posted February 26, 2014 11:34 AM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
his Melanie opposes my Venus 0°
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His Melanie conjuncts my Venus 1°

posted February 26, 2014 11:36 AM              

However, this would be neat, I am missing bits and pieces and mixing up elements of the stories.

But they are all so outstanding, and novellike.

posted February 26, 2014 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I'm so sorry to ask this....but....how hard would it be everyone to copy their story into one area?? ...

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posted February 26, 2014 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Do you mean here, or in another thread?

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Hmmmm, good question! Maybe it would be good to have a thread dedicated to our stories???
We can call "the annoyance of a twin flame" thread! lol playing!

Maybe just "Twin Flame Stories" where we don't post aspects, just stories!

If someone wants to do that, I can't my daughter has an eye appointment we are heading out now, but if you do please put a disclaimer to any skeptics that we are just telling our stories and nobody is allowed to judge or try to call someone out because they don't feel the person really had found their twin flame...it's just about love and sharing what our hearts are experiencing! We will get mad at mean ppl! Lol

posted February 26, 2014 11:52 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It`s always a mix of different things. esides almost no astrologer understands the 11th house anyway.

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True true lol

However, taking its Uranian symbolism into account, it does make a LOT of sense.

I can be very eccentric, unconventional, idealistic, individualistic and independant, despite being from a more strict and traditional culture. (Well I guess part of my "progressiveness", so to speak lol, has to do with growing up in Canada).
I don't care much for mainstream stuff.
Most people have even described me as bohemian and I will say they are totally right

posted February 26, 2014 12:02 PM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
So how do you know if your supposed to be "with" your twin flame or not? Is it Juno? Is it Eros? There has to be something that says, he's not just your twin flame he's your husband also?? Right??

It seems like I had an unusual experience being in such a close relationship with him, immediately.....is it that my Eros is on our Valentine/Valentine conjunction? I guess that would show the relationship was meant to be sexual? But his Eros is exact square my Venus also, his Psyche opposes my Venus makes a t-square....

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posted February 26, 2014 02:08 PM              

How do you think they would be associated with the charts of true TwinFlames?

Would one have Orion prominent in their chart while the other has Isis prominent?
Or could they have either one prominent in both of their charts?

posted February 26, 2014 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
I'm also a 12th house Moon.
Well, I guess it depends on which house system I use too.
Placidus gives me Moon on the cusp of 11th & 12th
Whole signs gives me Moon in the 12th, which I identify the most with.

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posted February 26, 2014 04:31 PM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
I was just thinking about Orion and Sirius again.

How do you think they would be associated with the charts of true TwinFlames?

Would one have Orion prominent in their chart while the other has Isis prominent?
Or could they have either one prominent in both of their charts?

Thoughts?

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it is interesting that you mention it. I never noticed it before, but

Mr Sag`s helio ISIS is on 16 Gemini, right on RIGEL (Orion) - and conjunct my tropical karma on 16 Gem btw.

My helio ISIS and SPIRIT are on 14 Cap (and OSIRIS on 12 Cap) opposing SIRIUS (and on Vega obviously).

his helio JUNO and my helio Saturn (and helio DESTINN) are conjunct on Sirius.

his helio EARTH conjucnt my helio EROS on Betelgeuse (Orion).

posted February 26, 2014 05:02 PM            

To me I would think Juno would have to be significant (it's the marriage asteroid right?). Same with Boda, briede and groom. These seem like love/marriage asteroids, not JUST love asteroids. That's just my theory though.

Just an example (although I have NO idea if this will come to fruition). In our Helio composite, we have Juno opposite Boda exact. What's interesting is that Juno conjuncts Anteres and Boda conjuncts Aldebaran.

To top it all off, Juno forms a Grand Trine with Unitas and Minerva.

Helio Groom (conjunct saturn) is opposite Helio Briede by 3 and Briede exactly trines our Spirit/DNA conjunction.

There's more but I just wanted to focus on the marriage asteroids.

posted February 26, 2014 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
"So how do you know if your supposed to be "with" your twin flame or not? Is it Juno? Is it Eros? There has to be something that says, he's not just your twin flame he's your husband also?? Right??"

To me I would think Juno would have to be significant (it's the marriage asteroid right?). Same with Boda, briede and groom. These seem like love/marriage asteroids, not JUST love asteroids. That's just my theory though.

Just an example (although I have NO idea if this will come to fruition). In our Helio composite, we have Juno opposite Boda exact. What's interesting is that Juno conjuncts Anteres and Boda conjuncts Aldebaran.

To top it all off, Juno forms a Grand Trine with Unitas and Minerva.

Helio Groom (conjunct saturn) is opposite Helio Briede by 3 and Briede exactly trines our Spirit/DNA conjunction.

There's more but I just wanted to focus on the marriage asteroids.

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That makes sense!! thank you! I can't remember if I've checked those with him...I'll have to look it's been awhile since I looked at our synastry and I've learned a lot of new asteroids since then I need to check out!

posted February 26, 2014 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
I was just thinking about Orion and Sirius again.

How do you think they would be associated with the charts of true TwinFlames?

Would one have Orion prominent in their chart while the other has Isis prominent?
Or could they have either one prominent in both of their charts?

Thoughts?

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posted February 26, 2014 09:15 PM            

Our composite helio shows a Moon-Earth trine and a nearly exact conjunction of Destinn and Vega (17 minutes apart). Is this significant at all?

I can't post long strands of aspects because I don't have the tools here to put a whole lot together. But these stood out to me.

posted February 26, 2014 09:20 PM            

do you use Davison geocentric chart and is it better?

Just ran it and Karma was at GA
Sabian: The Great Pyramid And The Sphinx

Took me so long to figure out with the Egyptian past-life theme based on composite mid-point chart, synastry charts.

posted February 26, 2014 09:30 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
it is interesting that you mention it. I never noticed it before, but

Mr Sag`s helio ISIS is on 16 Gemini, right on RIGEL (Orion) - and conjunct my tropical karma on 16 Gem btw.

My helio ISIS and SPIRIT are on 14 Cap (and OSIRIS on 12 Cap) opposing SIRIUS (and on Vega obviously).

his helio JUNO and my helio Saturn (and helio DESTINN) are conjunct on Sirius.

his helio EARTH conjucnt my helio EROS on Betelgeuse (Orion).

Sorry this doesn`t quite answer your question (truth is I don´t know for certain, though it would make sense), but I found it interesting nevertheless.

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No its good that you shared.
It helps me out a lot.

I just feel that Orion amd Sirius could be one of the clues to determining TFs, as the ancient Egyptians believed that Osiris was descended from Orion, and Sirius was the cosmic manifestion of Isis's soul.

Both stars were very significant to many ancient civilizations.

The air shafts of the 3 pyramids in Giza, Egypt line up precisely with the 3 of the brightest stars of Orion.

There have also been pyramids and monuments found in Mexico and Arizona that are structured in a way that they are in perfect alignment with the stars of Orion.

posted February 26, 2014 09:31 PM              

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
I don't know, but our Sun-Vesta-Parvati-Soomana conj. Sirius, and Venus is on Betelgeuse by '14 with Mercury @ 26'19 in our t-composite. Also worth noting is that our IC falls on Castor-Pollux @ 20'55 Can.
In t-Davison, Sun is on Sirius, Moon is on Antares.
In d-Comp, Saturn is on Sirius by a degree.
In h-Comp, Vesta-Parvati-Soomana is on Sirius (which is opp. Earth-Moon, and square Siva-Chiron and Uranus in a G-Cross), with Isis, Innanen, and his last name on Regulus. Venus is on Aldebaran over 1 degree.
Our Earth-Moon is on Vega by slightly less than 2 degrees, and in our t-synastry, both our Moons are aspected by Vega via a tight sextile and trine.

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posted February 26, 2014 10:42 PM            

His t-Natal
IC @ 19 Gem
Sita @ 17 Gem
SM Midpoint @ 18 Gem
Spirit @ 14'56 Sag
Saturn @ 19 Sag
Side note, he does have Unitas @ 21 Gem

Mine
Asc @ 17 Gem
Osiris @ 19 Gem
Unitas @ 17 Gem

t-Composite
Moon @ 15'42 Sag
Vertex @ 15'06 Lib
NNode @ 16'07 Aqua
Unitas @ 19'35 Gem

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We have (his) Giza and (my)Juno @ 29'04 and 29'34 Gem (conj. on Betelgeuse) in t-synastry. Venus is @ 28 Gem, and Giza is right on the anti-vertex with a trine/sextile (less than a degree) to the Nodes in the t-comp.

posted February 26, 2014 11:07 PM            

I remembered something I had noticed in 2009 when I first started studying in earnest. My ex's nodes are conjunct Jace's, but flipped. (Rough 3.0 orb; I'll post exact degrees later.) And their Moon and Venus are flipped as well. The degrees don't correspond but the signs do.

My nodes are square my ex's nodes as well as Jace's. Jace's SN is conjunct my Vx and Saturn, Vx exact, Saturn one degree away. Saturn sitting on his SN always felt pretty karmic to me but the node/Vertex conjunction seems to bump it up.

I remember reading a library book about the nodes and this flipped node positioning was mentioned as indicating a past-life triangle where one man would have to now, in this life, turn over the woman to the other. (I WISH I could remember the name of the book. Our library ended it's local inter-library loan program and that is how I found it. Maybe one of you has read this book and this will ring a bell. If so, please post the title!)

I started thinking about tgem and myself. How our stories are the same in that our husbands led us to our TFs. So I wondered what the charts would show. And I wondered if those flipped and conjunct nodes would point to anything.

Again, newbie here. I cast Jace's chart with a time that spoke to me, which gave him a Libra ascendant. (Through the "grapevine" I had heard several times that he found it very difficult to not have a partner. I'm a Libra and I can relate.) I figured if I had to cast a chart with no birth time, I'd rather try to get closer to who "he" is than go with the standard 12pm or 12am. Note that this does not set up the typical 1st and 7th house placements or angle conjunctions that everybody says are ideal; I'm not trying to make the chart DO something for me, to make it look ideal in terms of partnership. I'm trying to find something close to accuracy.)

I have to say, I'm barely into this. Again, no printer and having to flip from chart to chart by losing the current computer screen is challenging. But there are some surprising links showing up between Draco, natal and composite charts, both tropical and helio, in the connections between the three of us. I used name asteroids as well.

posted February 27, 2014 12:14 AM            

We headed up to Tahoe and I wondered if I would run into him anywhere. We weren't skiing and he was headed to a particular ski run, so the odds were fewer. But then, the community there is fairly small.

I brought up the books I was reading at the time. "Only Love is Real" and "Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs". I was noting how many of the small details noted in both books seemed to fit my experiences around Jace. The heart connection, the telepathy, etc.

My anticipation was high. Finally, a vacation with our daughter. A break. And I was still riding a high from the experience of having had a direct heart connection with Jace. Still feeling the wonder of it having happened at all and the way that it did. Truly, my heart had been blown wide open.

We unfortunately saw only a few snowflakes while we were there. The temperature rose and the snow warmed enough to melt into ice, so making snow angels got crossed off the list. As did snowballs and a snowman. But we still found plenty to do. My eyes were peeled for Jace the entire time we were there.

On Saturday night, we went out to dinner. A friend had recommended an excellent restaurant. There weren't many nice restaurants there so again, I wondered if we'd run into Jace. No. We headed back to the lodge and I started to read.

A few minutes later, a swarm of feelings washed over me, SO intensely. Loneliness, yearning, wishing, wanting. And the tears started to flow down my cheeks. This was so uncontrollable. I didn't know where these feelings were coming from, I didn't know why. They were just THERE. I tried to surreptitiously wipe them away but my daughter noticed. When she asked me why I was crying, my husband glanced from the television to me. I answered as honestly as I could, "I don't know. Some strong emotions are coming up but I'm not sure why." Suddenly, I needed to write. I hadn't brought a notebook or journal with me but my daughter had a notebook with her. I asked her for some paper.

I sat in the chair right at our window, so that I could use the table as a desk. The window overlooked a road that connected the main drag in town to the lake frontage road. Across the way, a thick stand of trees followed the road. The emotions intensified. I was practically sobbing and writing, writing, writing as the tears flowed.

I had NO idea why I was feeling so intensely or why I was crying. I just was. My daughter and husband were concerned and puzzled, but I just told them what I had before. That a whole lot of strong emotion was coming up and I needed to write.

I wrote for well over an hour. Some of the pressure had let up but a fog of emotion weighed me down. Loneliness. Yearning. I wondered if this heart connection with Jace was triggering this longing for my soulmate/Twin Flame. I simply did not know what was going on.

We returned home, having explored the area, gone sledding, and generally just having had a relaxing time. But I returned home with a heart that had somehow been changed. It felt more than open, it felt vulnerable.

When my husband came home after his first day back at work, he said, "Jace hadn't heard of the restaurant where we ate but he mentioned his favorite restaurant that he always visits when he's up there. He ate there Saturday night. Did you know there was a shopping center right across the road from our room, behind all of those trees? That's where the restaurant is."

And THEN the light dawned. On Saturday night, as I was near the window overlooking the road next to our lodge, he had been mere steps away from me. I had been feeling HIS loneliness, HIS yearning, HIS wishing, HIS wanting. He wanted his partner. And he was alone.

But HIS yearning and longing and wanting and wishing were now somehow MINE. I wasn't feeling this man's feelings for him, I was feeling them WITH him. Our hearts were now joined.

(More later. I need some dinner.)

(I'll join the pieces together as soon as you all tell me where to do so. Frankly, I kind of like having my story buried in this long thread. I feel less exposed. But I'll post it elsewhere if needed.)

posted February 27, 2014 01:16 AM            

As for chart rectification, do you happen to know the birth dates of anyone close to Jace (like his daughter, or his parents)? If you know some basic placements (like the Sun/Moon, Venus, Mars, Mercury), this can also help you determine a good Asc. to work with as there are often angle (Asc/Dsc and/or MC/IC) connections from parent to child, and so on...I know it's a stretch, but anything to help you along.

@ Ceridwen, thanks for sharing that bit about Atalante! Unfortunately, she's not doing much in my chart, but:

t-synastry
His Atalante-Neptune @ 2'49 Sco
His Melanie @ 26'39 Ari

My Atalante @ 26'35 Can
My Melanie @ 27'59 Cap

I noticed his Atalnte in his 8th, while I have Melanie in my 8th.

t-composite
Atalante @ 14'42 Vir (conj. my natal Moon)
Melanie @ 12'19 Pis (conj. his natal Moon)
They are connecting to that Sun-Vesta-Parvati-Soomana on Sirius via a trine and sextile. Atalante is squ. the Moon ( Melanie is too, but it's at 3 degrees).

d-Synastry
His Atalante-Neptune right on my Asc., squ. my Moon, and sextile my Ceres.
His Melanie is on the SN.

My Atalante is only trine his Uranus, and falls in his 9th.
My Melanie is squ. his Moon and Ceres.

h-Synastry
His Atalante is trine My Juno-Parvati.
His Melanie-Mars, no tight aspects.

My Atalante conj. His Pallas, opp. his Kaali, and widely squ. (more than 2 degrees) his Atalante.
My Melanie-Jupiter is opp his Parvati, squ. his Osiris, and sextile his Jupiter.

posted February 27, 2014 01:38 AM            

Thank you. Truly. I've always loved writing and I so feel the need to get this story OUT! (LOL) And THANK YOU for that clue to rectifying his chart! I'm off to search the web and see if I can turn up some birth records for his kids.

Michelle

posted February 27, 2014 01:44 AM              

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Originally posted by micole maree:
Jace (continued)

We headed up to Tahoe and I wondered if I would run into him anywhere. We weren't skiing and he was headed to a particular ski run, so the odds were fewer. But then, the community there is fairly small.

I brought up the books I was reading at the time. "Only Love is Real" and "Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs". I was noting how many of the small details noted in both books seemed to fit my experiences around Jace. The heart connection, the telepathy, etc.

My anticipation was high. Finally, a vacation with our daughter. A break. And I was still riding a high from the experience of having had a direct heart connection with Jace. Still feeling the wonder of it having happened at all and the way that it did. Truly, my heart had been blown wide open.

We unfortunately saw only a few snowflakes while we were there. The temperature rose and the snow warmed enough to melt into ice, so making snow angels got crossed off the list. As did snowballs and a snowman. But we still found plenty to do. My eyes were peeled for Jace the entire time we were there.

On Saturday night, we went out to dinner. A friend had recommended an excellent restaurant. There weren't many nice restaurants there so again, I wondered if we'd run into Jace. No. We headed back to the lodge and I started to read.

A few minutes later, a swarm of feelings washed over me, SO intensely. Loneliness, yearning, wishing, wanting. And the tears started to flow down my cheeks. This was so uncontrollable. I didn't know where these feelings were coming from, I didn't know why. They were just THERE. I tried to surreptitiously wipe them away but my daughter noticed. When she asked me why I was crying, my husband glanced from the television to me. I answered as honestly as I could, "I don't know. Some strong emotions are coming up but I'm not sure why." Suddenly, I needed to write. I hadn't brought a notebook or journal with me but my daughter had a notebook with her. I asked her for some paper.

I sat in the chair right at our window, so that I could use the table as a desk. The window overlooked a road that connected the main drag in town to the lake frontage road. Across the way, a thick stand of trees followed the road. The emotions intensified. I was practically sobbing and writing, writing, writing as the tears flowed.

I had NO idea why I was feeling so intensely or why I was crying. I just was. My daughter and husband were concerned and puzzled, but I just told them what I had before. That a whole lot of strong emotion was coming up and I needed to write.

I wrote for well over an hour. Some of the pressure had let up but a fog of emotion weighed me down. Loneliness. Yearning. I wondered if this heart connection with Jace was triggering this longing for my soulmate/Twin Flame. I simply did not know what was going on.

We returned home, having explored the area, gone sledding, and generally just having had a relaxing time.

When my husband came home after his first day back at work, he said, "Jace hadn't heard of the restaurant where we ate but he mentioned his favorite restaurant that he always visits when he's up there. He ate there Saturday night. Did you know there was a shopping center right across the road from our room, behind all of those trees? That's where the restaurant is."

And THEN the light dawned. On Saturday night, as I was near the window overlooking the road next to our lodge, he had been mere steps away from me. I had been feeling HIS loneliness, HIS yearning, HIS wishing, HIS wanting. He wanted his partner. And he was alone.

(More later. I need some dinner.)

(I'll join the pieces together as soon as you all tell me where to do so. Frankly, I kind of like having my story buried in this long thread. I feel less exposed. But I'll post it elsewhere if needed.)

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You have no idea how much this really touched me.

I knew exactly how you had been feeling...
The longing and the pulling is indeed very intense... So much so that it makes your heart ache, like it almost feels raw you know?
It feels as if nothing and no one else but HE can make the pain go away.
Its very similar to being home sick, a longing for reconnection...

I initially felt it back in 2009 too, when I began my awakening.
It happened when I was listening to a song of his, in which he was singing about loneliness, alienation, and a call for his other half to come resue him from his pain

I was so shocked as to how DEEPLY it just hit me.
I felt that electricity, the heart pull, I got overwhelmed with so many raw emotions.
I could literally feel his pain and longing in my deepest core, and I wanted nothing more than to just reach out and comfort him... Crazy I know right?!

This happens to me everytime I hear the songs he personally wrote or read some of their lyrics...

Like a fire almost starts in my heart/solar plexus area and I'm filled with the deepest of longing and nostalgia.

That's why I haven't listened to any of his songs since 2012, because of the strong and overwhelming effect they have on me.
Its just too much for me to bare.

It was interesting because most of his songs were in his native language, a language I didn't know, and yet I could fully understand what he was saying, all the emotions behind it, etc. Very crazy.