posted March 15, 2014 02:04 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Well maybe it's THE defining aspect...which would indicate we are not??!! It would be interesting to see if Lavender has it...

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Yup, we do.
Though I'm not sure if they are strong enough to count...

posted March 15, 2014 02:05 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Here's our first meeting chart: March 15, 2010
[IMG]http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag47/tgem1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps2243976 6.jpg[/IMG]

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T-Gem,

holy moly.

Look at that 7th house! With Sun-Moon-conjunction nevertheless.

And the ASC being on the tf-marker-Sabian (well probably not always, but IQ once concluded two people were tf`s because their composite KARMA was on that degree, 23-24 Virgo - of course that has been years ago, so maybe he would think differently now).

"Mary And Her Little Lamb"

I believe there are some other Sabians that might relate to tf, possibly at least.

Mr Sag`s and my first meeting chart is, well, let`s say difficult, challenging, though in no way insignificant,
Maybe I would have fared better without these challenges, for the first meeting chart is of course the chart of the birth of the relationship/ connection, (a third relationship chart. lol).

Ours has a very precise Sun-Saturn-square. Naturally.

However, in some way it seems fitting, his natal has Saturn squaring his Sun-Moon-conjunction; I have Saturn exactly quinkunx Moon and in exact 9th harmonic aspect with Sun (I fare a little better than him I suppose. lol)

composite has a wide Saturn-Sun-trine (5 degrees).

A lot of Saturn right there. Heavy stuff.

posted March 15, 2014 02:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Yup, we do.
Though I'm not sure if they are strong enough to count...

his Alma contra-parallel my Union 0°18
my Dr. Juno trine his Dr. Alma 0°
Davison Juno semi-sextile Alma 2°

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No I wouldn`t count these.

Well maybe Alma contraprallel Union. Still trying to make my mind up about the declinatinoal aspects. But it is very close here.
Draconic trines - soullevel, emotional stuff. I Haven`t really checked draconics for that yet.

So okay, maybe I WOULD count it, but it just was in the other cases the Alma-Juno-connection was so much jumping out at me. I am a little pampered I guess. lol

posted March 15, 2014 02:09 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

However ALMA and its aspects might prove to be more significant than I originally thought - after all it means "soul". Maybe similiarly to an IC-conjunction highlighting a specific trait of the soul-connection.

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I agree.

posted March 15, 2014 02:10 PM              

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Originally posted by micole maree:
For what it's worth, Ceri, if anything (and since I can't get charts here) our own first astral get-together happened on Feb 16, 2010.

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posted March 15, 2014 02:20 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No I wouldn`t count these.

Well maybe Alma contraprallel Union. Still trying to make my mind up about the declinatinoal aspects. But it is very close here.
Draconic trines - soullevel, emotional stuff. I Haven`t really checked draconics for that yet.

So okay, maybe I WOULD count it, but it just was in the other cases the Alma-Juno-connection was so much jumping out at me. I am a little pampered I guess. lol

Would you mind sharing your birthdate, too, so I can have a look myself?

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Lol that's what I thought xD
Not that strong haha

Birth data:

posted March 15, 2014 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

T-Gem,

holy moly.

Look at that 7th house! With Sun-Moon-conjunction nevertheless.

And the ASC being on the tf-marker-Sabian (well probably not always, but IQ once concluded two people were tf`s because their composite KARMA was on that degree, 23-24 Virgo - of course that has been years ago, so maybe he would think differently now).

"Mary And Her Little Lamb"

I believe there are some other Sabians that might relate to tf, possibly at least.

Mr Sag`s and my first meeting chart is, well, let`s say difficult, challenging, though in no way insignificant,
Maybe I would have fared better without these challenges, for the first meeting chart is of course the chart of the birth of the relationship/ connection, (a third relationship chart. lol).

Ours has a very precise Sun-Saturn-square. Naturally.

However, in some way it seems fitting, his natal has Saturn squaring his Sun-Moon-conjunction; I have Saturn exactly quinkunx Moon and in exact 9th harmonic aspect with Sun (I fare a little better than him I suppose. lol)

composite has a wide Saturn-Sun-trine (5 degrees).

A lot of Saturn right there. Heavy stuff.

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I know..it's prett weird..don't know if you looked up our Helio composite but our earth/moon is at Vir 22'21..sabian then being 23Virgo!

I totally feel you about the sun/Saturn square. His Saturn squares my sun in tropical synastry but I have a sun/Saturn square natal as well.

posted March 15, 2014 02:27 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:

Here's our first meeting chart: March 15, 2010
[IMG]http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag47/tgem1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps2243976 6.jpg[/IMG]

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posted March 15, 2014 03:14 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
I know..it's prett weird..don't know if you looked up our Helio composite but our earth/moon is at Vir 22'21..sabian then being 23Virgo!

I totally feel you about the sun/Saturn square. His Saturn squares my sun in tropical synastry but I have a sun/Saturn square natal as well.

Like you I also have a very wide moon square Saturn.

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No, the Sabian I referred to was 23-24 Virgo, or 24 Virgo.

His Saturn squares my Sun, too. Exact. But then again his Saturn squares his Sun-Moon-MC, so since my Sun-MErcury is conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC - *sighs*

But actually I think I prefer it this way. I need a Saturnian man (and Sag-influence. lol).

We are quite similiar in that regard. Big stellium in Sagittarius, inclduing both Suns and MErcuries.

But saturn-Moon-aspect and Venus in Cappy both; both Venus square Pluto, and well he is even more Saturnian in terms of relationships than me (hard to imagine I know), but his Saturn is conjunct his DESC closely and trine his Saturn by 1 degree. So Saturn aspects his Sun, Moon, MC, DESC and Venus. LOL

Mr Sag is actually Mr Saturn. But I like it.
I need the stability.

Actually my strongest soulconnections (at least my feeling) always showed the Saturn-Sun-square. And with Jude it is a Saturn-Moon-trine, but this goes not just as deep.

But Saturn-Sun, oh man, deep serious profound, in a way you wouldn´t suspect Saturn to be.

But Saturn is a relationship planet to me. Saturn in 8th house natally. For him as wel. Saturn conjunct DESC.

And both of us have Saturn conjunct Vertex.

Saturn, Saturn, Saturn.

posted March 15, 2014 03:19 PM              

not strictly the pattern I was looking for, but wow, your helio composite has ALMA conjunct Pluto (my friend and her twin have JUNO conjunct Pluto)

posted March 15, 2014 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
do you have atime when it started?

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posted March 15, 2014 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, the Sabian I referred to was 23-24 Virgo, or 24 Virgo.

His Saturn squares my Sun, too. Exact. But then again his Saturn squares his Sun-Moon-MC, so since my Sun-MErcury is conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC - *sighs*

But actually I think I prefer it this way. I need a Saturnian man (and Sag-influence. lol).

We are quite similiar in that regard. Big stellium in Sagittarius, inclduing both Suns and MErcuries.

But saturn-Moon-aspect and Venus in Cappy both; both Venus square Pluto, and well he is even more Saturnian in terms of relationships than me (hard to imagine I know), but his Saturn is conjunct his DESC closely and trine his Saturn by 1 degree. So Saturn aspects his Sun, Moon, MC, DESC and Venus. LOL

Mr Sag is actually Mr Saturn. But I like it.
I need the stability.

Actually my strongest soulconnections (at least my feeling) always showed the Saturn-Sun-square. And with Jude it is a Saturn-Moon-trine, but this goes not just as deep.

But Saturn-Sun, oh man, deep serious profound, in a way you wouldn´t suspect Saturn to be.

But Saturn is a relationship planet to me. Saturn in 8th house natally. For him as wel. Saturn conjunct DESC.

And both of us have Saturn conjunct Vertex.

Saturn, Saturn, Saturn.

OF course he would appear in fmc.

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Oops, my bad about the wrong Virgo degree...that's really interesting that you said your most significant relationships had a sun/Saturn! We have A TON of Saturn going on as well.

posted March 15, 2014 03:37 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Oh, wow! I think I know who he is. NOt my genration of course. But yes, I remember. lol

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LOL. I was thinking about asking you if you knew xD

How do you know of him, if I may ask?

posted March 15, 2014 03:44 PM              

The last name you mentioned, there is a family in the neighbourhood with that family name. Two daughters, I was, well, not directly brefriended but spent time with the younger one.
We fought a lot, as she was 3 years older and I would not submit to her superiority. lol
She also was digging up a lot of that spiritual business.
Well she was interested in it, as many kids are, the problem was, I had apparently real talent.
I know she attempted a hypnosis on me once, and apparently I relaly fell into a trance, and she was very startled when I came to my senses again. We never really talked about i, or at least I don`t quite remember (except something about the name Adam, no clue why).
But somehow the balance of power shifted that day. lol

Why do you ask?

posted March 15, 2014 03:48 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Oops, my bad about the wrong Virgo degree...that's really interesting that you said your most significant relationships had a sun/Saturn! We have A TON of Saturn going on as well.

Our sun/Saturn square is tight at 2 degrees but we also have a moon/Saturn as well DW trine 2, quintile exact.

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My Saturn opposite his Sun 0°
My Sun trine his Saturn 0°
My Moon opposite his Saturn 0°

posted March 15, 2014 03:48 PM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
LOL. I was thinking about asking you if you knew xD

How do you know of him, if I may ask?

Oh and can you please unquote our birth datas.
I'm a bit paranoid lol.

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Sorry. I corrected it now.

Some years ago this song they did was being played all summer long, up and down in every radio station, not to mention my female pupils going gaga. Though most went nuts over his brother, I think.

posted March 15, 2014 03:56 PM            

My ALMA at 5.58 Scorpio (conjunct IC at 9.18) opposed his AURA at 7.05 Taurus. My MH at 9.18 Taurus; is that close enough to be in orb?

However his ANGEL is also conjunct my DSC (16.xx Aqua) within a degree and a few minutes.

posted March 15, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Michelle,

which city?

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