posted February 25, 2014 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
By the way, Indigo,

Who is this Crystal you are talking about?
What does she do?

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She's a reader, from what I can tell. I just know she works independently and through Mystic Journeys, which is just down the street. She's very down to earth. Not sure her specialty; when we met, she was doing tarot, crystals, and chiromancy.

posted February 25, 2014 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Your situation is much harder than mine, I'm sorry!
{{Hugs Indigo}}

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:hugs back: Well, it's no contest, and you've been through the wringer yourself. Honestly, who's to say what's of anything, really?

I know I've been in a horrible, cantankerous, spacey mood since I got this cold - or it blew up, really, on Sunday - and this raging headache.

I've a sense I should be DOING SOMETHING.

And I've NO clue what.

And I'm HOT. And I've no fever. But I'm in no position to DO much of anything anyway!

Argh. THAT part, I hate. Because I'm just letting my husband down. I'm not giving him what he wants / needs / deserves, etc. (his interpretation; not mine; I give him what I WANT to). But then that makes me selfish. And weak.

Bloody hell, I am ill!

I know, it's just a cold, but it has knocked me on my rear. I'm exhausted on EVERY level.

posted February 25, 2014 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Lol yes I'd def. buy it!

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posted February 25, 2014 10:30 PM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Does anyone know when Yeshuhua/ Maria or Magdelena meet up?
Sita and Raman?
Adonis and Astarte?

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Checking the transits:

March 9th–30th, 2014
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (4° – 15° Pisces)

March 28th–30th, 2014
Jessie opposite Mary exact (14° – 15° Virgo/Pisces)

September 25th–26th, 2014
Jessie opposite Mary exact (9° – 10° Taurus/Scorpio)

December 24th–27th, 2014
Ram opposite Sita exact (3° – 4° Sagittarius/Gemini)

April 5th–6th, 2015
Yeshuhua opposite Magdelena exact (27° – 28° Pisces/Virgo)

April 9th–30th, 2015
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (26° Taurus – 5° Gemini)

May 6th–22nd, 2015
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (7° – 16° Gemini)

June 6th–7th, 2015
Adonis conjunct Astarte exact (22° – 23° Taurus)

July 11th–12th, 2015
Sita opposite Ram exact (16° Capricorn/Cancer)

December 27th–28th, 2015
Sita opposite Ram exact (25° Aquarius/Leo)

May 10th–11th, 2016
Yeshuhua opposite Magdelena exact (15° – 16° Gemini/Sagittarius)

September 29th–October 17th, 2016
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (22° Libra – 2° Scorpio)

March 9th–10th, 2017
Jessie opposite Mary exact (22° – 23° Capricorn/Cancer)

May 2nd–10th, 2017
Jessie conjunct Magdelena exact (17° – 20° Aquarius)

August 28th–September 8th, 2017
Yeshuhua conjunct Mary exact (5° – 6° Libra)

posted February 25, 2014 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Well I sure do wish I could get some kinda of timing about my situation. Like I said, I had three psychics tell me we were supposed to reunite around this time.. But alas nothing has happened. I just can't believe 3 different psychics (noted to be quite reputable for their accuracy)would all be off? Maybe I should look at a horay chart? I have NO idea how to construct those...but honestly, it's knowing that we were supposed to re-unite that has given me hope to keep plugging on with my life. I mean if it doesn't happen, does that mean all this astrology that I've found and the tarot readings and synchronicities have all been BS??!! Really, the thought of re-uniting with him has been the only thing that has kept me going this last year....sigh.

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A troubling thought I definitely share with you. Though, the truth is always that we know nothing. And, if there's something to any of it (the one thing I can't disregard is the Universe's presence - THAT has been right there my whole life, and I've finally embraced it) it's that what's happened had to in some respect. You had to get those three separate 'confirmations' to lead you to something.

Honestly, I don't even trust the things I get in these bizarre trance states. It's hard to.

I think what gets me is that I wouldn't know what to do in a 'relationship' relationship with him. I suppose you do. Would it be nice to feel that powerfully in love all of the time? Well, sure. But I think I've been mercifully freed from its memory.

There's a part of me that doesn't get the point of being in a conventional relationship with a Twinflame without a very solid, very real game plan.

Is the point honestly to just marry and have kids? Surely not. It's got to be greater. Creation. Of great literature, art, of making scientific discoveries, of founding new spiritualities or dusting off and revamping old ones.

It's lovely to have a life purpose to marry someone and take care of them, as in the case of Lavender and the Virgo, but unless you two plan to create some exceptional art that changes the status quo of his field, (and yours?) then it sounds to me a bit more like very special soulmates with great karma who are going to enjoy a reward relationship in this lifetime.

Twinflames can be rewarding, but in and of themselves, I don't see them as karmic reward relationships. Seems there are a great many hoops through which to jump.

If Fate and I didn't have LACHESIS, I'm not sure how much weight I'd give much of any of it. Not a proud statement! But one that's nonetheless true. I'd simply be wondering about my sanity and if it isn't high time I put away my dreams and embrace housewifery.

Housewifery. :shiver!:

Anyway.

So, at least, because of it all, it's incited me to be here, to be doing this, to be searching and researching, and trying to make bloody sense of what's ostensibly nonsense.

Sigh. I'm going home for a week or so in mid-March. I can't wait. Just to be able to hold on to my mother and feel her heartbeat and sigh, and say, 'I'm so homesick,' and have her know JUST what I mean. The older I get, very, very few people get me.

As to being anywhere else?

Los Angeles, Hollyweird, is where I've gotta be to make it all happen. I'm blessed in its own complex way to be here. And I did have a dream during 2012 in which Fate and I were making it work. Somehow. I was sitting back in my apartment with the wonderful assurance that when next we met, everything would be different. We wouldn't hold anything back. We'd be friends, partners, colleagues, lovers, and everything in between. Anything that came to mind. Anything we wanted to.

I adored that feeling. In fact, when I awoke to the so-very-different reality, I was filled with despair.

Like you, Gabby, I can't even think of it.

Or, like you, tgem, sometimes, I can't help it, and it just wrecks me.

But I can control it. I can manage it. I can just not think about it. Or him.

But then he calls.

And I don't NOT want him in my life. I don't. That's not an option.

But then what is?

So, we're working on getting the old game back up on my private site. Like old times. We all miss it. Same story, but some new twists. You never know. It writes itself.

And the time will come to bring it to everyone the way it was meant. And it'll be game changing. It'll rock the status quo. And, with any luck, so many will watch it and relate, and research, and connect, and ... the cycle will continue. Again, and again, and again.

But it'll be committed to tangible form. A series. A one-hour drama. The first of its kind, unique in its message, authentic in its creation - and presentation.

It'll last. Generations to come.

And maybe, just maybe, we'll feel fulfilled. That that's what we were here to do. Ultimately.

Before that, however, I have a few major stories that deserve a desiring audience. Again, uniquely crafted in a whole new age with a message that can neither be contained by time nor space.

And that's what I'm here to do. All of that. He's a big part of a big part of it.

Other than that ... I just work. Wait. Live. Love. Do. Create.

posted February 25, 2014 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I hope you do write it! It sounds like an awesome story!!

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posted February 25, 2014 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
:hugs back: Well, it's no contest, and you've been through the wringer yourself. Honestly, who's to say what's of anything, really?

I know I've been in a horrible, cantankerous, spacey mood since I got this cold - or it blew up, really, on Sunday - and this raging headache.

I've a sense I should be DOING SOMETHING.

And I've NO clue what.

And I'm HOT. And I've no fever. But I'm in no position to DO much of anything anyway!

Argh. THAT part, I hate. Because I'm just letting my husband down. I'm not giving him what he wants / needs / deserves, etc. (his interpretation; not mine; I give him what I WANT to). But then that makes me selfish. And weak.

Bloody hell, I am ill!

I know, it's just a cold, but it has knocked me on my rear. I'm exhausted on EVERY level.

Ugh. Terrible.

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posted February 25, 2014 10:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Checking the transits:

March 9th–30th, 2014
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (4° – 15° Pisces)

March 28th–30th, 2014
Jessie opposite Mary exact (14° – 15° Virgo/Pisces)

September 25th–26th, 2014
Jessie opposite Mary exact (9° – 10° Taurus/Scorpio)

December 24th–27th, 2014
Ram opposite Sita exact (3° – 4° Sagittarius/Gemini)

April 5th–6th, 2015
Yeshuhua opposite Magdelena exact (27° – 28° Pisces/Virgo)

April 9th–30th, 2015
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (26° Taurus – 5° Gemini)

May 6th–22nd, 2015
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (7° – 16° Gemini)

June 6th–7th, 2015
Adonis conjunct Astarte exact (22° – 23° Taurus)

July 11th–12th, 2015
Sita opposite Ram exact (16° Capricorn/Cancer)

December 27th–28th, 2015
Sita opposite Ram exact (25° Aquarius/Leo)

May 10th–11th, 2016
Yeshuhua opposite Magdelena exact (15° – 16° Gemini/Sagittarius)

September 29th–October 17th, 2016
Jessie conjunct Maria exact (22° Libra – 2° Scorpio)

March 9th–10th, 2017
Jessie opposite Mary exact (22° – 23° Capricorn/Cancer)

May 2nd–10th, 2017
Jessie conjunct Magdelena exact (17° – 20° Aquarius)

August 28th–September 8th, 2017
Yeshuhua conjunct Mary exact (5° – 6° Libra)

Wow, Jessie and Mary touch a lot!

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posted February 25, 2014 11:03 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

It's lovely to have a life purpose to marry someone and take care of them, as in the case of Lavender and the Virgo, but unless you two plan to create some exceptional art that changes the status quo of his field, (and yours?) then it sounds to me a bit more like very special soulmates with great karma who are going to enjoy a reward relationship in this lifetime.

Twinflames can be rewarding, but in and of themselves, I don't see them as karmic reward relationships. Seems there are a great many hoops through which to jump.

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We are both involved with the field of art, yes.
And we are also both involved with healing.
He does it through his performances, aimed towards larger masses of audiences, while I take a more personal, one on one approach.
But ultimately both of our work requires creativity, esthetics, and communication.
I can see where the fixed star Vega comes into this.

posted February 25, 2014 11:05 PM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
OH....THANK YOU, SO MUCH!!

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posted February 25, 2014 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

May 10th–11th, 2016
Yeshuhua opposite Magdelena exact (15° – 16° Gemini/Sagittarius)

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Interesting, this is my B-day, and our t-synasrey angle conjunction (my Asc-his IC and SM Midpoint) is here. Yeshuhua and my NNode are @ 7 Gem in my natal.

posted February 25, 2014 11:21 PM              

Yeshuhua (on the Pleiades) is square Magdelena
Mary (on the fixed star Vega) is square Jessie (Jessie is opposite his n. Venus 0°)

posted February 25, 2014 11:21 PM            

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She knew. She knew, with the moment of its release, it had been contracted, somewhere, deep within the furthest reaches of her soul, that with it, went everything. Valdonia, Zandora, the Agency, the Divide, The Maritophan Revolution, and, its leader. Especially its leader.

A day of equal darkness and light. One for a ritual, though, she was neither mystic, nor witch. Just a woman, in the wrong place of the universe, at precisely the right time.

As the Twin Suns dip beneath the horizon, just in time to kiss the Twin Moons rising to take their place, it slips through her fingers; the crystal entwined in bronze prongs attached to ringed chain catching the last falling rays, disappearing beneath the sea. It follows soon after, sliding through the surface of the water, without so much as a ripple.

Gone.

Now it's done. They're both gone. It, and he, he, and it. The pendant. The prophecy. Their purpose. The plan. The point. Their destiny. Gone.

... Gone.

In truth, he left awhile ago. Said he would be back. When, she didn't know. But that he would. Of course, he's been known to lie. And it has been longer, much longer, than was planned.

And so she waited. There was nothing else to do. Just wait. Destiny was not of one's choosing but the purview of that which lie greater beyond oneself. And they'd had a destiny.

Until she grew tired of waiting.

Now, she has nothing.

Memories. Dreams. Disappointments.

And once, belief.

Now, now she rises from the cliffside, a woman reborn. The salty breeze playing in her red-gold hair, like a wild Fury from a forgotten religion since its disciples no longer paid heed. She was more than a woman scorned. She was a woman lost.

Now, with empty hands, and a sense of no idea what's to come next, she begins the short walk back as evening falls around her, and the long, dark night takes hold.

She doesn't see the star that's now come into view, nestled nearest the first moon. The planet which possesses him, and must. The destiny which foretold their union, but instead forced their separation.

The star which shines a little brighter tonight - watching, wondering, waiting - as he thinks of her.

posted February 25, 2014 11:29 PM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Interesting, this is my B-day, and our t-synasrey angle conjunction (my Asc-his IC and SM Midpoint) is here. Yeshuhua and my NNode are @ 7 Gem in my natal.

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posted February 25, 2014 11:33 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
FYEO, as they say. But, I figured, as I was inspired, I'd share this with you guys, just for a short while. After all, you've re-inspired it.

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She knew. She knew, with the moment of its release, it had been contracted, somewhere, deep within the furthest reaches of her soul, that with it, went everything. Valdonia, Zandora, the Agency, the Divide, The Maritophan Revolution, and, its leader. Especially its leader.

A day of equal darkness and light. One for a ritual, though, she was neither mystic, nor witch. Just a woman, in the wrong place of the universe, at precisely the right time.

As the Twin Suns dip beneath the horizon, just in time to kiss the Twin Moons rising to take their place, it slips through her fingers; the crystal entwined in bronze prongs attached to ringed chain catching the last falling rays, disappearing beneath the sea. It follows soon after, sliding through the surface of the water, without so much as a ripple.

Gone.

Now it's done. They're both gone. It, and he, he, and it. The pendant. The prophecy. Their destiny. Their purpose. The plan. The point. Gone.

... Gone.

In truth, he left awhile ago. Said he would be back. When, she didn't know. But that he would. Of course, he's been known to lie. And it has been longer, much longer, than was planned.

And so she waited. There was nothing else to do. Just wait. Destiny was not of one's choosing but the purview of that which lie greater beyond oneself. And they'd had a destiny.

Until she grew tired of waiting.

Now, she has nothing.

Memories. Dreams. Disappointments.

And once, belief.

Now, now she rises from the cliffside, a woman reborn. The salty breeze playing in her red-gold hair, like a wild Fury from a forgotten religion since its disciples no longer paid heed. She was more than a woman scorned. She was a woman lost.

Now, with empty hands, and a sense of no idea what's to come next, she begins the short walk back as evening falls around her, and the long, dark night takes hold.

She doesn't see the star that's now come into view, nestled nearest the first moon. The planet which possesses him, and must. The destiny which foretold their union, but instead forced their separation.

The star which shines a little brighter tonight - watching, wondering, waiting - as he thinks of her.

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posted February 25, 2014 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
You are an amazing writer Indigo.

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posted February 25, 2014 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

There's a part of me that doesn't get the point of being in a conventional relationship with a Twinflame without a very solid, very real game plan.

Is the point honestly to just marry and have kids? Surely not. It's got to be greater. Creation. Of great literature, art, of making scientific discoveries, of founding new spiritualities or dusting off and revamping old ones.

It's lovely to have a life purpose to marry someone and take care of them, as in the case of Lavender and the Virgo, but unless you two plan to create some exceptional art that changes the status quo of his field, (and yours?) then it sounds to me a bit more like very special soulmates with great karma who are going to enjoy a reward relationship in this lifetime.

Twinflames can be rewarding, but in and of themselves, I don't see them as karmic reward relationships. Seems there are a great many hoops through which to jump...

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Ahh, and there we have at least part of what is troubling me about this thread, and where you and I disagree, Indigo. I mentioned it obliquely (and briefly) I think much earlier when I talked about mundane spirituality.

Putting aside for a moment that I still don't believe in twin flames (except to the extent that we are all part of the one), I don't think there is anything more creative or that can have a greater impact on the earth than truly loving another unconditionally and "taking care of" each other. Indigo, you make it sound like soulmates are somehow "less than." I don't think that's true, and I don't think it takes great art, etc. to have a signficant spiritual purpose.

What do they call it? The butterfly effect?

posted February 25, 2014 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Morph N Storm,

"have you had any dreams/visions/astral experiences with Mr. Sag (sorry, I don't remember if you've mentioned this)?"
Yes, all the time. Though they have become so super frequent, intense and with a sense of urgency lately.

Just last saturday, there was this odd (but very blissfully serene) feeling of his energy around me and some sort of soul-merging taking place. Just my impression of course, and I was on the brink of falling asleep. But it felt really good and I had that dream I told about here in that night (with the 2 shooting stars), and well practiclaly hours afterwards he is starting to act all kind of weird. LOL

Maybe I need to take a step back, but I have tried that for a long time, and I don`t know how. It seems like my spirit is reaching out no matter what I consciously decide or plan or attempt or do.

"I'd wonder if you're picking up on things from his end..."
There was a very eery strong feeling, when i saw him posting this picture from so long ago, and a calm voice from somewhere deep inside my mind/ consciousness came up and said calmly,b ut with clarity: "He remembers."
Of course that is completely unthinkeable, but that feeling got so strong at that time. The feel of his energy around me, that I practically fled into my bathroom and was literally begging for a little mental space. lol (it just, too close, you know? It FEELS too close,w ithout there even being a rationale for feeling that way, and I do not want to be all messed up,w hen I am seeing him on stage next weekend)

And hours later he goes and pretty much deconstructs h is fb.

No I do not think this is connected to me, but it is a weird occurrence anyway.

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I def. know what you're saying. That "he remembers" along with everything else you've mentioned should not be dismissed...Thank you for sharing your story with is as well.

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" I wonder if it's him that's needy and twin flames cannot be together until they both have learned to stand on their own and have their own identity so they don't lose themselves to the relationship? Id always thought he was the strong one of us, he's got the great career, money and prestige...I'm just a little nobody that struggles to get by...but I'm happier than he is in my lil simple life! I seem to have answers he doesn't!
Maybe I've been wrong maybe he's the weaker one and covers it up with all that other stuff?"

IMHO that's EXACTLY what it is!!!! I've read way too much that says TF's cannot live in a co-dependant relationship! You have to be whole on your own. Happy being alone, completely Independent...otherwise it won't work...remember "they" (whoever they are) say TF relationships are not normal relationships..so you can't put them in that category.

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This is absolutely true. A romantic "relationship" shouldn't be the ultimate goal either...It can't be stated enough that that is not what this UNION is about, and I will freely admit that this idea/thought process is one that annoys me to no end...

posted February 26, 2014 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Wow!! You going to write that down as a birthday gift? That's amazing energy to happen on your solar return!!!

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LoL yeah, and it's interesting to find out only last night, just how much interaction these asteroids have in our charts.

posted February 26, 2014 12:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
You are an amazing writer Indigo.

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Aww. Thank you, Lavender. I try. Words haven't come to me very swiftly for months. It's been disconcerting. And now, I feel inspired, to put this world I've seen for so long into words, rather than the faux-Earth with certain changes I'd conjured in my youth. The place I go to when I'm lost or homesick; a place I feel several others might relate to.

At least, we can all feel Castalia's plight. If I stay on track, I might get it to see publication 20 years since its inception. Gah! Well, it's really 20 years now, if I'm recalling right.

But she does feel with me tonight. Whatever 'she' is; some figment of my soul, or karmic phantom which seems to hint at my own destiny. I am, indeed, a storyteller. It's the strange way I piece together my existence.

And now ... well, Deviche's made appearances and reappearances throughout my fiction since the beginning. His most recent incarnation being a certain CEO wizard. 😉 Personality didn't change, either. Heh. Double-Sag. Yeah, I should've always known.

Sigh. It feels good. Like sliding into a worn pair of slippers that became buried in some box in the attic. Though showing their age, they conform to you perfectly and fit unlike anything else. It's time both of these projects were finished to my satisfaction and presented - before my bloody Virgoan perfectionism can refuse to allow them to see the light of day.

So, trotting it out here for a spell wasn't a bad start. A good step in the right direction.

I look forward to seeing the art you produce, too, Lavender; rather solo or jointly, or both.

posted February 26, 2014 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by micole maree:
@ Ceri.

Breathe. I know how you feel; I've been there myself. Just breathe and send him love. I strongly suspect that those of us that have these "connections" are sensitive to energy. So send him soothing vibes. This may sound "New Age-y" but it is something I came across that brings me comfort. Send a prayer to him through his guardian angels. You can pour out your heart. You can even do it on paper and then read it and release it. Just include the soft and gentle vibes you have for him and send those with the intent to soothe and calm.

I think we've all stirred up some of the deepest confusions and desires of our hearts, psyches and souls with what we've revealed to each other, what we've shared. Working the charts brings that up as well. I also think all of this is healing for us. The working through, through the sharing, the vulnerability we're allowing with each other, the "sisterhood" of this fairly consistent experience we've had that is so off-the-charts odd that we've had to carry these things largely alone, for too long. That's the way that I feel.

I'm going to share my story here (and it will probably take days to type it out) because this is the place for it. I have to back off of the charts for a while because my head is spinning. I'm too new to this. I don't have any astrology programs, I'm not gifted at math, I don't know how to do quintiles and parallels or contra-parallels. I can see months of study ahead of me just to get comfortable with these new areas.

AND - with no printer, I have to take masses of notes. It's tough to keep trying to do this off of a computer screen, where I lose the prior chart every time I input new info into astro. So I'm way, WAY behind you all.

I've found some significant soulmate pairings in one chart or another (the new starchild ones - thank you Ceri and Indigo - and I think Jessie and Mary) but until I can find a way to print charts and tackle this systematically, I'm lost.

I'm also at a disadvantage with no birth time. I realize there are only a handful of things that are affected by this, but I want to try to get closer. Since starting with a birth time of 12pm (or 12am) is a stab in the dark anyway, I'm going to go with my instincts and find a Libra ascendant. I had bits and pieces of personal info come home to me about "my" guy and one of those was that he finds it really hard to not be in a relationship. As a Libra, this speaks to me. Maybe there are other aspects that indicate this need for partnership, but I'm looking for an ASC so I'm following my gut.

I'll try to catch up with you on the chart work, but frankly, I'm daunted. With the resources I have (and don't have) and my lack of experience compared to all of you, again, my head is spinning. But I WANT to know. Not simply to perhaps bring a layer of understanding and acceptance to this whole experience, but because astrology utterly fascinates me.

I'm so far behind on touching each of you by quoting from your posts. Know this. My heart is with each of you. More than you know.

You've touched me. So much. I thank you, from this opening-up-again heart.

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I just wanted to welcome you here and say that I very much appreciate this post. It's touching. Thank you for sharing your story with us. I find the bold to be true as well. I am def. very sensitive to energy myself.

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posted February 26, 2014 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Oh yeah, Gabby, you said you have a Virgo Moon too. At what degree is yours? Indigo, didn't you say you have one too? Curious about your degree as well...Mine is @ 14 Virgo.

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Virgo@18.35 in 12th house...