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IndigoDirae
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posted May 31, 2014 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I was looking at my synastry and composite with my Guardian today, I realised a crucial detail:

I need a lot more charts!

So, whether you count yourself among the dejected, rejected, and confused or the happily partnered or in good standing with your Twin Flame, this is about those relationships that are too intense to be a standard soulmate, but you know are not your Twin Flame.

According to my latest research, I hypothesise that the Guardian Soul is

Heavy Karma, Powerful Reward

They're an individual with whom you have heavy karma, with the potential of incredibly beautiful rewards once it's cleared. Most of these are unresolved debts directly influencing this life; even most likely to be negatively impacting your relationship or connexion with your Twin and other important soulmates. It's essential to clear these blockages.

A Surrogate Twin Flame?

The Guardian is most akin to a pinch-hitter in Twin Flame terms; they appear in order to help you develop in accordance with the values which will bring you closer to Reunion. This is crucial for both of you, being bound in a symbiotic relationship: you to Reunite, their goal to Ascend.

Twin Flame Relationship Simulation

• The bond can easily simulate a Twin Flame relationship, which can be VERY confusing initially. Consider it a practise run; the chance for you both to grow and learn, becoming more enlightened and evolved.

Don't relegate it to a mere dress rehearsal; let the relationship embody the same values, principles, and purpose as that of Twin Flames.

Don't think, 'I can't because this isn't my Twin Flame.'

It's important to instead begin changing ALL relationship models to reflect those representative of and embodied by Twin Flames.

Use this powerful opportunity as a chance to develop unconditional love, greater empathy and attunement and let it transfer to ALL relationships.

So. Anyone have anything they would consider to fit these criteria?

If you do, start posting your composites and synastry now.

Let's start delving, so as to uncover the astrological mysteries and markers of the Guardian Soulship.

I look forward to your charts!

To start, I'll share mine (composite, presently; I'll have to track down where I've got the synastry):

Much more to come.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 31, 2014 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do they have to be romantic? Or anyone we consider a Guardian soul?

First thing I see about your composite is a powerful Yod. Composite Yod shows the relationship is unavoidable, both people are drawn to it to experience the Yod.

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Ceridwen
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posted May 31, 2014 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it is a bit difficult for I doubt I would recognize (or admit it even to myself that I do), even if my Twinflame was standing in front of me, waving with a big neon sign, spelling T.W.I.N.F.L.A.M.E,

so I tend to put all people who have a tremendous impact on me in the probably karmic-soulmate-category. lol

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Astro keen
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posted May 31, 2014 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You had already seen my charts. It is not a twin flame chart but nonetheless has a deep soulmate connection. Which type he is, is yet to be decided. This relationship fits the heavy Karma/powerful reward criteria. The fact we have composite Juno conj Alma, Saturn conj NN, IC at GC and more, makes me think this is rather special.

I also believe that this relationship is a stepping stone - I have been assured by an excellent psychic as well as astrologers that this relationship will bring about healing in preparation for meeting my true soulmate. Since I have an Isis/Osiris conjunction in my natal, this final true soulmate could well be something more.

But, it could be argued that all SM relationships serve a purpose in terms of psychological growth, resolving Karma, healing etc. As not all SM relationships would fit the TF simulation criteria, it seems to be a matter of degree as to what distinguishes a guardian SM from a non-guardian SM.

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athenegoddess
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posted May 31, 2014 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I know for sure is that twin flames do not come together unless both of them first have transmuted all their human karma. and when I say human karma I mean everything. another words if something is holding you back from becoming ascended, you aren't going to be with your twin flame until you transmute that karma.

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posted May 31, 2014 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
All I know for sure is that twin flames do not come together unless both of them first have transmuted all their human karma. and when I say human karma I mean everything. another words if something is holding you back from becoming ascended, you aren't going to be with your twin flame until you transmute that karma.

This places TF in a rather different category. To transmute all your earthy karma is a very big thing - on par with advanced yogis and enlightened souls. Whilst TFs are a more common occurrence. There seem to be quite a few members on LL who are in TF relationships, rare though they may be.

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Ceridwen
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posted May 31, 2014 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noone *knows* for sure anyway, even though many people *think* they know.

But fact is that there are many theories floating around on what twinflames actually are, or do, or how and when they come together, and depending on which opinion you have, the answer to the questions will be a different one.


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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 31, 2014 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it has a lot to do with our need to find a higher meaning in our relationships

To me, there are people who pass through our lives to teach us things or facilitate something ( I call them "angels" - is this what the Guardian is supposed to be, Indigo?)

There are also good friends who stay with us until the end - or maybe this is the Guardian?

And there are romantic loves, who come and go, all beautiful and painful and full of meanings and lessons, all sparkles of the "one".

And there is also the "one". This is the Twinflame - to me.

So my question is: all of you who believe you met your twinflame or your Guardian (I'm not sure yet what this means), how do you know which is which?

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Selene
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posted May 31, 2014 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr.Uranus

Synastry

Composite

I know that he is a guardian soulmate for me. We have a really close friendship, have had it for almost one year and a half. But he cares for me very much, unfortunately, not in a romantic way, because he already is involved with someone. More like if i was his younger sister - he is always there for me, even if i don't ask for his help. He has taught me to swim, he helped me het my job, he helps me with all the manly stuff (mending my bike, for example) - that's from the practical side. We also have very meaningful conversations about spiritual matters, that help us understand ourselves and the world better (from the other perspective). I am happy and grateful that he is in my life. I know that no matter what happens he will stand by my side and protect me from everything. And i would do anything for him.

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loffra180
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posted May 31, 2014 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for loffra180     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. That sounds a lot like what I have with Amber, as far as what you described goes. So...here are the synastry and composite.

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athenegoddess
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posted May 31, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Noone *knows* for sure anyway, even though many people *think* they know.

But fact is that there are many theories floating around on what twinflames actually are, or do, or how and when they come together, and depending on which opinion you have, the answer to the questions will be a different one.



Well I don't really think I know. But I feel and feeling is more important.

I can say it for sure though, because its what I have been shown. Twin flame relationships are where both parties have transmuted all karma and they are no longer in bondage to earth. I know because I thought my ex bf was my TF, because he awakened me but he is not but was just preparing me. And now something has forced me to deal with all my karma that has been hidden in me. It has all come to the surface (transit pluto conjunct IC) and its because I have to deal with it all before I can be with my twin flame. So I know for sure you will not be with them, unless you are as pure as snow. That goes for the good and the bad. So pure that you can ascended from earth if you wanted to.

And I also feel twin flames get together to have children. And they will not bring a child into the world, if any karma is still acting in any of them. They are here to create a new reality and race of advanced humans.

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IndigoDirae
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posted May 31, 2014 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Do they have to be romantic? Or anyone we consider a Guardian soul?

First thing I see about your composite is a powerful Yod. Composite Yod shows the relationship is unavoidable, both people are drawn to it to experience the Yod.


Lee,

I feel that Guardian-based relationships will depend entirely upon the dynamics between them.

I do think that if someone has experienced a powerful relationship or connexion with a 'near twin', so to speak, the chances are high it's of this nature. There's a whole other playbook for that.

You're right on about the Yod. While not the tightest, the VEN-JUP and PSY-MH to EROS-MOON is certainly a driving force in terms of dynamics.

Everything 'pointing to' that MOON-EROS-ALICE adjacent to the IC is definitely attention-getting.

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jjj
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posted June 01, 2014 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Isis-Osiris conjunct 4 degree orb in natal. I checked charts of my ex loves/friends and most of them have Isis-Osiris conjunct (orb varies from 3-10 degrees). Maybe it is common for these 2 asteroids to be conjunct? Or we are a big potential TF soul family

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posted June 01, 2014 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
every 5 years approximately they are conjunct I think.

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IndigoDirae
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posted June 02, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jjj:
I have Isis-Osiris conjunct 4 degree orb in natal. I checked charts of my ex loves/friends and most of them have Isis-Osiris conjunct (orb varies from 3-10 degrees). Maybe it is common for these 2 asteroids to be conjunct? Or we are a big potential TF soul family

Definitely big potential soul-family. You'd think, even though they're on a 4-year cycle, how much you hit it with members of your soul-family versus those who are not is pretty crazy!

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posted June 02, 2014 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
All I know for sure is that twin flames do not come together unless both of them first have transmuted all their human karma. and when I say human karma I mean everything. another words if something is holding you back from becoming ascended, you aren't going to be with your twin flame until you transmute that karma.

Correct. Which is a big purpose of the Guardian Soul relationship.

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Yummyboo81
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posted February 19, 2015 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yummyboo81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When researching twinflame synastry, I came across this term Guardian soulship, and was wondering if this might explain my connection to this guy. I suspect he's possibly with his TF now (very "destructive" relationship that I can't get into). So, I'd like to know if these aspects/charts point to a guardian soulship between me and him. Natally, I have Juno conj. alma (<1deg.) AND Eros opp. Psyche (<1deg). Natally, he has isis conj. Osiris in Virgo (<1deg). His Isis-Osiris conjunction conjuncts my Psyche (<1deg) AND ascendant (<2 deg). His NN is conjuct my 12th house cusp. His Valentine and Venus conjunct my NN. Also, in our composite, our Juno-alma is conjunct but approximately 7 deg. apart. I am including a link to the thread I started about TF that has aspects and charts.
As it stand right now, I'm not sure if I want to go down this road with him, but if I choose to (and this is in fact a guardian soulship) how can I be the best guardian for him? How do I help him?

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posted February 19, 2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yummyboo81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, here's the link to the TF thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/001831.html

And here's another thread that might help that I started: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/001945.html

Thanks!

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posted February 19, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yummyboo81:
When researching twinflame synastry, I came across this term Guardian soulship, and was wondering if this might explain my connection to this guy. I suspect he's possibly with his TF now (very "destructive" relationship that I can't get into). So, I'd like to know if these aspects/charts point to a guardian soulship between me and him. Natally, I have Juno conj. alma (<1deg.) AND Eros opp. Psyche (<1deg). Natally, he has isis conj. Osiris in Virgo (<1deg). His Isis-Osiris conjunction conjuncts my Psyche (<1deg) AND ascendant (<2 deg). His NN is conjuct my 12th house cusp. His Valentine and Venus conjunct my NN. Also, in our composite, our Juno-alma is conjunct but approximately 7 deg. apart. I am including a link to the thread I started about TF that has aspects and charts.
As it stand right now, I'm not sure if I want to go down this road with him, but if I choose to (and this is in fact a guardian soulship) how can I be the best guardian for him? How do I help him?

Funny you post this today, yummyboo81, as it's suddenly become a topic with pressing urgency, and I plan to address this very soon.

Stay tuned.

Also, I have to say that a Twin Flame relationship is NEVER destructive. It's CONstructive, and INstructive. It builds, creates, heals, and generates. It doesn't DEgenerate. It CONceives, it doesn't DEceive. (And so on and so on.)

If your friend is in a destructive relationship, it ISN'T with a Twin Flame. This much I can guarantee you.

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posted February 19, 2015 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yummyboo81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Aubyanne. I didn't want (or mean) to offend by using the word destructive. I placed the word (destructive) in quotes because I think that's how many who aren't familiar with TFs and the TF connection would label it based on the actions and behaviors of these two (actually that's how it was described to me). Anyway, I look forward to your views and what you have to say!

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