posted March 15, 2014 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think ALMA is more generic in a way. Like UNION, too. It is in a way neutral, answering to the question: What is there at the bottom, the soul of it? What is the soul-connection?

PSYCHE Is a specific trait. Being in tune psychically with someone else, or very intuitive and vulnerable. Also relating to one pair of the soulmate pairing of course. Do you have Atlantis-Eros, Atlantis-Amor or even Atlantis-Cupido in your chart?

or one of those aspecting his Atlantis-Psyche?

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My Natal Atlantis Sag 13'39 and Cupido Can 11'35
..so a quincunx however my Atlantis squares his natal Atlantis/Psyche conjunction by 2.5

posted March 15, 2014 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
This is actually an interesting idea and part of the problem I have with the idea of twin flames. If you are truly one, I would think you don't really need to act on it, it's fine as it is, whatever it is. If you aren't "the same", if the dynamic between you is more complementary, there's probably a stronger drive to act upon it.

Which makes me wonder about some of the famous examples of what are being defined as "twin flame relationships"--the Newmans, the Cashes, etc. Do they really manifest a "we are one" energy, or is it more dynamic than that?

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posted March 15, 2014 07:31 PM              

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Originally posted by micole maree:

So, it WAS the astral meeting? Like mine?

You didn't *really* say. I'm just guessing.

And yeah, "angel" fits. Suspended in the air, ethereal white, welcome spiritual visitation?

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I still owe you all an explanation and answer to this I think.

Not quite the astral, as I mentioned. Happened in the real time zone. I remember lying in my own bed, I wouldn´t have been surprised if I had drifted into the hypagnogic, but instead, real time zone as I said.

But even that would have been almost normal, if not...

Well, the "meeting" took a different spin than usually, decidedly sexual.
Of course still a spiritual dimension, but, you know.
Does a prudish Cap-venus like me really have to spell it out?

Sexual, but with the feeling of spiritual soulmerging and fusion.

I have had my share of astral-spiritual experiences, most certainly, but THIS?
This was new.
Not that I really tried to resist it or jolt out of it or whatever. lol

Not only suspended in air, but in time as well.

I was conscious of that something happened, but at the same time also foggy and misty and maybe not conscious in the way you would be during day, when you are not in real time zone, but in the physical.

Of course afterwards I rationalized it away, just a fantasy, a weird dream.

Moon-in-Gemini-square Neptune. D `oh. OF COURSE I rationalized it away, refusing to believe it really happened, except as some strange movie in my mind.

BTW that Moon in Gemini in that event chat?
Conjunct my Draconic MOon and his Draconic Lust-Angel-conjunction. Plus conjunct our first meeting Sun-Sappho-Priapus. lol

the Moon HAD to be there, I suppose.

So yeah, definitely a first time ther. At least to my memory.

Though I remember on one concert or musical, while we were looking at each other, well I listened to him singin mostly. lol, there was suddenly something like a jolt or lightening trhough my skull, like a whip, and I saw, remembered, was being shown glimpses, flashes of imagery, I did not consciously remember as a dream, astral or real time zone experience, but it was like something that had been in the dark oblivion, suddenly was illuminated by a strike of lightening.

And it was, well, the scene was more than hot.

Lousy timing though!
I almost jerked, so startles was I. And I wonder if my facial expression was equally shocked as the shock that i saw on HIS face.
I mean for real, he stared at me and it was a moment of complete shock (though it struck me how there was shock and sudden surprise, but no confusion. Shouldn`t there have been confusion?).
Just a tiny short moment, and probably I am imagining him looking sort of shocked (but really sometimes I wonder HOW MUCH does he know and sense?)

Anyway imagined or not, he decided to completely ignore me and avoid any kind of eyecontact for the rest of the show. Oh he did look, glimpsed at me, but whenever I looked back, other things were endlessly more interesting. It felt so intentional. LOL

And that event chart?
Well, apparently pretty much exactly a month after it he got into a relationship. aT least she had noted the date of 19th may 2013 as beginning of her relationship, and since she is his gf. oh well...

I remember the 19th may, and 18th may for two reasons.
The night before I was having such a dreadful feeling inside, such a pain, such a fear, but no, fear means there is hope, too. This was knowledge, something was threatening, something was happening, someone would die, I would lose someone close to me. Though Ithought it would be in my family, as my grandmother was so sick (she would die, but 2 months later).

But then again I calmed myself, cause just the night before I had been watching "the notebook" and though I usally am not that sentimental when it comes to this kind of film, I was crying so much during it. Unbelievable.
The notebook. I had to watch it that night, right? *sighs*

Anyway, maybe it was not him getting together with her that was responsible for that dreadful feeling.
Actually on 19th may, sunday, my uncle was having a stroke, he luckily recovered completely, but it did not look good at that time.

And then the month after that my grandmother died. So all in all may, june and july were really crappy months.

posted March 15, 2014 07:45 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
I have a gem moon too Ceri but in the 12th opposite neptune. I can't even watch the Notebook without sobbing my eyes out..that is one of the movies where I would have considered those two to be TF's...out of the many others that have been dubbed TF movies.

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Lol that's his favorite movie... He even has a huge crush on Rachel McAdams

posted March 15, 2014 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

Lol that's his favorite movie... He even has a huge crush on Rachel McAdams

Though yes, I get really emotional watching that movie as well, so much that I avoid watching it now.
Its too much for my Cancer Moon.

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Yeah, that Scorpio energy from Ryan Gosling...whooo... I LOVE Scorpio energy...

posted March 15, 2014 07:52 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
.that is one of the movies where I would have considered those two to be TF's...out of the many others that have been dubbed TF movies.

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posted March 15, 2014 07:53 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Yeah, that Scorpio energy from Ryan Gosling...whooo... I LOVE Scorpio energy...

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LOL me too.

posted March 15, 2014 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
“The reason it hurts so much to separate is because our souls are connected. Maybe they always have been and always will be. Maybe we've lived a thousand lives before this one and in each of them we've found each other. And maybe each time, we've been forced apart for the same reasons. That means that this goodbye is both a goodbye for the past ten thousand years and a prelude to what will come. 

When I look at you, I see your beauty and grace and know they have grown stronger with every life you have lived. And I know I have spent every life before this on searching for you. Not someone like you, but you, for your soul and mine must always come together. And then, for a reason neither of us understand, we've been forced to say goodbye.

 I would love to tell you that everything will work out for us, and I promise to do all I can to make sure it does. But if we never meet again and this is truly goodbye, I know we will see each other again, and maybe the stars will have changed, and we will not only love each other in that time, but for all the times we've had before.”
― Nicholas Sparks, The Notebook

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posted March 15, 2014 07:58 PM              

But it`s kathartic, you know?

posted March 15, 2014 07:59 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
“The reason it hurts so much to separate is because our souls are connected. Maybe they always have been and always will be. Maybe we've lived a thousand lives before this one and in each of them we've found each other. And maybe each time, we've been forced apart for the same reasons. That means that this goodbye is both a goodbye for the past ten thousand years and a prelude to what will come. 

When I look at you, I see your beauty and grace and know they have grown stronger with every life you have lived. And I know I have spent every life before this on searching for you. Not someone like you, but you, for your soul and mine must always come together. And then, for a reason neither of us understand, we've been forced to say goodbye.

 I would love to tell you that everything will work out for us, and I promise to do all I can to make sure it does. But if we never meet again and this is truly goodbye, I know we will see each other again, and maybe the stars will have changed, and we will not only love each other in that time, but for all the times we've had before.”
― Nicholas Sparks, The Notebook

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Man that hit deep into my heart chakra

Ouch ouch ouch!!!

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posted March 15, 2014 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
LOL me too.

5th house ruler's in Scorpio.

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Ha! Yeah my 5th house is split between Libra and Scorpio with Pluto and Uranus in it, Juno in the 8th, and merc, venus, mars, Uranus, neptune, and MC all aspecting Pluto.

Give me some of that tall, dark and handsome...and not just physically

posted March 15, 2014 08:10 PM              

Try to endure the ache, the pain, the longing.
It is part of your heart chakra activation. It is part of your love. it actually shows the depth of your love.

It will fade again, not the love, the pain I mean.
Isn`t he worth it to go through it?
Would your life be better without having known him?

Seriously, if the answer is YES, I am going to doubt he is your tf.

OF course it freaking hurts me, too. But call me a masochist, at the same time I marvel at it.

Well, I always decided to block out the pain, rationalize it all away, seeing him never again.
But to be honest I feel so much more at peace since I stopped doing that (in the grand at least - of course there ar emoments, or days when I push him away).
And through it all I know for a fact that my life is so much more worthwile because he touched it, even through the insecurities, doubts, sadness and ache.
It`s worth it. Every step of the way.

posted March 15, 2014 08:22 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Don`t.
If you do the cycle wil repeat itself over and over again, and you will find yourself at the exact same point and have to go through it again.

Try to endure the ache, the pain, the longing.
It is part of your heart chakra activation. It is part of your love. it actually shows the depth of your love.

It will fade again, not the love, the pain I mean.
Isn`t he worth it to go through it?
Would your life be better without having known him?

Seriously, if the answer is YES, I am going to doubt he is your tf.

OF course it freaking hurts me, too. But call me a masochist, at the same time I marvel at it.

Well, I always decided to block out the pain, rationalize it all away, seeing him never again.
But to be honest I feel so much more at peace since I stopped doing that (in the grand at least - of course there ar emoments, or days when I push him away).
And through it all I know for a fact that my life is so much more worthwile because he touched it, even through the insecurities, doubts, sadness and ache.
It`s worth it. Every step of the way.

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Its been a while since these fears and insecurities cropped up again...
Maybe its because we're nearing a full moon?

But I think you're right.
This pain is so worth it.
It if weren't have been for him I wouldn't have changed and awakened so much....

Crap I'm feeling him all sad now lol, though its likely just my imagination and fantasy.
But whatever it is, it just hurts and I feel awful.

posted March 15, 2014 08:25 PM            

He awakened part of me I never knew existed.... I wanted to believe it was there...but nothing had quite "activated" it.

...then him...his eyes...the stare...the breaking down all of my defenses (no matter how high I built my wall) only to leave me naked...completely psychologically naked....like he could see all my flaws ( and I was a MASTER at covering them up - ASC conjunct jupiter.).

Gosh...too much wine I guess. But I do wonder....I really really do...if he privately thinks/longs for me the same way. Does he even realize the connection? Will he ever? Ouch...ouch...

posted March 15, 2014 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Tgem, I just noticed you reached 1111 posts.

Congrats! Lol.

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posted March 15, 2014 08:40 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Wow..on the anniversary of our 1st meeting...happy anniversary to me..yeah ...sigh....

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Aww

posted March 15, 2014 08:54 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Ha! Yeah my 5th house is split between Libra and Scorpio with Pluto and Uranus in it, Juno in the 8th, and merc, venus, mars, Uranus, neptune, and MC all aspecting Pluto.

Give me some of that tall, dark and handsome...and not just physically

Or maybe it has to do with my Draco sun and moon being Scorpio?? Hmmmm....

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Wow my Draco Moon is in Scorpio too.

What degree is yours at?

posted March 15, 2014 08:56 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Don`t.
If you do the cycle wil repeat itself over and over again, and you will find yourself at the exact same point and have to go through it again.

Try to endure the ache, the pain, the longing.
It is part of your heart chakra activation. It is part of your love. it actually shows the depth of your love.

It will fade again, not the love, the pain I mean.
Isn`t he worth it to go through it?
Would your life be better without having known him?

Seriously, if the answer is YES, I am going to doubt he is your tf.

OF course it freaking hurts me, too. But call me a masochist, at the same time I marvel at it.

Well, I always decided to block out the pain, rationalize it all away, seeing him never again.
But to be honest I feel so much more at peace since I stopped doing that (in the grand at least - of course there ar emoments, or days when I push him away).
And through it all I know for a fact that my life is so much more worthwile because he touched it, even through the insecurities, doubts, sadness and ache.
It`s worth it. Every step of the way.

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I just needed to read that again.

posted March 15, 2014 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Wow my Draco Moon is in Scorpio too.

What degree is yours at?

Mine's at 20°

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posted March 15, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Aww

Happy aniversary to the both of you

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posted March 15, 2014 09:17 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
Draco Scorpio stellium:
Sun 12'23
Moon 27'54
Chiron 0'55

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My natal IC widely-conjuncts your Dr. Asc by 4°
My natal Jupiter conjuncts your Dr. Sun by 2°
My natal Juno conjuncts your Dr. Chiron 0°05