gain the skills I need to see the details that you all know how to discern.

I think I need help.

How does one contact iQ for a chart analysis?

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posted February 25, 2014 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
complicated question actually.

I only "see" him on official thingies like concerts (usually small venues, very small ones) or musicals (bigger venues) - so that puts me clearly into the "audience-category". I am not really a fan though. I donīt know how to explain.

As for talking.

First time I ever saw him and he was threatening to hold the micro into my face, he wanted to animate the audience to sing (NO WAY, not ME!), I literally stepped back and hid behind my friend`s back. lol

Then I saw him again 2 years and it had bugged me that I did not know his birthtime, as I had noticed that he was born just a day after me (diff. year). Still I did NOT plan to see him that day and talk to him.
But after the musical - Jesus Christ Superstar - I did not know what to do with myself. I was int hat strange mood. Like I knew that some sort of action was required from me, like a script, but I was postponing it. I tried to go back to the hotel like I always do, and the hotel was just a few hundred metres away.
I got totally lost. I could not find the way to my hotel, which was so easy to find!
I tried and tried, but everytime I tried to find back my way to the hotel, I would end up at the stage door (I did not even know where it was before).
After the third time of wandering aimlessly (well my spirit had a clear aim I suppose, it was just not my hotel. lol) around, and ending up at the stage door, I sighed inwardly and gave up.
I told myself I could afford to wait some minutes, have a look,, prove myself that it is jsut his stage persona that is appealing in any way (though I was not even really attrcted then) and the real person would be boring to me, like they all are in person 8well maybe not boring, but normal, nothing extraordinary) and besides I though, if I was there, I could ask him for his birthtime and horoscope. which is not something I usually do, esp. not men I have never met before.
But at that point I was treating it like I treated everything, an intellectual analytical endeavour.

Needless to say, he came out the door, and was positioned in such an angle (top of the stairs) that he was looking at me, instead of the much prettier and younger fans waiting there, too, while I was leaning against a wall, probably hardly visible in the night (of course I was dressed all in black that night, shabbiest jacket - I always wear my shappy clothes when I meet him. lol).

But anyway his eyes fell on me, and yes, major solar plexus alarm.

to be cont.

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posted February 25, 2014 11:10 AM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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What in this made IQ say you are twinflames?

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Here's the email...
"On a thorough look, it is clear that you both were a married couple around 30 AD to 100 AD period, during the time of the Original Gnostic Wisdom.
The odds are overwhelmingly in favor of you both being Twin Flames. Else there cannot be so many accurate Soul mate Pair Aspects."

I haven't done a lot of research on twin flames, so I guess my question is what in this doesn't make you think twin flames because everything I've read and what I felt makes me think it is....possibly!??
You seem skeptical? Why?[/B][/QUOTE]

No, no, no, Ia m not sceptical at all.
More so than the astrology I trust your feelings and experiences though.

posted February 25, 2014 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Gabby,
I think though that it might be your tropical soulmate pairings he was talking about. I have never seen IQ concluding aobut tf-status from draconics alone (though he seems to favour the helio composite).

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Oh, lol!! Ya I didn't list those! Oops, I'm sorry!

I used to look over our charts with a fine tooth comb, now I'm like...ya, whatever! I'm tired of caring about it when it's not serving any purpose to me right now.
I took that list down and was going to try to pick out just the pairings! I've never looked at Helio but not I'm going to!

I looked up some of my favorites(the easy to remember ones) sorry for the confusion!
In tropical chart we have

posted February 25, 2014 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
It seems to me that the men in our lives we believe are our TF's, have either not awakened yet or don't realize the significance of the relationship. Yet it is said, that you Awaken right after you've met your TF or right before right? I mean..the synchronicities starting coming at me 10 fold once I "ran" from the relationship..that's what started the in depth look at astrology. So with that being said...do you all think the synchronicities are showing up like crazy for the men as well? Like they were/are for us? How else would they figure it out? I'm just wondering if they are receiving the abundance of messages from the universe like we do? Especially when we aren't talking to them so we can't ask them...

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posted February 25, 2014 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Michelle, I can't believe how similar your experience has been to mine (and I haven't even heard the end yet!). I'll list the similarities when you post the rest of your story. I'm feeling for you ...every word you write...resognates completely with me...💙💙

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posted February 25, 2014 12:52 PM            

Hara cap@16.16
Kaali cap@18.59
Siva pisces@20.34

Tara gemini@11.04
Rudra aries @10.49

Shankar gemini@1.56
Parvarti aqua@0.53

Adonis scorp@3.31
Astarte canxer@6.23

Yeshuhua scorp@17.24
Mary pisces @18.14

posted February 25, 2014 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Wait a minute...so you're saying that the very first time you actually talked to him you flat out asked his birth time??!!! Wow..that's guts. I'm envious. Tell us tell us....what did he say??!!!😳

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I'm pretty savvy at gaining that. Evidently I wasn't when a kid, because my friends would joke, 'hi, I'm [given name]. Pleased to make your acquaintance. When were you born?'

Now I say I prefer to wish people a proper happy birthday, and need their time to do that. I've gotten a range of 'I've no idea' to 'around [time of day]' to 'around [time]' to exact record. And I always mark which it is, using Rodden's accuracy system.

Acquiring Fate's was memorable.

I was watching the end of 'The Perks of Being A Wallflower' when he texted me out of the blue, that his mom finally found his birth time.

When I corrected the chart, I felt like I'd just received really complicated news. Like a death on one side of the family, coinciding with the birth on the other. Strange.

I guess it's why I cried. I didn't know why, I was, but I was.

Seeing his ASC go to exactly 00° AQU, right on my VERTEX. It was virginal. Nothing had hit my VX dead-on like that; and no one's ASC. It felt like a rite of strange passage. And still, I just KNEW it was right.

posted February 25, 2014 01:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Ceri!!! Are you going to leave us hanging??
Did you just walk up to him and ask for his birth time?? If so that's awesome!! Lol

Do you think he knows something? Have you ever spoke to him and express your interest in exploring your feelings or getting to know him better?
Is he your boss or someone you work with or is he just someone you have always admired his work and are in a similar profession?
You know they say that happens a lot, TF being in complimenting kinds of careers, obviously that isn't true in my case!!! Lol

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Not leaving you hanging. But so little time. Have to have a bit of dinner. My food today consisted of a toast with a little honey, a hardboiled egg, and a few spoons of low-fat yoghurt. SEeing it is 7 p.m. here, I should see I prepare something before it is too late. (I am no model, so I actually need food, or at least I enjoy food now and then ).

Just to give a background. He is a performer (singer and actor), semi-local. Coincidentally from the city my great grandmother was living in, and funny enough she was living not more than maybe 2 kilometres from where he lives or lived. lol
I can`t shake the feeling that I might have met him as a kid, (I have an image in my mind, but could be pure fantasy), an that hat is partly at least the reason for him having felt so freaking familiar from the start.

But as it is, realistically speaking, I am just part of his audience. Nothing more.

So, of course I have been wondering if I am jsut in an "performer-delusion".
But by now I figure it doesn`t matter, the change and transformation that has taken place in my life is so enormous and happy.

And he is one of those performers who actually likes to engage in contact with his audience. At least to a degree.

As for similiar profession. I am a teacher.

However, funnily over the last months I Have been pushed to take over an acting/ theatre-project in school, which is so energizing, it is unbelievable.
Though acting to some degree has always been a part of my life. Singing in a chorus here (I was forced, I never could sing - unfortunately), had to portray my mother in a little scene we did for her and my Dad`S 25th anniversary. A bit of a parody. She was quite shocked as were the guests there, apparently I had her pinned well. She even suggested I should take acting classes, and expressed her regret about having convinced me back then to not try for this job at the theatre (not acting though). LOL
Iw ould never have done so, cause I need more security. And I don`t have the talent or the guts that it takes, and certainly not the looks. lol

But even if I am just a recpient, it is one of the great loves in my life.
For many years, when I was sitting in the theatre, and just before the play, well musical usually, started, my eyes would fill with tears. Not that I was sad before, but just even before feeling so touched. lol

But I think I am doing the best I can nowadays, using my function and freedom as teacher to incorporate as much acting as I like.

That is about me, him however. It made me actually laugh, when I noticed that around the time I was incorporating more acting into my classes, he started going to schools and give courses and teach at his old school. Just short projects of course, but I thought that was a great thing (and no way he could be coming to my school, we are not THAT close geographically, though having said that I had been enrolling in a course about practical comedy-satire in our school, and the teacher actually was not only from his hometwon, but Ihtink was his own teacher once. LOL
World can be small sometimes).

But yeah, eating, I am hungry now.

posted February 25, 2014 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I'm pretty savvy at gaining that. Evidently I wasn't when a kid, because my friends would joke, 'hi, I'm [given name]. Pleased to make your acquaintance. When were you born?'

Now I say I prefer to wish people a proper happy birthday, and need their time to do that. I've gotten a range of 'I've no idea' to 'around [time of day]' to 'around [time]' to exact record. And I always mark which it is, using Rodden's accuracy system.

Acquiring Fate's was memorable.

I was watching the end of 'The Perks of Being A Wallflower' when he texted me out of the blue, that his mom finally found his birth time.

When I corrected the chart, I felt like I'd just received really complicated news. Like a death on one side of the family, coinciding with the birth on the other. Strange.

I guess it's why I cried. I didn't know why, I was, but I was.

Seeing his ASC go to exactly 00° AQU, right on my VERTEX. It was virginal. Nothing had hit my VX dead-on like that; and no one's ASC. It felt like a rite of strange passage. And still, I just KNEW it was right.

And I knew it meant something. I was afraid of what. Anyway, that was a year ago, if that. Comparatively recent. So, keep the faith. It'll come to you.

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I love that story!! I bet it was like an answer to so many questions.
It's really hard when you feel so much and see the evidence but nothing comes from it!
Sometimes I wish I hadn't met him!
Then I could still be ok with the "shallow" kind of bond/love I had easily accepted before.
Are we ruined for life because after them because we know what's possible but if they aren't ready for it, we can't have it with anyone else? Is it a doomed sentence?
I guess thats why I hope he isn't my twin flame!
I met another guy that I thought I could like....we had so much Eros between us, awesome aspects I thought for sure he could make me forget but it just isn't the same!
I can't explain it...
This guy n I have, I think, better synastry but still it feels so pale by comparison( we don't have the awesome composite though) but I'm trying to get over that and hope eventually I'll be content with someone else!

posted February 25, 2014 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
It seems to me that the men in our lives we believe are our TF's, have either not awakened yet or don't realize the significance of the relationship. Yet it is said, that you Awaken right after you've met your TF or right before right? I mean..the synchronicities starting coming at me 10 fold once I "ran" from the relationship..that's what started the in depth look at astrology. So with that being said...do you all think the synchronicities are showing up like crazy for the men as well? Like they were/are for us? How else would they figure it out? I'm just wondering if they are receiving the abundance of messages from the universe like we do? Especially when we aren't talking to them so we can't ask them...

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I've often wondered about that, too. I mean, I can't just ask him. I don't have THAT much audacity. Even if it's happening for him, too, he A) doesn't know enough to find it significant - just weird; B) knows just enough to be freaked out.

In his case, we wrote a lot of this stuff from intuition. But now I have actual knowledge, it'll be good to include the more specific details. But from what he DOES have, he'd know just enough to think it's a lot like Lane's experience, which means that, logically, I must be having Fiona's, which means WE have to be ... and he won't go there.

He was absolutely certain that I was his 'soulmate' back in 2007, and that's a very bold statement for a guy like him, a scientist and agnostic. But since then ....

posted February 25, 2014 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I love that story!! I bet it was like an answer to so many questions.
It's really hard when you feel so much and see the evidence but nothing comes from it!
Sometimes I wish I hadn't met him!
Then I could still be ok with the "shallow" kind of bond/love I had easily accepted before.
Are we ruined for life because after them because we know what's possible but if they aren't ready for it, we can't have it with anyone else? Is it a doomed sentence?
I guess thats why I hope he isn't my twin flame!
I met another guy that I thought I could like....we had so much Eros between us, awesome aspects I thought for sure he could make me forget but it just isn't the same!
I can't explain it...
This guy n I have, I think, better synastry but still it feels so pale by comparison( we don't have the awesome composite though) but I'm trying to get over that and hope eventually I'll be content with someone else!

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posted February 25, 2014 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I will keep watch of this, as I agree - to an extent.

BTW why are you unregistered?

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Finally got my account resurrected.

And all this while i wanted to reply u about what you said.

Ceridwen, speak to him when you see him. You should...

posted February 25, 2014 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I've often wondered about that, too. I mean, I can't just ask him. I don't have THAT much audacity. Even if it's happening for him, too, he A) doesn't know enough to find it significant - just weird; B) knows just enough to be freaked out.

In his case, we wrote a lot of this stuff from intuition. But now I have actual knowledge, it'll be good to include the more specific details. But from what he DOES have, he'd know just enough to think it's a lot like Lane's experience, which means that, logically, I must be having Fiona's, which means WE have to be ... and he won't go there.

He was absolutely certain that I was his 'soulmate' back in 2007, and that's a very bold statement for a guy like him, a scientist and agnostic. But since then ....

If he IS having a similar experience, he's unwilling to accept it into his reality and will rationalise it to death. I'd be hypocritical to criticise. Heh.

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posted February 25, 2014 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Finally got my account resurrected.

And all this while i wanted to reply u about what you said.

Ceridwen, speak to him when you see him. You should...

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posted February 25, 2014 01:56 PM            

It's exciting hearing everyone's stories...I've always felt odd or wondered if something was wrong with me that someone changed me so completely and they still do without being a huge part of my life, physically!

It's made me wonder if I was mentally just off regarding this situation! But really since I met him I've became more stable and happy and continue growing!
I'm happy I broke communication with him, he wanted to see me but had a girlfriend, she travels like he does so it's easy!
I asked if your with someone why is it me your always calling and texting and wanting pictures of everything I'm doing and the little details of my everyday life.....why aren't you talking to her night and day?
He said, I don't know...but your my soothe sayer...you make me feel at peace when everything/everyone else makes me feel numb and alone. You know what's wrong with me before I do sometimes....I don't know how to feel happy sometimes but when we can talk, I'm happy!

He asked me why I never moved to his home base state, close to his family and mom? I said you never asked me to!
Then he asked me if we could meet, after he got back from visiting his girlfriends family for a month!??
I said, you have a girlfriend, obviously it serious or you wouldn't be visiting her family for a month so I don't think that's a good idea and I haven't spoke to him since!

That's was last august.....I don't get it? I wonder if it's him that's needy and twin flames cannot be together until they both have learned to stand on their own and have their own identity so they don't lose themselves to the relationship? Id always thought he was the strong one of us, he's got the great career, money and prestige...I'm just a little nobody that struggles to get by...but I'm happier than he is in my lil simple life! I seem to have answers he doesn't!
Maybe I've been wrong maybe he's the weaker one and covers it up with all that other stuff?

Maybe that's why in this life Pluto his going to cross his AC? Pluto will help him find his lost identity, the one he gave away to be wants everyone else wants, maybe?
His AC is cap@13.53

Maybe we see and they don't because we are healthier than they are, we are further along?

posted February 25, 2014 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Honestly, regardless of whether he's a TF or soulmate...it is just impossible for me to believe ANYONE could replace him...or the love I feel for him. I have absolutely ZERO desire to look for/have a relationship with anyone else...he's it...he's the one. We're just too similar...like we were made for eachother. I'd personally rather go the rest of my life alone, because the chemistry between us was so powerful.

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Omg!! Thank you for saying that!! That is exactly how I feel but a part of me feels crazy for feeling like that!
I mean I rationalize, why sit here and waste away for someone who may or may not ever get it? It's makes me wonder if I'm obsessed instead of seeing reality and if I just let go of it is get back to normal!

But I know how I feel and nobody makes me feel the same!
When I try, I get more depressed trying than just staying alone! But I don't want to waste my life lonely esp if I'm actually just cobsessed with something that will never happen!

I wish I had a sign or an answer to know that staying alone is what I should do!
My progressed Venus is about to hit my sun in a year, I'm scared I'm going to waste that energy waiting on him and then seal my fate to be alone forever!

But maybe we should stay alone, if it feels better and that's what our hearts say to do? I'm so glad to know you feel the same way! Thank you!

posted February 25, 2014 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I agree...how else are you going to know? Astrology only tells you so much right?

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