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LovelyAries86
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posted September 20, 2015 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
^^Thanks for taking the time to say so, LovelyAries-- very kind of you! Feeling like I'm over-sharing unjudiciously... no need to reply unless something is particularly inspiring! Mercury is retrograde in my 12th at the moment, just cruisin over my Venus so I feel like I kinda gotta go it alone right now anyhow maybe? <-- more unsolicited shares <3

Thanks again though for taking the time to mention you're thinkin of us! Very kind indeed.


Your welcome

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posted September 20, 2015 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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browncoat
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posted September 22, 2015 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an amazing thread! Thank you LeeLoo. I will spend some time looking at older post to learn.

I would like some advice/help on what aspects to seek out (manifest) for a good relationship with a woman who "fits me."
I've been getting pretty beat up emotionally for a few years, and with my progressed moon now in Pisces it's become quite difficult being alone.
...and I find too many single sociopaths out there.
(and I am 0% sociopath)

I just don't seem to have enough astrology knowledge to figure this out despite my best efforts and endless research.
Note: I'm open to other modalities as well, not only astrology.


My DOB: Feb 8, 1971 @ 4:10AM, Phoenix AZ USA


I recognize I do have a difficult chart regarding relationships (obviously):
-5th house Saturn in Taurus
-Saturn square Sun
-1st house Venus in Cap...Sesquiquadrate my Saturn
-Pluto square Venus & Ascendant
-Mercury opposite Moon
-Something about my Uranus?

Also:
I believe Cancer Moon is a difficult placement for a man in the USA...it's not very masculine. I've learned to channel the "needy" energy in a better way now, but I'll always be sensitive & intuitive, which I'm ok with.
I believe my 8th house Cancer moon is the most powerful, influential energy in my chart. I *have* to keep my emotional space happy or my life gets way off balance (and so here I am ). I guess I understand what most women experience, huh
So I'm thinking a Scorpio Moon (maybe in 4th house?) might be a good start? My 11th house ("love received") is in Scorpio...and I would sure enjoy being loved by Scorpio energy. Yes, might challenge my Aquarian Sun, but it works beautifully with my Moon. Just a thought.


My POF is at 17 deg Cancer in my 7th house. My life just works SO much better when I'm in a relationship.
Not to mention my 8th house Moon (trine Jupiter) wants a deep, committed connection.
Yes, I'm independent but please don't give me garbage about "I just want the good parts." I get real commitment, people get sick, life, etc.
(the woman ends it almost always)

I know Saturn requires much "inner work" and I've now worked on my Saturn lessons for several years...to express myself more 'childlike' and even my sexuality, instead of being reserved...I am very passionate & empathic, but for some reason I keep it hidden and it's difficult to 'push it out' (probably the 8th house thing).
Now I'm also working on my Venus in Cap...trying so hard to be more expressive & social and not so stoic in intimate spaces. I try to tap into my Sagittarius energy...which is easy among strangers.
I've been doing a *LOT* of inner work towards awareness & how I show up, even getting my hormones balanced.
But...seems I keep doing more of the same, expecting different results.

I've typically gravitated to older women, and I'm now trying to focus on younger, per advice.

Honestly, I just don't know anymore.
I'm such a mixed bag, and women tell me I'm hard to read & figure out.

I'm not looking for perfect, and I want to be a good match for her, too.
I've had enough that were good matches for me but I wasn't for them. -sigh-
Example: I recently met a 40yo Cancer Sun (my 7th), Cap Moon (my 1st), Aries Mars, Leo Venus (both trine my mars)...gawd that got hot quick!! ...but she was a Libra Asc & all 6 of her natal moon aspects + all 5 of her Cancer Saturn aspects were hard ...ugh... poor thing. Ended just as quick. (no doubt for the best, but it still hurt)

In truth, in trying to not be overly picky I've probably dated too many women who were just wrong for me.

Please help.
Thank you, thank you!!
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posted September 22, 2015 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Readytochill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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browncoat
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posted September 23, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a post yesterday from LovelyAries86 ...and now it's gone.
Wonder if posts are disappearing, or if the mod removed them?

I'm enjoying reading thru this long thread. Learning so much.
Thank you everyone for your contribution.

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posted September 23, 2015 06:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, no, no one is deleting them unfortunately, they sometimes disappear, when two people write at the same time, for instance.
I will come back tomorrow and do the profiles

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 23, 2015 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by browncoat:
I saw a post yesterday from LovelyAries86 ...and now it's gone.

I didn't realize it was gone until now.

I was just telling you to date another Cancer Moon. It can be quite lovely!

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posted September 23, 2015 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
... date another Cancer Moon. It can be quite lovely!


Thank you, LoveyAries86.

Actually, I did once (Sun & Moon). Was a very nice relationship...for a while (her Sun was on my POF) ...but she had difficult Saturn & Mars issues we couldn't overcome. So it ended (mutually). We're still friends.

I understand Cancer with Cancer is nice and comfortable but later down the road each feels like "something is missing."
Maybe other aspects can balance that out?

And I sure liked the Cancer Sun I recently met (was probably her Leo Venus & Aries Mars...felt sooo natural!)
I'm just not sure Cancers connect *with me* well.
Heck, even *I* don't connect with my Cancer well (too much male energy and it's my only water)...but I've made huge progress over time.
That sensitive 8th house Cancer Moon demanded I connect with it.


My progressed Sun is now in Aries...it's been suggested to me an Aries Sun might be good. I dated an Aries years ago...one of my *best* relationships. Have no idea her birth info. Wish I did. I ended it for several reasons.


Seeing your chart LovelyAries86 is fascinating (the obvious age gap aside...in my world it seems there's always 'something' -sigh-)
Your moon is in my 7th house, your Sun in my 4th trine my AC + sextile~ish (wide orb 66 1/2deg) my Sun, my Venus conj your Nep/Mars + sextile your Pluto + trine your Sun, my Sun in your 5th trine your AC, our Mercuries are sextile, your Saturn conj my Mars/Jup/Nep + sextile my Uranus, my Saturn conj your Venus + sextile your Jup, my Moon sq your Sun, your AC conj my MC, my AC conj your POF...
(I enjoy synastry analysis )

Obviously I'm not an expert, but appears like a lot of good connection points.
Personally I don't care about age gaps (in either direction) ...probably the Aquarian in me ...tho many do.

A late Aries Sun certainly gives me something to consider...my moon would just have to suck it up & enjoy the tension from the square.

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posted September 23, 2015 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I will come back tomorrow and do the profiles


I SOOO appreciate what you do for so many LeeLoo2014.
You are so amazing

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 23, 2015 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooh Browncoat...are you my long lost lover?!
Yes, our synastry is pretty solid.

Funny 'cos I was recently into an Aquarian man. I've come a long way with you guys! I do enjoy Aqua Sun & Mercury quite a bit. Romantically, I'm not into Aqua Moon or Venus though. As friends, yes.

You have the same Sun/Moon combo as legend SMOKEY ROBINSON!

Classic: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwkZrj2VT4

I and adore him! All those amazing songs that he wrote for Motown? Such a *beautiful* soul he has. If you're anything like him...I know that you're an awesome man.

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 23, 2015 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I will come back tomorrow and do the profiles


We look forward to it.

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posted September 24, 2015 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Oooh Browncoat...are you my long lost lover?!
Yes, our synastry is pretty solid.

Could you imagine...two astrologers in relationship together? Talking about being able to understand where each is coming from. I'm thinking that might be a nice thing to have. Hmmm. (or beyond annoying)

I don't know where in the world you are so I came real close on a chart that matches what you posted.

My luck you're probably in the Ukraine or some obscure corner of the world where we could never meet.


quote:
Funny 'cos I was recently into an Aquarian man. I've come a long way with you guys!

Ya...but did he have as much Sagittarius as I do?
I believe Sag connects much better with Aries than even a Leo.

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 24, 2015 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by browncoat:
Ya...but did he have as much Sagittarius as I do?

I believe Sag connects much better with Aries than even a Leo.


The guy I was into? Like you, he had Sag Mars - in the 5th House.

I'm curious, how would you describe this placement?

I don't tend to care that much for fiery Venus/Mars. As both of mine are in earth signs - I'm solid & sensual.

But as you know...it's ALL about the total synastry.

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posted September 24, 2015 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in the US! Midwestern girl.

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posted September 24, 2015 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
The guy I was into? Like you, he had Sag Mars - in the 5th House.

I'm curious, how would you describe this placement?

I don't tend to care that much for fiery Venus/Mars. As both of mine are in earth signs - I'm solid & sensual.


Yes...I noticed your grand water trine...with that Cap Mars making your kite, trine your Taurus Venus.
My 8th Moon would like that...very sensual & flowing. And I lack water so I'm attracted to it. As well, I'm told I could use some grounding energy. The Cancer Sun/Moon I dated was in her 10th house. Very good, grounding energy for me.

Granted, aside from my Sag AC, all my Sag is in the 12th house (watery, intuitive, introspective). I'm definitely not the "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" kind of Sag.
Tho, you probably won't go camping with me.
...unless for your 9th house Moon??

A 5th house Sag Mars I'd think would need to 'show off' and be quite expressive, maybe overly confident. (like a "Leo Sag") I'm kind of a "Pisces Sag" Mars.

But I view Venus & Mars as merely like "spices" in a relationship...great V/M aspects will not save an otherwise bad synastry (ask me how I know ).
As well, an otherwise good synastry is fine with no V/M aspects.


Hmmm...I see you have Jup in Pisces in the 5th (trine your Moon).
I have Jup in Sag in the 12th (trine my Moon)
It's a synastry square, but I bet they relate more than just a square.

And our Pluto's are square each other's Moons. Wonder how that would play out? All the good and minimizing the bad? Can't exactly manipulate a manipulator very well...esp when you are on both the giving & receiving end. Awareness comes quick, to say the least.

LOL! Look at us... our own astrology matchmakers.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
LOL my boss that I was obsessed with (he recently quit) had this!!! Cancer Sun, Sag Moon and Venus in Gemini. Mars in Pisces.... Liiiiiiaaarrr! And passive, UGH, I was physically into him but beyond that NO!! 😅😅😅😅 it's still so funny that's what you found!

I tend to gravitate towards Cap/ Sag/ Scorpio people. I DO like Venus in Sag and Aquarius though, but Venus in Aquarius tends to stick better to me, dunno why. Can't stand Libra either

I appreciate your analysis / skills 😊 thank you Lee!

ETA: Just remembered my best friend in high school and a few years after was a Cancer Sun/Moon with Mercury in Leo and Venus in Gemini. We did go really well together! He used to wish I was a guy all the time, lol.


Actually, all of this is on my list Cap is cardinal, and Scorpio is part of your wedge. Your 7th house is there, so no wonder you gravitate towards it more however, I still think you haven't met the right Libra yet

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Originally posted by Faith:

His moon was somewhere between late 29 Aries and 11 Taurus, but I strongly believe it was Taurus, as the moon shifted to Taurus just after midnight. And he acted like a Taurus moon.

So his sun turned my mutable t-square into a grand cross, and his moon may have turned my fixed t-square into a grand cross.

Also his moon may have been conjunct Jupiter at the apex of that yod (which we also have in composite.)

Heavy.


I think if the last position of the Moon is about 11 Taurus that day, it should have started at about 26 Aries at midnight. So there is a possibility for the Moon to be on your Chiron. I still think the Moon is outside the Saturn sq, which would have been more compelling.
The composite T/square also requires a lot of hard work to integrate the antagonism between Saturn Uranus and Jupiter all pouring into Venus and the Yod releasing in Venus conj Uranus 5th ruler may lead to an untimely separation, a need to free oneself, especially if people are two young for the actual complexity of the relationship.
Nevertheless, these are great charts, we are just looking for some possible astrological explanation here. I am truly sorry things didn't go forever between the two of you, the charts certainly deserve that

His Sun is the perfect Sun for you, no wonder Juno is there, so I don't think the Mars sq was the problem.

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Originally posted by mattva:
Thanks for this!


Sun about 20 in the following signs:
first option, the best: 20 taurus or 20 leo

or 20 aries, libra or gem, in that order

fixed moon, especially taurus or leo

venus at about 20 in that order:
cancer
cap
gem
virgo

mars in virgo, gem or cancer

they may be switched to a certain degree, or ASC juno etc can fill one of these spots

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Originally posted by theunknown:
How about mine?


fixed moon

Sun in sag, your IC or early libra or cancer

venus and mars around 15 in

virgo
scorpio
pisces
cancer or on your ASC

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Dear LeeLoo,

Could you analyse my chart too please? I was actually going to ask you what you think my ideal mate is on the other thread (when you mentioned the guy's ideal type, the one with tight composite) but didn't want to overload you with questions. So imagine my joy when I noticed today that there's actually a thread for this

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fixed sun, especially taurus or leo

moon and venus around 2 in:

cancer
cap
scorpio
pisces

mars on your dsc, or in leo or gem, same degree

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Originally posted by RoseLily:
As someone else said:
I wanted to do this since forever!!

someone with a sun/moon aspect
mutable moon

early degree cardinal sun with venus;
on your mars
or

your jupiter

mars on your lilith or
in aqua
or on your venus, moon or pluto

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
This is a fantastic idea! Sorry I'm so late to the party.

Lee,

I'd absolutely love to hear your thoughts on my chart and the partner that you see as best for me. All are welcome to chime in! This should be interesting.


My Chart:


sun and venus around 6 deg in:

water signs + cap

moon about 20 in leo or aqua

mars on your IC, in virgo, or the venus mystic rectangle apexes

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posted September 24, 2015 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
You're the best, Lee. Wish I could send you flowers or something.

Maybe it was just that I was going through a really difficult phase of life and couldn't handle any more...

As for his moon, thanks for thinking it over, but I think you missed what I wrote above: If he was born at midnight on his birthday (Sept. 12) he has a late 29 Aries moon, but I think it's Taurus.

*edit

I just wrote a bunch of stuff about other hypothetical charts for him and realized it doesn't actually matter. This matters, though....

^^ Spot on. Also our composite has a ton of things hinging on that Saturn. Here I used that 6 Sag ASC for him again. Regardless of the house placements, the geometry is very telling, I think.


Don't you think so? Sorry to keep asking you to look at charts...but it IS an interesting case, I can say that for sure.

Also, I want to tell you, not only did we have that nodal axis blockage with Saturn, but the draconic-to-tropical synastry is not very impressive.

We both felt that something was missing in the romance department so we spent most of that time (6 years) as friends. Still we were just enough attracted to each other that being friends was problematic. I mean, it flat-out didn't work sometimes. There was too much love for it to be a simple friendship, but not enough passion for it to be non-stop romance. There would have been more passion from my side if I trusted him to not leave, but after he broke up with me the first time (and I didn't see it coming AT ALL), I just never trusted him fully in a romantic context again.

edit

It's hard to stop babbling about this, but I need to.

Thank you again for looking and listening!


I forgot to say this....it's fascinating to see two possible paths here, two directions: one is Pluto on ASC, the other is the Yod on the nodal axis. they are parallel.

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

whoops... Should have realized there was a reason everybody was doing it that way.... Here you go


very strongly original and unusual chart, and not easy for relationships you are very special

probably a guy with sun in virgo or pises on your nodal axis
and venus in aries or on your chiron

or, option 2

a guy with sun on your chiron, early libra or aries
and venus in leo aqua or viceversa, venus on your chiron, sun in leo/aqua etc.

moon in scorpio, cap, pisces, taurus or virgo

cardinal mars, especially libra

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Originally posted by liawn2109:
This is an amazing idea! :P Here's mine. Born in China but live in Ontario now. Thanks!

Wait... how to insert images in replies..? (I'm new)

(sorry!)


moon in taurus, pisces or gem

there are 2 perfect perfect solutions for you

Sun in virgo
mars on your nn or at 5 taurus
venus on your pluto or mid cancer

or

sun about 5 taurus
venus on your nn
mars the same + cancer

they can be interchanged


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