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Topic: For all who are intrested in solstice points / Antiscia
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 06:09 AM
If you are interested, you can do your declinational equivalents here http://www.astrologyweekly.com/declination/index.php Just type your declination of a planet in (ex: 23°23 N - my Sun) and the convertor will calculate the longitudinal equivalent (26° Sagittarius). The second number is the solstice point of the first one (I only use the first though; because otherwise it gets confusing).
It`s really interesting. In the normal chart Moon is unaspected. In the LE (longitudinal equivalents) it`s conjunct Uranus and Juno and opposing Pluto, close to the declinational nodal axis (I think), and this Uranus-Pluto-colouring of my MOon definitely makes sense, since i have always been torn between the need to feel I belong somewhere, a need for passionate emotions and at the same time the urge for independency and detachment. Of course you can see that in the normal chart, too, since my Aquarius Moon is in the 2nd house, and the ruler of moon house is in Scorpio conjunct 11th cusp, and the old ruler (Saturn) is in Cancer in 8th house. IP: Logged |
EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 16, 2008 08:03 AM
"What I am seeing is that the l.e. chart will show where the native can handle squares and oppositions. It explains why some people do so well with miserable squares and manage to build and shine rather than give up in defeat , and why some people utilize trines so well , yet others just become lazy. I see ways "out" with the l.e.s."That is so cool...I'm going to have to check out my charts when I get home from work. Amazing! 8th
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 10:22 AM
Actually, after reading a bit more, you have to use both positions that astroweekly gives you. They are equally important, since every declinational positions has two equivalents in the zodiac / longitudes.Doing that it seems that Moon, Uranus and Juno are all tightly conjunct falling onto the NN, opposing Pluto on the SN. And Sun trines / sextiles it and Neptune squares it. Also, in the longitudes I don`t have strong Saturnian influence, as it is retograde, in Cancer in 8th house, almost unaspected. But in the equivalent chart it moves into the 7th house conjunct ASC and Vertex and opposing Mars. Definitely resonates with me. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 03:45 PM
I looked at the synastry of the declinational equivalent charts with two guys. (my planets first and orb is 3°)1st: Sun conjunct Sun Sun trine Pluto Sun conjunct Lilith Moon square Mars Moon square Neptune Moon conjunct juno] (0) Venus conjunct Mercury (0) Venus conjunct Jupiter Venus conjunct NN Venus trine Eros (0.00 ) Mars conjunct Venus (0) Mars opposite Saturn (0) - there had to be someone spoiling the fun *sighs* Mars conjunct AC (4) Mars trine IC Mars conjunct Antivertex (0) Saturn opposite Venus SAturn conjunct SN Saturn conjunct DC (0) Saturn opposite Destinn Uranus square Mars Uranus conjunct Juno (0) Neptune conjunct Mars Neptune opposite Saturn Npetune square Juno Pluto square Mars Pluto opposite Juno Pluto trine Lilith Pluto conjunct Psyche (3,5) NN conjunct Juno AC conjunct Venus DC conjunct Saturn AC conjunct AC DC conjunct Vertex AC conjunct Destinn Antivertex conjunct Mars Vertex conjunct DC (0) Antivertex conjunct Destinn Karma square Destinn Karma conjunct Eros (0) Destinn trine Venus Destinn opposite Mars Destinn square Pluto Juno square Saturn Juno conjunct Juno Psyche opposite Pluto Psyche conjunct Psyche Eros opposite Moon Eros opposite Karma (0.00 ) Eros trine Eros Lilith trine Moon (0) Lilith conjunct Uranus Lilith square AC Lilith trine Karma Lilith square Destinn Lilith opposite Eros EDIT:
There are some double whammies: Mars / Vertex Saturn / DC Pluto / Psyche Vertex / DC Karma / Eros IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 03:49 PM
And for the second guy: (my planets first)Sun conjunct Sun (0) Sun trine Mars (0) Sun square Karma (0) Sun square Eros (0) Sun trine Pluto Moon opposite Mars Moon conjunct SN (0) Moon opposite Lilith Mercury conjunct Venus Venus conjunct Venus Venus trine Pluto Venus square Destinn (0) Mars square Mars Mars trine Saturn Mars trine DC Mars conjunct Neptune Saturn trine AC Uranus conjunct SN (0) Uranus conjunct LIlith Neptune trine Juno Pluto trine Sun Pluto conjunct NN Pluto conjunct Lilith (0) Pluto trine LIlith SN conjunct Mars (0) SN conjunt Jupiter SN conjunct NN SN conjunct Lilith DC trine MOon AC square Mars AC trine Saturn DC trine Uranus (0) AC conjunct Neptune AC trine DC (0) DC tirne Karma Karma trine Venus Karma conjunct Pluto Karma square Destinn Destinn opposite Moon DEstinn trine Juno DEstinn square Lilith Juno opposite Mars Juno conjunct SN Juno opposite Lilith Psyche conjunct Psyche Eros trine Venus (0) Eros trine Pluto Lilith opposite pluto (0) EDIT: Doublewhammies between:
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 06:43 PM
Oh well, while I was looking through some synastries (declinational equivalents), I also came across the one with musicman again. I thought there would have to be something to explain the strong and lasting impact, he had on me.I found some very interesting connections: My Sun trine his Moon (0) my Sun trine his Venus my Sun trine his Juno My Moon opposite his Moon my Moon opposite his Venus my Moon conjunct his Jupiter (0) my Venus trine his Sun (0.00) my Venus square his Mars (0) my Venus trine his NN (0) my Mars opposite his Pluto my Saturn conjunct his Destinn my Uranus opposite his Venus my pluto conjunct his MOon my Pluto conjunct his Venus this indeed explains why I was so insanely drawn to him my NN conjunct his Jupiter my SN conjunct his Juno my DC conjunct his Pluto my Karma conjunct his Eros my Karma conjunct his Sun my Eros trine his Sun my Eros conjunct his NN (0) my juno opposite his Juno my Lilith opposite his Sun my Lilith opposite his Eros Double whammies: Sun / Venus Jupiter / Juno Uranus / Psyche Neptune / Psyche Eros / Lilith But the other interesting part is that his Karma seems to challenge almost everything in my chart:
square my Moon square my Uranus opposite my Neptune square my Pluto square my NN And his Pluto:
opposes my Mars opposes my Neptune squares my NN conjuncts my DC squares my Juno On top of that squares his Eros my Saturn and DSC. It surely explains some thing. IP: Logged |
bvanzy unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 08:15 PM
Darkdreamer,Can I just ask you to confirm the phraseology of working with solstice points. Say: Person A's Sun conjuncts Person B's Venus solstice point, what ways would that be phrased to indicate which person was doing what. ie. in the above case, which is correct.. A's Sun antiscion B's Venus? or A's Sun conjunct B's Venus antiscion?
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 08:31 PM
Probably the correct terminology w ould be: A`s Sun is conjunct the antiscion of B`s Venus. But you could also say A`s Sun is antiscion B`s Venus. I actually prefer the terminology PErson a`s Sun is solstice conjunct Person B`s Venus.But it`s all a matter of preference I guess. IP: Logged |
bvanzy unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 08:47 PM
Cheers.IP: Logged |
bvanzy unregistered
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posted August 16, 2008 09:39 PM
His natal Sun/Mercury/Venus contrascion my solstice Venus. (on the Libra/Aries axis)and My natal Venus contrascion his solstice Venus, solstice Sun and solstice Mercury. (on the Virgo/Pisces axis) My natal Moon contrascion his solstice Mars. (on the Libra/Aries axis)
and His natal Mars contrascion my solstice Moon. (on the Virgo/Pisces axis) If these two sets of solstice aspects weren't in different spots, you'd think they were the same aspects. They aren't the same aspects counted twice are they? Am I losing my mind? IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 17, 2008 11:29 AM
DD, It's not just a Venus/mars conjunction, it's a DW Venus mars!!!pretty funky! When I get my computer back I will do more IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 12, 2009 02:40 PM
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Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2009 04:33 PM
I guess astro.com does not calculate antiscia? IP: Logged |
Kismet* Knowflake Posts: 300 From: Venus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 23, 2009 11:32 PM
What if someone's antiscia of the sun conjuncts the ruler of my seventh house under 1 degree orb? Any ideas? IP: Logged |
soulful122 Knowflake Posts: 522 From: ←↓↑→ Registered: Jan 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 11:38 PM
.' * '.bump.' * '.Even though Leo and I don't seem to have NN conj anything in each other's natal charts.. the Solstice/Antiscia point shows the growth we both felt that didn't show up in our regular synastry. (Solstice to Natal) Me - Him My Solstice Mercury & Saturn conjs his natal NN My Solstice NN conj his natal Merc & Mars My Solstice Moon also conjs his natal Sun/Moon mp, and his Solstice Moon conjs my natal Sun/Moon mp ------------------ “If malice or envy were tangible and had a shape, it would be the shape of a boomerang.” — Charley Reese
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Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2232 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 12, 2011 09:44 PM
Epic thread. Would be a good idea if more people look into solstice points. ------------------ "Play it f*ckin' loud!" — Bob Dylan IP: Logged |
Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2232 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 07, 2011 08:18 AM
------------------ I am thankful for laughter, except when milk comes out of my nose. — Woody Allen IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24942 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 22, 2011 01:38 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 63502 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2012 09:55 AM
*bump*------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1768 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 17, 2012 12:42 PM
*bump*. This thread is amazing!!!IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 63502 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 18, 2012 10:36 AM
I might move it to Astrology 2.0 (thinking).------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1768 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 21, 2012 07:51 PM
^ Randall, I think that would make sense IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17631 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 10, 2014 03:21 PM
So you thought about doing an entire synastry with the solstice equivalents, Ceri. How would this be, the connections there? like a subtle underlying "shadow" merging? more like duads?Tell me more, please BTW, it would be nice to have this thread moved to Astrology 2.0 IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 63502 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 11, 2014 01:33 PM
There's so many here I could move there.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17631 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 25, 2014 03:11 PM
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