posted January 28, 2014 04:17 PM            

Two have been able to determine, via astrology, markers which indicate a Twin Flame connexion. Several others remain outstanding.

We've shared, laughed, cried, cursed aloud, and been a small support network for a very bizarre circumstance. It continues to unfold everyday.

Come join us if you too have questions and are seeking answers, and have been looking for a safe, intelligent space to ask those questions and contemplate their answers.

Forthcoming will be complete posts and a 'sister forum' on my personal website detailing what we've found so far, and where we're going.

TWIN FLAMES and SOULMATES share similar markers in composite and synastry, which is why certain features are proving essential for proper analysis.

PRESENTLY, we've found ...

• Certain FIXED STAR placements will be prominent.

• Along with the Galactic Centre, (25º50 - 27º01 SAG, depending) and possibly Super Galactic Centre (02º LIB) and the Great Attractor (15º SAG).

(For greater accuracy, please review the ephemeris here: http://www.horary.com/hhcrl/gc_ephem.html )

• The VERTICES AXIS is important in both, with exact aspects being more prevalent among Twin Flames.

• A TIGHTLY CONDENSED GEO-TROPICAL COMPOSITE and or STRONGLY REPRESENTED 1H may be a key to 'a journey of convergence'. More typically, HIGHLY REPRESENTED 7H tends to feature.

• ASTEROIDS OF SOULMATE PAIRINGS tend to be prominent:

• ISIS and OSIRIS
• EROS and PSYCHE
• KAALI and RUDRA
• SIVA and PARVAT
• PLUTO and PERSEPHONE / PROSERPINA

and forming planetary patterns with standard love asteroids:

• JUNO, AMOR, VALENTINE, APHRODITE

those representing fate and karma and soul connexions:

• KARMA | DESTINN | ALMA | ANGEL |

and astral travel and spirituality:

• AURA | SPIRIT | ANUBIS | REIKI

• There is strong evidence that ATLANTEAN LIFETIMES play a role, and thus ATLANTIS figures prominently in natal, synastry, and composite across various systems.

• A MIRRORING EFFECT is noted with shared similarities, planetary and aspect affinities, between both natals in GEO-TROPICAL.

• STRONG PATTERNS and CONFIGURATIONS in HELIO-TROPICAL SYNASTRY and COMPOSITE, often showing purpose for GEO-TROPICAL placements.

• Most should be EXACT aspects, with MIDPOINTS tight, and not to exceed an orb of 3º. (Again, most aspects will be within 0º00-1º25, but secondary or 'backup' placements which denote a theme may be wider.)

posted January 28, 2014 04:37 PM              

I know mine. I just know. You just know it when you find em.

Synastry : sun conjunct Venus, twice - his sun, my venus, my sun, his venus

my moon is on his NN

Neptune conjunct Saturn

"Karma" asteroid does some weird stuff, both ways

Vertex stuff

posted January 28, 2014 04:59 PM            

For whatever it's worth, the person I'm with now, who certainly qualifies as a soul mate, although I think I have many soul mates:

My Sun and Angel, our composite Atlantis, and his Karma are all conjunct within less than 30 minutes of 2 Libra. His Saturn sextiles that point, and his Juno and Siva square it, exactly.

No 26-27 Sag action though.

posted January 28, 2014 05:18 PM            

My DSC is 27' Sagittarius, if that means anything. I haven't experienced synastry in which anything touched my DSC.. yet.

posted January 28, 2014 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
Twinflame to me is like the concept of soulmates, only on steroids, and there's only one of them.

I know mine. I just know. You just know it when you find em.

Synastry : sun conjunct Venus, twice - his sun, my venus, my sun, his venus

my moon is on his NN

Neptune conjunct Saturn

"Karma" asteroid does some weird stuff, both ways

Vertex stuff

Neither the Libra or Sag points do anything, no.

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Thanks for your input, IMTF. I have to say your case study seems more like soul mates to me, to be honest. The 'soul mates on steroids' and 'you just know' sounds too much like romantic love - with all due respect. For example, KARMA links, and SUN-VENUS DW conjunction is something I've found in many soul mate synastries.

SATURN / NEPTUNE links, again, soul mates. Typically indicating serious karma in need of balancing.

VERTICES - absolutely. Especially close conjunctions along the axes. That's something I've seen which tends to be distinct to Twinflames.

NODAL LINKS: Depends, but definitely seen in soul mates. Tight NNODE conjunctions are clearly indicative of a significant soul connexion in the present, regardless.

You say KARMA is doing 'weird stuff both ways'. How so?

posted January 28, 2014 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Interesting thread.

My DSC is 27' Sagittarius, if that means anything. I haven't experienced synastry in which anything touched my DSC.. yet.

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Thanks. And, yes, it does. Having your DSC conjunct the Galactic Centre inclines me to think you've got a tremendous potential there; a 'built-in' drive or ability for deeply transformative relationships.

posted January 28, 2014 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
I don't know much, if anything, about TwinFlames. To be honest, it seems to be a newish phenomenon (fad?) that I don't recall reading/hearing about 30 some years ago when I first dabbled in astrology. (Yes, I'm ancient...)

For whatever it's worth, the person I'm with now, who certainly qualifies as a soul mate, although I think I have many soul mates:

My Sun and Angel, our composite Atlantis, and his Karma are all conjunct within less than 30 minutes of 2 Libra. His Saturn sextiles that point, and his Juno and Siva square it, exactly.

No 26-27 Sag action though.

Edit: We also have standard synastry aspects, like my Venus trine his Sun and a Sun/Saturn double whammy.

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I think it's always been called many things, but it is more linked to the Indigo sorts of things. I find it intriguing, and have personal experience that's inclined me to think beyond mere coincidence or chance. Too eerie, in other words. 30 years? Oh, wow. This year will be my 25th. I can hardly believe that. I bet you have a wealth of information you've amassed.

SUN, ANGEL, KARMA, AND c-ATLANTIS on the SGC? Wow! That's a very specific karma and purpose, indeed. The two of you are here as part of something greater; you don't have THOSE kinds of linkages - and ON a degree like 2° LIB without being 'tasked' in some form. (My SATURN's there.)

And SUN-SATURN DW will certainly bind you, won't it? Heh. Good or ill. In your case, I've no doubt for a reason of some sort.

posted January 28, 2014 07:35 PM              

My mercury is 27 Sag conjunct his Spirit asteroid at 28 Sag, and opposite his Venus at 24 Gemini

Idk if it's even a significant asteroid, but I have natal Spirit conjunct Sun, opposite his Sun-Jupiter and conjunct his Saturn all under 2 degrees

My Venus conjunct his NN and Destinn 1-2 degrees

Composite Kaali conjunct Sun exact

Composite Union conjunct Pluto exact

His birth time might be slightly off (within half an hour) so I hesitate to consider certain aspects, but according to the time he has, his Vertex-Amor conjuncts my Asc 1 degree, my Vertex and moon conjunct his Sun-Moon midpoint 2 degrees. Composite vertex conjunct Karma and Dsc 2-4 degrees

There's some interesting draco-natal and harmonics synastry too, but that gets to be a little overwhelming lol. Anyway, it hasn't been possible for us to have a traditional relationship and it's been off and on (very much off for a while now). But my instincts tell me there's more to be experienced together. Basically all of our conversations were about spirituality, life forms, "conspiracy theories", consciousness, etc. He has invention ideas for various things such as forms of renewable energy, I have ways of helping him. He encouraged my own interest in astronomy, research, etc. So idk even he has said we came together for a larger purpose and are supposed to help each other figure it out and "accomplish something together". Although who knows if that'll actually manifest.. And of course it could've just been a soul mate connection that I can't seem to forget about lol

posted January 28, 2014 08:12 PM            

The notion of twinflame was something I was perfectly prepared to go on living the rest of my life ignoring but I noticed a funny thing happening to me. The further I got into my own spiritual studies and working on myself, the more I felt drawn to this "other" person who I knew would if not complete the story, at least shed light on the answers that I can't fully know alone.
I used to dream of him. I have my whole life long, and his face was always kept from me, but I could see certain features.

To keep this from turning into a giant book, I wanted to add that someone from the past has come back into my life. It was not expected and quite disruptive. The past relationship we did have was very intense, thought rather short. By my standards. After the break up, he moved away immediately and I never heard a word about him until recently. We found out that our lives have taken a similar journey to such and extent that it really bends the mind to wrap around it. I don't want to jump on a band wagon, so I cannot for certain say this person IS my twinflame, but I would like to participate in finding out, along with you other fine people who I am sure are in the same boat.

We have NN in 12th in composite. Much on the axis.

*27 degrees in Sag, in synastry.

*2 degree libra in composite.

This relationship has been painful in that the feeling of things missed out on, and can never be fulfilled (like having children) seems to come up every so often. We go from joy to pain. I'm not sure how things will end. If feel they can never end.

Thanks for listening.

posted January 28, 2014 08:25 PM              

Composite NN 27 degrees sag..
Composite Asc 2 degrees Libra

posted January 28, 2014 08:40 PM              

YES!
I feel the same way.
It seems that these days whenever someone experiences a new connection with someone that they feel is a coul connection, they want it to fit or try to fit it into the TwinFlame connotation because apparently its the "new IN-thing right now"...
I'm not saying that everyone does this, and nor am I saying that those who label their connections as a twinflame isn't one neccessarily.
But some people just like to follow trends is all... Lol.

These days more and more people are in for awakenings and the best tool to awaken a person would be to experience a connection through another, but that doesn't neccessarily mean that you are meant to be with this person or that they are your twin flame (though it can, in my case it it happened to be my twinflame.)

Its also possible that one experiences several "heart connections" or "soul connections" prior to meeting their TF, to get you to do the work so you can be ready.
The universe will put these connections before you to get your attention so that you can begin doing some soul work.

posted January 28, 2014 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
"Twinflames, to me, are simply too important to be mired in otherwise basic objectives. I can't reasonably fathom why any universal or spiritual intelligence would bother with directing or assisting individuals solely here to 'fall in love and procreate'. So, for me, it's NOT about romantic love, even if that CAN be an accompanying emotion. It's rather about sweeping changes, shifting consciousness, and ushering in new paradigms on a global, even transdimensional scale. Big, big stuff."

YES!
I feel the same way.
It seems that these days whenever someone experiences a new connection with someone that they feel is a coul connection, they want it to fit or try to fit it into the TwinFlame connotation because apparently its the "new IN-thing right now"...
I'm not saying that everyone does this, and nor am I saying that those who label their connections as a twinflame isn't one neccessarily.
But some people just like to follow trends is all... Lol.

These days more and more people are in for awakenings and the best tool to awaken a person would be to experience a connection through another, but that doesn't neccessarily mean that you are meant to be with this person or that they are your twin flame (though it can, in my case it it happened to be my twinflame.)

Its also possible that one experiences several "heart connections" or "soul connections" prior to meeting their TF, to get you to do the work so you can be ready.
The universe will put these connections before you to get your attention so that you can begin doing some soul work.

But again, not everyone has a twin flame because not everyone on this earth plane is a GRADUATE soul.
A graduate soul has experience several lifetimes and played every role, they've been in all sorts of relationships in those lifetimes and have learned and experienced all that it has needed ~ and now they have come back as TwinFlames, a one soul-being in two bodies.
They are here to be a new template of love and relationships/unions, to help in shifting the paradigm and clear out their ancestral/cultural energetic patterns, dysfuctions and belief systems.
Its what they signed up for because they are the ones who can bring in this change.

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Okay. You said the 'G' word. I know we're on the same page. 😊

I'd love to see your synastry and composite, Crystal, because I'm trying to expand my view from what's become very narrow. I'll explain.

Learning my role in all of this fairly recently, I had one single dream of such incredible vividness that it's remained, to me, The Day It All Changed.

I was, in short, being initiated into some sort of - I hesitate to use 'hive mind' - it wasn't that. Not the Borg. 😉 But it was a very unified society, and I was thinking I was to going to return to my old life - but when connected to this 'All That Is'- type energy, like an Akashic record - I knew that EVERYTHING would change. And it was VERY overwhelming.

I awoke not sure what to think. I was rather stunned. It took a few days to process. I was correct, though: everything changed that day, there-around my birthday (the exact day recorded).

It was almost like feeling the 'red ribbon of Fate'; I could 'see' it connecting people, things; destinies. And SO much became clear.

At any rate, many answers begun to come to me in rapid-fire. They'd just ... come.

Some of those confirmed certain very eerie things that expressed to me my former importance in Atlantis, and my present significance as a Twinflame (part of a former Graduate soul).

It was frightening. Daunting.

It's not like the whole 'find your soul mate and live happily ever after', thing. Ohhhh, no, no, no.

There's a responsibility. You're PART of SOMETHING. Something BIG.

So, I've just been trying to prepare myself for it, to be honest. And I've come to see, as an astrologer, where I've been correct in identifying other Twinflames, (staggering, in some ways) but - BUT - now I'm wondering ...

These individuals have ALL proven to share an intense soul connexion. People from all over the world who bonded over a common theme - being creatives telling a story about (little we knew at the time) Graduate souls and the resulting Twinflames. Various age, race, culture, and creed.

And yet we are ALL on this very powerful, very special 'network'. And our natals, synastries, and composites show this common bond; I dare call it a signature.

That led to my falling into my old debunking habits. If it wasn't as I expected, I'd nix it out of hand. Yes, that was wrong. It was lacking compassion, and I should know better. I'm a leader. I need to lead by example.

So now, I'm contemplating the greater likelihood that other Twinflames have their own 'signature'. I belong to one specific group of 24 souls who have come here, and resonate to the Graduate theory's ideals - WITHOUT even KNOWING of it. Instead by dreaming, independent innovation, and spiritual channeling.

At present, I have 'collected' 14 of us. That's pretty remarkable, considering it's just since 2005. Actively. 6 of those were already in my life - 2 since birth.

But I'd rather not wax ecstatic.

I'd rather learn about what these other signatures might be.

Bear in mind, this is an issue of certain gravity to me. It's nothing a bit to do with soul mates, while some of those Twinflames are certainly my soul mates. It's a very connected, tightly bonded group. Some are involved in romantic relations - some with their Twins, several who are not.

So as long as we can remember what it's ABOUT, so to speak, and what it's NOT, I feel we all have a tremendous potential to learn how, as astrologers, we can identify these unique signatures borne by these Graduate groups.

Okay, those are my blathering, racing thoughts. Heh.

I'm thinking, off-hand, that the Galactic Centre and Super Galactic Centre figure for these reasons. I've also seen that to be the case - repeatedly - with Twinflames, but not those who are strictly soul mates.

Again, I fear it's a 'trendy' thing at present to confuse Twinflames with soul mates, too. Drives me a little batty, to be honest.

Soul mates make our world turn. They make our hearts soar. They bring purpose to our lives. They teach us brilliant, beautiful, hard lessons, and can share peace, harmony, and beauty with us when 'school is out'.

Your Twinflame ... it's hard to articulate that. I hesitate to call it a relationship. To me, it's a state of being. Love it or hate it, you're stuck - but, good God, if there isn't a bizarre sense of forgiveness - an endless reservoir of it. Thankfully - because you're stuck.

I've told him I love him, a few times actually, and finally. But I don't know a human word for it. I feel that if I could crawl inside of his skin and rest within his heart, I would feel a blissful calm. I've tried to achieve this state through sex or mere physical touch. But it's too overpowering for either of us. And the circumstances for a traditional romantic relationship will never come to pass. We've both been informed by more than a few forces of the universe that we're stuck with each other, and all we can do is love - totally, selflessly, without will or design.

I married a soulmate - companion soul, actually. Another which I find VERY hard to define, I'm blessed to call my lover now, after so much learning and growing - all three of us. He was there in the background as I went through the hard lessons with my Twinflame, which would bring us to this state of present understanding.

But there was too much that still needed to be done. Things I'd abandoned for one reason or another which HAD to be resolved FIRST. That's what I'm doing now. My Twin and I got to a place that will allow us to stay connected while still growing in separate directions, until we're ready to Do The Thing. Whatever that is.

But I THINK that's why Twinflames often confuse their feelings with romantic love. With sexual desire. Not that it isn't - per se - but it's the closest earthly feeling I think we can connect it to.

I can't live without my Twin. I can't. Terrified me to say that - to realise that. The obligation I have to my life; to my husband, my family, my lover, my friends. The rest of US.

Is it because he fills me with such joy? No. My husband does. My lover does. My family does; my friends do. Yes, my Twin makes me inexplicably happy. His existence fills me with a state of 'okayness'. He feels the same way. We're both very private people, so will have to 'ping' each other to make sure the other's there. THEN - we're okay.

I don't know how I'd move past the moment in which he's not there to 'ping'. If he left before we did The Thing. If our purpose was failed to be fulfilled. It's a horrible, dark, empty feeling. Like being unable to progress in time. Staring at a ceiling, stuck in a moment.

Those of you who are fellow Graduates, who have forged a connexion with their Twinflame can probably resonate with that bizarre feeling. It's ALL very difficult to articulate.

But the connexion with your Twinflame is not a relationship. It just IS. Maybe a relationship becomes part of it. But alone, it simply IS.

It never became so clear to me as when I wanted it to not be true; desperately hoped somehow, in some way, I could have my lover be my Twinflame instead. WE embody the principles of love above conflict; love despite societal condemnation. Love on a shifting consciousness. Love for the sake of love.

Oh, if only my Twin and I were ready for that!

I awakened, and he hasn't yet. My lover is helping me with this awakening, as are the rest on 'the network'.

But ... not my Twin. Not yet.

There was a single moment I could no longer run from it. 27 October, as the t-NNODE hit his n-PLUTO, my n-KARMA, and my lover's n-SNODE. We were together for the first time, and I felt reborn.

In my elation, I thought - maybe I was wrong. Maybe he IS the one, and we can now prepare to do big, wonderful things. But then I caught myself in the mirror, and saw ...

... HIS smile.

It was astonishing. I'd never even noticed I have his smile. I do. He's 'the male me' (according to my husband's characterisation) and I have his smile.

It took me aback. I had to regroup. I was ... both saddened and grateful. So grateful. It was disheartening and difficult and even harder than before. But I felt gratitude.

Gratitude that I know. Gratitude that it's him. Gratitude that, somehow, we'll do what we're here to do. Just not for some time.

In the meanwhile, I'm learning, loving, and growing. Healing. He's healing, too. He's going to be healing for a long, long time.

But I'll be there, in the background. I can't NOT be. There isn't a place on earth, in this universe or across space or time that we can't be - or aren't.

We simply ARE.

Wow. What a mouthful. Guess I had to get that out there, huh?

Okay. Back to astrology.

posted January 28, 2014 10:23 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Idk what to think about the whole concept but I think it's possible I know mine... (I was actually told he's not my tf but it's just one if those things where that's my gut feeling astrology aside) I'm still learning about asteroids but they really do offer some fascinating insights.. Aside from typical romantic/binding synastry these aspects stand out to me..

My mercury is 27 Sag conjunct his Spirit asteroid at 28 Sag, and opposite his Venus at 24 Gemini

Idk if it's even a significant asteroid, but I have natal Spirit conjunct Sun, opposite his Sun-Jupiter and conjunct his Saturn all under 2 degrees

My Venus conjunct his NN and Destinn 1-2 degrees

Composite Kaali conjunct Sun exact

Composite Union conjunct Pluto exact

His birth time might be slightly off (within half an hour) so I hesitate to consider certain aspects, but according to the time he has, his Vertex-Amor conjuncts my Asc 1 degree, my Vertex and moon conjunct his Sun-Moon midpoint 2 degrees. Composite vertex conjunct Karma and Dsc 2-4 degrees

There's some interesting draco-natal and harmonics synastry too, but that gets to be a little overwhelming lol. Anyway, it hasn't been possible for us to have a traditional relationship and it's been off and on (very much off for a while now). But my instincts tell me there's more to be experienced together. Basically all of our conversations were about spirituality, life forms, "conspiracy theories", consciousness, etc. He has invention ideas for various things such as forms of renewable energy, I have ways of helping him. He encouraged my own interest in astronomy, research, etc. So idk even he has said we came together for a larger purpose and are supposed to help each other figure it out and "accomplish something together". Although who knows if that'll actually manifest.. And of course it could've just been a soul mate connection that I can't seem to forget about lol

I'm curious what's the theory behind twinsouls vs. twinflames? I've heard the term but don't fully understand the difference...

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The involvement of SPIRIT on the GC is definitely important; that your MERCURY and his VENUS are widely playing along that axis gives that some real dynamism, too. And SPIRIT being on your SUN.

I'm very curious about ASC-VX, too, as we have it as a DW. Didn't realise it until YEARS later, when he got his correct birth time. Made so much sense, too.

Certain soulmates prepare us for a Twinflame, if we are one. I think 'twin souls' is a great term to describe those soulmates who are clearly from our immediate soul family - might even have come into being the moment we did. We always have a strong sibling bond with these souls, even if our relations this time around are sexual. It's something which pervades. A sort of continual familiarity - as if we were siblings.

I'd be very interested to hear how all of that turns out. I know the pains and difficulty of being unable to have a 'traditional relationship'. A lot of us are here now, however, to learn how to go beyond such limiting concepts and innovate loving in a whole new, more liberating, unconventional and far less confining sort of way.

I can imagine URANUS to play a role there. While I've heard it's something of a kiss-of-death to most romantic composites - traditionally speaking - seems as if it'd figure prominently here. I know it has in my own research.

posted January 28, 2014 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
The notion of twinflame was something I was perfectly prepared to go on living the rest of my life ignoring but I noticed a funny thing happening to me. The further I got into my own spiritual studies and working on myself, the more I felt drawn to this "other" person who I knew would if not complete the story, at least shed light on the answers that I can't fully know alone.
I used to dream of him. I have my whole life long, and his face was always kept from me, but I could see certain features.

To keep this from turning into a giant book, I wanted to add that someone from the past has come back into my life. It was not expected and quite disruptive. The past relationship we did have was very intense, thought rather short. By my standards. After the break up, he moved away immediately and I never heard a word about him until recently. We found out that our lives have taken a similar journey to such and extent that it really bends the mind to wrap around it. I don't want to jump on a band wagon, so I cannot for certain say this person IS my twinflame, but I would like to participate in finding out, along with you other fine people who I am sure are in the same boat.

We have NN in 12th in composite. Much on the axis.

*27 degrees in Sag, in synastry.

*2 degree libra in composite.

This relationship has been painful in that the feeling of things missed out on, and can never be fulfilled (like having children) seems to come up every so often. We go from joy to pain. I'm not sure how things will end. If feel they can never end.

Thanks for listening.

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I can deeply feel you there, Gypsee. Deeply. Rest assured that with connexions that wield so much natural power (GC) and a shared 12H NNODE, you hit it on the head with 'if it can ever end'. These things haunt until completion: whether significant soulmate or a Twinflame.

What do you feel you've taken most from it? An intense pain, no doubt. But perhaps a greater power, too?

What's the point that's on the GC (27° SAG)?

posted January 28, 2014 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:

synastry.
Vertex conjunct my asc.
NN conjunct my dsc exact
Sn conjunct my Venus exact.
ASC conjunct DSC.
Eros Opp Psyche.

Composite NN 27 degrees sag..
Composite Asc 2 degrees Libra

Idk.. It seems like were not meant to be together... because life just throws us a curve ball every time.
but idk This person will always have a place in my heart, we have so much history and we grew up together. It's unconditional.
No one can ever come close lol.
I don't really use the concept because I don't need to feel like my love is more special than others lol

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I do know that feeling. But there's a kind of peace that can replace the yearning, too. I hesitate to use the term 'special'. It's not the 'love' that is 'more special' than any other 'love'. Love ITSELF is precious. Twinflames are ... tasked, I'd say. Volunteers with a select purpose. That purpose tends to involve love in some form - whether brotherly, romantic, familial, etc. But it's always universal.

I'd say those links there could go either way. The VX-ASC is one with which I'm VERY familiar. If you feel the two of you are 'here to do something together' then that's what really 'elevates' soulmates (not to seem elitist) to the obligated level of Twinflame.

posted January 28, 2014 10:48 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Thanks for your input, IMTF. I have to say your case study seems more like soul mates to me, to be honest. The 'soul mates on steroids' and 'you just know' sounds too much like romantic love - with all due respect. For example, KARMA links, and SUN-VENUS DW conjunction is something I've found in many soul mate synastries.

SATURN / NEPTUNE links, again, soul mates. Typically indicating serious karma in need of balancing.

VERTICES - absolutely. Especially close conjunctions along the axes. That's something I've seen which tends to be distinct to Twinflames.

NODAL LINKS: Depends, but definitely seen in soul mates. Tight NNODE conjunctions are clearly indicative of a significant soul connexion in the present, regardless.

You say KARMA is doing 'weird stuff both ways'. How so?

What would you say makes it a Twinflame, in your personal case?

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posted January 28, 2014 11:09 PM            

Can I join in :/

My idea of TF is more romantic theory like Romeo and Juliet.
That no matter what both people Want to be with each other, neither of them runs, or separates, or has any desire to do so.
But that they must overcome "something" to be together usually outside sources. Family, friends, life.. Etc
That both have to figure out Way to be together, this needs to be done together.

Idk where this is coming from, it's just my thoughts/opinion.. Lol

If TF exists I have not met him.
I do feel like I met a SM, or karma..
Because it's been a soul searching relationship, but we just can't make it work..
In astrology wise with this SM, we have just about everything in composite, dw in synastry, asteroid, vertex connections in some way or another, even some mirroring aspects. Even cross sun/mercury and asc in cross signs.
I wouldn't want this to be a TF... Lol

I have Pluto at 0libra
Jupiter at 28sag opps Venus

posted January 29, 2014 12:01 AM              

In a way I have stopped caring (too much). Still some analytical curiosity.
However in some way it seems just like a label to me, or being used as a label to find out the "best possible option", maybe even giving a certain guaranteee.

I have found that life doesn`t quite work that way.

Even though I think there is something to that concept, it *can* get just a lifeless brain-born concept, if the feeling is missing.

What to me personally is more important now, is the emotional experience in the Here nad Now. And I honestly do not care as much anymore if someone is a karmic mate, soulmate, crush, twinflame, twinray, twinsoul, whatever.

It is what it is.

Though having said that I heartily believe that not all sets of twinflames are the same and with the same "mission" on earth. Sometimes a mission might just be romantic love and procreation.
In the end there is nothing greater than love. And it is a wonderful thing to experience that this is enough. Just love.

I guess my own emotional development and experience keeps me too much on my toes to worry about these concepts anymore. lol
For some reason that compulsiion to know just disappeared after meeting Mr Sag.
I am not saying he is my twinflame or soulmate, actually you probably haven ever heard me saying anyone was my twinflame.

posted January 29, 2014 03:58 AM            

In this life we have also shared a profession, though at different times, and meeting him indirectly connected me to another former acquaintance who tried to get me to resume that line but that's a long story. Her birthday is three days from his but the same chinese year as mine. They both have sun on my Jupiter in 12h..

The charts are tricky, since the age he told me when we first met would give him one birth year. The one he gives out now is the year before! Both are pretty amazing but no birth time .. so I can only guess at the moons degrees but one is conj and the other trine. However one has the composite sun on SN. The other has NN on my karma. with asteroids both 27 sag and 2 libra come into play.

We live thousands of miles apart. I am not the type to dream of romance but all I can say is I have visits, and over the years I have had dreams of him...one v prophetic...which I wrote down at the time because they were vivid and forgot about only to come across since our last meetings while going through old journals during a clear out. I rarely think about him except when these things happen, or someone starts a thread like this! which I rarely even read.

I have no intention or desire to pursue this in this life but I will not be surprised if we meet again. .. or if we don't. The energy between us is too strong for this world unless something very fundamental changes. Our meetings do seem to precede major life changes...

I am not sure what you mean by Graduate souls. I am pretty sure we have all had several lives. Perhaps there are some people who havent', there are many who don't have recall for sure. I am also fairly sure that some souls are living several different lives simultaneously so the whole concept of twins is still a bit murky to me. Perhaps some of us are quintuplets?