posted June 11, 2014 01:16 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Orange,

I seem to notice that whenever Mars is involved with Venus (or Sun, Moon, ASC), it seems to be the Mars who feels that WANT for the other person (unless of course there are other factors factoring in like a cold gush of Saturn for example), while Venus does not necessarily reciprocrate in a passionate way.
And whenever Venus touches Sun, Moon or ASC, it seems her feeling attracted, but not neccwarily in a hot way, but more the harmonious "I think I like you and appreciate you" kind of way.

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Me too, I noticed that. Plus, I have several cases of unrequited love (well, not necessarily unrequited, but definitely more into it and pushing and doing the "courtship") of women with their Mars on the man's Venus, hard aspect (mostly conjunctions, a few oppositions). I experienced it too, with my Mars conjunct his Venus, one time, my Mars opp his Venus, the second. I even wanted to make a thread about that because it seems to be a repetitive theme with this scenario.

BUT...in these cases, either there is no DW between Venus and Mars or the other aspect is a soft one, for example sextile. This is very interesting. This second aspect will eventually manifest itself, but later.

posted June 11, 2014 01:25 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
ok, Cer,

I solved the puzzle with my synastry above.

That's why it is best to look at the natal chart first before assessing the synastry.

Despite all the action that was going on, all the Venuses and Marses and Suns, and even the fact his Venus was on my DSC and Nodes, i have one planet that is the most important planet in my natal chart and which captures the essense of my personality, and this essential planet - Mercury - was absolutely unaspected in that synastry!
Mercury is the ruler of my 7th and 4th house, is the ruler of my Sun and Moon, is the final dispositor of all my planets and angles in my chart, including the Vertex axis, and conjuncts PLuto at 0 degree.
This synastry left it completely untouched.

In comparison, my current crush in my office... we dont have Sun-Venus conjunctions, the Venus-Mars aspects are minor - a semisextille and an inconjunction (which resulted in an exact square in the Composite), [b]BUT...my beloved Pluto/Mercury, the heart of my chart, opposes (and contraparallels) exactly his Venus and squares his Moon, and when I first saw him I thought he was the most beautiful man I've seen in my life. I am still hugely lusting after him, on a platonic level.

Natal, natal, natal > then synastry

Puzzle solved.[/B]

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posted June 11, 2014 01:33 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
you mentioned the 8th house.
I know that this is related to sexually intimate relationships, however I noticed that some times the 8th house factor can go either way. It doesn`t automatically translate to sexual attraction.

Actually I hae noticed that the 5th house factor is mandatory for this, like a preparation.
IF the 5th house AND the 8th house factor in, usually the sexual attraction is out of this world.
However if it is ONLY 8th house, I have not noticed that, though there is always a deep profound transformative aspect to the 8th.

I think I noticed something similiar in the relation bwetween 4th and 7th house, too. the 4th seems to be very important in relationships, but only ever blooms in romantic relationships, if the 7th house is also triggered. Almost like the 4th/ 7th and the 5th/8th work as pairings for romantic and sexual attraction.

Maybe it is just a peculiar thing I noticed though, and for other people it might be different.
I just wanted tomention it, that while the 5th house is uusally very reliable in terms of the sexual spark, the 8th house is not that reliable in my observation.

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It makes a lot of sense to me. The 8th house is also the house of power/powerlessness and the house of major transformation, so it will be activated in relationships touching on these topics. It is not a romantic house per se. So is the 5th alone, I guess. The 5th can also be the house of a creative partnership, when it's the focus of a synastry...or it shows two people sharing something related to children together etc.

Normally, many factors in the overall look of a synastry show we're talking about a romantic synastry, not just one house overlay or another.

posted June 11, 2014 01:41 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What about the 1st house and attraction? No one ventured to that.

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posted June 11, 2014 02:30 PM              

If you ask me, I think the best combo for long-term attraction is a hard aspect combined with a soft or minor aspect (between Venus and Mars). If the Venus/Mars DW is missing, another combo with Venus/Moon or Mars/Moon etc is necessary, preferably a DW. Like a Venus/Mars and a Moon/Mars DW or one Venus/Mars, but also one Moon/Mars and one Moon/Venus. But, of course, this is generalization, more or less.

posted June 11, 2014 03:08 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Hey. But would it feel good?

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posted June 11, 2014 04:02 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I wish I could see someone's Vertex opposite my Uranus and Neptune in action
Btw, I can confirm the power of Vertex conjunct Sun. That actor tends to make me feel warm and fuzzy (in a platonic way).

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posted June 11, 2014 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I wish I could see someone's Vertex opposite my Uranus and Neptune in action
Btw, I can confirm the power of Vertex conjunct Sun. That actor tends to make me feel warm and fuzzy (in a platonic way).

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posted June 12, 2014 10:59 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
i can`t venture into that, cause for me the 1st house is always paramount in attraction, but it might be just cause my DESC-ruler and 5th house ruler are both in 1st house.

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awww..and I was counting on you, Ceri!

posted June 12, 2014 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
awww..and I was counting on you, Ceri!

I was thinking yesterday that someone with 5th, 8th or 7th (especially 7th ...maybe 4th too???) in Aries probably is very attracted to people putting planets in his/her 1st or around her ASC. What do you think?

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I'm not Ceri but 'Yes!'.

posted June 12, 2014 05:51 PM            

I ask this because I may potentially be working very closely with someone I haven't officially met yet and we have this synastry aspect (EXACT IN LIBRA im venus his mars) and it might be pedantic but I'm a smidge worried about keeping it professional because I have heard secondhand that he finds me attractive. I know other factors come into play but I would like to hear your experiences just for curiosity's sake[/Qoute]

I wouldn't worry too much about it because Librans won't make a move without getting the "go ahead". But, then again, if he is Mars, he may do his best to get your attention.

Just relax and see where it goes; you could end up being good friends. That being all there is to it.

My story, however, was different.I had Venus conjunct Mars in Libra too exact with a room mate.We also shared a tight Moon-Moon square (Cancer/Aries), my Mars opposed his Moon(Aries) and his Mars conjunct my stellium in Sag.

At first, he annoyed the hell out of me-must have been the Moon-Moon square: We fought a lot.I found him to be too much of a brute.

And then,after some time,things changed; we started to be a lot nicer to each other and doing small favours to make each other more comfortable.

I felt the attraction starting to grow considerably . the stellium interaction and the other Moon/Mars placements started to filter in progressively.

I was relieved when he moved out(I wasn't ready to come to terms with being gay at the time).At some point,he even told one of his friends(whilst drunk),that he didn't know it was possible for him to like a guy "in that way".

The friend,as guys often do,blurted it out in front of his mates when we were watching a rugby game. Can you say awkward??? I felt really bad for him. We avoided each other until he moved out.

Venus-Mars, in my experience, is not "instant" attraction, but it is kindred friendship that can manifest in open affection for each other(like me and this guy would have been had it been allowed to grow).

posted June 13, 2014 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Gabby, is it that bad just to be fond of him?

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Ugh!! Leave me alone!! .....no I do not have a phobia of relationship!

(or at least im working on it)

What do you expect my Venus opposes Chiron on my vertex in my 7th house.... The theme of that aspect is "loves been a little bit hard on me!" Lol