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I'm so cappy
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posted May 31, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're welcome, Cappy....Naaahh, I didn't mention those obvious aspects, I was sure you contemplated them every night before going to sleep

Oops, you got me

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I'm usually fond of Saturn to luminaries or at least angles

My Saturn sextile his ASC, his trine my MC, I just said that

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted May 31, 2014 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I didn't even want it, it's just happening. But that's probably for the better. It's a waste of energy and it can make me feel pathetic.


I hope you find a way to work this out. I won't think it's a waste of energy though, it shapes The Cappy that we love.

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IntuitiveJ
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posted May 31, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgot to add, birth time unknown for male on the outside.
Female birth time is correct
Thank you!

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 31, 2014 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Cappy that can only fall for a fantasy...But if you enjoy my insanity so much then I can keep flooding you with Chris posts

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 31, 2014 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
[IMG]http://i1374.photobucket.com/albums/ag429 /In tuitiveJ/Mobile%20Uploads/c1494bcc-258b-4f77-b066-b60f8c2b84f1_zps25eb2d7d.jpg[/IMG]

Would anyone be kind enough to tell me if they see any pattern in this synastry if I posted the link properly?
I am really new to this & cannot tell
Thank u!


Oh, yes, of course, IntuitiveJ, I'll check and get back to you.


But the way to approach pattern completion is through the natals, rather than the synastry.
You check the natals for any isolated aspect or incomplete pattern (such as the T-square) and then you compare it with the other's natal to see if he/she completes you.

For example, I have an Minor Triangle in my natal: Moon Neptune Mercury with a fourth planet needed in Aries for a Kite.

I also have a mutable T-square with a four missing leg (for the mutable cross to happen) in Gemini. Every time I do a comparison against my natal, I check those first, to see if someone brings me a fourth planet in Aries to give me a Kite and a fourth planet in Gemini for my T-square to become a Grand Cross. If someone brings both...well, I'll sure keep him somehow!

EDIT: sorry, I forgot about my Mercury...how weird is that? hahahaha

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I just love this Spaceship! (that doesn't mean you don't have to..you know, I won't say it) Cappy would scold me lol

It has:

Pholus conjunct Vertex on karmic houses: a fateful, life changing meeting on 2nd/8th axis

Moon conjunct Jupiter: very warm, happy, or at least expanded, with Jupiter in 1st and warm Taurus and Moon in her domicile. Jupiter is so protective of this Moon.

ASC conjunct NN in 9th - just like it happened

POF conjunct IC - another fateful meeting clue

Sunrise Eros/Priapus coming out of darkness with an Aries impetus conjunct Leo MC - a firey duty for MC

Pholus in 5th and Alma/Valentine in 4th falling in love

5th cusp activated by this feminine Moon born to be a woman in this life, in everything a woman is

A soulful meeting with the 11th involved

Maybe a little restriction here from this relational non-committal Saturn in Libra hiding in 12th for someone born to know a great love (Amor/POF in 10th)?

My AQUA MC – His SCORPIO Jupiter/Ceres in 12th
Jupiter/Ceres teaches Aqua MC how to be independent, sets it free

His CAP Karma/Destinn in 3rd – My SCORPIO Karma/Venus/Vesta in 6th
A Karmic meeting with a Gemini/Virgo vibe: look for Mercury as the clue

My CAP Saturn/ SAG Uranus in 8th – His SAG Uranus in 1st
Uranus with Saturn meets Uranus alone. Who wins?

His SAG Sun/Mercury in 2nd – My SAG Sun/Mercury in 7th
A great Sag union in everything there is Sag

My Psyche in 8th – His Juno/BML/Vesta on 2nd house cusp
No matter the outcome between you, time will only make him love you more

I really love this Spaceship for your synastry, Tulipe


Awww, Leeloo, thank you! I can't believe that loving interpretation ^^, but some of that resonate, at least the part about my feelings, and that Jupiter is protective of his Moon is spot on .

About this part, are we looking for aspects/signs/houses of Mercury in natal or in synastry?

His CAP Karma/Destinn in 3rd – My SCORPIO Karma/Venus/Vesta in 6th
A Karmic meeting with a Gemini/Virgo vibe: look for Mercury as the clue

I feel so warm up by the last part of your interpretation, blissfully unburdened somehow. I'm sure you'd understand .

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IntuitiveJ
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posted May 31, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, yes, of course, IntuitiveJ, I'll check and get back to you.


But the way to approach pattern completion is through the natals, rather than the synastry.
You check the natals for any isolated aspect or incomplete pattern (such as the T-square) and then you compare it with the other's natal to see if he/she completes you.

For example, I have an isolated trine in my natal: Moon trine Neptune, a widish one I'm quite fond of.

I also have a mutable T-square with a four missing leg (for the mutable cross to happen) in Gemini. Every time I do a comparison against my natal, I check those first, to see if someone brings me a third planet in Aries for my isolated trine to become a Grand Trine and a fourth planet in Gemini for my T-square to become a Grand Cross. If someone brings both...well, I'll sure keep him somehow!



Thank you so much!
I can only spot easy to see aspects right now but I will go back & check the natals & see what I can come up with!
Trying to post the synastry again with a better pic...argh!
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posted May 31, 2014 04:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, I do

Hehe, I hope I can eat your creations someday. I only like cooking when I do it well ^^, it depends on the actual dishes, not the cooking part of it.

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this feminine Moon born to be a woman in this life, in everything a woman is

You're sure I'm not a male in disguise? lol. Thank you, although I don't think I'm that great a woman, I still appreciate your admiration

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posted May 31, 2014 04:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy, yes, I think it's always good to let the process unfold by itself when it comes to crushing-decrushing

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posted May 31, 2014 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:

Thank you so much!
I can only spot easy to see aspects right now but I will go back & check the natals & see what I can come up with!
Trying to post the synastry again with a better pic...argh!
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Ok, thanks, it's an interesting one! I'll study it. If you find anything with natals, come back and show us the completion

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posted May 31, 2014 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]You're welcome, Cappy....Naaahh, I didn't mention those obvious aspects, I was sure you contemplated them every night before going to sleep

Oops, you got me

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I'm usually fond of Saturn to luminaries or at least angles

My Saturn sextile his ASC, his trine my MC, I just said that

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Oops, sorry...you're quite protective of your de-crush...Yep. I guess Saturn must be there after all

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posted May 31, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for posting another question- trying to get the hang of this...
If his saturn is 13 aqua & my sun/moon mp is 13 gem, we would need something at 13 libra to complete the pattern? Would my POF at 16 libra count or is that too far apart?

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
The Cappy that can only fall for a fantasy...But if you enjoy my insanity so much then I can keep flooding you with Chris posts


Nope, it means you choose with care. I like that . I can relate to how you must feel, believe me, you will fall for someone when the time is right for you. In the mean time, you can stalk any man you want, Cappy Queen. And the synastry is so strong, keep putting him out here for some examinations.

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Awww, Leeloo, thank you! I can't believe that loving interpretation ^^, but some of that resonate, at least the part about my feelings, and that Jupiter is protective of his Moon is spot on .

About this part, are we looking for aspects/signs/houses of Mercury in natal or in synastry?

[b]His CAP Karma/Destinn in 3rd – My SCORPIO Karma/Venus/Vesta in 6th
A Karmic meeting with a Gemini/Virgo vibe: look for Mercury as the clue

I feel so warm up by the last part of your interpretation, blissfully unburdened somehow. I'm sure you'd understand .


[/B]


I'm happy you like it, lovebird, I like the Spaceship I think I'd look for Mercury to Mercury in synastry for a final clue on this Karmic meeting, if there isn't any, your Mercury aspects or anything interesting there, maybe Mercury sabians too...cause I think Mercury is the common denominator of that Karma Karma connection, at least for me.

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posted May 31, 2014 05:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Sorry for posting another question- trying to get the hang of this...
If his saturn is 13 aqua & my sun/moon mp is 13 gem, we would need something at 13 libra to complete the pattern? Would my POF at 16 libra count or is that too far apart?


I wouldn't count a midpoint in patterns, apart from conjunction midpoints. First look for planets or asteroids or angles or nodes in the pattern completion. But theoretically, that trine is good as orb, and POF Saturn is a good fated connection, but you should have a planet/asteroid/angle in Gemini, IMO.

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posted May 31, 2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe someday I will fall for someone within my reach and maybe even for the real him, not the way I imagine him to be, but that might be not mutual. And even if it is, we still might not end up together. There aren't many men who would be compatible with me and I don't wanna play relationships in my 20s anyway so I have no expectations. You better wish me an interesting life and lots of cash

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Nope, it means you choose with care.

Now I do -_- I've been disappointed enough times.

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posted May 31, 2014 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Maybe someday I will fall for someone within my reach and maybe even for the real him, not the way I imagine him to be, but that might be not mutual. And even if it is, we still might not end up together. There aren't many men who would be compatible with me and I don't wanna play relationships in my 20s anyway so I have no expectations.


There are no guarantees in life, dear Cappy. It may be as you describe, or just the other way around. And it is a good thing not to have expectations in the sense that life can be an adventure, and it is, a journey full of...everything. But, yes, do have expectations for you to know and experience the best, because you deserve it in so many ways: you're a wonderful person and a beautiful, smart girl.

You better wish me an interesting life and lots of cash

this, I wish you this and...lots of love

Now that Granny Buzzkill showed her ugly rotten teeth, what's up, Cappyrella? Do I sense a shadow over you?

That's for you, shooo shadow go away


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posted May 31, 2014 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your isolated aspects or incomplete patterns, BTW?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm happy you like it, lovebird, I like the Spaceship I think I'd look for Mercury to Mercury in synastry for a final clue on this Karmic meeting, if there isn't any, your Mercury aspects or anything interesting there, maybe Mercury sabians too...cause I think Mercury is the common denominator of that Karma Karma connection, at least for me.

His Mercury sits on the apex of my T-square consist of Psyche in 8th at the apex and my BML-Ceres opposition in my 5th/11th houses.

My Mercury/Moira conjunct his BML/Juno/Vesta on his 2nd house cusp, quincunx his Moira/DSC. Oh, actually it's an exact Yod: My Mercury/Moira on his 2nd house cusp sextile his Pallas on my 6th house cusp, both quincunx his Moira/DSC.

A nurturing love debt on my part, a devoted partner on his part .

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posted May 31, 2014 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
[b]Sorry for posting another question- trying to get the hang of this...
If his saturn is 13 aqua & my sun/moon mp is 13 gem, we would need something at 13 libra to complete the pattern? Would my POF at 16 libra count or is that too far apart?


I wouldn't count a midpoint in patterns, apart from conjunction midpoints. First look for planets or asteroids or angles or nodes in the pattern completion. But theoretically, that trine is good as orb, and POF Saturn is a good fated connection, but you should have a planet/asteroid/angle in Gemini, IMO. [/B][/QUOTE]

His name is at 10 gem in my chart- does that count? :-)
Interestingly- my name in his chart conjuncts his sun/saturn (at 11 aqua) which then also trines MY name in my chart at 11 libra!
I don't see too many grand trines. The only other one I saw was my ceres at 1 gem, trine his vesta at 0 libra, trine my Asc at 1 aqua. Still looking tho. Trying to fig out what a t square is!

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posted May 31, 2014 05:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:

A nurturing love debt on my part, a devoted partner on his part .



That's interesting. And I wasn't too far off, because Mercury is integrated with Moira and a Yod, so it does have a fated meaning in your synastry.

Do you resonate with this?

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posted May 31, 2014 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
His name is at 10 gem in my chart- does that count? :-)
Interestingly- my name in his chart conjuncts his sun/saturn (at 11 aqua) which then also trines MY name in my chart at 11 libra!
I don't see too many grand trines. The only other one I saw was my ceres at 1 gem, trine his vesta at 0 libra, trine my Asc at 1 aqua. Still looking tho. Trying to fig out what a t square is!

You can see the image on the 1st page: it's an opposition squaring a third planet/point. It's much easier to look in the natals first to see what isolated aspects or incomplete patterns each one has. Their picture and explanation is on the first page.

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 31, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Lee But don't shoo, the shadow is where I live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ao2u7F_Qzg

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What are your isolated aspects or incomplete patterns, BTW?

Is this question for me?

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Cappy, I came from the same boat as you are right now. Don't loose hope, and Leeloo is right, you're amazing, Queeny, beautiful and original. You just haven't realized that yet.

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You better wish me an interesting life and lots of cash

Do you realize an interesting life must have ups and downs constantly? You're in the down period now, but you will get up. I do wish you that, and lots, whole lots of cash, for the earth risers assemble .

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posted May 31, 2014 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thank you, Lee But don't shoo, the shadow is where I live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ao2u7F_Qzg

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[b]What are your isolated aspects or incomplete patterns, BTW?



Is this question for me?

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For both of you and the entireeeeee world!!!!!!! lol

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