posted January 31, 2014 02:04 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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As for the balancing point, I would keep an eye on 15 Scorpio-Taurus (maybe also Aquarius-Leo).
it is not ripe for conclusions yet, but midpoints tend to concentrate the energy of both points in the midpoints. Just imagine how powerful it would be with the SGC and GC.
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posted January 31, 2014 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For me Pholus indeed has been very significant.

I mentioned that man I used to think of as my twinflame; granted much of it was just fantasy and imagination of a 15 year old, not even caring for the fact that first of all he was a performer (do I detect a theme? lol), and had basically disappeared from the face of the earth. No internet these days. no clue if he was even still alive. Never even seen him to begin with, just heard his voice, saw his photo, and bam! Something just took over.
Fantasy, yes, mostly, probably.

But at the same time my spiritual awakening started, my interest for astrology became that passion it is now, meditations, bouts of telepathy, astral travels, I slowly remembered that I always had the capcity as a child, and everything else. Oh and of course the month I discoverd him, I stumbled over Linda Goodman`s work. First time, and first time that the words twinsoul came to my consciousness, through various sources, also read an article in an old magazine; jupiter, about twinflames, astral travel and so on.

the realization that we were NOT meant to end up riding into the sunset happily together, became such a traumatic crashing down of every beliefsystem, that not only I was plunged into a dark night of the soul, but literally being brought to the edge of death.
Actually I think back then I was given a choice, and had I chosen to not take on this tremendous soul-pain, I would have died, lying there on the ground in my grandmother`s appartment, surrounded by her, my mother and father, who tried to stabilize me.
Later on it was not really talked that much about it, and well, I took it either for just a serious bout of dizziness or breakdown of the circulatory system (I would be having more bouts of these in the coming years, which I now take as a sign, that I wasn´t quite firmly embodied, but somehow my soul and spirit was always trying to stay in a different dimension than the physical one) or a nervous breakdown.
Maybe it was. I don´t know.
I could have died that night and the temptation was GREAT.

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Okay. Hang on. When was this? See, I think you and I are close-ish in age, and for me, it was age 19. I don't recall the exact date - my friends would, and it's jotted down somewhere - but it had to've been ... April. No - yes. April. Early April. 2001.

I ask because of the same sort of experience I had; my family wasn't there. I was at the university. But my friends had surrounded. All were metaphysically adept or inclined by that point, so it was quite the ordeal. I don't remember much. I honestly don't. Just leaving my body, panicking, shouting - though my lips weren't moving, and I couldn't speak - 'no! NO! No, not yet! Not yet!' I was alone. Somehow, which I also don't remember, my third soul sister's phone rang (from what she recalled) and it was my mobile phone number. (My actual phone was dead.) She said I said, 'help me. I need you. Help me,' and disconnected.

She called the sister of who'd become my first fiancé (and the prototypical Fauste, heh, Mark I), since she was my roommate at the time, and told her to drop what she was doing and go to the room.

She said she found me lying on my bed, completely unresponsive. I was staring at the ceiling. It's as if I were catatonic. She said she took my hand and told me that everyone would be here soon, and it'd be okay.

I 'awoke' or 'came to' - whatever you want to call it - to the smell of burning things: sage, mostly. A little eucalyptus, since we had some dried. My partner was in the kitchen, preparing these things.

Soul sister #3 and my to-be fiancé's sister were both holding my hand. SS3 (who'd go on to be the first Cathryn Fuller, too, the role having unconsciously been made for her), had her eyes closed and was mouthing something, VERY intently.

I blinked, she caught it, stopped, exhaled and said, 'welcome back, honey. We almost lost you.'

To this day, I have NO idea what happened. There are theories why, though.

Like you, he felt like my Twin, even though I was much more deeply in love with the man I couldn't be with due to circumstantial BS - we both remain accepting of that, grateful we taught each other true love. So with THIS man, I thought I felt it.

Maybe I did. I find it apt timing that I'd share this today; last night, with my husband, I broke down and began actually bawling - unheard of for me - realising how much of the pain from my first fiancé's abandoning me I STILL carry.

He unlocked a lot, you might say. Much of HA (and then HATAS, and now HATS) wouldn't be without him. He had many of the pieces of the Fauste puzzle.

But it wouldn't be until meeting my costar, a decade later, that it'd actually become complete.

I was young and inexperienced then. I don't think I realised the power of my thoughts. The intensity of my 'wanting to leave'. It gave us all a right scare.

Thank you, Ceri, for sharing yours. Needless to say, I'm glad we're here. 😉

posted January 31, 2014 02:15 PM              

Atlantis 16 Scorpio
Venus 15 Taurus

BTW can you please please check your ATlantis in composite or draco composite.

I only looked at the Newmans, nCuries, and my good friend and the love of her life (more that story really).

posted January 31, 2014 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by lifefullofwords:
Honestly, I don't believe in twinflames or soul mates. I think there's more than one person out there for everyone, assuming you're actually ready for a relationship. When it comes to synastry, of course some people have more powerful connections than others. But everyone is looking for someone different so it's hard to generalize about what does and doesn't work, it really depends on the couple. And sometimes what looks like weak synastry is expressed powerfully while other times amazing synastry is hardly felt. These things are quite unpredictable.

Tarot is a great way to confirm whether or not someone is going to play an important role in your life. I'd be sure to ask the deck a very specific question. Look for court cards (which frequently reflect other people in your life although sometimes they refer to you) and major arcana (because any time you see a bunch of them you're dealing with an area in your life that is highly significant). I find that certain people will be represented as the same court card or at least a court card of the same suit over and over again.

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Please don't misunderstand; soulmates and Twinflames are NOT about romantic love. It can simply be a component that is binding.

posted January 31, 2014 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Do you have any afflictions? Any squares or oppositions from Sun to Pluto?

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posted January 31, 2014 02:38 PM            

I'm in the process of doing a million charts to add something to the TF discussion , but I thought I'd ask since these degrees are specifically being mentioned. Other than the fixed cross with Chiron, the Nodes, and the Ascendant/Descendant axis, my chart only has conjunctions, sextiles and quintiles since all of my planets are in an 80 degree orb.

Indigo, I remember you saying something about the significance of not having any major afflictions in your chart. Isn't it an indication of being a Twin flame?

posted January 31, 2014 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I'd love to better understand the reason for this. It seems fairly common.

In the series, we actually had them meet when one went to speak at the funeral of the other's late fiancé. He was on the way to his complex when the plane crashed, and thus, he feels responsible somehow. (That's the 'public story', at least.) Instead, he's overwhelmed by the sense of recognition in the woman who was his fiancée. It's rather overwhelming for both of them, and so neither really acknowledge it. Instead, (since she's a physicist), he offers her a position at one of the tech companies he owns. She never considered leaving Oxford, but at this opportunity in California, does. It would be another decade before they'd see each other again, however. She's been made redundant in her position and instead is hired to the main complex. In the CEO's office. As his assistant. Times are tough, (2008), and she figures, it's a job. And they make it quite worth her while, salary-wise.

He sees her, one random Monday morning, rising from what's now her desk, to hand him a cup of coffee and paperwork for something. (He despises paperwork. Never does it. Ever.) He blinks at her, looks at the oversize mug he has in his other hand, then back at her: 'what are you doing here?' Surprised, but not exactly happy.

In that decade, he's learnt to at least try and deal with the way she affected him at first brush. As usual, he runs from his feelings and anyone else. He's a loner; that's just his thing. Nobody had made him feel like that - or even really feel at all. He's a one-night-stands, and no-real-friends kinda guy. (His mentor is a crotchety Gregory House-type, so, no love there.)

So, without her realising it, she's just unintentionally wrecked his entire life. She kind of knows it, too.

She shows him the paperwork; he raises a dismissive hand. 'I don't do paperwork.' Then he takes a sip of his coffee and disappears into his office, closing the door behind him. She's left a little stunned, and very offended. She makes to give him an earful regarding his horrible manners - and he won't open the door. Instead she hears a buzz from the desk. 'Hold all my calls.'

This was officially his means of accepting her as his assistant.

The relationship with my Twinflame, while clearly different, has carried this tone throughout.

We wrote that together, entirely improvisationally, in 2006, at the beginning of my second biggest project, the one I've since shelved for ... reasons ... and to return to completing the one that came a decade before it.

I can concur, mightily, with the statement that they return us to our true selves. He certainly did me. He, on the other hand, couldn't take it, and the character he created was a perfect, almost too obvious representation of that.

At the time, we'd had no idea what we were writing was a 'reunifying of many Twinflames' story, or that I'd stumble into so many others - like Mel and Nichole. All we knew was that we loved each other more than anything, and for many separate reasons, would never be able to make it work.

So, 2012, we began to throw ourselves into developing the story into a TV series. The feelings were too strong - ARE too strong. Like Lane and his avoidance, he takes the 'I'm sorry, were you talking? I'm not listening,' cutting, brutal, snarky approach. I finally begun to take the, 'you can't do that to me!' stance, and in his rare moments of clarity he'd admit that the thought of losing me is greater than the potential joy of having any time together at all.

Lane did, after all, suddenly realise the intense love he always felt for Fiona only after he'd failed to protect her, and she lay dying.

Oops! Spoiler.

Well, kinda. 😉

I remember thinking then that this man had something deeply locked away and buried that he wouldn't allow anyone to know or see. It inspired me to try. That was 2007.

We have an exact conjunction of SHERLOCK (5049) and IRENEADLER (46722), for those who know the story. On my MOON-URANUS and his SATURN-KARMA-SNODE. Scorpio.

I never pushed THAT hard, but there were times I did. Times I tried to make up for his dooming us both to the perpetual inbetween. So that his fears would realise what he most hated: being alone.

Anyway. It's a LONG story.

An interesting highlight was when we 'met' for the 'first time' as I was passing through his city with my husband and stepdaughter. It was only 2 hours, but for us, it both felt like many more - and not at all. He'd later confess that seeing me for only 2 hours was worse, so we haven't. That was 2012. January. The beginning of the year we REALLY tried to make it work, and both failed.

While there at dinner, I suddenly had the thought, and said aloud, 'this place is amazing. I'm so glad we can come back tomorrow.'

And I saw it. In my mind's eye. It was around 2PM, lunch time, and he was wearing his usual blazer with a different shirt. I was in my 'If you don't think, you shouldn't talk,' Mad Hatter's tea party baby-tee. Not what either of us were wearing then.

He followed along, 'yeah, there's a really great chicken curry that I thought is amazing, but not AS amazing as the thing you got right now.' (It was an Indian restaurant. We'd accidentally pose before a tapestry of Shiva and Shakti before leaving.)

Then it hit him. It was already hitting me. 'Oh, you're not going to be here.' He laughed, but it was mirthless.

For a second there, we were flat somewhere else. On another timeline. A different eigenstate.

That's happened before with us, too. I wouldn't know it until another year had passed, though. The first time we failed to meet. In 2008.

Anyhow. I really, really digress.

I did rediscover my true self, and it changed my life. But it's been too hard for him to do the same. He's angry with himself but also me. For the whole thing. For my existing, and not being with him, even though he never truly gave me a chance to.

Okay. I'm putting away the world's smallest violin now. Onward we go. 😉

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posted January 31, 2014 02:50 PM              

Comp. Moon: Leo 13°
Comp. Mars: Leo 13°
Comp. his name: Leo 16°

Dav. Moon: Aqua 14°
Dav. Venus: Aqua 15°
Dav. Saturn: Aqua 12°
Dav Mars is just a little farther away: Aqua 9°53

In my natal:

NN: Scorpio 17°
Nameasteroid: Taurus 18°
Asc: Leo 13°
DNA: Leo 13°

In his natal:

posted January 31, 2014 02:53 PM              

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Originally posted by tgem:
I don't think I agree with the idea of TF's not having any major afflictions. Even if, let's say, I determined that my guy isn't my real TF..I still believe and have been told I am a TF and my sun especially is afflicted.

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posted January 31, 2014 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
lol I just checked the composite of Robert Browning and Elizabeth Barrett Browning:

Atlantis 16 Scorpio
Venus 15 Taurus

BTW can you please please check your ATlantis in composite or draco composite.

I only looked at the Newmans, nCuries, and my good friend and the love of her life (more that story really).

In each and every case Atlantis landed either on the GC, SGC or Scorpio-Taurus-axis usually conjoined something else, angle, Vertex, node or Sun or Moon.

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I think I already posted in this thread that our Composite Atlantis is on Libra 2.26, conjunct my Sun and Angel, and his Karma.

Not that I believe in twin flames, or that he is my twin flame

posted January 31, 2014 03:07 PM            

Composite Atlantis is sextile composite GC by 3 (wide, I know.)

posted January 31, 2014 03:10 PM            

I'm a bit thick today, so can you clarify for me what you mean by "bridging aspects" between the tropical, Draco, and helio charts?

posted January 31, 2014 04:38 PM            

For example, in the regular Composite, we have:

Venus conjunct Uranus
Mercury opposite Jupiter

But in the Draconic Composite, it is:

Venus opposite Uranus
Mercury conjunct Jupiter

I'm also noticing similar reversals in some of the other charts, though, e.g. we have Venus opposite Chiron in helio Composite and Venus conjunct Chiron in helio Davison.

posted January 31, 2014 04:58 PM              

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Ceri,

I'm a bit thick today, so can you clarify for me what you mean by "bridging aspects" between the tropical, Draco, and helio charts?

Are you saying they have to be the same aspects in all 3, e.g. Venus conjunct Moon, or just that a pattern involving the same planets need to be there, or ???

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bridging aspects: conjunctions from one dimension to the other (also oppositions)

like Draco Sun conjunct Helio Venus conjunct tropical Pluto for example

Of course it can also exist only between two of these charts

posted January 31, 2014 04:59 PM              

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Is this a typical pattern, i.e. will it always happen, that if in a Composite two planets are conjunct, they will be in opposition in a Draconic Composite?

For example, in the regular Composite, we have:

Venus conjunct Uranus
Mercury opposite Jupiter

But in the Draconic Composite, it is:

Venus opposite Uranus
Mercury conjunct Jupiter

I'm also noticing similar reversals in some of the other charts, though, e.g. we have Venus opposite Chiron in helio Composite and Venus conjunct Chiron in helio Davison.

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Yes it is. The aspect-gestalt will stay the same.

posted January 31, 2014 05:02 PM              

My Personal opinion:

"Our composite venus/Chiron conjunction is exactly opposite our composite Atlantis."
Very significant.

"Composite Atlantis is sextile composite GC by 3 (wide, I know.)"
Not so significant. If other aspects than conjunction and opposition are considered, they will have to be partile.

Otherwise every composite will have some connection to the GC or SGC

posted January 31, 2014 05:03 PM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Me or Indigo?

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Indigo.

posted January 31, 2014 05:04 PM              

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What is the significance of having Scorpio sun, Taurus Chiron, Aquarius Ascendant and South Node(12th), and Leo Descendant and North Node(6th)? The degrees range from 13.32 to 18.02. I also have many prominent midpoints and asteroids on my sun. Also, Jupiter is on the Super Galactic center, my Draconic Ascendant is also at that point.

I'm in the process of doing a million charts to add something to the TF discussion , but I thought I'd ask since these degrees are specifically being mentioned. Other than the fixed cross with Chiron, the Nodes, and the Ascendant/Descendant axis, my chart only has conjunctions, sextiles and quintiles since all of my planets are in an 80 degree orb.

Indigo, I remember you saying something about the significance of not having any major afflictions in your chart. Isn't it an indication of being a Twin flame?

Anyone have any thoughts about what this means?

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